I’m gonna grease up my nude body and go on a slip n slide to hell
>>2638277>hey soFuck off.
>>2638277>>2638277Auto correct she meant pretty based
Fizzle gang wins again
>>2638283reminds me of the old video of reagan giving a speech and the CEO of merril lynch leaning in and telling him "speed it up" in a way that can be heard over the microphone
>>2638287
Brother what did she do
>>2638277fabricated background: working class latina "bartender" from NYC rises to stardom in the democratic party as a "socialist" outsider
reality:
>55,000/yr tuition at boston U>international relations major>interned for ted kennedy>did USAID work in africa>fucked around with israeli venture capitalists>got a "job" as a bartender just before running to give herself a working class appearance similar to platner distancing himself from his past before running >>2638297
>Acting smug that you never liked them isn't gonna win over
win who over? Petty bourgeois imbeciles? what will win them over is their proletarianization and immiseration through the collapse of their nation.
>>2638277>Hey soim so tired of the millennial unc zeitgeist
>>2638301Its crazy how this news would hurt her if the media talked about it but its Israel so they can't lol
>>2638313
>Socialism is not a religion dude
i know DUDERINO, you were the one suggesting "winning over" converts with "appropriate language" while I was pointing out class struggle. fucking liberal.
>>2638244>because you need to use the bourgeoise tools against them.Even if cpusa strategy of voting democrat were executed so perfectly that no republican were ever elected again, it would still take six years to vote fascists out of congress. This is without considering the rigging and corruption.
>>2638244>you need to use the bourgeoise tools against themanother fucking retard
reformism is fucking built into electoralism and theres a big fucking reason why the poorer you are the less likely you are to vote (hint: reform tends to help the middle classes more than the immiserated), actually learn how the world works before spouting jackassery
>>2638317vanguard parties win again
>>2638326you'd think after 100 years of trying they'd figure it out.
>>2638261Imperialism is le good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWY3-lx_mwProtest at hotel in Minneapolis quartering the ICE goons dispatched by Trump to murder the residents of Minneapolis.
You do need to convince people with socialist arguments, those people being the proletariat, otherwise they fall for social democratic and fascist schemes that lie to them about class mobility.
>>2638340If you’re bourgeois and above and on the winning side it is
We have a
>zog
Zionist occupied goverment
>pog
Pedofile occupied govement
>tog
Tech bro occupied government
>mog
Miami gusano occupied government
>cog
Chud occupied government
>micog
Military industrial complex occupied goverment
>rog
Rapist occupied goverment
>gog
Grifter occupied goverment
>>2638340>>2638350Imperialism is materially and historically progressive. It integrates the world economies into one system, molds workers into a single mass and heightens class conflict.
>>2638357National liberation was reactionary and lenin was wrong?
How many of yall actually watch reactionary media on any regular basis?
>90% of Fox News et al: the godless commies are coming for us and will destroy us all unless we (implicit) kill them
>90% of leftist discussion: this other flavor of leftist is doing it wrong
the level of urgency in the rhetoric is not matched on both sides
>>2638368Does metal music count?
>>2638260
koseki biboo what are you doing here
>>2638357Mods ban this leftcoomer
>>2638357Further socializes le prodoocteeon and leys le foundaateeon of le fuhtuhre sociolist soucayeeteeh.
>>2638362Lenin was wrong about the national question and the USSR no longer exists because of it. Most national liberation movements were capitalist but only pretended to be "socialist" to get USSR and Chinese gibs. Nationalism was fine to use for propaganda in the early 20th century but outlived it's usefulness by the 50s.
>>2638402>Lets divide the working class into billions of micro-ethnicities. We need a billion languages and cultures to make it impossible for them to coordinate. >>2638357>Imperialism is materially and historically progressive. at a certain point maybe it was
>. It integrates the world economies into one system, molds workers into a single mass and heightens class conflict.does it still do this? or has it created a global caste system where the workers have less in common than ever because you have some countries where children mine minerals with zero safety standards and you have other countries with air conditioned service sector jobs?
>>2638362>National liberation was reactionaryno
>and lenin was wrong?no. and last time I brought up Lenin's/Stalin's support for national liberation, I was inundated with quotes from Marx/Engels supporting, for example, America annexing Canada/Mexico, or the "fact" that "Lenin's ideas led to" Ukraine and Israel. But Lenin denounced Zionism as essentially reactionary as early as 1903, and Ukraine wouldn't have ever become a problem if it had remained an SSR. The cope-counter to this of course is that "nationalism destroyed the USSR." No. Revisionism in the CPSU destroyed it. the constituent nations wanted to remain in the USSR. It was actually a rejection of the national general will of each of the constituent nations which led to the illegal dissolution. Fuck Yakoklev and Gorbachev.
>>2638408>Lets divide the working class into billions of micro-ethnicities. We need a billion languages and cultures to make it impossible for them to coordinate. Gunther Fehlinger Thought
The paradox of internationalism is you need national liberation, i.e. respect for national sovereignty as its basis in order to encourage the coordination and integration of nations into superpowers which overcome their differences and globalize. Another thing that annoys me about discussions of "nationalism" is it gets very reductive because people conflate national liberation of colonized nations with color revolutions that pretend to do that, or the jingoism of the imperial core countries.
The colonized and previously colonized nations need to have sovereignty over their colonizers and ex colonizers for at least 100 years
>>2638396This is genuinely so weird. After Kirk’s neck did that they were raging about their 2nd grade teachers and trying to get them fired too.
That woman’s expression isn’t even particularly interesting either, but that’s not the point.
I genuinely can’t get into this mindset. Cue our nazi podcaster smugly telling me I don’t understand the right wing “theory of mind.” Genuinely no, I cannot because I don’t want to kill my teacher.
>>2638357Labor aristocrats in the west and nike shoe factory african kids are totally one mass of workers, dude.
>>2638412>Another thing that annoys me about discussions of "nationalism" is it gets very reductive because people conflate national liberation of colonized nations with color revolutions that pretend to do that, or the jingoism of the imperial core countries.Ahh maoist brain worms that have infected the western left, natlib has ceased to be progressive for 40-50 years and most regimes or insurgent groups identified as doing it nowadays are just propped up by rival imperialisms
>>2638409>Ukraine wouldn't have ever become a problem if it had remained an SSR.It would have never been a problem if it was never an SSR in the first place.
>Revisionism in the CPSU destroyed it.CPC was more revisionist than the CPSU. But China didn't have a dozens of SSRs with their own national identities to take advantage of weakness so they survived.
>the constituent nations wanted to remain in the USSR.Why were there separate constituent nations in the first place? It could have been one united entity by the 80s if they pushed for it. They didn't even teach all their citizens Russian despite it being legally required by 1938. Fucking pathetic.
>>2638425ok then resolve the paradox i presented rather than just saying "nunna dis matters cuz muh inter imperialisms"
also not all forms of imperialism are equal. idk if even agree for example that the PRC is "imperialist" but let's steelman (opposite of strawman) the leftcom argument and say that it is… chinese imperialism is objectively preferable to burger imperialism for the reasons outlined in pic related.
>what about russian imperialismreminder that the USA couped yanukovych because he chose a russian loan over an EU loan. Why? Because the russian loan was objectively a better deal. had a lower interest rate, and came with better perks.
If the "inter imperialist warfare" thought terminating cliche is true, then you can tell which imperialism is the "lesser evil" pretty easily. America has NATO, 800 military bases, does coups, sanctions, embargoes, piracy, funds terrorists ,etc. America bombs schools and hospitals and factories while China builds schools and hospitals and factories. America de-develops nations and uses its reserve currency hegemony to maintain purchasing power disparities. Chinese imperialism, if truly imperialism, is a historically progressive force, while American imperialism actually prevents the kind of integration the anon claims imperialism carries out.
>>2638430The majority of lazy do nothings don't matter, all you need is a driven minority to take advantage of national identity to hijack the rest. Also focusing just on the USSR is ignoring the problems from nationalism in the Eastern Block. They also should have been formally integrated into one political entity with the USSR. Why were they separate?
>>2638434I'm not claiming its a new idea, all I'm saying is public schooling is almost diametrically opposed to that kind of demeanor
>>2638396It looks like a person existing and yet they seem viscerally mad about that. Interesting
>>2638435Lenin would not have been able to pull off the creation of the USSR in the first place if he didn't respect the national sovereignty of the constituent nations. So calling this a "mistake" because the USSR eventually collapsed (demonstrably due to revisionism in the leadership rather than nationalism in the masses) is to say that it would have been better for the USSR to not exist in the first place.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/dec/15.htm<in their fear of playing into the hands of the bourgeois nationalism of oppressed nations, people play into the hands not merely of the bourgeois but of the reactionary nationalism of the oppressor nation.He's right!!!👆
fizzlin?
>>2638437Are you saying China was magically different or something? They didn't have separate SSRs and have managed to force Mandarin on their citizens. Despite their Maoist lipservice to "national sovereignty" they didn't act like the USSR and succeeded because of it.
>>2638440>Lenin would not have been able to pull off the creation of the USSR in the first placeThat was true. At first. But by the 1950s the situation had changed. By the 1970s the situation had drastically changed. There was no excuse by that point.
>>2638443>That was true. At first. But by the 1950s the situation had changed. By the 1970s the situation had drastically changed. There was no excuse by that point.yeah the situation that changed was the USSR had become revisionist by that point. the USSR was not dissolved by the national sovereignty of the masses in the USSR but by the revisionism of the CPSU leadership, increasingly after stalin's death.
>>2638443China doesn’t force mandarin, they have formal education in tibetan, cantonese, and mongol
>>2638443>Are you saying China was magically different or something? They didn't have separate SSRs and have managed to force Mandarin on their citizens. Despite their Maoist lipservice to "national sovereignty" they didn't act like the USSR and succeeded because of it.not factual
pics related, especially language column
>>2638446throwback to that one nyt article about muh tibetan erasure that used a classroom picture with the tibetan alphabet as a poster on the wall
>>2638444CPC was more revisionist that CPSU. Yet they still control China. Why is that?
>>2638446Bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language_law>>2638450>"autonomous" regions are the same as SSRs >>2638456>CPC was more revisionist that CPSU. by what metric other than "Dengism"?
>language laws wikipedia link<Until recently, even the government-promoted simplified Chinese had at least seven mutually unintelligible dialectsthis seems to be bolstering the other anon's point, not yours
>"autonomous" regions are the same as SSRsno they're not the same as SSRs but they are still a manifestation of the Marxist-Leninist doctrine of respecting national sovereignty.
>>2638452Swapping stds with strangers isn't the same as coordinating revolution. English speaking countries still fuck up coordination because using imperial instead of metric despite speaking the same language. One tiny difference in culture can destroy billions in equipment. Language and culture is far more tricky than some AI translator can handle.
>>2638458>by what metric other than "Dengism"?What metric are you using here? I would say having billionaires is far more revisionist than having some markets to coordinate factory output.
>this seems to be bolstering the other anon's point, not yours.7 closely related languages is still better than 100s in the USSR. And that was before the 2000s after which China actually became a superpower. Not to mention they actively pushing it even further
https://www.rfa.org/english/china/2024/12/12/china-madarin-wider-use/>>but they are still a manifestation of the Marxist-Leninist doctrine of respecting national sovereignty.They don't let them do whatever they want and are under tighter control than SSRs. Again it's all lipservice to placate ethnonationalists like yourself.
>>2638460It's been 25 years not 4. Also ignoring the reality on the ground of Han Chinese domination instead of official laws.
Do you think it would be worth trying to bring up the prairieland texas case to people offline tomorrow?
>>2638469I will need more context before giving you an honest answer
>>2638277>disgustingBourgeois liberals like AOC feel "disgust" when the interracial working class unites denounce fascism from landlords that have historically done the same things in NYC as they do in Palestine. Americans actually do know what its like to live under Zionism. As children they were arrested and surveilled, and subjected to a mass molestation program from Mayor Bloomberg:
https://prospect.org/2020/02/17/bloomberg-minorities-as-criminal-stop-and-frisk/<The CCRB cases I remember the most, and still think about, are these stop-and-frisk cases, and similar ones in which police officers stopped someone, overwhelmingly a young black man in a Brooklyn or Queens neighborhood, on the slimmest pretext. Sometimes, these men were chatting with their friends on the sidewalk, and an officer told them to move along because they were blocking pedestrian traffic, even when that traffic didn’t exist. At other times, the cops stopped and searched men who were standing and chatting too near a car, on the unfounded assumption they might be stealing it.<The worst involved those with kids. Someone on my investigative team had a case once in which a boy, I believe he was 13, was stopped inside his own apartment building and asked for identification. He was on his way to visit a friend in his own building. The stop was an allowed practice. Police officers had permission to patrol inside apartment buildings owned by the New York City Housing Authority, or any other privately owned building where the landlords invited them in. Which made it hard for this kid to simply visit a friend without a run-in with police. I’ve thought about him a lot over the years, and the ways his encounters with abusive authority may have shaped and changed the trajectory of his life.<On other occasions, I visited housing authority buildings and gone to the surveillance rooms that NYPD officers used to monitor residents. There were public spaces in these building complexes, courtyards and dilapidated playgrounds. But if anyone lingered too long, they were shooed away by police. What was the point, then, of the public spaces? What does it mean to have a home where the police can stop you any time?<For thousands of black and Latino New Yorkers, all this led to an oppressive feeling of living in a police state, of being constantly watched. "The worst involved those with kids" Well yeah, it is Jeffrey Epstein's city!
>antisemitichttps://forward.com/opinion/190660/fighting-jewish-slumlords-isnt-anti-semitic/this is a 2014 article btw, before the current stage of, you know…the thing! The political thing which Marxists will ban you for mentioning lol
>>2638471A cop got shot at a tiny protest outside of an ICE facility in northern texas on the 4th of July, now 19 people are getting slapped with terrorism and attempted murder charges. As far as I can gather the shots were either self defense or crossfire. Many of those 19 weren't even present at the protest, in fact one guy got picked up for having zines in the trunk of his car.
I think the people fronting the event I'm going to attend in the afternoon would never bring it up and I'm not going to crash their thing, but I think I should at least try to discuss it with people in the crowd who look amenable to it.
>>2638476Good luck, not sure about the opsec there
>>2638286did she post that herself or did jstreet draft it for her?
>>2638477>it's real!sanders is a fucking useless piece of shit. I swear to god. the dsa and progressive caucus should just dissolve themselves.
It doesn’t matter if Maduro is a dictator, a democrat, or in between, it’s not our business hat happens in Vene, period
>>2638477>I wish American liberals would stop fucking doing this.bUt iF i DoN't dO iT i WoUlD sOunD lIkE oNe Of ThOsE CraZy vIoLeNT AuThoRitAriAn TanKieS
votes to give neo nazis abrams to kill donbass children, salafist monarchs fighter jets to kill yemeni children and Zionist fascists bombs to kill Palestinian children >>2638501>>2638477What I don't get is how libs even in their own worldview just don't point out that the opposition in Venezuela that is even remotely popular and actually elected to the national assembly is calling for Maduro to stand trial in Venezuela. Not only are they your fellow procedural legal opposition party liberals but it allows them to eat there cake and have it too. They get to be anti- Venezuela intervention and anti-Maduro and even try to pull the "well why aren't you listening to Venezuelans" card since they claim Capriles won the 2024 elections in the first place. Even on there own terms It doesn't make sense to me.
this place is sooo cooked
not a single post about the protestors breaking into that hotel that's hiding ICE
>>2638468>ethnonationalists like yourself.oh fuck off. this is like saying that recognizing palestine is "ethnonationalism"
>>2638468the mass tor baiter is slightly more subtle than usual.
>>2638519Why do they still have their Christmas decorations up?
>>2638528It’s a pain in the ass putting them up, even bigger taking them down
>>2638528you should see some motherfuckers leave their shit up until march lol
>>2638528the holiday spirit has been sucked out of america. globalists want you to celebrate mohamadmas instead.
>>2638535why would hamas burn this tree
>>2638536festive yule log
>>2638537with no chestnuts roasting? barbarians
>>2638526China should take over Palestine and run it as an Autonomous Region. Give them all the same rights, teach them Mandarin and work skills so they can be integrated into the world economy. Build some skyscrapers so all the Jews and Palestinians can all live on their magic holy land together.
>>2638260
Is America the developed world?
>>2638389Well, rightoids don't have to combat a shitload of leftoids who larp as "right-wing" all the time. Meanwhile the actual left is cursed with (neo-)liberals/greens, idpol shitlibs, succdems, leftcoms, trots, anarshits of different flavours etc. operating under a "left" label in public but always siding with the worst bourgeois hegemon in geopolitics and fucking with worker's rights harder than conservative center-rightoids when they somehow get into power in bourgeois democracy in national politics.
Rightoids do fight each other all the time as well though. Most wars in history started as rightoids fighting other rightoids over capital/property and/or power.
>>2638578The problem is that Christmas tree farms are pretty harmful to the environment and a big waste of space. However there are farms that exists in backyards for people grabbing a tax break in certain states. I knew a guy that sold trees for 20 dollars and let them grow randomly in his mostly untouched woods. It was nice. I found an old bird's nest in a tree one time.
>>2638579dont tell bro where the political "left" came from.
>>2638579How many buzzwords can I fit in this post?
>>2638587oh my goddd… the murderous rape hogs are also HYPOCRITES
>>2638587>conservatives are apparently supporting the murder of renee goodConservatives and supported the murder of middle eastern civilians over and over and over. You only care about this incident in particular because she was a white first worlder.
>>2638590What butthurt pseudo-left sect do you belong to?
The American government is invincible, omnipresent, and omniscient. Nothing can shake it, nothing can compete with it (besides the private sector), nothing can overthrow it. The US will outlast the universe and the next. It’s an actual, living God, better start killing your first born or your best animal if you know what’s best for you.
>>2638598Got anything with shart, fag, or goon in the name I can use?
>>2638606That’s the real God of this world exercising his will, he is jealous and vengeful
>>2638578real christmas trees have weevils and shit so naturally people became less enamored with having them in their damn living rooms after a while.
not to mention the psycho shit people used to do in the 1800s: Hang fucking CANDLES on a christmas tree in a WOODEN house
>>2638608bugs… lay off the spooks
>>2638618I’m putting all the spooks in my nose and closing it with my finger and snorting, feels fucking good
>>2638616I've never had a weevil in a Christmas tree.
>>2638608the fact that christians worship the devil tells us everything.
they would crucify Christ if he returned.
>>2638625That's because you live in a safe and sanitized corporate world. The Christmas trees from farms that you buy are thoroughly doused in bug spray and flame retardant before you get them.
>>2638636That’s literally every agricultural product
>>2638639I don't think that vegetables and fruits from grocery stores are doused in flame retardant chemicals, but sure.
>>2638579>Most wars in history started as rightoids fighting other rightoids over capital/property and/or power.Ukraine and Russia. But I bet you won't admit that tho.
>>2638640The preservatives are probably as bad as the flame retardant and don’t even mix well with whiskey and egg nog
>>2638645>probablyvibes based argumentation
>preservativesi'm tired of retards confusing GMO with preservatives, or shit like the wax coating on apples
>>2638667vibes are the only real thing in the universe
>>2638277All of this will be swiftly forgotten once
<MIGRANT LIVES MATTER Riots take over, which the establishment is clearly trying to make happen, on both sides. You saw by the quickness of politician's response, immediately jumping in and making the ICE murder into a culture war issue by giving their side a retarded fictional version of events backed only by peer pressure and loyalty. A shared fiction,dogma. The Dems will soon come up with their own, about what ICE is and how this situation is somehow exceptional to the current administration.
You know it's coming. You have seen this same script at least three times in your lifetime. You have seen most scripts to be honest, the culture war favors repetition. It feeds and instills pathology, sickness of the mind, and then provides a balm and outlet.
It is familiar to people now, they will go on the streets and follow the invisible path the superstructure set for them. You can't use the culture war as a runway for politics, it's literally made for the opposite. Whenever a matter threatens to be exploitable it gets made into a culture war battle. But you can make a lot of money and status, so many will pretend otherwise, like every other time.
There will never be anything in America outside its fake culture war, not even climate collapse will break this cycle. You’ll be starving to death and your last words will be about Charlie Kirk and Chapo Trap House.
>>2638603Your choice. Why not go with something well-established though, e.g. "liberal"?
By the way, at least the trots seem to come to senses lately. There's no shit-flinging against MLs and pretty much nothing i have to disagree with on their website right now.
>>2638252PTA clip acknowledged
>>2638587Liberals are apparently supporting the murder of Renee Good; the killing of an innocent citizen by a tyrannical police state, by officers who refuse to identify themselves or show their faces. is this the freedom-loving, small-government crowd, again?
Liberals are also fully behind the zionist tech regime censoring content and arresting people for their criticisms of foreign governments - with JPDON even wanting to make it illegal to deface the amerikkkan flag. this is the end of the first amendment. who is rising up, and who is falling in line?
Liberals, after years of pleading for the unconditional rights of the second amendment, are also seeking to ban transgender people from possessing firearms. who is ripping up the constitution, then?
Over a decade of hysteria around pedophiles involved in a global conspiracy, the evidence is collecting around Orangeman, and suddenly it’s become irrelevant to the very people who pushed for this narrative.
Liberals lack all scientific and material understanding.
you cant have these people in a society based on trust.
>>2638953these statements dont actually translate tho 🤨🥱
>>2638958You sure about that bud
>>2638993Turtle island patriots are in control
>>2639031We still have two more years of Trump humiliating Euros
>>2638953>conservatives>>2638587<liberalsthe bourgeoisie
>>2638509because they don't actually know anything and just march to the tune of their more reactioanary colleageus "sure everything my reactionary colleagues said about mr. maduro is true, but stealing oil is like a hecking bad vibe YO! what kind of example are we setting as the world's daddy!!!"
zohran status?
>>2639087Defending Israel’s right to commit genocide as we speak alongside AOCIA
>>2639087Dropping the ball
protest status?
>>2639092Sounds based as hell
>>2639113Probably gonna turn out like that but the pyramid in the picture is not wrong
tbh there's a historical parallel between america seizing greenland from denmark and america seizing the Philippines from Spain in the leadup to WW1
>>2639102yes and engels was bourgeois, what's your point.
the ;my morality it's the only limit to my power' guy has spoken:
https://time.com/7344931/trump-threatens-to-denaturalize-us-citizens/>U.S President Trump threatens to denaturalize U.S. citizens If they ‘Deserve’ It.>>2639166Been saying this since trump 1 when he floated getting rid of birthright citizenship. Nobody is gonna be allowed to be American if they don’t pay the subscription fee and like boots.
>>2639129Its got pensylvania plates so not mineapolis
>>2639207What's dispatching in America?
>>2639207>>2639207I hope its a rumor but they acted like this in portland 2020
>>2639102all neo-nazis are brown and all maoist-third worldists are white
>>2639102She just wants to get the BBC
>>2639219I assume it's referring to local community patrols. Since law enforcement is on the side of ICE and ICE is an existential threat to everyone a lot of regular people especially in major cities have these ICE watch things where they go around and report where ICE operations are taking place.
>>2639224Difference is Trump was constrained by COVID and the lingering influence of establishment Republicans, so despite his best efforts he was unable to get the military to just open fire on people. Of course now all bets are off
>>2639230Yeah … shits going to get bad before it (if ) gets better
>>2639102>ppw upon hwites NOW!Personal Penis Warmer upon hwites NOW?
Pussy Popper Watcher upon hwites NOW?
>>2639224I'm going to lean on rumor. Something to remember is that everyone has phones on them. If this is happening regularly enough someone would have a video of at least the people standing around in shock or running after the car, something. Everyone knows by now that whipping out your phone is your only merger means of defense against them if they are harassing your neighborhood.
>>2639252There’s still time for every ICE agent to do the honorable thing and kill themselves.
>>2639252>tim walzis this a demonrat pivot to the right?
vice signalling?
>>2639252ICE is not state or local law enforcement though
>>2639136I'm not american, so maybe I'm just clueless but it seems to me like that statement was pretty terrible, from a rhetorical standpoint. It's wishy washy and contains subtle racebait, which makes me confused as to why she even bothered to say anything like that. If you want to highlight conflict between landlords and tenants, talk about the conflict between landlords and tenants, instead of inserting race into your statement, especially without any
class based qualifiers.
It is distracting, and maybe this sort of thing goes over well in NYC, but I don't think it's a good idea if your political goals are socialist. People don't have time to interpret statements like this, and politics especially is a very tribalistic matter. So instead of dividing landlords against tenants or capitalists against workers, she first made these classes obscured by the word "families", did not mention any path to what she would consider collective ownership, what sort of relationship with property she is talking about, and threw in a vague allusion to whites. It sounds like something you would write if you're trying to anger a chud or impress a progressive liberal. I have a counterexample, here's Daniel DeLeon, talking about a race riot:
<A flood of ignorance is pouring out of the papers regarding the slaughter of the Negroes in New Orleans by the mob.
<Various explanations are given, all silly, and many “remedies” are suggested, each one vying with the other in craziness.
<The war in New Orleans is not between black and white. It is a war between workingmen, and the prize they battle for is a “job"; and that job means the same to them as the carcass of the animal, over which two savages fight, means to the savage: life or death.
<When the vulgar editors prate about “racial hate” and ascribe the riots to that, they merely display their crass ignorance.
<We are living in a time when the comforts of life, and all the material wealth needed to bring happiness to every human being, can be produced in abundance. There is no need whatever for one human being to go hungry, homeless or naked. Man’s inventive genius has developed the tool to that point, and guided the natural forces to that degree, that abundance is possible to all.
<But between that abundance and its enjoyment by the children of men an obstacle is interposed. That obstacle is the modern social system, capitalism, and its defenders and beneficiaries are the capitalist class.You can see that in only a few sentences, DeLeon exposed class struggle, the lies of bourgeois media, and a socialist vision for society. Also note that she is in the DSA. Maybe I'm being silly focusing so much on one statement, but rhetoric is important too.
>>2639113It's objectively bettter
>>2639207oh, imperial boomerang moving fast.
>>2639252he was mobilizing the national guard against Minnesotans, not against ICE.
>>2639113Sorry anon this one is a win. The old food pyramid was objectively wrong and designed to make people fat.
>>2639113>not raw meat onlyRFK got science cucked
Of all the things to bitch about and we're bitching about food. And wax on apples.
We should wordfilter “amerikkkan” to “hot white girl cocks”
>>2639298“hwite hwomyn” is funnier
>>2639131you'll get gastrointestinal cancer and gout if you eat that much red meat
>>2639317There’s literally no amount of healthy red meat, it’s like asking if there’s a healthy cigarette or a healthy alcohol
>>2639267In America it all goes back to slavery and segregation that was very historically recent, with some people still alive who remember the latter, so statements like that don't surprise me. Some people take them as bait but I feel like most white people these days don't really get that triggered hearing that they're privileged in an barely-ex-apartheid system. Is it idpol? Yeah. Is it annoying? Yeah. But that's what we get. It will take a long time before it's "behind us" enough to be irrelevant. Even Europe still has Catholic vs. Protestant vs. Orthodox idpol going on, and that's way older beef, so it doesn't surprise me that race-related statements like that make it into burger class struggle. I know that goes against the central anti-idpol thesis of leftypol, but that's just how I understand burgerland.
>>2639321Jayden Scott
400 W John St Bay City, MI 48076.
https://jaydenscott.com/ do the protestors have any demands? do they have any concrete goals they're trying to accomplish?
>>2639318>It's not all that different from the TDS we had to endure for years and years.not a fan of succdem mamdani but TDS was at least based on the fact that trump is a rapist racist billionaire faggot who came down a golden escalator to projecth is own sexual morals onto everyone from mexico as the opening salvo of his gay ass run to be the biggest israeli cocksucking president of all time… "muh TDS" is a thought terminating cliche from his biggest and most uncritical dickriders, ranging from terminally retarded suburnanite petty bourgeois, pigs, troops, and guys who think you can put everything back in the box and RETVRN to 1859
>>2639327no that'll be canada
>>2639318>the fact that he commands so much goodwill from the populationHe doesn't, he is extremely unpopular.
>TWO SCOOPS scandalAnon you really need to achieve true ego death. I'm serious. You are still holding on to your old bad habits because you're afraid of truly changing yourself as a person. Your brain is still rotted out from years of exposure to a total shithole and you're holding onto vestiges of reactionary dogshit for dear life because it's all you have left of "you". You need to finally rip the bandaid off and let it all go.
Please think about what I'm saying and actually try to change yourself.
>>2639336imho the closest to aeTDS was libs basically reinventing the stabbed in the back myth with russiagate. Those perfidious russian saboteurs are behind the decline of the fatherland couldn't be an internal contradiction never that.
>>2639298>We should wordfilter “amerikkkan” toturtle islander
>>2639329they never do. and they won't with liberals leading them.
>>2639345The thing is that Russia has been proven to actually be funding political saboteurs in the US, libs just exaggerated it somewhat and painted Putin as the end-all be-all mastermind. In terms of foreign interference Russia is barely in the top 5.
All the internal contradictions are fake, they’ll never play themselves out or get resolved because that’s not possible, America is a closed loop
>>2639346See that’s accurate but not funny.
>>2639329Expulsion of ICE from major cities and the abolition of ICE as a whole
>>2639345and that was basically a DNC psy op to go after trump for something that couldn't be mirrored back onto them (i.e. basically everything) and also they were butthurt because the ukraine shit was supposed to start under hillary in 2017 and trump delayed it until biden 1. Lindsey Graham was in Ukraine with Amy Klobuchar in December 2016 declarying to the AFU that "2017 will be the year of offense." and Trump fucked that all up for them, hence "Muh Russiagate" but the real scandal is ukrainegate with biden, whose crackhead son literally sat on the board of ukrainian gas firms with multiple do-nothing jobs that he got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for. And nordstream 2 obviously.
also democraps wanted to appear "more patriotic" than rethuglicans for once so they revived "muh cold war" rhetoric even though it makes no sense against the russian federation.
>>2639298>We should wordfilter “amerikkkan” toAustralian
>>2639318>now that it's an actual fire and not just smoke,so many people can't seem to be bothered because they think it's just another TWO SCOOPS scandalif you were old enough you'd just realize that demoncraps and rethuglicans are both cultists who think their bourgeois sports team can do no wrong.
Again, we live in a one party state that pretends there’s two parties
>>2639375so simple, yet so genius. good luck getting the idea of "Class dictatorship" across to burgers without them having an aneurysm and acting like dictatorship can only be individualistic
>The Trump administration has held “preliminary discussions” on plans for a potential attack on Iran, The Wall Street Journal reports, after US President Donald Trump’s repeated threats to strike the Islamic Republic should the regime kill protesters — which it is reported to have done.
>Citing unnamed sources, the Journal reports that the discussions have focused on which sites, if any, should be targeted. It says one option on the table is to launch a “large-scale aerial strike” against Iranian military targets.
>>2639375nah, democraps represent the international bourgeoise and republicucks the national american bourgeoise. we lose either way, but porky has a semblance of democracy among themselves exclusively
>>2639264I think their authority to give any kind of order to citizens at threat of immediately lethal force for non-complainance… has a questionable legal basis
>>2639394ppl forget the framers were all romaboos and explicitly designed it in this way based off of Rome having democracy for patricians and no one else.
>>2639318It’s the most open anti-Muslim bigotry I’ve seen since the 2000s. I forgot somehow that this was latent within the U.S. social milieu.
>>2639252What is this guy afraid of? I’m serious what is this insane cowardice and dangerous lying. ICE does not have your safety in mind, they have complete contempt for it and literally want to kill you.
>>2639415>What is this guy afraid of? I’m serious what is this insane cowardice and dangerous lying. ICE does not have your safety in mind, they have complete contempt for it and literally want to kill you.You ought to stop believing that there is a difference among liberal politicians. When the conditions call for fascism, all liberals want it.
>>2639436Cpusa said in party meeting they are sad he is vacating office btw.
>>2639465idgaf about CPUSA because they are irrelevant and weak
>destroy democrats>destroy republicans>destroy pigs>destroy military>destroy bourgeoisie>destroy petty bourgeoisie>destroy succdemsall higher priorities
>>2639473> If you are so shook up from a previous event, you should not have the authority to be able to legally kill peopleI thought we were past talking about "should" in this system.
>>2639473This is a truly insane defense if you think about it for one second. It concedes that he killed an innocent person in a unnecessary confrontation he created, that may well have been out of his authority, and he was unprovoked and absolutely no reasonable person would interpret as self-defense, but it’s okay because he’s an insane violent killer by his nature.
>>2639415>What is this guy afraid of? he is a bourgeois politician. so everyone.
>>2639336TDS was very much a thing during the waste of time that was the first Trump admin and the Biden admin. The actions liberals and the institutions more closely aligned with them took because of it helped radicalize the right further and helped get Trump in the White House again.
TDS is a bit more justified now with insanity and stupidity of the new Trump administration.
>>2639473he said "fucking bitch" after he shot her
he shot because he was pissed off, not because he was scared
but then again, remember the acorn event…?
>>2639495He was just so offended that he was being disrespected and ignored by two women that he reasserted his authority by killing one of them. He wasn’t afraid, he was just angry that a woman talked back to him and so he killed her.
>>2639488infinite patience and empathy for the agents of the state, zero for you. You get summarily executed for losing twitching the wrong muscle in a tense situation. meanwhile if you rape and murder as a rich man or one of their bootlickers you basically at best get a slap on the wrist.
>>2639498>no training awardthey're trained. they're doing their job. their job is to kill you. feature, not bug. liberalism assumes better training = nicer pigs.
>>2639503trvke
they are death squads assigned against the public
>>2639499> he was just angry that a woman talked back to him and so he killed her.but he didn't kill the one who talked smack. he killed the other one. the one who was distracted by the other guy and trying to drive away
>>2639510wait I'm stupid, anon posted it. I thought it was the ICE video without clicking on it.
>>2639498HANDS UP!
HANDS DOWN!
HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK!
*SHOOTS*
oh well…
>>2639473Who cares if he was “traumatized” or not? That’s not the issue. The issue is that ICE exists in the first place, that he wasn’t dragged to death in the first incident, and that he is currently free to kill again NOW. There’s no “should” here, the only “should” that needs to be discussed is what “should” happen to these people. They want to kidnap you, they want to kill you, this is what they’re trained to do, react accordingly.
>>2639501I was thinking the other day about the astonishing sympathy and understanding people I have met on the left have extended towards the Branch Davidians and how much blame they placed on the ATF. Fuck off! It was a messianic cult with an armory in its basement! The RW has mythologized this for decades and commuted the worst terrorism in this countries history out of indignity about it. Totally has changed how I view past discursive attitudes.
>>2639507He didn’t care which one he killed. After watching that bodycam it was obvious to me he was so angry about that one lesbian looking woman getting in his face and telling him he had no right to be there that he popped off and killed someone in a pique of rage and insecurity.
>>2639516if there wasn't a bunch of kids at the Waco compound I would've been fine with a Texas Tiananmen
>>2639520That’s why the RW keeps posting the video (not body cam phone cam sorry.) it’s not because it makes it look like he’s innocent, it’s because you see the lesbian girl’s tone talking to ICE and telling them to fuck off which stirs the same emotions in the MAGA audience as the killer felt, making it justified to them.
Protests are live. Status Coup on the ground in Minneapolis
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/Happenings>>2639473>No one does this. they will be rightfully reprimanded and probably removed from their role at minimumConfucians actually believe this specific nazi will be reprimanded for doing his job legally. The liberals should research how many of the tens of thousands of concentration camp grunts were convicted at nuremberg
>>2639543Pick up that can
>>2639326Also it can reverse very fast. 1964 Civil Rights Act can and is planned to be nullified and the 1965 Voting Rights Act lost all its teeth.
>>2639510>>2639511the 'I'm hit' it's delightful.
>>2639534it really is a race to the bottom when you design your entire worldview around perceiving threats and neutralizing them through pre-emptive aggression. it's supposed to be the superior and strategic way of looking at things, but the moment you have every agent in a system behaving this way it falls apart and self cannibalizes.
>>2639556The black bourgeois in this country aren’t going to take that lying down
I've been on chans for almost 20yrs, and let me tell you, the last time I had such a reading on 4/pol/ was during the last days of Bush Jr. Mind you, this same zeitgeist is taking over right now, even tho we are in merely a year into Trump presidency.
Very interesting phenomena, imo. Back then I was still an ancom (now I'm an ML, ofc) and we had anti-capitalist generals every day on 4/pol/ and then continued to solidify our position by shitting on the newly elected Obama.
I'm just saying we are speedrunning Bush-'Bama right now and it's crazy.
It should be an absolute imperative to revive daily ML-ancom-anti-imperialist posting on 4/pol/ because the MAGA base is in complete disarray.
>inb4
Silence, newfag. Experienced oldfag spoketh.
>>2639565>>2639565I made that thread lol. It's like catnip over there to talk about submitting to authority now
>>2639575Separate zoomers from magaoids & glow.
>>2639562>The black bourgeoisSubmissive and Tech bros are outpacing them.
The Trump administration has held initial discussions on potential strikes against Iranian government targets
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601105197Former Trump White House adviser Steve Bannon is laying the groundwork for a 2028 run for president, two people familiar with his thinking tell Axios.
https://www.axios.com/2026/01/10/steve-bannon-2028-campaign-magaNEW YORK — Nearly 16,000 nurses at some of New York City’s largest private hospitals are gearing up to go on strike Monday.
The fight between the New York State Nurses Association and the Montefiore, Mount Sinai and New York-Presbyterian health systems is nearing a boiling point after months of contract negotiations have yielded little progress on key sticking points, from pay raises and health insurance coverage to financial remedies when units are understaffed
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/10/theyre-ready-for-us-to-walk-nurses-at-top-nyc-hospitals-prep-for-historic-strike-00720761>>2639501surprised a nazi is saying this
John Thune and Donald Trump had a ‘spirited’ conversation over Senate war powers vote
The Senate majority leader signaled a lobbying effort is underway targeting the five Republicans who broke with the president.
McALLEN, Texas — Shortly after five Republican senators broke with Donald Trump and voted Thursday to advance a measure constraining his military options in Venezuela, the president lashed out and called for them to lose their seats.
Before he turned to Truth Social, however, he connected with John Thune and gave him a piece of his mind.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/01/09/congress/john-thune-trump-war-powers-00719369DHS Launches Landmark USCIS Fraud Investigation in Minnesota
https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/dhs-launches-landmark-uscis-fraud-investigation-in-minnesotaWASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services have launched Operation PARRIS in Minnesota, a sweeping initiative reexamining thousands of refugee cases through new background checks and intensive verification of refugee claims. They have now begun referring cases of fraud and other crimes to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
The initial focus is on Minnesota’s 5,600 refugees who have not yet been given lawful permanent resident status (Green Cards). USCIS’ newly established vetting center is leading Operation PARRIS (Post-Admission Refugee Reverification and Integrity Strengthening), with adjudicators conducting thorough background checks, reinterviews, and merit reviews of refugee claims.
“Minnesota is ground zero for the war on fraud,” said a DHS spokesperson. “This operation in Minnesota demonstrates that the Trump administration will not stand idly by as the U.S. immigration system is weaponized by those seeking to defraud the American people. American citizens and the rule of law come first, always.”
Begun in mid-December and now referring cases to ICE, Operation PARRIS is part of a broader strategy to implement enhanced screening standards under Executive Order 14161 and Presidential Proclamation 10949. These directives require federal agencies to identify and implement new vetting enhancements to safeguard the nation from foreign terrorists and other public safety threats.
USCIS’ efforts in Minnesota build on the success of Operation Twin Shield, a recent investigation that uncovered widespread immigration fraud in the Minneapolis-Saint Paul area. The agency remains committed to conducting maximum vetting of all aliens, rooting out fraud, and ensuring the safety of all Americans.
Three Democratic members of Congress from Minnesota, including House representative Ilhan Omar, were blocked from entering an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center located near Minneapolis on Saturday morning.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/10/ilhan-omar-house-members-ice-facility-minnesotaTrump administration suspends $129m in benefit payments to Minnesota
USDA notified state’s governor of decision, citing inquiries into alleged fraud by local non-profits and businesses
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/10/trump-administration-suspends-129m-benefit-payments-minnesota>>2639640So they're just confirming outright that ICE is a private paramilitary force not beholden to the government but to Trump's whims. I mean we all knew that but it's good that they're also just saying that now
>>2639563Part of this post reads like a "I wish we could go back" oldfag resurgence and it makes me feel something in my gut. I don't think we're going back to that kind of quality but it's refreshing to see see people saying kill ice on other boards with /pol/sharts make cross board shit posts before the jannies clean it up. We're healing from 2016.
As senators woke up Saturday with questions on President Donald Trump’s audacious decision to order the capture of Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro, one of their old colleagues was ready with answers.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio worked the phones in the wee hours of the morning and, in the days since, has played an outsize role in not only formulating the administration’s strategy in Venezuela but explaining it to skeptical lawmakers wary of a protracted military commitmen
That outreach has been to his former Republican colleagues as well as Democrats, including those who see him as a rare Trump official with whom they can maintain a trusted and respectful relationship amid profound policy disputes.
“Although I may disagree with him on a day-to-day or hour-to-hour basis … he has shown extraordinary competence,” Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democratic leader, said in an interview. “I voted for him in this position; I still have confidence in his abilities.”
Others said they respected his particular expertise on issues in Latin America while also raising doubts about the strategy for Venezuela he is laying out in public and in private briefings — which for now involves propping up interim president Delcy Rodriguez as a de facto U.S. puppet.
“You can talk to Marco about — ‘Tell us about Delcy.’ … He knows all of that, and he can give you a sense of who they are and what they’re up to,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), a former colleague on the Foreign Relations Committee.
Kaine complimented Rubio for putting a renewed focus on the Americas, while quickly adding that Trump’s self-proclaimed “Donroe doctrine” is the “wrong kind of attention.”
Rubio returned to his old stomping groups Wednesday as part of a delegation of senior Trump officials who briefed lawmakers on the weekend military operation. There his status as a figure of special consequence who has taken on increasingly significant roles in the administration was on display
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/08/marco-rubio-venezuela-senate-00715617Prosecutors in DOJ's Civil Rights Division will not investigate Minneapolis ICE shooting, sources say
Prosecutors in the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division were told they will not play a role in the ongoing investigation into a fatal shooting of a woman in Minneapolis by a federal immigration officer, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Leadership in the Civil Rights Division, overseen by Harmeet Dhillon, informed staff in the division's criminal section that there would not be an investigation, two sources said. Normally, after a high-profile incident involving a fatal shooting by an officer, attorneys from the criminal section fly out to the scene. Multiple career prosecutors offered to do so in this case, but they were told not to do so, one of the sources added.
While investigations into the excessive use of force can be pursued solely by a U.S. Attorney's office without direct involvement from the Civil Rights Division, it is customary for the division's federal prosecutors to take the lead on high-profile investigations like the one in Minnesota.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-civil-rights-division-will-not-investigate-minneapolis-ice-shooting-sources-say/U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday signed an executive order that aims to block the seizure of Venezuelan oil revenue held in U.S. Treasury accounts.
The executive order states that the revenue, which is held in foreign government deposit funds, are “held solely for sovereign purposes” and that any court attempt to seize the funds will “materially harm the national security and foreign policy” of the U.S.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/10/trump-venezuela-oil-revenue.htmlThe order, which declared a national emergency, said the funds are the sovereign property of Venezuela held in U.S. custody for governmental and diplomatic means, and are not assets subject to private claims. Any use of judicial process against the funds will interfere with efforts to “ensure economic and political stability in Venezuela,” the order says.
Update
Maryland woman who says she is US citizen finally released from ICE custody
Dulce Consuelo Díaz Morales was held for 25 days even after attorneys said they presented ICE with US birth certificate
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/maryland-woman-us-citizen-released-ice-custodyAt least 200 courses in Texas A&M University’s College of Arts and Sciences catalogue have been canceled or flagged by university leadership for featuring gender- or -race-related content — and, as it turns out, not even Plato is safe.
https://www.them.us/story/texas-a-m-college-art-plato-nonbinary-gender-coursesVideos Show How ICE Vehicle Stops Can Escalate to Shootings
A WSJ visual investigation found that the Minneapolis ICE killing is one of 13 incidents where federal immigration agents have used deadly force against civilians in vehicles since July
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/videos-show-how-ice-vehicle-stops-can-escalate-to-shootings-caf17601?st=eTte5B&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink>>2639657hurr durr national security durr
>>2639563As long as RapeApe runs the site it's gonna stay a reactionary shithole
>>2639716I'm sure telling white women they're public enemy #1 after endorsing the murder of a mother is good idea.
>>2639716It's pretty grim when the President is saying "go out and kill your white women" isn't it?
>>2639716more proof we need to focus on radicalizing femcels instead of rehabilitating chuddies
fizzlin?
>>2639716Critical support to white women
What are some white women theory books I should know of
>>2639716scapegoat of the week. next week it will be trans people again. remember 3 months ago these people shed massive tears over a white liberal woman who got stabbed on a train and got over it as soon as they found out she was a BLM supporter?
>>2639731liquidationists have been deployed
>>2639733these dubs are compelling me to try to murder a filmmaker…
>>2639735How long does it take for people to realize anyone that speaks out against the system is a target regardless of anything? When the people who speak for it start being killed too?
>>2638357Marx supported nominal imperialism in certain instances when it served the goal of developing nations that were pathologically unstable, stagnant, or otherwise unable to advance to a point where the necessary conditions for the emergence of socialism could occur.
>>2639754retard lmao
the trve dawning of women’s consciousness will be upon all of you soon and I look forward to this mass malding event
anyways, check out andrea dworkin, helene cixous, luce irigaray, firestone
Went to the PSL walkaround to see if I could connect with ANYONE, ended up talking to some guys from a small maoist flavored group who were going around asking people if they thought PSL's modus operandi was effective. Apparently this group was able to stop 2 out of 3 ice raids at a university campus within the past year, so I'm going to try reaching out.
Also ran into a DSA person who I had a lively conversation with before, they were handing out zines encouraging conscientious objection to war taxes.
As for the speakers, I was pretty surprised they had people defending Venezuela as a socialist project and Ansarallah for fighting Israel and the US.
>>2639716…too… much… clown… …spectacle…
…must… …not… NGGGGH
*dies of cringe*
>>2639796Has he gone senile?
>>2639796Canada should be scared. They have two brigades and ones in Latvia LMAO
honkoid status?
>>2639770>the trve dawning of women’s consciousness will be upon all of you soonhonestly, I've already had my fill of sex life and I would laugh hard if women did a collective sex/birth strike like they do in South Korea. It would cause profit rates to plummet, my fellow moids to seethe and crash out, accelerating the collapse of the imperium. It'll be wonderful. Not class consciousness, but a nice bit of gasoline on the dumpster fire.
>>2639715Because tucker is talking about how americans with power shouldn't be killing other americans in any context and that hurts the "but I hate liberal white women, he was justified" stance after they put tucker on a pedestal for years. You know how the left is constantly screaming at each other? The right is like that now.
>>2639770Read The Chalice and the Blade.
>>2639770didn't andrea dworkin advocate for a women's israel?
>>2639770morning glory milking farm
>>2639824>>26397703 women walk into a bar:
1 communist,
1 girlboss capitalist,
1 dworkinite feminist.
They begin discussing how often men should change diapers.
"Moids should change all the diapers, so I can focus on my career." said the girlboss
"Moids should change none of the diapers, because they are all rapists, and not to be trusted around children." said the Dworkinite
"Men should change half the diapers, because they hold up half the sky." said the Communist.
The Girlboss and the Dworkinite then shot her for being a filthy centrist.
>>2639746>because they're clowns. you answered your own question. the "long" answer is that their entire strategy involves dickriding MAGA on twitter to attract MAGA followers, and then screech "TOTAL MAGA BETRAYAL!!!" whenever Trump does exactly what anyone with an ounce of intelligence knew they were going to do from the start.Not much else can be said about it. But I think these guys make an erroneous assumption that the MAGA base is structured around a coherent program or set of principles like communists are supposed to do. You will hear leftists say things like this a lot, like "they're sooooo close to getting it" because some MAGA guy said something about the banks. But I think the wellspring of the right is more based around power. The right is principally about power and maintaining, shoring up, or restoring traditional patterns of deference and command / domination. They'll get excited the more Trump leans into wanton imperialism and looting in contrast to wars they deem to be unprofitable.
>>2639845>muh powerlibtard fatigue
>>2639854What's the bet that 'other major military operation' is an attack on Iran?'
>>2639796It's been said already but if Trump actually annexed Klanada and Greenland, the future of the Democratic Party would be promising them statehood while the future of the Republican Party would be keeping them as territories.
>>2639854kek how would daily mail know this. hilarious if true
>>2639863republicucks would prolly want alberta and saskatchewan admitted as states
>>2639864someone post the peaky blinders clip of the fascist ulster irish cop saying that the daily mail will open your mind
>BREAKING: According to U.S. officials speaking to The New York Times, President Trump has been briefed on a new set of military options regarding potential strikes on Iran and is very seriously considering authorizing such action.
>Among the options presented are strikes focused on Iranian security and IRGC forces, which have been the primary elements employing lethal force against protesters. Regional U.S. commanders, however, have indicated they would prefer additional time before any action to further posture forces, consolidate defensive measures, and prepare for potential Iranian retaliation following any strike.
>>2639845You're correct that Right wingers are all about traditional ideals of masculinity and Trump being a "strong" leader. But the idea they only care about power and liberals don't is absurd. Liberals are just far more sly and insidious about it. Liberals want to go deeper than just beating up or killing a guy for disobeying, they try to control the entire mind and social being of the person instead. It's why they are obsessed with therapy.
>>2639863>>2639863>the future of the Democratic Party would be promising them statehoodand get potential voters to promote free public healthcare? hilarious.
>>2639796Canada was destined to become a part of the United States the minute the British Empire collapsed. That was the only thing really prevented it from becoming part of the US. Only province not going to get sucked in is Quebec
>>2639874>Regional U.S. commanders, however, have indicated they would prefer additional time before any action to further posture forcesKinda confirms the role of these Iranian 'protests'. Trump and Bibi are buying time to get things into place for a larger conflict.
>>2639877key word promising, not delivering
>>2639796I truly do not care if Trump annexes Canada or Greenland, it would be the first act of American imperialism I could get behind. The Cucknadians and Euros deserve the humiliation.
>>2639875>You're correct that Right wingers are all about traditional ideals of masculinity and Trump being a "strong" leader … But the idea they only care about power and liberals don't is absurd.That isn't what I'm saying. All politics is about power at the end of the day. I'm just saying the "traditional ideals" about masculinity are mainly just window dressing to glorify or justify them ruling, and you obeying them, because you're a faggot and weak and that's what you deserve because they're superior to you. Freedom comes from mastery and domination over other people. That's how I read the right at any rate.
>>2639854General Milley… Please coup Trump and my life is yours.
I deleted the SUV ramming the pick-up truck video because it was from October 2025.
>>2639796Good riddance to Europe and Canada. They need a healthy dose of America. Plus if the US annexes Europe I can have elevated protected citizen status and basically move to Europe to take their welfare.
>>2639906Less Australians on the internet benefits us all.
>>2639906>>2639896please oh my god please.
People will finally start to migrate to bluesky and maybe even the fediverse a bit. Or they're touch grass.
>>2639904To make it even simpler it just the chimp model of running a troop. Conservatives want something simple and visceral with a strong leader at the center. Of course any group can use the same model.
As a side note I've noticed on YouTube an uptick of liberals trying to disprove the existence of "alpha males" using wolves and whining about Andrew Tate tier retards, but completely ignoring or trying to sideline how our closest relatives, the chimps, act.
all this sheltered redditor nihilism, what a failure this community turned out to be
you guys might actually have something interesting to say if your lives actually mattered, if you actually participated in reality instead of hiding behind your videogame and porn addictions
>>2639746This is very uncharitible take regarding the Chairman and the Communist Party's strategic anti-fascist United Front. Your words serve imperialism. Please refrain from splitting United Front.
>>2639896Never post "BRICS News"
>>2639715>defends colonizing Venezuela? Show timestamp of this. His general line is that the empire is collapsing therefore it cannot be supported
>He is only upset that the administration is focusing ln foreign projects while ignoring America's internal problems.Incorrect. He connects the domestik problems to imperialism.
>>2639931are they the same as the telegram channel "BRICS news"? that one is really awful
>>2639942please invade greenland instead
>>2639924>videogame and porn addictionsYes and?
>>2639796Europe and Canada will either come to terms with the historical necessity of dismantling the United States as an existential threat to all life on Earth or they will get a taste of the imperial boomerang
So many beaches we have the chance to die on
>>2639944NATO on NATO violence by February please Mr trump
the greenlandese regime is killing protestors
>>2639942Professor Jiang vindicated
>>2639953bay of pigs requires more pork
>>2639969Stick to 2D anon.
>>2639942khamenei shoulda built nukes. now he's gonna get maduro'd but worse
>>2639912after the revolution everyone who has ever made a soyjak will be shot
>>2638301>magna cum laudeshe's actually wicked smart.
>>2638294>playing politics so the neolibs can't blame the progressives againShe makes Republican's seethe because she can run circles around intellectual lightweights like Cucker, Charlie Kirk, and Alex Jones. You should accept that she's an improvement over hacks like Nancy pisslosi and her presence is influencing more young people to get into politics who will be the left of her.
>>2639987I feel like him taking all this aspirin isn't even true and he just said it so people would cheer for Trump over dosing and dying and his base can use it as another thing to victimize him over.
>>2638294she looks like she would be a good fuck
>European Union preparing sanctions on US companies if President Trump rejects EU proposal to deploy European military force to Greenland as an alternative to US control.
lmao so scary..sanctions..
>>2639987>>2639996I think he’s doing it only because it explains how his hands are getting weird bruises.
>>2640001I mean, you do get bruising like that from taking too much aspirin. But what else would it be if it's a lie?
>>2639999maybe president trump should have foreseen those epic quads…
>>2639987is he still addicted to sudafed
>>2639991being smartsy at liberal social sciences it's the equivalent of babbling about a bunch of idealistic nonsense, using a refined, finessed, silver-tongued, almost sometimes coded and encrypted, word soup, but all non-substantial crap.
>>2639999The EU keeps bullying american tech companies into obeying their laws under the threats of billions dollar fines. It's nothing new and it could be actually pretty scary for the US.
>>2639987Trump's nose starting to bleed on live TV would be so funni
Plz, god, make it happen
>>2639999yeah actually, getting sanctioned by your biggest trading partner is huge news
>>>>2638301
fuck and kill all redlibs who still glaze AOC Bernie 'Squad' 'Democratic Socialism' glowuyghurs
>>2640012What alternative do you have?
>>2640014The EU has no leverage because they have no tech sector of their own
>>2638837'intersectionality' faggots and redlibs will refuse to recognize this.
>>2640012>muh liberalyou sound like an asshurt magatard
>>2640014>>2639999the EC is always cucked. for example, two times they acted above the European Parliament, overriding the lengthy but necessary discussions-to-laws steps to protect Europeans' data and privacy from the US comapnies (and obviously the CIA, because these companies openly provide data and privacy to intelligence agencies, as Snowden leaked, something the US establishment hasn't forgiven, they haven't forgiven Snowden at all, they want him dead). twice they got Schrems doing a massive lawsuit proving the US companies were violating the EU laws, the EC legal frame, and they had to pay billions, some are in settlements, but the EC moved anyway in 2022 on a third round of cuckery, setting up another 'privacy shield'. I assume, it was in response of Russia's SMO.
absolute spectacle of vassalism.
>>2640029obviously, the absolute science of Marxism, historical materialism, DiaMat, and the analysis required to understand that the world changes when the economic structures change, and not because you use he/they in your X/IG/FB/BluSky social media accounts.
>>2640033there's more than liberalism with its other side of the coin (idealists but homophobic), the conservatism, outside in the world.
>>2640038>there's more than liberalism with its other side of the coin (idealists but homophobic), the conservatism, outside in the world.yeah and you sound like that side because you're angry she graduated top of her class, in international relations, it's a pretty useful degree if you ask me
>>2640018you know what else would be funny
[THIS POST HAS BEEN DISAVOWED] >>2640014>it could be actually pretty scary for the US.Not really. Currently the US hasn't been doing much about those regulations but can do a lot if they want to retaliate. From targeting specific EU politicians financially or doing blackmail or assassination to official sanctions on specific companies or industries.
>>2640043The vassals getting uppity because they used to rule the world a century ago will quickly fall on their face because they have no real cards to play.
Protests status?
>The number of US citizen job holders dropped by 656,000 in December, while foreign-born job holders went up 310,000 in December
SAAR
>>2640075LAPD grabbed a few people
>>2640085But is the hotel ok!?
@everyone I recently lost access to my main source of income as well as my main source of food (leftovers while working at the taco stand) as well as my secondary source of food (the community pantry). Currently figuring out the next play. I was informed that my loud, anti-racist principles are bad for business, and am now permanently banned from what was, for me, an essential space.
Ergo, I am asking for donations, you can cashapp $jodiewodie
Anything helps, I'm about $150 away from my room rent.
As you know, I've sent the last few months really focusing on what I can do in terms of community here in central Florida, and the magazine was put on the back burner for that. I'm going to recommit myself to the magazine, and the new site launches within the next week or so. We've got a dozen submissions lined up and then some. You can submit art, articles, music, zines, DJ sets, and whatever else you think might be a good for HOUDINI to
[email protected] Thanks.
Erik Houdini
>>2640077Trump was an anarchist all along.
sent
>>2640095>my secondary source of food (the community pantry)oh my fucking god
so not only were you taking people's money to get tattoos, but your "community" pantry was also just your personal thingy to eat from. what percentage of the "community" pantry was going to you?
>I got banned for being too basedDon't believe this guy, he is known for begging/lying. Don't be his paypig. Give to PALESTINIANS instead if you have money. >>2639875>they try to control the entire mind and social being of the person instead. It's why they are obsessed with therapy.you can tell this mass tor baiter was bitter about being told to go to therapy by multiple family members and ex partners LOL
>>2640146maybe you should read some Foucault, champ.
>>2640181>sir lancelot>sir fart-a-lot.>>2639875>It's why they are obsessed with therapy.therapy with class-concious analysis is not only ok, it should be mandatory in any socialist state.
>>2640181Would you pick the sweat-plastered baby powder out of his folds for any amount of money?
>>2639999I know it's hard for you faggots to understand since none of you read theory or any adjacent geopolitics stuff but it's actually kind of a big deal when your entire imperialistic strategy for the past 80 years to avoid another series of catastrophic world wars that destroyed almost the entire imperial core has been to impose financial imperialism and forced free trade on the rest of the world by making the dollar the reserve currency… and then decide to just throw all that out the window by fucking over your main trading partners and throwing around your military against essentially the entire rest of the world and most of your own domestic population aside from a few irrelevant puppet states in South America.
this kinda shit isn't sustainable no matter how enviable your imperial hegemony is.
>>2639999they should prepare nukes. and then launch the nukes. they should nuke
>>2640191blah blah buzzword buzzword
China should nuke the USA
>>2640191you're 100% right. The US has gradually, but with increasing speed, done a 180 in its imperial strategy since 2001. It went from free trade currency hegemony "soft power" doctrine on its allies with a side of CIA coups on cold war proxies to a totally aggressive posture toward everyone.
>>2640191That's true but eurocucks will never do a thing about it because they are already under burger occupation. Pushback will have to come from somewhere else and no one else really wants to expend their resources to push it back when they can just wait
>>2640212I look like this and I say that
>>2640077This is the dumbest administration on the planet. I don’t know how is he not fucking up even more.
>>2640233>the freikorps isn't propetly trained in conflict deescalation!You guys are retarded
>>2640181I wonder if his neck vagina was farting
>>2640235Imagine the freikorps but fat and stupid
>>2640243Frieskorps
Fries corps
Fries corporation
McDonald’s
>>2640218the empire decays
>>2640248…so only fingers?
>>2640248Tucker is gonna be upset when he reads this.
>>2639875Exactly. Therapists are bureaucrats, like cops or tax collectors are. They are not your friends, they are not sagacious analysts trying to research the mind, they are specialists for cases that cannot be handled by family and friends. The fact that libtards suggest therapy and God forbid anti depressants for the slightest stress response you have in your life is horrifying, and the fact that they can couch this blatant attempt to bureaucratize life in maternal languages ("we only do it because we care about you!") is even more so. There is no difference between pro therapy propaganda and copagandas
>>2640255>>2640264>>2640258they are all doing The Final Donut-tion.
>>2640241>>2640243>>2640245>>2640246>>2640249>>2640133>>2640077“I’m calling the REAL cops Randy. Not the crazy, fake, trailer park, drunk, fat gut, crazy cops.”
- Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys
>>2640128>>2640136Now you understand why he chose to name himself after Harry Houdini, famous American illusionist and stunt performer. He has one magic trick: scamming people out of their money.
>>2640181>>2640187Knights of the fart table. ExxonCalibur. Robin Toot. King Farthur.
>>2640146> partnersAre you a cop?
>>2640270>>2639875They also assume you can afford therapy. It’s a “let them eat cake” moment.
Chapo Trap House just celebrated its 1000th episode by making one of those god awful D&D/LARP/story telling episodes that their own community kept telling them they hate. It's a big "fuck you, this is who we are" champagne socialist gestures.
And this when they had all these golden materials available: uWuZela, Greenland, ICE, Trumpfg, etc.
>>2640330cum boys supremacy
they have always only made shitty episodes everyone hates
>>2640181>he farted audibly no less than a dozen timeswelcome back, adolph hitler
>>2638282>reddit-tier manchild-aesthetic comicsthe state of you
>>2638432>right picRoger Freeman was talking about Nazi Germany, btw
> We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat. That's dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow to go through (higher education). If not, we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people. That's what happened in Germany. I saw it happen. >>2640330CTH is whatever but E1 scripted episodes are good. Everyone should listen to Roger Me Never.
>>2640353>reddit comicsmeds, now
>>2638396its pretty simple, you become right wing if you don't have the brainpower to think for yourself
and now, the people who think for them told them to hate teachers so they hate teachers
>>2640417AUTONOMOUS GRIEVING ZONEThis country is hopeless.
>>2640417>>2640419Radlibs are like post-modern shamans. They perform rituals where people gather, excorcise bad spirits, grant immaterial protection, and ruin everyone's but the most cultish goblins' vibes while doing so.
I, personally, would grab a shovel and perform a shoveldog.gif on these people's heads instead of letting them ruin everything, but it seems American radlibs are keen of this new religion.
Beats scientology, I guess.
>>2640417>burgermaidan protestors dig in against reigime reprisals building and manning barricades to protect civilians from armed violence.good. now they need to open a US embassy, and beg for freedom and democracy.
>>2640417>burgermaidan I hate geopolitik obsessed retards lmao
>>2640191You expect the multipolaroid geopolitic experts to READ?!?!
>>2640372Blaming teachers has been a right wing tactic for decades. Turns out all of societies problems can be laid at the feet of liberal teachers brainwashing children with Godless evolution and the gay agenda while hard working Americans are forced to pay high property taxes so rich teachers unions can support desegregation busing.
>>2640191b-but leftcoms told me the american empire was stronger than ever…
>>2639716>cant handle the white ladiesI take it back, fascism in the U.S. is a paper tiger and will cave to liberalism again
>>2639715He just wants to “pivot to china”
>>2640524He will just fire all the generals and replace them with chuds.
>>2640507This is where all that "you can't demand that the third-world use green energy!" discourse led us.
>>2640181Trump can monetize this.
>>2640524Where is MAD DOG Mattis when you need him
>>2640524is trump gonna let the generals big dick him like that? get rid of hteir asses. he should put his best friends in their place. anyone can do that job probably defnintely idk
>>2640559Discourse didn't affect this at all anon. Even if Cuba wanted to make its entire economy run off green energy, such a transition would require good-faith global cooperation and unprofitable investment on a massive scale.
>>2640181It's so funny how Trump clearly smells like shit and his entire cabinet has to pretend otherwise. Like imagine being Marco Rubio right now.
I bet it'll be the first thing they bring up in their inevitably tell-all books.
>>2640181Trump is a roastie
>>2640524>>2640596>Democrats suddenly realize attacking other countries is illegalThey couldn’t do this with Maduro because he was a “dictator” that disregards the rules based order. The law doesn’t apply to him.
>>2640599>They couldn’t do this with Maduro because he was a “dictator” that disregards the rules based order.>couldn'tWho forced democrats to call Maduro a dick-tator all these years?
THE USA IS A RABID DOG. IT NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN.
>>2640596The right should frame this as overthrowing a brutal monarchy. Call the danish king a dictator, call to remove demark from nato, call Greenlanders ethnic Americans. Just throw out all the usually bullshit
>>2640608trumps nazi base wouldn't go for that. how would femboy fuentes sell that to his incels?
>>2640608>>2640608Good point. Trump has BETRAYED us amerikans and the amerikan spirit by not opening up the second front and engaging in war of liberation against europe
>>2640596>country of white liberalsdoes he know?
>>2640615Well obviously these are like the cnn talking points and fox and right wing influencers will have their own talking points.
>>2640617Yeah I’ve decided I’m in favor of invading Greenland, I want to trump to invade Canada too. Let’s see what happens
america should invade greenland and canada ONLY if they fuck it up and lose badly. seizing those territories would put the imperialists in a much better spot strategically and politically which would be an absolute disaster
>>2640599They did actually pass legislation restricting further military action against Venezuela.
>>2640596Greenlanders are mostly Indigenous.
>>2640631Eh Trump and Vance have already come out on record as saying that the legislation is "fake" and Trump's "morality" is the only real limiter
>>2640635danish shouldn't be an ethnic category. they're nordic not danish.
>>2640077This is more or less the likes of the people who filled the ranks of the SA.
>>2640637Of course they say that, but I think it's still an open question as to whether or not Trump has the institutional support from corporate America and the security establishment necessary to fully override American liberal institutions and establish a presidential autocracy. From the sounds of things he doesn't have the support he needs.
>>2640620>>2640631>>2640635
>Greenland's leadership includesKing Frederik X of Denmark as Monarch, represented by High Commissioner Julie Præst Wilche (Danish appointee), and Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen (Demokraatit party), who heads the semi-autonomous government.
it's run by white liberals
>>2640642>a country of white liberals<sorry I meant a government of white liberalsapology accepted
>>2640640I think Trump has enough cultists and ghoulish imperialists in his circle to pull off some kind of attack, whether the rest of the military goes along with it is another story
>>2640642Greenland is a self governing colony essentially. It makes its own domestic policy but is under Danish sovereignty. It's a moot point anyways since the Democrats moved to limit action against Venezuela too.
>>2640648>the Democrats moved to limit action against Venezuela too.after it was over. great job
>>2639912Low-polling Belgian posts unfunny soyslop, asked to leave leftypol dot org
>>2640650They actually tabled this legislation a couple times before Maduro was snatched but it didn't pass until after. At any rate I'm not trying to suggest that the Democrats are anti-imperialists, but they have been less hawkish relative to Trump on certain issues. It's important to have an accurate assessment of the conflicts between bourgeois parties to the extent that these exist.
>>2640657Does anyone else remember when maga fulfilled this position in the bidenomic era? Halting the fund to ukraine and zionist entity? Democrats did less than that
>>2640657>At any rate I'm not trying to suggest that the Democrats are anti-imperialists, but "Anything said before the word 'but' is horse shit." - Ned Starch, Gambo Thrones Season 0
>>2640645governments define how countries interact with the world. greenland is considered part of the euro-anglosphere because of who runs it
>>2640662you spiked your cortisol moving those goalposts
>>2640651Yeah, that's what NSMP-7 said.
>There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.” These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution. This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties. Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity >>2640700Moooooooom Phineas and Ferb are making post-ironic fashwave edits for the US government!
>>2640700they were pretty cool, doing sometimes illegal shit to do fun things for the community
>>2640712please post this psychobabble to /isg/ where it belongs
kristi noem should get huge fake balloon tits
>>2640700This is so fucking corny. Every day these people find new ways to baffle me. If they aren’t being some of the most boring people alive, they’re either being stupid or lame in ways that scream “I never moved on from high school”. I just don’t get it.
>>2640318Counter point one time i volunteered with food not bombs after serving food and washing dishes i got to eat a plate
Same thing after i went to a normal mainstream food bank
>>2638396I hated high school but I've never had any issue with a female teacher.
I loved community college due to my professors who were mostly female
>>2640700Unironically just the "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" slogan.
>>2640657>muh conflict inside the unipartylol why do you keep insisting on this crap you fucking wrecker
>>2640660Remember to call your democratic party representatives to complain when ICE shoots you in the face so they make a big fuzz in congress! I'm not trying to suggest they are pro-workers BUT…!
>>2640700bioshock infinite sequel looking sweet
>>2640638hey dumbass, it's implied they're nordic because the very next item on the list is "other nordic"
>>2640739Because there are obvious differences between factions of the bourgeoisie and "they're all the same!" is midwit babby Marxist analysis. Yes, they are both imperialists and class enemies. No, the democratic party offers no path to positive change in America. No, you shouldn't go and vote for them. Yes, communists need their own party and should never trust the democrats or rely on them. That doesn't change the fact that the Trump administration favours a new strategic turn towards American unilateralism, more open use of force, more open subjugation of neighbours and allies, a potential dissolution of the transatlantic alliance, a turn away from liberal republicanism in favour of executive autocracy, etc. These are important differences that Marxists should take account of and work into their strategy. I'm not a wrecker just because I recognize the existence of different factions within the bourgeoisie. This is something Marx himself did, as well as the Comintern.
>>2640476I have a similar schtick where I just double down and say shit like "I hope you get replaced by a random Salvadoran your fucking annoying kys" or "every immigrant I have ever met is more well-adjusted and sociable than you, no one will miss you"
>>2640476and black men's genitalia too, it's crazy
>>2640712What did J K Rowling mean by this?
>>2639716liberal white women are gonna put a fried ass jpeg of this tweet onto a coffee mug labeled "republican tears" or some shit like that
>>2640835is something happening?
Dunce cap on. Just realized that universal education is hardly required for development. You need an elite of well educated STEMlords and technocrats, but most people just have to know how to do their job, and are over qualified by their universal education. All the pushes for school vouchers across the country make it perfectly there's an attempt to reduce funding for popular universal education, and the massive increase in vocational education similarly undermines "liberal" universalist notions.
>>2640843libs are "protesting"
cheerleading as ICE does stuff >>2640843They are raiding an house while protestors around
is it illegal to follow ICE around?
>>2640860No but they will shoot you which is not illegal also.
>>2640783oh no no no no
look at the top of his head HAHA
>>2640657Obama should have had a backbone and told Joe and Hillary to fuck off. He was cautious about intervention and said only UN action for intervention. If it was a Hillary or McCain the US would have had ground troops personally to handle Gaddafi
>>2640852>Dunce cap on. Just realized that universal education is hardly required for development.bait or retarded
>You need an elite of well educated STEMlords and technocrats, but most people just have to know how to do their jobmost jobs require literacy, which did not become a majority of the population until the industrial revolution and the end of feudalism made universal public education gradually more common everywhere
>and are over qualified by their universal education.most people are underqualified for their jobs and are "faking it to make it"
>and the massive increase in vocational education similarly undermines "liberal" universalist notions.why did you post this slop in /usapol/ and not in its own thread?
>>2640881>Obama should have had a backbone and told Joe and Hillary to fuck off.why would he do that? He's on their side you dumbass.
>He was cautious about intervention and said only UN action for interventionbelieved rhetoric award
>If it was a Hillary or McCain the US would have had ground troops personally to handle Gaddafialt history doesn't matter
>>2640804Yeah and if the left doesn't get their act together they're going to be the ones running the guillotines too. Step it up fuckers
>>2640900its hard to watch when its so libbed up
>>2640904>wife in scare quotesoh so cisgenders aren't the gender they're born as if you don't like them, but if they become trans they are. could this be a politics of spite?
>>2640863Wrong
>>2640860 Yes. Section 1510 of Title 18, United States Code.
>protestors are so cucked they should….
*does nothing but complain online*
>>2640920Engaging in liberal rituals is less than useless, especially when Russia and China keep winning by just not engaging with you retards
>>2640904>Not being lesbian makes you talleroff screen heels?
>>2640885>why would he do that? He's on their side you dumbassIt was reported that he did not want regime change in Libya until the Arab Spring and pressure within the cabinet and he said only with UN action should action be done. Sabo is right about hawkishness of dems compared to reps. It isn't saying they are anti-imperialist but we can acknowledge the difference. A republican would have went and did the intervention themselves
>>2640353missed the point to whine about aesthetics award
>>2640935NTA but why are you posting /pol/ DARVO propaganda? That line came from Sinclair which is a rightoid company that's been buying up local news outlets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwEAnd no it's not a coincidence that Sinclair is the one media company not in that image.
Stop posting /pol/ wojak slop.
>>2640353it was being used to quickly illustrate what a company store is for the ADHD libs that infest this place so I don't get what's wrong with it
>>2640944Maybe because it's reddit calarts nu-cartoon slop that aestheticizes class struggle into crude third positionist anti-capitalism
>>2640942> That line came from Sinclair which is a rightoid company that's been buying up local news outlets.so how is it /pol/? you're the one pushing the bullshit idea in this conversation that Obama was this anti-interventionist with good intentions who merely got wrecked by his cabinet and constantly appealing to the authority of the mainstream media to prove your point. It's clear what you're doing in this conversation. Let's revisit your post:
>>2640934>it was reported oh wow it was reported, y'all!!! case closed
>that he did not want because intentions matter more than results!!!
>regime change in Libyahe always was fine with it
>until the Arab SpringUS backed color revolution which was planned all along
> and pressure within the cabinetplausible deniability so he could say he was "forced" to do what he was going to do all along.
>and he saidoh !!! he said!!!! he said!!!! but what did the bloodthirsty imperialist
DO???>only with UN action should action be donewell that's not what happened and it makes no difference to me whether libya is couped by America directly or indirectly through the medium of the UN whose headquarters are in NYC and which helped america destroy korea.
>Sabo is right about hawkishness of dems compared to reps.no he wasn't and in any case the conversation moved on and my post was in response to YOU saying
>>2640881>It isn't saying they are anti-imperialist but we can acknowledge the differencethe difference is that the republicans will decapitate your country while the democrats will torture it to death with 1000 cuts. cRiTicAl sUpPoRt fOr ThE lEsSeR eViL
>A republican would have went and did the intervention themselvesi'm sure gaddafi cared deeply that the president was a black democrat as US-backed reactionaries LITERALLY raped him to death and brought open air slave markets to libya
>>2640942>quickly fetch a meme from leftybooru about how you shouldn't believe the imperialist media<WOW THIS IS HECKING POL BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE NPC WOJAKS>>2638282>quickly fetch a meme from google images about how company stores worked<WOW THIS IS HECKING REDDIT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE ART STYLEtwo sides of the same coin
>>2640958>get responses to your arguments>run out of arguments>project your own emotionsclockwork
>>2640954hombre, take a deep breath, sabo's right about the dems being less hawkish, but that doesn't fucking mean you should vote for them on that basis
>>2640966tAkE A dEeP BrEaTh and actually read what I said to you instead of repeating your "arguments"
>>2640950>calarts>nu-who cares retard
>aestheticizes class struggle into crude third positionist anti-capitalismit was just telling you what a company store is dumbass, you ignored the post to get mad at a picture. you are a stupid mass tor baiter FAGGOT.
>>2640968why are you so god-damn mad?
>>2640973>ur madnot an argument. read and respond to what I said or stfu
>>2640959leftypol only cares about the aesthetics of not wanting to appear "reddit" and not wanting to appear "pol" despite clearly basing itself on the latter lol, which is why they'll call you every slur in the book while telling you to go back to /pol/
>>2640973not him but dude it's incredibly obvious you're whitewashing obama's imperialism
>>2640988you're right. i am angry. now will you respond to what was actually said in anon's post
>>2640954 or keep harping on it? or will you go back to pretending they're "pol" for calling you out for your uncritical repetition of MSM talking points?
>>2640975he can't. he's scared of that post so he has to move the conversation along to the newest and most importantest goalpost: proving other anons are "mad"
>>2640996go find the original guy then
>>2640997so what point where you making entering in this conversation again?
trump is about the invade Cuba.
>Mr. Trump also shared a Truth Social user’s post that suggested that Secretary of State Marco Rubio should be Cuba’s president. “Sounds good to me,” Mr. Trump wrote. Mr. Rubio has long seen taking control of Venezuela as a way to force a governmental change in Cuba.https://archive.ph/zuFKL#selection-713.0-713.266>>2640966I wouldn't say they're less hawkish in general, in fact sometimes they're moreso (e.g. against Russia). It just seems like they're less so in this particular case.
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