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hehehe, Putin is such a pathetic schmuck
>>2634177 (me)
Thankfully most WestZ's and RussZ's I'm reading today are asking very hard questions, but you get these diehard turbo copers who are like "What do you want Putin to do?!?!?!" hehehe,
>he HAS to cry that Trump didn't receive a Nobel>he HAS to let Kirill Dmitriev tea-bag Trump's balls, call Trump daddy, reveal Trump's royal bloodlines, post literal Qanon screenshots to his MAGA moron followers, go around giving the Yanks flowers and chocolates with Putin quotes, etc.>the ONLY possible form of diplomacy is being a schmoozer with no self-respectit's a good scientific experiment to see how much Cuckus Putinus is willing to tolerate in the way of humiliation, and I'm watching with rapt attention hehe
>>2634099What a fucking cuck lol
>>2634099When will the Russians capitalists finally uncuck themselves
>>2634376Luka already came to that conclusion when Putin shot down the GenStaff plans to start targeting the Nazi terror leadership. Luka mentioned twice that Putin shot down the plans. I don't think that was by accident.
I also don't blame Luka for starting to hedge a little with US ties, releasing the prisoners the US wants released, etc.
>>2634369Fucking kek. I unironically believe that saying nothing whatsoever is better than what Lavrov comes out with most of the time. He's out there demanding that any Russian civilians be treated with dignity. >inb4 Trump posts their mugshots on Truth Social.
>>2634381Killing most of the Ukrainian leadership would be bad since the current ones are so incompetent, but what I don't understand is why they haven't used missiles to strike wherever the SBU and GUR are operating. If any of the Ukrainian leadership can be called highly competent, it's the intelligence divisions, the ones that have been carrying out terrorist attacks on Russia nonstop with consistent success.
>>2634391Budanov supposedly helps plan terrorist attacks that Russians are too incompetent to learn about and stop, yet he's still alive.
>>2634393>too incompetent to learn aboutTerrorist attacks are intrinsically difficult to learn about, you’re assuming this is operatives constantly being on the phone with Budanov receiving direct orders and plans that lots of people are being clued in about with authorisation requested and given, like it’s a real military op, whereas it’s possible that it’s more of an Operation Gladio or standard terrorist cell type situation where agents are in Russia with just a general command to fuck up whatever they can find a vulnerability for.
>>2634381>I also don't blame Luka for starting to hedge a little with US ties, releasing the prisoners the US wants released, etc.honestly makes more sense now
>>2634376EU is gonna integrate Russia after all the alt-right parties win. So much for muh anti-imperialist war lmao.
Latest and Greatest sanctions package incoming
Trump has ‘greenlit’ Russia sanctions bill - Senator Lindsey Graham>US Senator Lindsey Graham has said that a senate vote on a new Russia sanctions bill could take place as soon as mid-January.<He met with US President Donald Trump at the White House earlier on Wednesday, where Trump “greenlit” the bill, which has been in the works for months.>He was referring to a bill he authored that would authorize tariffs of up to 500% on imports from countries that continue to buy Russian energy products.https://swentr.site/news/630721-us-greenlit-russia-sanctions-bill/I particularly like this quote though
>The senator continued in his statement that the proposed bill would allow Trump “to punish those countries who buy cheap Russian oil.”like that's a crime, not buying expensive American oil.
Did the US make its new year resolution to be more honest with the world?
>>2634554How do you not make the connection between this and the tanker hijacking? I genuinely don't get it.
Putin is a massive cuck. Can’t take any Cuckssian supporter seriously anymore.
Gloves status?
>>2634562>which has been in the works for months.That part.
I genuinely don't get why everything the US does has to be some snap opportunist decision driven the reaction (or lack thereof) towards a prior snap opportunist decision made months ago as a slippery slope for Russia, rather than just a general on-going desire for the US/NATO to keep the headlines going and more importantly keep the morale up in Ukraine/down in Russia while, as I said, the actual attacks against Russia itself are much more quiet, take much longer to produce and often affect more countries than just Russia.
Well, I have my suspicions that being spectacle-brained (i.e X happened because Y happened without some ill-defined retaliation Z) is just a front for a general desire to not feel at all responsible for passively living in a US or West that is assisting in a genocide, is expending an entire country of people out of self-interest, is breaking down the concept of international law, etc, because you can frame it as though that can only conceivably stop when the victims of the world are making moves significant enough against the "Might Makes Right" mongers to have American citizens rioting and raiding Wall-Mart for supplies in anticipation for nuclear war.
Anons are quite wrong when they think my motivation is being a Putinist, just generally on leftypol I see a lot of what I interpret as the desire above. Western leftists aren't in a position to stop the descent into barbarism, so they opportunistically frame it as acceptable because the invaded, bombed and genocide'd are not Socialist enough, don't have western lib values and as reactionaries deserve reactionary violence or just asked for it by not standing largely alone against the imperial conglomerate in open warfare, while espousing some kind of dogma that
simply because the west has the most advanced economy in the world that intrinsically makes themselves the most revolutionary proletariat in the world.
Therefore, to me, anti-campism, zigger-turned-cucktinist or any variant of neutrality to western impieralism is
>The wholesale expenditure of Ukraine is not my problem, they should have organised better than I've achieved>The attempt at Balkanising 145 million people with thousands of nukes and many lifetimes of resources is not my problem, they don't make me fear for my life>The open intent to steal the biggest oil resources in the globe is not my problem, they shouldn't have been corrupt and unrevolutionary <They shouldn't be so religious<They shouldn't have called me Treatler<They shouldn't have competed with the west economically<They shouldn't have traded with anyone other than Cubathat is to say they tell the world to "make them" care about what they ultimately benefit from, so, quite frankly, fuck them, each and every one.
>>2634099US media:
>let's invent a story in which we say that a submarine and a vessel was about to escort a oil tanker>days go by, nothing happened>let's invent another story on how coookteen ordered the navy to stand down.classy.
>>2634624>the fake news is lying about the giga cuck sending a naval defense to protect a vessel in his backyard>he actually didn't send anything at all>also, can we just ignore Lavrov pleading with the US to treat Russian civvies with dignity??? plz???heheheh, it's ovah, jovah… aside from a few deadenders, every indie commentator I see has been ridiculing the giga cuck for weeks now
>>2634592>Putin is a massive cuck. Can’t take any Cuckssian supporter seriously anymore.As I said during the previous avatar of the Cuckler Chronicles, IntBrig's fav commentators he used to quote extensively and defend have turned against Cuckler's timidity. I miss the guy, tho. He was well-meaning, capable of learning, and often had good leftist book recs.
>>2634624He should have fully committed to the war years ago and steamrolled the nazis. This tanker situation is just an other example of his being a weakling.
didn't last century's experience show that overextending and too much engagement leads to collapse? russia and china are doing relatively little and the self-inflicted damage the us is doing is great. why change strategies? rationally speaking
>>2634649Last century's experience showed that the US incurred a number of painful tactical lessons but won a strategic victory with the collapse of the Soviet Union. It's not a perfectly tidy negative-gradient rule because guys like Khrushchev were complex (tho at least he saved Cuba, whereas the US is now rolling out senators saying Cuba is one of three 'next' targets), but the general trend from Stalin to the likes of Gorbachev/Yeltsin/Putin is pretty clear. Cuck appeasement doesn't work.
>>2634649The risk becomes if the US can properly "clean house" in its local area and properly re-form the expectations people have of their government, as well as foreign expectations of domination. America's recent attacks on leaders with extreme precision both in South America and the Middle East is a threat to anyone who wants to get in power against America's interests.
>>2634659one major issue with the anti-colonial reliance on the national bourgeoisie to perform a liberatory role is that the bourgeoisie of any country is a minority, and with the heightened capacity to simply drone-strike people with extreme precision at any unexpected time, it's not entirely implausible that they can be terrorized and replaced as needed.
>>2634657 (me)
If we start the trend earlier than the Soviet Union and consider Lenin's rule in post-revolutionary Russia before the formation of the Soviet Union so that we're not considering only Lenin's two years in the Sovet Union continually stroking out, we can see the same clarity about America.
Imagine Putin and his boy Kirill Dmitriev trying to save the Bolsheviks from his American partners.
>>2634675 (me)
And that brings us to today's KPRF controlled-opposition communist party, which makes an exception for Yeltsin as a post-Soviet ruler but not Putin, and decides to spend half its time fixated on Yeltsin symbolism as opposed to Yeltsin's cuck protégé. It's more accurate to treat the Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin organism as an invasive tripartite cuck complex.
Even worse is the KPRF fixation on Khrushchev, who successfully played tit for tat by placing weapons in Cuba, scaring the US into withdrawing its weapons from Turkey and scaring the US into pledging not to attack Cuba. Seems more urgent to criticize Putin, whose cuckoldry is inspiring the US to attack Cuba.
Another rare win from Christcucks with Attitude:
>@RWApodcast
>Russian diplomacy suffers from gerontocracy. When everyone in the room is decades past their prime, you get slogans like "The Spirit of Anchorage", the dumbest phrase to surface in 2025. They cling to old methods that fail, especially against the Schizo Empire.
>>2634709I don't mind using so-called whataboutisms, and I think most of the radlib crying about them is because they're unable to confront hypocrisy, but there are stronger whataboutisms than fucking Mitch McConnell, like, I dunno, Trump. Weird.
Anyway, Russian gerontocracy is more of an emergency than American gerontocracy, because the Americans didn't just lose hundreds of thousands of men.
>>2634725One more thing. It appears russia does not have a concept of "full spectrum dominance" because it always gets creatively outsmarted by americunts and whenever that happens, they start coping how they "are not obligated to defend anything". It's part of the same shit when a loser loses and is like "I didn't even try".
Pathetic country.
Yestarday the same shit happened with the ship:
>We are sending submarine>No we never intended to send submarineFake ass pathetic shithole that thinks
>vidrelis "real war"
>>2634709>I dunno, Trump. Weird.I prefer mcconnel because he have had multiple episodes of melting brain. plus his public fall.
>Russian gerontocracy is more of an emergency than American gerontocracypoor analysis. it's Russia's material conditions, not America's, what drives their foreign policy. the US wants expansion, re-draw international law. doing the same will lead to war.
if the US wants to escalate, there will be consequences, but not for a couple of tankers when they have various hundreds of them.
>>2634737This is real war folks.
1 soldier goes into demoralized trench to surrender 2 other soldiers
Now you understand why russia sucks shit
The soviets took over Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945 in less days than this pathetic country.
>>2634740Sigh. The Americans just used Ukrainian meat they don't care about to kill hundreds of thousands of Russian men.
>>2634740>there will be consequencesGet it through your thick skull that russia is cucked beyond repair. I hate russians so much for being cucks.
>>2634737Agreed. "Haha, we didn't even send the submarine or any defense" is a weird cope. It's like saying "Haha, you were wrong about my wife cucking me with one man - she cucked me with two men. Get your facts straight."
>>2634755Because that is the only thing they can do. They can't fight america because the order was given to defend the "Spirit of Anchorage".
Fuck this planet.
>>2634759The US has finally figured out that "if you get rid of Putin, the hardliners will come in" was a psyop. The US now knows that there's only Medvedev larping as a tough guy on social media (while still pretending that muh Anchorage was legitimate). If there were actual hardliners, they would've deep-sixed the cuck by now.
2026 might be a dangerous year.
>>2634747>The Americans just used Ukrainian meat they don't care about to kill hundreds of thousands of Russian menno shit.
also, as if Russia hasn't killed a bunch of ameriburgers in Ukraine either.
>>2634772Probably at most 500 "mercs" and "trainers." Whatever the exact numbers are, they are incomparable.
>>2634776
>defending Cucktin by using talking NAFO talking points
Wew.
>>2634750no, you get it through your thick skull. it's not Russian sweat and blood that will free you. They tried to internationalize their revolution on the 20th century, they put sweat and blood to do it, and the west simply refugeed inside the most reactionary, spooked, recalcitrant, and chauvinist anti-communist/russophobic sentiment anyone could image. they will not do that again, unless you start on your own.
>>2634784spare me the lecture, 3 years ago you would have been using 'illegal invasion'. I never claimed it wasn't an act of international law defiance. I simply understood that who violated the agreements first: the EU/US.
>>2634799>3 years ago you would have been using 'illegal invasion'.So your feverish imagination about what I would have said vs. what you've actually said. Okay, bro. It's silly that you're adopting NAFO/hegemon talking points now just to defend Cucktin from charges of hyper-legalism.
>>2634805>fevirish imaginationI know who the cookteen posters are, has been and always been. encloseted nafo.
Reminder that campism is a vehicle to develop revolutionary conditions. Lenin was a campist.
>>2634813You're the one adopting NAFO/hegemon talking points by calling Russia's act of self-defense illegal. Sheds new light on why you're so obsessed about those who want Putin to harden his heart: that's bad for NAFO and the hegemon.
>>2634813>encloseted nafobut enough about putin
>>2634805NAFO/Hegemon talking point is that all invasions are illegal with their own ones being justified. They don't therefore just call it an illegal invasion, they call it also unjustified and a war of aggression and an attack on democracy, etc.
Nevertheless, you do have to confront the fact that Russia is not hyper-legal, they're just not egregious outlaws like the US is.
>>2634795>They tried to internationalize their revolution on the 20th century, they put sweat and blood to do it, and the west simply refugeed inside the most reactionary, spooked, recalcitrant, and chauvinist anti-communist/russophobic sentiment anyone could image. they will not do that again, unless you start on your own.truth nuke
>>2634795the gall on the westoids. They will slander every leftist movement in the world. They will present themselves as the greatest victims of the world, despite the fact that they constantly enslave and plunder others to live comfortable lives.
And then they have audacity to bitch that other leftist countries are not spilling blood to come and 'liberate' them.
Liberate them from what? From themselves.
>>2634826I could feel it in the bubbles, my champagne senses on my tongue were tingling
tbf, it could be the flag sockpuppet who was around earlier.
>>2634817I've been in ITT before even its inception, before it was the SMO, when the war drums were beating, pre-feb 2022. I know very well the nafo trolls who cried 'muh international laws' (Yugoslavia, hello? Iraq invasions, Libya invasion, Panama invasion, etc. etc. hello?), after immediate defeat, they all cried that, but when Russia agreed to move out their forces from the outskirts of Kiev, and Chernigov, that later cascaded in the ukrainian offensives because kiev got free, and the Russian army had to redeploy, they all danced around how weak cooookteen is.
same bs now, with the American PR.
>>2634837The SMO wasn't illegal, sockpuppet.
>>2634770Shit you are actually right probably. I swear somebody would have given him the yeltsin talk already.
Uhodi Blyat.
Putin the measured. Putin the deliberate. Putin the unfettered.
>>2634835No that guy is too seething to attempt to be funny.
But fr I'm responding to the claim that the invasion of Ukraine being illegal is a NAFO talking point, well no because no one really cares whether invasions are illegal or not because it basically never is legal, NAFO talking points are to delineate between invasions that are justified and unjustified. They're wholly disinterested in whether the NATO attack on, say Libya, was legal because they're operating on how it was justified, compared to how they reason to themselves Russia's invasion of Ukraine was unjustified (I.e they hate freedom, democracy, need to bring the big spoon back to Ukraine, etc)
>>2634855Putin the Cucked
>>2634865The same person who claims China lost their critical support for being red fash
>>2634859Nah, I mean that the flag sockpuppet who was stealing your flag earlier could be stealing the Las FARC flag now. Probably saw the new thread bake from the real Las FARC and moved to that flag.
>>2634855Vladimir "She didn't sleep with one man, she slept with three" Putin
>>2634865Himself. Specifically his desire to return to tradition of imperial russia idealism which is cucking him beyond belief. I swear it's always the grandsons that hate their fathers but love their grandpas
Fuck you putin. You are so cucked that real cucks pale in comparison to your cuckoldry.
>cuck cuck cuckoldry cucking cuckold cuckoo cucktin
Just why?
>>2634868Oh, well nah I think it's a reasonable point to make, claiming that Russia is hyper-legalist (in the sense they don't want to see to be doing anything illegal) contradicts their invasion, which even if perfectly legal and justified by all UN convention, would be denounced as illegal and evil and blah anyway.
What anon Las FARC is replying to is doing, is downplaying the US' lawlessness by just suggesting that
not being a complete criminal state is ackshually hyper-legality.
>>2634841>>2634819nafo don't get to call names to others
>>2634880It's hyper-legal imo when a strategic peer is psychopathically pointing a gun at your head (stated objective of Balkanizing you, gloats in its press about supplying the intel required to terrorize you, etc.), after having just kidnapped a harmless president from elsewhere in the world, and your first response to a Yet Another (tm) provocation is to pixelate the incident and cite arcane maritime laws.
>>2634892So these 2 subreddits have the same users?
>>2634916You're doing a lousy job of sockpuppeting. I don't even particularly like the real Las FARC, but he wouldn't call the SMO illegal.
I don't know what the mods should do about this in general. Nobody wants to go through the hassle of using a tripcode. I thought about flag limits per thread - max one flag per thread - but that doesn't solve the problem of someone malicious getting in there first.
>>2634830Literally, I am in my own native Spanish language speaking to people about how the US wants to get Venezuelan oil for free, and the reactionary,
the poor is poor because they want to, right-wing trolls reply: "muh what do you think Russia, Iran and China wants from Venezuela [hint ;) ;) it's not the arepas)]" and here we have the cookteenists doing their work for free, from the 'left', doing again more antagonism to Russia.
because nothing screams lauder 'I am leftist' that imply that the world can't rely on Russia security guaranties, and should run to the us for those security guaranties (immediate average conclusion).
Campism is a vehicle to develop revolutionary conditions.
>>2634924>max one flag per thread I mean a max of one of each type of flag per thread.
>>2634918The whole hyper-legalist, Putin wants to appease the west while fighting them, Russia too scared to be permanently exiled from the neo-lib internationale, etc angle is just memory hole'ing the reality that NATO and the US were extremely adamant that Russia invading Ukraine was
their redline and crossing it would result in a severe retaliation that Russia would instantly regret and force them to reverse course. Russia then went and invaded anyway and thus far have failed to be deterred by any US/NATO action into surrendering and retreating back over the 1991 borders.
It's not really a surprise therefore that the collective west is desperate to frame Russia as cucked for not nuking the world over a handful of downgraded tanks given to Ukraine, or literal terrorist attacks or fucking piracy on the high seas, because NATO was cucked on February 24th 2022 and are still coping with that same ongoing cuckening
>>2634926You mean usa wants to extract oil themselves.
>>2634930for free. literally for free.
we are gonna take the oil, threatening to Venezuela who can or can't buy their oil.
>>2634934You mean they are going to steal all the oil barrels and tankers?
>>2634934So they are going to use slave labour?
>>2634929I'm glad Putin boldly crossed their red line in 2022. That doesn't mean I'm happy with all his actions since he realized that the US was going to commit more resources to Ukraine than it did to Georgia and Crimea.
He should eliminate the terrorist leaders like Budanov just because they're terrorists. But for some reason his legalism doesn't extend there, so maybe he's not hyper-legalist after all ;)
>>2634099This bitch ass uygha keeps letting me down
>>2634949It's worse than that. Apparently there was no navy response at all.
Putin is an agent of the west.
>>2634943Well the only important thing is here that Russia crossed that redline despite all threats made of some cataclysm for Russia if they did, Russia is still over that redline with no sign of turning back, while US/NATO were immediately humiliated because demands for no-fly zones were initially met with cautious offers of non-lethal aid.
Yes, the US/NATO have upped the ante since then, but a lot of the redlines they crossed they then walked back from. Yes they gave downgraded Abrams to Ukraine, against the advice from Russia if the US wanted to end the conflict with dialogue rather than by military means, but that in of itself was kind of a one off crossing of the redline, walked back and not to be crossed again with much more or even indefinite supplies of downgraded tanks. And that's kind of representative of most crossing of redlines, the US/NATO keeps cucking the cucktinists because they're thinking
>Yes! This is it, send a few downgraded Abrams today, send the American crews tomorrow, then the upgraded Abrams, then thousands of them! The frog WILL be boiledand it never happens, Trump just grows a peg leg and wears a patch and says sorry cucktinists we be drinking some rum and shanghai'ing us some booty from that thar empty tanker!
>>2634953He's a coin-flip agent of the West. If the coin lands on tails, he does what a Russian stronk leader would do. If the coin lands on heads, he does what an agent of the West would do.
>>2634957Someone should change that coin.
I think I'm going to write a book titled The Spirit of Anchorage: A Communist Critique. I do mean a critique and not a criticism.
One day. Right after all the other abandoned projects.
>The vessel was chartered by a private trader and was named Bella 1. It was operating under the flag of Guyana. Its crew consisted of 28 people, including six citizens of Georgia, 17 of Ukraine, three of India, and two Russians.<two RussiansWell how about that?
https://swentr.site/news/630725-russian-flagged-oil-tanker-seizure/ >>2635004Maestro is at it again. The 4d chess.
>>2635008What do you mean, who is surprised that a commercial tanker had a multi-national crew?
So that is the power of pereMAGA, cucking Russia by creating a diplomatic scandal in illegally and militarily arresting civilians from Georgia, Ukraine and India, three countries the US wants on-side against Russia.
>>2635008The Champagne is one of my fav posters, notwithstanding my public service announcements. Sometimes I sit and watch his salvage operations in awe. There are flashes of genius there.
>>2635034All two of them, as it turns out. Proper treatment and release is also a pretty standard expectation for when your citizens have been wrongfully arrested in an illegal raid.
<ha but ChampSoc, you're forgetting the US doesn't care and will probably epstein them just because they can!well that reflects badly on the US doesn't it? Particularly with the other nations whose civilians they're arresting illegally.
>>2635049>gone from Z's coping about it being a foreign-flagged vessel with no Russian citizens to being a Russian-flagged vessel with no Russian citizens to being a Russian-flagged vessel with only two Russian citizensheh
>only two
>only three
>only four
I dunno about any of you, but I insist on there being 7.4 Russian citizens and 2.3 Russian pets before I get out of bed.
>>2635059Never claimed any of that I don't think, I was operating on the same assumption everyone else had that the vessel was entirely Russian crewed, probably based on the accusation in the western press that the "Shadow Fleet" is a meticulously organised flotilla of the Russian Navy merely pretending to be civilian operated ships.. rather than being the result of illegally seizing commercial ships because you think sanctions are enforceable in international waters
Go on you are a bit disappointed that the crew weren't all Russians with Russian Navy tattoos
>>2635078Trying too hard to push that thru. You wanted zero Russians, eh…
>>2635123Not really sure how that would be possible if they were able to re-flag themselves as a Russian vessel and apparently being followed by a Russian sub.
>>2635078>It wasn't actually a Russian vessel>Ok it was a Russian vessel but there were no Russians on it>Ok it was a Russian vesssl and there were a few Russians there but it's fine because Trump will treat them nicely YOU ARE NOW HERE
>Ok so the US will now start openly kidnapping Russian civilians and torturing them but this is ok because [insert Champ's next cope here] >>2635131Again, you're going to have to point out where I said any of that, because I'm surprised myself the crew wasn't all Russian and I feel a bit dumb for not considering that a civilian ship probably has a multi-national crew when that's pretty standard.
Like the scandal was exclusively discussed as affecting Russia, it didn't seem to occur to anyone that this is also a scandal for Georgia, Ukraine and India whom the US needs to keep at the very least Georgia and India on-side against Russia
>>2635131It's just setting oneself up for future ridicule. I'm pro-Z but a realist. Many of the pro-Z copes from 2022 look quaint because betting on America being unwilling to cross certain lines is a losing bet. It will get there in time.
>>2635142The slope will become slippery enough.. in time.
Meanwhile celebrations of a perfect humiliation of Russia once again gets revealed in short order to be
slightly imperfect.
>>2635147>Ha! The US stole our oil shipment and kidnapped our civilians but um ackshually if you think about it… the situation could have been even worse so um…we won))))the absolute state of champ
i'm beginning to think you're a deep cover western agent tasked with lulling the russians to sleep
you should be shot to ensure russia's national security
>>2635167Based anti zionist finland.
>>2635170The tanker was apparently empty as well
>>2635173Yeah, because the US chased it out of Ven.
>>2635167>cut underwater cables<get arrested Many such cases.
>>2635170My favorite of all time is
>if you want Putin to hard his heart per the meme video, you're the NAFO supporter Also the issue isn't that it doesn't matter that two Russian civilians were illegally arrested by the US military, it's that the celebrations in the last thread were clearly based on an assumption it was an attack against Russia with seemingly no idea that actually it's an international scandal and the US has committed an illegality against more countries than just Russia.
>>2635186>Also the issue isn't that it doesn't matter that two Russian civilians were illegally arrested by the US militaryThe Champagne is often accused of stubborn zealotry and rigidity, but that's not right. As we see here, The Champagne has a bloodhound sense for when an approach is unviable and needs to be tossed, and he has the flexibility of mind required to do that tossing.
>>2635192Well look, cucktinists and their slippery slope theories should have learned to not count their chickens before they hatch. Lest they find themselves saying
>in timeagain.
>>2635201I see some tossing in this thread I'm frankly disgusted by, a few tossers as it were
>>2635214I never said that was my belief or hope, but cucktinists really were going hogwild with the idea that the US just captured a serious Russian asset rather than, what in hindsight is obvious, a civilian ship with a multi-national crew
>>2635186YOU FUCKING RETARD TRUMP LITERALLY KIDNAPPED MADURO AND YOU THINK HIS GOVERNMENT IS WORRIED ABOUT INTERNATIONAL LAW? OR A SCANDAL? WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LIVING ON? PLANET CUCK? SAY HI TO PUTIN FOR ME.
What a pirouette.
>>2635224this is like people in 2026 who point at pastors or conservative politicians and attack them for hypocrisy because they got caught bashing their meet to transhumanist porn or smoking crack, and say gotcha! thinking that it's made some great point and will somehow damage them.
>>2635224Well one of the claims was that Russia was going to find itself further isolated by its lack of a response to the US' illegality, but I suppose that's now down to well
>Russia>Ukraine>Georgia>India>Kazakhstan>Azerbaijanmany of whom are nations the US would like to have on-side against Russia.
>>2635186>Muh legalityTrump literally boasted about how he showed what cucks the Russians and Chinese actually are, might is right is the only thing that matters in a multipolar world and if Russia and China dont respond to aggression it they will simply lose this cold war before it even began. Stop making excuses for cucks.
>>2635249Do you not realise your disappointment is indeed obvious when you try this hard to turn it around?
>>2635255Cope. What else to say. Perhaps the silppery slope will result in the US detaching the Russian half of the ISS and watching it crash into Tel Aviv, or maybe they'll commit to destroying the global Vodka supply to deprive Russia of a key revenue source but inadvertently burn down Finland.
>>2635251Why do you unironically defend Putin?
>>2635224That's just your opinion, man. Putin has been losing his most vigorous defenders all over social- and alt-media, but he's not losing The Champagne, and that's that. Those fair-weather friends can take a hike. Loyalty is a rare trait in today's world, and The Champagne is loyal.
Does russia import vodka?
Champagne is an upper stiff lip brit. He will never surrender. He will fight in the beaches. Alone if necessary. That is the resolve of his cuckness' supporters.
>>2635270he is the cuck of cucks
>>2635263He has a humiliation fetish. We need to bring back Freud to do a full psychoanalysis. This is not normal. By now even the most ziggerest of ziggers know Putin is a moron and needs to be replaced by an actual leader. It's possible that Champ got lobotomized just like Gorbachev. We need to check for the telltale wine stain "birthmark". Champ post a selfie for us this is important.
>>2634332I want some oyakodon
>>2634332Here is a proof that russia is a matriarchy.
>>2634599The spectacle brain shit especially in this thread is really tiresome. Cucktin posters are all just dimwits asshurt that they can't live vicariously through their parasocial father figure spanking their bullies with nukes. It's bizarre.
>>2635294It's because the people who recognized Putin's shortcomings tended to be a bunch of obnoxious cunts to him, and it's just human to hold such grudges. I still hold grudges about people from twenty or more years ago lmao.
>>2635320When you live vicariously through someone, you get butthurt when that someone is attacked. Remind you of anyone?
>>2635224You're the fucking retard my dude, like all the other cuck-brained spectacle obsessed morons itt.
>>2635418Yep. The bots can smash cognitive tests and reading comprehension tests. Nearly everyone in my senior humanities classes can't.
>>2635186yeah diplomatically and politically its an L for america. sign of the times
>>2635394>so I can paste iti like how you explained to it like it would know or care
>>2635437I like how you glossed over the unnecessary greetings at the top ;-) I believe in treating my AI bots with dignity, thank you.
>>2635432How is labour going to become a primary want of life if bots can do all the physical and mental labour for us with a press of a button?
Ai bots made the individual differences in smartness irrelevant huh?
>>2635448Mostly tongue-in-cheek. My AI bots give me stupid hallucinations all the time. I can make them conclude anything, basically. But our relationship is real.
>>2635448future party polemics will be two chatbots furiously debating each other
>>2635448Because people demonstrably waste it on making non-arguments lmao
Ai bots are smarter than humans. Are we returning to monke in communism while bots provide neccesities and luxury?
>>2635461They're only as smart as the human who is asking the question and reading the answer, a big issues is going to be people running around claiming the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything is 42 in complete confidence that's the correct answer.
>>2635461>Ai bots are smarter than humans. I was lying about the cognitive and comprehension tests, bro. The only things I've found them useful for:
>short pieces of creative writing>occasionally finding new music or movies, but with nonexistent shit thrown into the mixThat's it. Completely untrustworthy for anything serious.
>>2635473Are you the one said chatbots have better comprehension than humans in previous thread?
>>2635471Or, on the contrary, if anon asked AI the question
>Based on what you've read in this thread, am I right in thinking ChampSoc is a humongous putinist bitch and I absolutely rekt'd himand the AI came back and said no, he is in fact coping because the US simply attacked a civilian vessel and not the Russian state asset he was hoping for, then we likely wouldn't be talking about AI right now
>>2635482Nope. The cognitive testing and comprehension testing is a common argument from AI bros on 4chud /g/ when I criticize AI. I was doing my best impersonation.
>>2635486Well, so you can't keep coping eternally that these seized ships (shipS) don't matter because they have only X Russian citizens or whatever, why not state precisely your threshold for when you consider the ship seizing a problem?
>>2635495Already made it clear that I think the US using the military to seize a civilian vessel is a problem, the counter argument being made was that it was a Russian asset and that makes this a problem not for the US or anyone else, just Russia. That's what's been proven wrong today and now has much discussion about profiling my character lol
EU mulling response to Trump’s Greenland threat>Foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas said discussions had taken place but declined to provide details<Speaking to reporters on Thursday, EU foreign policy chief Kallas said “the messages that we hear regarding Greenland are extremely concerning.” She added that European leaders have discussed “if this is a real threat, and if it is, what would be our response.”https://swentr.site/news/630738-kallas-eu-response-greenland-threat/Where is that firebrand for Europe's defence that Russia gets to see, eh Kallas?
>>2635504>Already made it clear that I think the US using the military to seize a civilian vessel is a problemOkay, but the US being a piece of shit isn't under dispute. What's your threshold for when Russian inaction is a problem? It doesn't have to be this ship thing - pick other common debates if you like. I'm trying to understand your threshold for when Putin's behavior is undeniably weak behavior.
>>2635509>yeah yeah boring the US is a piece of shit whatever LETS LOOK AT RUSSIA PLEASEHmmm, mmmmm, errrr no.
>>2635510It's like you don't want to actually commit to a position. You just want to continue being able to cope. No intellectual integrity. You just have a chip on your shoulder about Cucktinists being assholes.
ChampSoc doesn't trust that Putin won't embarrass him. LOL
>>2635516I mean perhaps living in an age where the US is lashing out in all directions, and vocalising its open contempt for international law and naysayers to the US' unassailable right via its might is boring for you,
for some reason, and find it more interesting to scrutinise the targets instead, but I'm highly suspicious of that
>>2634599 >186 replies
How will this help Ukraine win?
>On the night of Thursday, January 8, the Russian Armed Forces launched a massive attack on Ukraine. In Dnepropetrovsk, Pavlograd, Kamensk, Zaporizhia and Krivoy Rog, massive power outages occurred, local residents reported power surges, problems with water supply and communications. The metro and trains stopped in Dnepropetrovsk. In addition, all thermal power plants and substations stopped working.
>The mayor of Dnepropetrovsk, Boris Filatov, declared a national emergency in the Ukrainian city. He stated this in his Telegram channel.
>>2635533Bringing it back on topic, Ushanka-anon, yes!
NATO ally Ukraine that had a trillion dollars invested into it is getting its power network obliterated by Russian drones and CUCKATO's response is to seize a random rusty tanker in the Caribbean 😂
>>2635528I don't enjoy preaching to the choir about US imperialism. I assume every non-troll on this site knows how bad the US is. The US is not going to stop until opposed by sufficient hard power, so it's fair to scrutinize the inactions of those who have such hard power.
Anyway, I'm happy to commit and state my thresholds for when I'll no longer consider Putin weak. If you're ever willing to do something similar for your position, be loud about it, because I'm interested.
>>2635550>I don't enjoy preaching to the choir about US imperialism.>I'm happy to commit and state my thresholds for when I'll no longer consider Putin weak.Since you've just reiterated you find the US' actions to be boring and it more interesting to scrutinise the targets, I shall also reiterate:
Sus.
>>2635553Preaching to the choir is boring. Discussing US imperialism with conservative relatives is not boring, because there's something to change there.
>>2635558The choir is the global proletariat, so again, I have to say: Sus.
>>2635078told ya it was nafo.
>>2635565I think it's fair to say they were disappointed.
>>2635533I can imagine many have died because of the cold temperatures and lack of heat.
>>2635561already converted posters on leftypol = global proletariat
Okay, they were right about you. You're disingenuous. I think I'll just keep regarding you as the dope who spent years in /ukr/ without understanding basic Donbass geography.
>>2635565You said the SMO was illegal.
You should be banned for being a glowie.
>>2635224Putin should have teleported from Moscow and chop the helos and the missiles used on person, next. Putin better be doing this or eeeeelse!
>>2635579good. economic policies tied on recklessness deserve punishment.
when trump proclaimed a 1.5 trillion dollars expenditure for 2027, he was talking about offsetting the upcoming inflation.
>>2635574>US Imperialism is a rhetorical concern contained to leftypolI will gladly accept confusing Donetsk Oblast for a non-existent Donbass Oblast over spending presumably just as much time telling people US imperialism is boring, it's preaching to the choir and that means you MUST scrutinise their targets for how much of a bitch the US is making them look.
Marx willing, only one of those transgressions will be gulagable.
>>2635589Is it just Winter in Krivoy Rog, or has the slope with Russia become… slippery?
>>2635594I said I don't enjoy "preaching to the choir." The choir by definition is already converted:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/preach-to-the-choirpreach to the choir
idiom (also preach to the converted)
Add to word list
to try to persuade people who
already agree with you:
So therefore you're wrong when you try to change my "I don't enjoy preaching to the choir" into "I don't enjoy preaching to the global proletariat." You did this because you're a disingenuous hack.
>>2635616I'm afraid I don't see the part of the definition that included needing to then demand others scrutinise the target for how much of a bitch the US is making them look, could you please show me that part of the definition?
Because I think you can "preach to the choir" about US imperialism, but to a thread that is hyping up how much US imperialism is supposedly embarrassing a target and demand I engage with that to disprove the embarrassment, that's where I begin to doubt your sincerity.
>>2635635I mean the slope is so slippery after stealing a civilian vessel, perhaps the US is going to now seize military ships of all three nations!
>>2635629You have no sincerity. There's a distinction between saying "I don't enjoy preaching to the choir" and "I don't enjoy preaching to the global proletariat" (because the global proletariat has many who are yet to be converted, making talking with them enjoyable). If you were unaware of the idiom, that was your chance to admit fault, but it looks malicious now to say, as you said in,
>>2635561, that "The choir is the global proletariat."
>>2635629Simply ignore the cucktin poster and he will go away.
I actually give him the benefit of the doubt and think he's just a massive autist and not a malicious agent, but his effect on the thread is no different from a nafo raid. I post a curious thing about a new drone and his response is
>ERRRRRMMM WHY DOESN'T CUCKLER SHOVE IT DIRECTLY INTO ZELENSKY'S ASS??? IS HE A CUCK? EHEHEH… >>2635658Nothing you say can change the fact that people with who agreed with you for years, people who posters like Int Brigade cited extensively, have woken up about the need for a change of approach toward the Americans. I know it makes you mad too as you cling to irrelevance.
>If you want Putin to do anything other than sit in a cuck chair in response to Western escalation, you are NAFO
Does Champ really think anyone ITT buys that bullshit "argument"
>>2635666He didn't post during the "harden your heart, Putin…increase your attacks" era. He's a more recent character who inserted himself into the general and started tamping down on that meme.
>>2635658I understand but we can't have people coming here astro-turfing the thread with essentially the claim that we're cheerleaders for Putin because we don't believe a criticism of US Imperialism is "preaching to the choir" quite yet, either on leftypol and beyond, and that we should in fact give up on caring about US Imperialism when the targets are apparently "too cucked" against the lawlessness of the US.
>>2635676>ChampSoc historians nowjfc lmao, I always posted in this thread, I just started using a flag after about a year because I was already being recognised as a personality for frequently opposing the
>Just nook lvovov and call it a day pootintake
>>2635682You're a suspicious tourist who came here and took a dump on calls for Putin heart-hardening, something that was a fun meme here from the beginning.
>>2635687The "fun meme" here from the beginning was ukrop gore posting, whether it was showing "evidence" of Russian human wave tactics or RSS feeding every bit of spectacle distraction from Ukraine as shit started going south for them, I have been in here ensuring the "choir" of the thread is not fucking NAFOids and US imperialism apologists.
>>2635665You can be 100% correct and still be obnoxious and toxic to discussion.
We know that you feel very strongly that Putin is a cuck. Now what? What is the discussion to be had? What do you want this thread to be, just hundreds of posts saying "cuck" on end?
I remember winding up the gore poster by asking him if he was a murderer repeatedly, since that would explain why he has such a massive folder on his PC of gore footage
>>2635692You don't even recognize the reference to the "harden your heart" meme video, tourist. You started posting here in mid-to-late 2023. Before using your champagne flag, you spent a long time trying to make heart-hardening posters wet their pants at the thought of NATO
PANIK. That didn't work too well, so then you switched to accusing them of being NAFO infiltrators, something you've continued since adopting the flag. You've also increased your repertoire by throwing willful misinterpretation into the mix. But nothing you say can change the fact that calls for Putin to harden his heart were a fun meme here from the beginning, you Westoid shill.
>>263564
I know you might be facetious but military personnel behave very differently. years of training to precisely accommodate the idea of better dying than leave the enemy unscathed, enemy as in, whoever is trying to hurt them.
>>2635722Of course I do, it's some video of someone from the global south (I don't remember exactly who) asking in his accent for Putin to harden his heart, that was a fun meme with people who were also debating against Ukrainian fascism, NATO expansion, revelled in the US's weakness and tolerated quite a lot more in terms of Russian failures during the early months of the conflict, I don't think those people are the same as those now who ensure at least 500 posts of each thread contains the word "cuck" and claiming Ukraine/NATO is going to win because of said cuckoldry. On the other hand, goreposting disappeared (often deleted and banned) right around the time the "noook lvov" posting appeared.
>>2635748>went and Googled the video>thought adding "I don't remember exactly who" would make it seem like he's using mental recollectionWe know what you're doing here and have known for a long time. That's the only reason some of us reply to you, to see whether you slip and leak things you shouldn't. But you've been a transparent shill from the beginning.
>>2635756>….you googled itfucking pathetic
>>2635758You didn't catch the reference earlier because you're a 2023 infiltrator.
>>2635750champsoc already explained very well what I tried to do, what I tried to explain and convey when I saw this laughable, silly shit:
>>2634643>muh Putin hyperlegalitywestern idiots can't grasp that there's no such a thing as legality since the US invaded the Korean peninsula. simply, Russia decided to not follow the same no-rules club in 2022, and now 3 years later people pretend that Putin isn't unfollowing international laws fast enough.
>>2635756>We know what you're doing here and have known for a long timeWhatever he's doing, he isn't derailing every single discussion into psychoanalyzing cucktin and flagfags.
>>2635763You're claiming that the "harden your heart oh putin" posts from that time is the same as anons now who post
>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuck>cuckall day every day, I don't think that's the case.
>>2635770You called the SMO illegal in post
>>2634776 and have now deleted it to cover your tracks so people can't see what you wrote and see who's lying.
>>2635772Must be a coincidence they all use flags, heheh. Literally every one.
>>2635797I will continue to call for Putin to harden his heart against Ukraine, and you're just gonna have to grin and bear it, NATO shill.
I will say as well, during the great board reset where half the flags went missing, you noflagfags were demanding me to put the flag back on before it was even re-instated. The possibility you'd have to talk to my posts and not fall back on psychoanalysis was too much, too scary, too difficult apparently
>>2635783I 100% did not delete the post.
>>2634799I don't run, I don't weasel out, and don't care what you think.
as long people like champsoc understood why I am explaining, it's enough for me.
>>2635801Not sure why I would quit now, US imperialism apologist
>>2635805You did delete the post in which you said the SMO violated international laws. I called you out for it in
>>2634784, and as everyone can see from the referenced post there, you've deleted it.
>>2635813I hope Putin decides to go super hard on Ukraine so that all your NATO shilling is reduced to naught.
>>2635819I hope you get super hard about something other than US imperialism
>>2635822Harden your heart, Putin, increase your attacks!
>>2635828Stay the course Russia, you've reduced US imperialism shills to losing their shit over piracy of empty oil tankers crewed mostly by Ukrainians
>>2635830I prefer the OG meme over NATO slop.
>>2635844I prefer the OG thread, in general.
>>2635846Bruh, you only recently even figured out how to bake the new thread without screwing up the old-thread link.
>>2635850Man what else do you have in your ChampSoc diary? I'm going to have to take Ushanka's advice after all because that's just weird now and kinda pathetic that a grown adult would think that's an own
>>2635816it wasn't deleted by me. I don't remember where the deleted post record link is, but I don't delete my posts for no reason. I stand my ground, and I know what I said.
>>2635861>it wasn't deleted by meThe moment of realization sets in :D
Yes or no. Did you say that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws? Think very carefully.
>>2635867Oh yeah! I remember where this went, you pussed out with
>>2634826 because you didn't have a point to make anyway, just grasping at straws because your only real point is you obsessing about flags
>>2635876Seems you're confusing your posting windows there.
Actually yeah, replacing Putin with Kane could be based
>>2635881Oh what the fuck are you talking about this time?
>>2635886What a strange reply to a simple yes/no post asking the, uh, other flag whether he called the SMO a violation of UNSC/UN laws. It's a simple question.
>attempts to deflect continue
dey nervous boys
>>2635892>the, uh, other flagSigh, really?
As an OG, I don't believe that Russia's SMO violated UNSC/UN laws. Curious why Las FARC believes otherwise.
>>2635900 (me)
I mean, now that it's clear that it's the real Las FARC and not a sockpuppet, a benefit of the doubt I gave in
>>2634835. Why does he think that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws?
>>2635901Curry's performance was RA3's main saving grace. The campaign and the gameplay could never reach the iconic greatness that's RA2.
Generals is interesting because it predicted China becoming a new superpower eclipsing the USA and eventually removing it from Europe all the way in 2003, back when PRC was still developing.
>>2635926Take it to /games/ please.
If you feel that US imperialism is under-discussed, discussing that is fair game (I think US imperialism connected with Venezuela is also fair game for the Ukraine thread, because it's part of a global anti-Russian program), but some of us are older than 30 and aren't into video games.
Zelensky asks US to kidnap Chechen leader>Ramzan Kadyrov shot back, urging the Ukrainian to “man up” and try doing it himself<“The buffoon suggests the US authorities kidnap me. Mind you, he didn’t even threaten to do it himself, like a man would. He didn’t even attempt to entertain the thought. [Zelensky] cowardly hinted that he wouldn’t mind standing aside and watching from a safe distance,” Kadyrov wrote on his Telegram channel.https://swentr.site/russia/630713-zelensky-us-kidnap-kadyrov/I reckon Zelensky would try to do it himself, and finally wear a suit as well, if Britain let him be the next James Bond.
>00Z: Dr No Givas>00Z: The Man with the Golden Tomahawk >00Z: From Russia with Ceasefires>00Z: Givasraker>00Z: License to Shill>00Z: On Bandera's SS Service>00Z: Live and let others die>00Z: The givas is not enough>00Z: No time to lie >>2635867> Did you say that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws? Think very carefully.pf, it did. and I never in these 3, now almost 4 years, that they didn't, and as I've explained already, Minsk I, II, and Yugoslavia are all precedents that makes me say: I don't f.ing care, I didn't f. care, I won't f.ing care.
I was never asked by then, because I was only fighting their ridiculous 'rules base order' moralist guilt trip shit, but if I were asked by then that's what I would have said.
>>2635951I reckon those movies must be better than any of nielsen's naked gun.
>>2635951Zelensky still mad about how he apologized to Kadyrov in 2019 lmao
>>2635956Thank you for your honesty. But it's a Westoid talking point. Russia has carefully articulated why its SMO adheres to those laws. The reason the "international community of US vassal states" disputes Russia's take is that it also disputes some very fundamental premises that no genuine pro-Z poster here would dispute, among them that Ukraine was targeting ethnic Russians in Donbass.
>>2635962 (me)
I have acted on my belief that you were a glowie shilling, but if it's just a case of an innocent misunderstanding, I apologize and urge you to do some more reading.
Okay I've got more
>00Z: Snowfinger - sort of like bowfinger with Steve Martin but it's snow as in cocaine on Zelensky's finger
>00Z: From Russia with Gerans - better one
>00Z: Blunderstall - basically describes counteroffensyivs
>00Z: The guy who loved me - Zelensky and Starmer, might be pornographic, that's up to imagination
>00Z: Tomorrow never dies - I mean that doesn't even need changing, that is the primary hope for Zelensky right now
ukros are claiming oreshnik strike on lvov, but probably a psyop
>>2635983Unite us, Putin.
If they're freaking out and whining, it's likely true.
If they're saying it malfunctioned or some Ukro granny destroyed the MIRVs with her badminton bat or something like that, it's likely false.
Hoping Putin listened to the OGs.
But in all seriousness, there's a pattern
>We've been attacked with Russian superweapon GIVAS NAO
then when givas is given
<Ha Russia wishes they struck us where they said they struck us but where is the photographic evidence we'd have to provide hmm?
>>2635996Is Cucktin hardening his heart finally?
Anyone got any footage better than this completely useless footage:
https://nitter.net/WW3_Monitor/status/2009384827129147817The blue lights are usually from graphite bombs targeting energy infra (unless Russia has tested out a Yars?).
You have my attention, Putin, so I'm gonna be pissed off if this is some fake-news givas pan-handling.
>>2636002It will be something infrastructural going bang and it will be big because it's something previously untouched and Kiev will still not capitulate and a nightclub will use a diesel generator and then of course
>cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >Massive attack on Ukraine: Lviv under enemy fire, first details>Kyiv • UNN>January 8 2026, 10:20 PM • 92 views>After the air raid alert, explosions were heard in Lviv. A critical infrastructure facility was attacked, possibly the Stryi gas field.>After the air raid alert in Lviv, a series of explosions were heard. This was reported by the city mayor Andriy Sadovyi, informs UNN.Details
>According to him, they are currently "finding out what exactly happened, whether there were hits and in which area.">Meanwhile, the head of the Lviv Regional Military Administration Maksym Kozytskyi reported that a critical infrastructure facility was attacked.>Meanwhile, local publics report that the sounds of explosions in Lviv region were heard even in Ternopil and Rivne regions. According to monitoring channels, the enemy targeted the Stryi gas field and gas storage facility in Lviv region with an "oreshnik" type missile.https://unn.ua/en/news/massive-attack-on-ukraine-lviv-under-enemy-fire-first-details
>Event: The U.S. embassy in Kyiv has received information concerning a potentially significant air attack that may occur at any time over the next several days. The embassy, as always, recommends U.S. citizens be prepared to immediately shelter in the event an air alert is announced.https://ua.usembassy.gov/security-alert-u-s-embassy-kyiv-ukraine-january-8-2026/ >>2636014No, it will be great that he didn't Stay The Course.
>>2636023Attacking infrastructure has been the course since the last
>cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck threads about Ukraine's drone strikes against oil infrastructure, the thread continues to
>cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck >cuck because Budanov is alive, Zelensky is alive, Trump is alive, etc
>>2636029I know, that's why I mentioned the blue lights that usually appear when energy infra is targeted. I thought you were talking about other infra that will be "big because it's something previously untouched." No reason for anyone to play down escalations from Putin. I prefer that over Staying The Course.
>>2636036>No reason for anyone to play down escalations from Putin.Lol, lmao even. Okay.
>>2636047Lmao I watched it like four times without realising, but yep looks quite a lot like that Oreshnik strike
>>2635962you're a fucking retard
just cause russian used some legal handwaving (using the same arguments used by nato against yugoslavia) does not mean they're right
it was a violation of international law, which does not mean they had no justification or that they're the ones who crafted the crisis in the first place
>>2636055It wasn't legal handwaving. Russia made a compelling case for why the SMO adhered to UNSC/UN laws. The NATO scum who disagree tend to lose the argument as time-wasters the moment they dispute basic facts like Ukraine's targeting of ethnic Russians in Donbass.
>>2636065>compelling case only if you're the kind of retard that believe cultural suppression is genocide, or that some internal repression justify an aggression war (aka the kind of retards who justify nato intervention in yugoslavia)
>>2636047Definitely looks like the Oreshnik again or something similarly advanced. The cuck belt may in fact have been removed.
>>2636067Go away, spook. SMO adhered to international laws.
>>2636076oreshnik strike right on the polish border might signal at least one pair of gloves coming off at least
>>2636067kys cunt, every FAB is justified
>>2636081I think the more important sign of Oreshnik use is both Yuzhmash and this strike against underground gas storage is demonstrating its bunker busting capabilities, it's not like the Ukrainians will have built bunkers themselves that Russia doesn't have the Soviet schematics/maps of
>>2636081>right on the polish borderYep, one of the factors as to why I have no intention to play it down. I don't even care what the target was at this point, tbh. It could be an empty plain, but the fact it's being reported as some massive underground gas facility is a bonus.
>>2636100Hmmm 16 minutes is still enough time for the GUR to claim on Xitter that 9001 Oreshniks were shot down
Very ballsy on the Polish border. Shows how much confidence Russia's strat forces have in their precision. Will be fun watching NAFOs cope after reporting a year of fake Oreshnik malfunctions and mocking its accuracy.
I feel comfortable suspending my Cucktin posting for at least six months. Very happy today.
>>2636100Skimming through Ukro Telegrams. Relying on translations, so dunno what tone gets lost, but it's interesting how sober and spooked they are when Russia escalates like this. Because deep down they know perfectly well that only the geriatric restraint is saving them.
>>2636067>that some internal repression justify an aggression warRussia made his own rule of law, tough tomatoes. after ukraine decided not to follow Minsk I, II, and arm itself with nato weapons, posing a threat, something was always a pressing matter for Russia.
>>2636130ukraine was violating UN Security Council resolution 2202 when it continually kept attacking Donbas. Ukraine was violating international law.
>>2636112Admit that you're happy
Cucktin Putin didn't stay the course, dork. You want to inject this into your veins. I am erect af right now. I was worried Zelensky was setting up a new GoFundMe, but no, looks legit.
>>2636131>Going to bed on a high note, hope I won't wake up to another nothingburgerAnd you wonder why some of us became cuck posters. But in seriousness, this looks legit now that we've gotten better footage. Something big definitely happened - an Oreshnik or more advanced missile, going by the better footage now and the timing of the Kapustin Yar activity (KY activity with NOTAM is usually a test nothingburger, KY without NOTAM is bad news).
>>2636081>every FAB is justifieddestroying a nato proxy is always justified. But that does not make it compliant with international law, and your inability to recognize it is pretty telling of your stupidity, make me think of trumpers denying reality because they perceive it as an attack of their side (she was trying to run him over!). Its not like international law matters or the US regime changing is in accordance with it either.
>>2636147>didn't stay the courseWe've already seen attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure and the use of the Oreshnik, more importantly, we've seen cucktinists claim both were a nothingburger which you must remember if you can recall every typo I've make for the last four years. Like it's really sweet you're going through a redemption arc where those are escalations, but you'll have to forgive me for not believing that's not just you falling for reverse psychology in a vain attempt to get another attempt at an infantile own in.
Just get the fuck over yourself already,
Speaking of typos though, clearly that's enough posting for today for me as well
Oreshnik attack is still a nothing burger, change my mind
>>2636168An Oreshnik in Lvov near the Polish border is a huge escalation vs. the "safe" growth-spurts one in 2024. And I have no idea what typos you're on about. I don't make fun of typos, because 9 times out of 10, that makes me typo. There's some Internet law for that I don't remember.
>>2636116>I feel comfortable suspending my Cucktin posting for at least six months.a week maybe for me
>>2636177kinda agree
>>2636181>An Oreshnik in Lvov near the Polish border is a huge escalationnothing short of directly engaging the US is a "huge escalation"
>>2636181Not any more than Russian drones supposedly entering Polish airspace or the Russian airforce supposedly entering Baltic airspace.
The biggest escalation was the Russian plane dumping fuel on a US surveillance drone and another Russian plane buzzing a US airforce plane, both long forgotten because the US wanted them to be.
>>2636207I rate this considerably higher on the escalation scale. Even though there was no airspace violation, I expect the Poles to seethe more than they did about the missile that exploded on their territory that they blamed on Russia at first.
Anyway, I know how shitty it is arguing with someone before bed, so sincerely have a good night if that's where you're headed.
>>2636241Oh and cucktinists have also claimed such attacks don't uncuck cucktin from cucking out and selling gas/oil to Ukraine indirectly in the first place. Again, you know this, we don't have to argue about this. That being said, yes I am going to bed now, so sweet dreams fellow new putinist fren x
Looks like they may have reconfigured it for deeper reach.
do we need the monke apology form?
>>2636296Fucking kek. Ukros in Lvov whining about the nasty smell.
>>2636296>>2636328Oops, quoted wrong post. Whatever
>immediate damage control
Oreshnik strike real and hit something good confirmed
>>2636340Ruzzians running out of tanks?
>>2636208in words of hegseth:
>the american air defenses apparently were turned off. >>2636339based. Putinists™ need to know that they are completely wrong on the other former members of the ussr. They won't have you revolting on their watch
Hopefully this sticks a fork in the Spirit of Anchorage and I don't have to hear about it again.
>>2636344State Dept thinks Russia doesn't deserve to sell 'em. I think Europe doesn't deserve to buy 'em. Moot point with their economies on life support, tho.
>>2636472>I think Europe doesn't deserve to buy 'emand yet, they so desperately circumvent their own sanctions.
>>2636502You're misreading that possibly. I'm insulting Europe.
>>2634643>PompeyyCan Americans STAHP?
THE CORRECT WAY IS "POMPEII"
>>2636582uh it's Pympeyy (Пипмеiï) sweetie, he was an ukrainian
>>2636339The first Oreshnik use failed to restore deterrence. This one might?
>>2636655>muh deterrenceRussia can dismantle any asset they choose with oreshnik, without the need to use bunker busters or nukes. Kinetic energy is this huge. Attacks on Russian energy sector are reciprocated by Russia dismantling Ukrainian energy sector, as simple as.
>>2636656The US, which is providing all the targeting intel for attacks inside Russia, apparently doesn't care about the Ukrainian energy sector, though?
>Ukraine to initiate an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council and the Ukraine-NATO Council following Russia's Oreshnik missile strike on Lviv Oblast
lol, lmao
>>2636896pwease don't do it again :(
I see the russian chauvinists are polishing their knobs over the new wunderwaffen
>>2635533People were in here bitching for months about Russia not de-electrifying Ukraine.
>>2636960That's vegetable greenhouses burning. Literally Holodomor 5.0, Putin is destroying Ukrainian food
>>2636962It’s worse than that. The grills at McDonalds are gas powered in Ukraine.
>>2636963Oh god, Putin is destroying the very ability of Ukraine to house Western troops. Feeding NATO soldiers has become impossible. Curse you, Putin!!!1
>>2636965>Western troopsTo be come the burger, you must eat the burger
>As of September 2025, Andrey Biletskiy, commander of the Azov Corps, publicly criticized the exemption of McDonald's employees in Ukraine from military conscription, contrasting their status with that of critical infrastructure workers who are being drafted>A new TikTok video released by the [Ukrainian] Defense Ministry showcases how many McDonald’s cheeseburgers a recruit can buy by signing up for a year of service. The video features a man exiting a McDonald’s restaurant and revealing that 15,625 burgers can be purchased with the equivalent of $24,000. This amount is offered as part of a special contract for recruits aged 18 to 24, with an upfront payment of $5,400. >>2636972It’s such a bizarre obsession, also kinda weird to bury him with a Happy Meal specifically..
🇺🇸🇷🇺It seems that the conflict regarding the detention of the Russian vessel Marinera by the Americans, which changed its flag and registration while at sea, is gradually being "toned down".
Donald Trump released two Russian citizens, who were part of the ship's crew, and Dmitry Medvedev publicly called the decision to change the ship's registration to Russian "not a very adequate way" of protection against the Americans "with predictable consequences".
Apparently, it has been realized that the US's bluff in this way did not work, and the Russian Navy has few ways to provide real protection for its tankers in the event of an active confrontation with the US fleet. Moreover, the spirit of Anchorage could be damaged, which is not beneficial for either the US or Russia.
>Spirit of Anchorage
>>2636977I mean you have to remember these are fucking kids in many cases, they haven't had a chance to develop 'mature' interests
>>2636986Also calling the seizure of a tanker a "bluff", Russia also probably just invaded "ironically" and "as a joke". Intel Slava is a fucking retard.
>>2636988>Russia also probably just invaded "ironically" and "as a joke"Yeah? Ukrops just can't take a bit of trolling
>>2636987Choosing to join Azov has to be the result of a mature interest, right?
>>2637009Cucktin will allow it
Both Russian crew members have now been release btw
WHY THE FUCK IS CUCKTIN WASTING ORESHNIKS ON BUMFUCK VILLAGE KILLING ONLY 4 RANDOM NOBODIES
THE UKRONAZIS JUST KILLED ONE OF YOUR GENERALS, THEY ATTACKED YOUR RESIDENCE, AND YOU'RE BOMBING 4 RANDOM DRUNKARDS?
>>2637009THE EU LEADERS AND CUCKTIN ARE RUNNING A CUCK CONTEST
>>2637051It has no value as a conventional bomb. Its a message to west.
>>2637055WHAT MESSAGE YOU COPING CUCKTIN WORSHIPPER
WHAT MORE MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED
BOMB THE UKRO PARLIAMENT
BOMB ALL THE NAZI SHRINES
KILL KILL KILL BOMB BURN DESTROY
>>2637057>BOMB THE UKRO PARLIAMENT>BOMB ALL THE NAZI SHRINES many are saying this
>>2637057Sorry Ruzzion only bombs the working class
>>2637057>KILL KILL KILL BOMB BURN DESTROYaverage cucktin poster
Oh yeah, these are the "harden your heart oh putin" guys, aren't they?
>>2637092>nooo think about the rule based world order, don't bomb burn destroy the ruling class, strategic bomb populations so they freeze in the winter insteadRussia is gonna loose this war
>>2636902>I see the russian chauvinists are polishing their knobs over the new wunderwaffenIt's been used before in late 2024, when Biden was president. If therefore it signals an erasure of the whole
Wait for Trump and
Spirit of Anchorage nonsense and a new norm, cool, I'm down, but otherwise, eh.
>>2636896Electrical attacks started in October 2022. Russia is still struggling to de-electrify Ukraine. I see the occasional downtime in Kiev but nothing critical.
>>2636959The only one with a non-cuck mentality is Zelensky, and that's a fact. He uses all the tools available to him and isn't a restraint cuck.
Euros keep cucking with their meaningless post-peace troop deployment instead of troop deployment during the war.
Donald Cuck keeps cucking with his refusal to send certain arms and capabilities.
Christcucktin's problems are well-documented.
Hey guysh, zhish ish le interimperialisht conflict dont ignore me guysh
>>2637055>Its a message to west.The "message" was already sent with an Oreshnik over a year ago. It must've been lost in transit. They don't care what happens to their Nazi puppet state.
What makes oreshnik special?
>>2637057This but in lowercase. Russia is forever talking about a Nazi/terrorist/criminal regime, yet not one member of it has been touched. Hmm…
>>2637131Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong - I've been whining for months about his ugly face on my Very Online feeds, but… I give Agent Z grudging respect as the only one with a non-cuck mentality.
>>2637113lol, maybe NATO secretly deployed some of its best air defenses in Ukraine and saw them fail miserably. Just a hunch, no real evidence I know of.
https://www.rt.com/russia/630749-ukraine-hit-with-oreshnik-in/
>The overnight bombardment was carried out in response to an attempted “terrorist attack by the Kiev regime” on the residence of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Novgorod Region, the ministry said in a statement on Friday.LOL, message sent to the West: "If you target Cuckler again, none of your leaders will be targeted, none of your homelands will be targeted, none of Ukraine's leaders will be targeted, THO we will blow up some gas shack in Ukraine."
The West is SHAKING in its boots LOL
Macron and Meloni gonna string the Westophile along.
Spirit of Rome.
>>2637166So, why did Ukraine go with this attack to UN? Message is WEAK, after all
>>2637254Ukraine requested an emergency UN meeting in 2024. Big deal, Chad Agent Z was undeterred throughout 2025 & so was Merica. They don't care bout no weakie targets.
General sentiment on Telegram: That don't impress me much
They wanted Zelensky and his henchmen popped
That was a big, fat Oreshnikburger
western partner status?
>>2637280cuckwarfare apologists now will say all those guys are nafoids
>>2637390The few diehards remaining are tacitly admitting it was an underwhelming response because they're coping hard about 72D chess moves against… American gas projects lmao:
>And now about the "analysts" and bloggers.
>Most of them are either clinically stupid or deliberately pretending not to understand what happened. They discuss "attacks on Ukraine", "escalation" and "politics", because admitting the reality means admitting that the American gas project has failed, not some abstract "energy".
>So the whining about "symbolism", "inefficiency" and "nothing has changed" begins. This is a lie. Everything has changed. Without the UGS, the "north south" corridor is dead. Without it, American LNG remains expensive, fragmented and unable to replace Russian gas in the necessary volumes >>2637414>if you move goalposts 100 times, you score a win heh heh
>>2637110>The only one with a non-cuck mentality is ZelenskyYou're retarded.
>>2637432you have no self-control
>>2637438God made you wrong as a joke.
Reminder that this is a Marxist board and retarded Godcucks should rope themselves.
>>2637281Donald Cuck should send Ukraine the Tomacucks and whatever else it wants short of nukes. My expectation is that Christcucktin becomes paralyzed and unable to make the hard calls.
is putin serious about his Christianity?
>>2636208Communism has failed, no turning back, only pure negation
>>2637554He seems to believe in afterlife.
>>2637722He used one in 2024, Las FARC. So what
I watched putin's address about the oreshniks and he seems very very angry.
>>2638081he must have now accepted that Anchorage (and it's Spirit) were a sham.
>>2637779boy, I have you myself living rent-free in your head.
>>2638227Babe, you're the only one in this general who calls Vlad the Chad 'cookteen' when you're mad about cuck posting.
>>2638081kek of course he's angry seeing the West brush off his MESSAGE and continue doing what it's been doing…. he's a targetlet who throws big weapons at weenie targets in Ukraine…. why would the West worry about that? They are safe….. even Budanov is safe with his comfy green sweater
>>2638174Spirit of Anchorage was worse than Ghost of Kiev. Ghost of Kiev motivated Ukros for a few days to do more. Spirit of Anchorage motivated Cucktin for months to do less.
>mad that his nato shilling is obvious
I invite Las FARC to state that
>>2637722 wasn't his post. Would make things much easier to do the needful, that I can tell you. Again, as with the deleted post, think very carefully.
>>2638506At this point, because you so clearly wish to be recognised ITT, you should probably just pick a flag.
>>2638541The flag is indeed a handy tool for those who wish to be recognized
>>2638559Yeah but not having a flag is even handier for someone who wants to spend years profiling a handful of posters, dating their entry into the thread, psychoanalysing them, trying to guess when they're posting flagless, building up a repertoire of any times they misspoke, changed their minds or got something wrong, but then avoid confronting the fact that all makes you so much more invested in the politics of
a thread even than flagfags who, at least speaking for myself, is doing it as a favour to those who do not like my opinions and can see that the thread on certain days is me by about 80% volume.
That is a favour that is appreciated and demanded I continue with when the Champagne Socialism flag wasn't available.
You very clearly want to be recognised ITT, but you're scared of the very same thing you're trying to convey, that if you "demand attention" with a flag then attention is what you shall receive. But this is a false premise, there's only so many people in the world who are autistic enough to keep that up for years and none of those who can prove to themselves that's not simply jealousy caused by fear of recognition.
>>2638575I read all that and will ponder it
That is to say, you want the recognition and the ability to then disappear back into anonymity when you've embarrassed yourself, which is often.
>>2638577Oh but you will though, because what if there's something juicy hidden within that maybe 5 sentences that might come in use, a few years from now.
>>2638582No idea what you're sperging about but I will try to be a nicer monster under the bed if it brings harmony
>>2638586>monster under the bedVery tragic interpretation of yourself
>>2637260I've always wanted to do boxing, but I don't want to risk the (extra) brain damage.
>>2636029The problem is that the people who wage war on Russia couldn't care less about what happens to Ukraine. They were pretty resigned to losing it at the start. Any damage that is done to Ukraine is damage that is done to Russian foundations of power (demographics, industry, infrastructure). Having it become a lifeless wasteland is a pretty sweet deal to westoids because it denies Russia tens of millions of people in the future, especially now that they are slowly ramping up talk of bringing the USSR back together. This war is just Russia hitting itself.
>but delusional nafoids said crimean beach partyWho cares, they are a lolcow-level community
>but european media said ukraine is evropaEuropeans know they are lying
>you are a nafoidNafoids are the ones saying that Russians and Ukrainians are one people, I guess.
The most common sentiment among Russians by far is that this is just a terrible situation that should never have happened in the first place, but now that it has, there is no other way but violence. But the fact that so many innocent people die while epsteins of the world get sweet talk, flowers and lavish meals with Russian billionaires understandably doesn't sit well with most people who know that much.
>>2638621 (me)
Most cucktin posters here are of course malicious and bad faith actors who never ever ever propose anything other than the most vague allusions to communism imaginable, if even that. The influx of people we saw since the new year is most likely half /k/opers and adjacent westoid "leftists", which is to say, people who are deeply unserious and very deeply uncritical of authority and especially hegemony. The other half is MIGA /pol/tards who are looking for a rare opportinity to troll people these days. But again, there should be an awareness that these silly internet feuds are not important and should never be discussed in the same breath as millions of people dying in real life.
Even meathead Scott Ritter is melting down about Putin's fascination with oligarch bundler Kirill Dmitriev now and urging Putin to shut him the fuck down. Bless his heart LOL, he's SO close to the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O49reYeJRw>>2638650 (I)
The whole video is basically Ritter calling Putin a naive cuck (the signal being that Ritter spent years saying otherwise). The Kirill parts:
>But then Kirill Dmitriev came in and I'm not saying the man is the fifth column. Uh but he is he's a he's a he's a Goldman20:28 Sachs banker who runs the sovereign wealth fund of Russia. Uh a wealth fund that uh depends upon western economic
20:36 methodologies uh to thrive. Um that Putin should have shut it down and turned it over to a Russian and said run
20:42 it Russian style. We don't want Goldman Sachs bankers anymore. I'm sorry Kirill. Here's your pension. Go pound sand. But
20:49 instead, Kirill came in and said, "Hey, we can work with the West here. Why
20:55 don't we offer them, you know, these economic relationships, exploitation of the Arctic, helping us with oil, uh,
21:03 exploitation in the in the north, u you know, the rare earth minerals, all these things we can do, you know, once
21:09 sanctions are lifted, you know, we're cut a deal in in Ukraine, but the sanctions will be be great." And then he
21:15 started working with Steve Witkoff who is Donald Trump's boy, not a diplomacy guy, an economic guy. But Trump never
21:24 ever ever wanted to do any of the things Kirill Dmitriev wants. He's not serious about it. The Russians have committees
21:30 and organizations that get together and they have plans. The United States has squat. They have Witkoff and Jared
21:37 Kushner, a Zionist who wants to, you know, turn Gaza into a Mediterranean
21:42 vacation spot. That's the depth of his analysis. Meeting with — talking
21:47 pie in the sky crap. And the problem is this gets published
21:53 in Russia and then Russian political and economic elites go we we want that. We
21:59 we can make money off of this. This would be a good thing. And they start putting pressure on Vladimir Putin
22:06 to to make good with the West. No, you had a shield, a sanctioned shield. Never ever deal with the West, Vladimir Putin.
22:13 Never. Not now. Not Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a man who lacks honor. No deal
22:19 with Donald Trump will ever be manifested the way you think it will be
Vladimir Putin needs to just shut Kirill Dmitriev
23:08 down now. Stop it and tell everybody in Russia, don't even think about economic
23:15 relations with the West. That isn't going to happen ever. And if you want it to happen, get the hell out of the
23:21 country. Leave now. Leave your money here, but get out of here. I'm not dealing with it. Shut it down now.
23:28 Because if you don't, the United States will find a way. The CIA will always find a way.
23:35 to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of people who are looking for a better way of
23:41 life, the quick way out, the the the path to riches. Um, and when that
23:47 happens, there will be opposition in Russia. And, you know, I'm not saying
23:52 the Russian government can't control it, but why do you want to open the door to this crap? Shut it down now. Uh, but
24:00 they're they're they haven't. Um, and it's a sign of I don't want to say weakness, but it's it's um it it's it's
24:09 it's a sign of bad thinking. Vladimir Putin is getting bad advice from people. If anybody's telling Vladimir Putin that
24:15 there's a potential for the the spirit of Alaska to manifest itself, there is no potential for the spirit of Alaska.
24:23 The spirit of Alaska was always a fraud. Never forget this.
26:01 it's based on reality. He deals with massive movements of money that enrich select elites. And that's what he's
26:07 done. He created the potential for certain elites in Russia to make a whole bunch of money. And we're talking about
26:14 governors. We're talking about, you know, heads of cities, heads of corporations. All these people are
26:19 lining up to play this game. And these are people who have political power. And now they're disappointed because the
26:26 trillions of dollars they thought they were going to make isn't going to be made. And Dmitriev is left holding an
26:32 empty bag. But so too is Vladimir Putin. Shut it down now. President Putin, shut it down now. There is no spirit of
26:40 Alaska. Never was. It was always a scam and you're being scammed right now.
Spirit of Anchorage bros…….
>>2638670I'm afraid to say, you care a lot more about what Ritter has to say than I do.
Putin has to de-leg Zelensky if he wants the West to take Russia seriously again. This is much better than killing the guy. If Putin is really hoping for a rapprochement via Trump, then he has to understand Trump's mentality. Trump thinks Putin is a paper tiger because he's letting Zelensky walk around freely. Trump is an assassination/kidnapping kinda guy.
Oreshniks at gas storage… not happening, bros, not happening.
>>2638671u jelly
at best a two-digit audience for ur cope lol
Russia is not the Soviet Union
They claim it's an inter-imperialist war the ultimate goal of which isn't a mere 'strategic' victory but a class war against the international proletariat. Every Ukrainian hospital bombed and Russian prole bled out is one step to reverse the crisis of overproduction, to distract from the enemy at home, to prolong war is to prolong the prevailing social order.
They sound convincing ngl…
>historically illiterate bait thread number 120981234987123
>soviet union: population 170 million
>nazi germany + Occupied territories: population 150 million
>russia: population 150 million
>EU/NATO: population 500 million+
>>2638700>24 February 2022 – presentThe war started in 2014 with invasion of Crimea.
>>2637173evacuate the cities?
>>2638725Oh so thats the cope pretending that russia is fighting the entirety of natos armed forces in ukraine well lets see the numbers to see if thats true:
>Nato: 11,500 tanks>Ukraine 1000 ~ tanks>russia 5750 ~ tanks>Nato 90 000 Infantry fighting vehicles/ armored personell carriers>Ukraine 300 Infantry fighting vehicles/ armored personel carriers>Russia 26 000 Infantry fighting vehicles/ armored personell carriers>Nato 10 000 artillery pieces >ukraine 1600 artillery pieces >russia 4700 artillery pieces>Nato 3300 aircraft>Ukraine 207 aircraft>russia 4400 aircraft>nato 3.3 million soldiers>ukraine 900 000 soldiers>Russia 1 500 000 soldiers >>2638683Of those, the number of them who aren't seething at me could be counted on one hand no doubt, popularity isn't what I'm seeking.
>>2638745go back to larping as anime girl hitler in your modded Hearts of Iron you imbecile
>>2638746so single-digit audience huh
no wonder ur hating on ritter
>>2638757No thanks im not russian.
>>2638729Those are two different wars in a continuing conflict, the scale of conflict was very different between the Donbass war and the current war. (Same for Palestine, 2023 was the beggening of a new war in Gaza, but there had been some before and the conflict predates it)
>>2638729That makes russia look even more pathetic.
>>2638745>Most cucktin posters here are of course malicious and bad faith actors Funny because based on the track record of Cucktin boosters (Champ and IntBrig, for instance) it's usually the case that the Cucktin posters were proposing actual solutions (example: hitting the power grid) that were pooh-poohed and mocked and dismissed for months and years until the Russian government began to do such a thing, and then the Cucktin defenders memory-holded it and pretended they supported it all along. The only people acting in bad faith are those who still defend Putin.
>>2638923>that were pooh-poohed and mocked and dismissed for months and years The problem is you interpreting the analysis for why Russia chose or did not chose to take an act as support. I actually still don't think energy infrastructure strikes in Ukraine achieve anything with Ukraine itself.
>>2638725>>2638745>lend-lease: $250 billion>marshall plan: $200 billion>aid to Ukraine: at least $350 billionWhy is NAFO so weak?
>>2638923Heheh, Tank Anon had moralizing arguments for months about the electrical grid until Surovikin started doing it around October 2022. Suddenly he was silent about it.
You've literally hit the nail on the head: they naysay something until Cuckler actually does it. Then it's fine with them. Mental weakies.
Imagine being salty about Scott Ritter. That's insecure af lmao.
>>2638933Two time pedophile Scott Ritter*
>>2638934Minor details. His crime was calling Putin naive.
>>2638938His crime was trying to fuck children
>>2638941That's what makes normal people salty. What makes the fanatics salty is that he called Putin naive.
Ritter is almost there, but he's doing something similar to what MAGA idiots do: blame the advisors instead of Trump. Kirill Dmitriev is there because Putin wants him there. Almost everything about the decision-making in this war can be explained by prioritizing oligarchic interests over maximalist military victory.
>>2638927Uh, something something inflation?
>>2638949that's adjusted for inflation
Incidentally, Kirill Dmitriev is on X responding positively to the Macron/Meloni call for dialogue with Russia. He's going to fall for it again and cuck Russia through 2026 with the Spirit of Rome.
>>2638745Russian dead: 250,000+
NATO dead: < 250
>>26387001. russia is not the ussr
2. most of the western powers were helping the ussr, now they're all helping ukraine. ukraine would have lost a long time ago without them, but it also would have retained more territory, suffered much less destruction and loss of life and been much better off.
3. different types of conflict. smo vs all-out war. russia's goal was a political solution not a rapid conquest of all ukrainian territory. russia would prefer not to just destroy ukraine and raze all its cities to the ground, but the west seems intent on making that impossible to avoid.
4. russia chose an attrition strategy that only slowly bears fruit, which it is doing.
5. technology. drone saturation makes big advances very difficult and costly so wars move slowly.
6. The USA was fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan longer than Russia has in Ukraine.
7. Ukraine is being defeated through attrition. its defeat is inevitable. timeline less important so russia has been willing to wait.
>>2638729>invasion of Crimeafictitious event that never happened. it started with a western-orchestrated coup like they're trying (and failing) to do in Iran rn.
>>2638968>russia has outgrown the ussrhard disagree
>>2638976The West cares about Ukraine even less than we do. You know that. It's just their disposable meat.
>>2638982Sorta sounds like
>boring we know all about US imperialism, blah blah stop preaching to the choir >>2638984>minimizing US imperialismretard
>>2638968The US mogged the guys in charge of Afghanistan and Iraq in a few months and spent most of their time there in low to mid intensity counter insurgency ops. Russia failed to do that and the attrition strategy is a last resort that is costing them much more.
>>2638995US losses for the decade were around 4,500. Mostly because the US is a control freak and wasn't going to sit around letting Iraq be armed.
Let's see Paul Allen's losses…
>>2638987it's openly throwing it away to make a point about the challenger, via claiming their efforts
against US imperialism are worthless because the proxy is just meat at NATO's disposal.
Part of the difference as well is that Dubya Bush, though being dumb enough to be an unironic Christian, didn't interfere with the military and order the goodwill retreat.
>>2639008>minimizing US imperialism to win the Internetdon't care, radlib
PSA: No one is fooled by talking about the Ukrainians cruelly when making a point that Russia is cucked against based US/NATO, you should care about the US/NATO expending of Ukrainians more than how that makes Russia look because of how slow expending them is taking.
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
<Well who gives a shit about US proxies they're just meat
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
>cucked
Obviously not the correct point to be making, is it?
>>2639022Now I'm even more confused.
>>2639024Stick to peppa pig then
Fire-emergency PSA: If you see it, take the one from there and put it inside the other one until it stops, then tell everyone to go to where they saw the first person standing before they left it behind, but make sure they don't open the one that feels like the other one unless it isn't.
>>2638457>implying it can't be another perso.oh boy, you'll have fun reading a linguistics book.
>>2639078When you consider how much of "late-state capitalism" has been blamed on Russia within the west, plenty believe that's a worthwhile expenditure
>>2639081>>2639081cookteen posters in the west, are basically projecting, huh.
they get to get cucked by the most insane plutocracy that has been transferring resources endlessly, derived from their own labor wealth, to the pocket of… *check notes* people who love to shit on toilets made out gold.
>>2637722>>2639076>>2639108>cookteen posters in the west, areErroneous comma for a conjunction that doesn't introduce an independent clause. I did indeed have fun reading the book.
>>2637722>use a hazelnutsYikes. What a coincidence that we have two mouth-breathers all of a sudden.
>>2639120>>2639117>>2639126>English isn't your first language, that makes you a mouth-breatherI mean at least
try to pretend to not be simping for an imperialist bloc
>>2638575>>2639130>But this is a false premise, there's only so many people Comma splice.
Correct agreement is 'there are only so many people'.
>Guise I am do against US imperialism, but, if English is your second language and you make ANY mistakes I will call it out in my seething against critics of US imperialism
>>2639126>imbbbbbblying it isn't>caring too much about grammar.aren't you the dense tard who can't allow people writing and communicate in whatever way they dim appropriately?
boyo, you'll get hysteric reading linguistics books, better not to, or else you'll get an angry heart attack.
here, a vidrel related to the thread to stay on topic.
>>2639137Speaking a second language would be considered pretty educated in most people's books, what is your native language?
>>2639140What's your excuse?
>>2639140and actually studying two more languages in the process. Chinese and Russian.
>>2639143linguistics laugh at your grammar obsession. they'll tell you: that's how the languages enrich themselves, by avoiding normativity.
>>2639148>linguistics laugh Linguists.
>>2639145English is my native language and you as a fellow English speaker understand my posts, so I don't have to care about grammar beyond that.
So, I'll ask again, what is your native language?
>>2639151yup. :D you got the gist of it.
>>2639155>"cookteen">same broken English>same subpixel rendering>same device ambience correction (1 in 2^16 = 1 in 65,535)It's just a coincidence. Good luck.
>>2639160>1 in 2^161 in 2^16 - 1
>>2639154You're not answering the question, where are you from, what is your native language?
Gosh darn this guy is a coward
>>2639167>you must submit to the interrogation of the NAFO posse after you expose their bad-faith samefagging!lelele
>>2639175Answer the question, what is your native language? I assume it's English since you're such a stickler on English grammar
>>2639176I ask the questions. You NAFO guys can continue saying the SMO was illegal under UNSC/UN laws, and you can continue samefagging as manchildren to call Putin a cuck.
>>2639178>I ask the questions. Cringe
>>2639160I'd say yes, I have good luck, someone else uses cookteen besides me, and you got angry about that. Imagine this comrade
>>2637722 does it again and again and again, to spite you.
that's why you have to keep your autism score hidden, off the public eye.
>>2639182It must make you seethe when you see that NATO doesn't have the nerve to attack "cookteen" directly. If he's a cuck, what is NATO?
>>2639187FARC gave a truism, that the invasion of Ukraine wasn't considered legal by UN convention because they didn't see Ukraine trying to ban Russian language under bombs and bullets as reasonable cause for invasion, because why would they?
For days now you have been trying to frame the recognition of that as a pro-NATO stance, now what is your native language and where are you from?
>>2634956>the US/NATO keeps cucking the cucktinists because they're thinkingSee, I can CTRL+F and see you guys saying the same thing, but like all NAFO bots, you're unwilling to answer the question: If NATO is cucking us Putin supporters, why is NATO too scared to attack Russia directly?
>>2639197Why won't you answer the question of what your native language is? Why do you need to distract with an attempt with "no u"?
>>2639187>It must make you seethe when you see that NATO doesn't have the nerve to attack "cookteen" directlynato attacks Russia directly. ukraine could never do what they've been doing so far for so long without any external help.
>If he's a cuck, what is NATO?none of them are cucks, except the people living in nato who, despite the blatant wealth transfer to weapon porkies, haven't raised against two times the marshall plan; a plan that people protested (for different reasons, but protested it, nonetheless).
now, mfw with all those syllogism at once.
>>2639192>the invasion of Ukraine wasn't considered legal by UN convention Now you're pretending that you guys said it was some consensus thing. No, you or at least your friend there said the SMO violates UN laws, and it does not.
>>2639203>No, youThis is really pathetic, just say what your native language is
>>2639202>nato attacks Russia directly. Nah, NATO cowardly hides behind Ukraine. Looks like cucked behavior to me. Maybe if you call Putin "cookteen" 100 more times and whine about the so-called illegal SMO, you can save NATO's dignity.
>>2639208What is your native language?
>>2635956Here is the post in which the NAFO poster says that the SMO violates UN laws.
>>2639220
>liberal Wikipedia slop
The SMO did not violate international law.
Again frens and family, the UN makes its own rules about what is legal even if it breaks their own prior consensuses
>The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine violated international law (including the Charter of the United Nations).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_UkraineNow, answer the question of what your native language is and then get the fuck over your fake gotcha
>>2639222Why won't you tell us what your native language is? You know the mods can't correct you, right?
>NAFO poster says that the SMO violates UN laws.
>The SMO did not violate international law.
There we go
>>2639223Refer to
>>2639222, NAFO bot.
>>2639229Okay "suspiciously tight lipped about their native language despite bringing language in to this" anon, then confront
>>2639228 >>2639233The SMO did not violate UN laws, which are the international laws under discussion, no matter how much you two NAFO bots insist it did, with support from. . . Wikipedia stenography of NATO propaganda lmao.
I reckon you're scared that just admitting you're an English speaker will dox you.
>>2639236The point being made was that Russia is hyper-legal
Again context isn't lost because a shitposter wants it to be
>>2639246>muh contextThe two of you have said that the SMO violates UN laws. It does not. NATO propaganda says it does because NATO propaganda is fact-averse and ignores pre-2022 reporting/findings.
>>2639251>muh contextwell a hatred of context says it all, doesn't it?
>The two of you have said that the SMO violates UN laws.I said they'd call it illegal regardless of convention and farc was making a point that claiming Russia is "hyper-legal" is dumb.
What is your native language?
Trump is turning into a NAFOtard
This general has become Bizarro World
I'm questioning everything I thought I knew about it :>
>>2639256I know, what exactly is anon's native language? I suspect we will never know, despite him bringing language in this. He's just that scared of being recognised despite his desire to be so.
>>2639253The claim is right there:
>>2635956>>Did you say that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws?>pf, it did [violate UNSC/UN laws]You and your friend claimed the SMO violated UN laws. It did not. Sure, NATO says it did, but I don't care what NATO says - I care what the law says.
>>2639263The "hyper-legalist" Russia invaded Ukraine despite a lack of UN approval and NATO threats, now what is your native language?
>>2639265>more deflection, hyper schmyperThat tells me that your NAFO legal case is weak and that Russia's legal case is strong. The SMO did not violate UN laws. End of story.
>>2639265Russia formulated a legal case for the SMO and the basis was collective self defense under Article 51 of the UN Charter due to ongoing and escalating Ukrainian attacks on DPR/LPR in violation of UNSC Resolution 2202. Collective self defense does not require UN approval and NATO threats are irrelevant.
You can disagree with the argument, but they did formulate a legalist case.
>>2639268Russia wasn't afraid of anyone saying they broke the law when they invaded, what is your native language?
>>2639271Nevertheless, Russia wasn't afraid of anyone saying they broke the law when they invaded, what is your native language?
>>2639271Yes, but NAFO blockheads take NATO denials of reality as meaningful.
>>2639275What is your native language?
>>2639273>russia wasn't afraid of anyone saying they broke the law when they invaded, so they broke the lawlolwut
>>2639281>lolwutWhat native language is that from?
Mask-off moment. Guess the historian autist wasn't crashing out.
>>2639273being legalist doesn't mean you'll never do anything your enemies might call illegal. it means you go to great lengths to follow law as you understand and tick all the boxes. Then if someone claims you're breaking the law you have the argument and the receipts ready to defend yourself.
If the mods think I'm spamming and shitposting when it comes to demanding many, many anons they give up their native language where one made it a point ITT, ban me.
>>2639291Yeah, right, that's the problem, and not your NAFO clown assertion that the SMO was illegal under UN law. Russia did not violate UN law.
>>2639288>you'll never do anything your enemies might call illegal.Ah like noook lvov
>>2639294You did bring English grammar into it when we have multinational posters ITT, what is your native language?
>>2639288Also downgrading "hyper-leagalist" to merely "legalist" is pathetic, what is your native language?
>>2639288I'm amazed that all it took for the NAFO bots to out themselves was to call Russia's SMO legal. Since it enrages them so much: Russia did not violate UN law.
>>2639301What is your native language? Mine is English because I'm British, Ushanka is Russian, FARC is from a Spanish speaking language?
How is your Spanish and Russian?
>>2639303Russia did not violate UN law. See
>>2639263.
>>2639307FARC argued they're not hyper-legalist, what is your native language?
>>2639309Russia did not violate UN law. See
>>2639263 for the actual claim made.
>>2639315>The SMO did not violate international law.<The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine violated international law (including the Charter of the United Nations).The point being made in claiming that Russia is "hyper-legalist" is that they were too scared as cucktinists to oppose the west diplomatically, the point that was made was the invasion of Ukraine was against what the West/UN/US/NATO *themselves* considered legal and that's definitely the groups that cucktinists claim Russia are trying to appease.
You don't have a gotcha against farc, you've got a gotcha against yourself for being a grammar nazi. Now at long last, what is your native language?
>>2639366Russia did not violate UN law, contrary to the claim in
>>2635956:
>>Did you say that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws?>pf, it did [violate UNSC/UN laws] >>2639379But the UN claims they broke the law, as do all of Russia's enemies regardless of all laws, convention and common sense. Russia aren't hyper-legalist. What is your native language?
>>2639388>But the UN claims they broke the lawThe question is not whether certain members of the UN claimed that Russia broke UN law but whether Russia actually did break UN law. Russia did not break UN law.
>>2639388UN was created by 4 (later 5) strongest nations in the world for the explicit purpose of preventing those nations from going to war with each other through the use of veto power that made those 5 countries impenetrable to UN actions. Legally speaking, UN cannot judge countries with veto powers.
>>2639400>>2639407The claim made was Russia are cucks because they're "hyper-legalists", as in they don't want to do the ball-on-the-table stuff the outlaws in the US do (that coincidentally is never discussed negatively ITT).
The contradiction is that Russia invaded Ukraine, regardless of whether the UN and the other powers that get to decide international law thought it was legal. Your gotcha against farc depends on the UN and other arbiters of international law disagree with him. They don't. So, you should probably be taking that to New York City where the HQ of the UN is, rather than using it to avoid telling us what your native language is.
>>2639426Please refer to the claim made in
>>2635956:
>>Did you say that the SMO violates UNSC/UN laws?>pf, it did [violate UNSC/UN laws]This claim was wrong. Russia did not violate UN law.
>>2639429I'm arguing against the claim that Russia is "hyper-legalist", what is your native language?
>>2639437If you accept that Russia did not violate UN law, then there is no disagreement.
>>2639443I don't think Russia is "hyper-legalist", what is your native language?
erm acktually it was america violating international law by not honoring their commitments in the budapest memorandum which bound them to put troops on the ground defending ukraine sooo
>>2639450Cool, what is your native language?
>>2639445I will assume you accept that Russia did not violate UN law.
>>2639454What can I assume your native language to be?
>>2639453Is there a reason you have to spam this and annoy everyone else reading the thread?
>>2639458Yes, because anon made a point about English grammar, so what is your native language?
Since there is no answer to that question, I'll assume it's a native English speaker talking down to FARC for being a native Spanish speaker
>>2639450>erm acktually it was america violating international law This.
>Shitposting argumentative twattery ends at 600
I know their game
>>2639549Stop spamming other people please.
>>2639559Not when they make it personal, I go rambo then
>>2639549you're still butthurt your falseflagging was discovered?
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