all of you are democrats
None of u r communist
>>2646933do you think communism just falls out of a coconut tree?!
>>2646938Did you forget a few years ago when nationwide riots burned down entire city blocks over George Floyd? Every outbreak of major unrest begins with more benign shit like demonstrations.
>>2646933>all of you are democratsFalse
>None of u r communistTrue
>>2646946I'm sure there's a few people in an actual party in the website.
>>2646942And that accomplished what, exactly? Less than nothing, unless burning trash cans, breaking windows, and generally terrorizing people into vooting for Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris is your definition of something happening
>>2646933I actually registered green
>>2646949You're moving goalposts. You were saying that they were docile because they were demonstrating peacefully, now you're talking about the effectiveness of rioting. That's a separate issue.
Make the summer of '67 look like a blockparty
>>2646955That's another anon you're talking to. I'm the anon you originally replied to and I kinda agree with you, however its kinda crazy that americans will do anything but pick up a [REDACTED] and just [REDACTED]
Ugh my mom called me saying that Russia's going to invade Greenland. I need to reread DuBois on how the American people are a fine kindly breed.
>>2646959If they do, you owe me money.
>>2646958Some people including leftists have brought guns to demonstrations, but without proper organization its not helpful. Even more important is a militant mood among the masses such that they view revolutionaries with guns as liberators rather than a sign of lawlessness demanding harsher repression.
Even here it is not safe
even this thread has been defaced
someone has been written on this post
in some angry hands
COPE RIDES ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
>>2646876>sell-out. that's what happened. in 2019 goes to say that Venezuela isn't a threat. then endorsed trumpedo's gunboat diplomacy towards Venezuela.But Tulsi's given up all her previous positions and is doing everything Trump wants. So why does he push her out of his circle now after she kissed the ring? Seems weird.
>>2646889>remember when she said that bernie was a misogynist without evidence? Listen sweetie, only a misogynist would dare oppose a women in any way. He ran in the primary against Hillary. That's all the evidence we need.
>>2646938"Please atop killing us!" – ICE protestors
"LOL, no!" – ICE
"I would prefer if you didn't have sex with children, sir!" – unionized Ford worker
"Relax, guy!" – Donald Trump
So did they shoot one guy with a shovel or two people in a car or all three or wtf is going on?
>>2646971Inconclusive, but it was surely in self defense
>>2646971They probably ran into a brown-looking guy shoveling snow and shot him.
Ice is barely trained, but are they trained in riot tactics?
>>2646980Apparently they're only getting six weeks of training with barely any standards for fitness or literacy. It's quite literally a welfare program for fat psychopathic low autism score lumpens.
>>2646982do you think that since BLM 2020ish, that Minneapolis has some ML presence attempting to emerge?
Does someone have that webm/mp4 of the burning of the third precinct with people standing with the blaze at their back and facing the crowd
>>2646985ICE just calls anyone they shoot Venezuelan.
>>2646987I have no clue. I'm not plugged into developments among US communists enough to say. In addition to the well known parties like PSL and CPUSA there's a plethora of smaller local orgs across the states. It's possible that they could have been making inroads but this is always a slow grinding process. If they have then I don't see much sign of that with these ICE demonstrations.
>>2646985and you won't believe it, he was
khamas too!!!!!
>>2646993Mark my words the burgerreich is going to use NSPM-7 to try mass arrests this year.
>>2646996They're already doing mass arrests.
>>2646997mass arrests of white people*
Fizzle gang, ice got out and the protesters are against the state police.
/nightgang/ is necessary
>>2646982How many people in ICE do you think are former NEETs
This is how nothing happens
Not with a sizzle but a fizzle
Reports say they put an ICE officer in the hospital?
>>2647012Considering they've been harassing hospitals hopefully they get sub-standard care.
>>2647016>any business that services nonwhite people>"IT'S LE FRAUD">"NO FUNDING FOR YOU"is this the new meta?
Beyond parody.
>After wrapping up his four-minute-long speech about the bill and his Make America Healthy Agenda, Kennedy finally received the presidential handshake he was waiting for before Trump turned his attention to the large bottle of milk on his desk, joking that it had been sitting there for five days and he wanted to offer it to the reporters in the room.
>The Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act of 2025, passed by Congress in the fall, overturned Obama-era limits on providing higher-fat milk options in schools, with Rollins describing the bill as legislation that fixed Michelle Obama’s “short-sighted campaign to ditch whole milk.” Schools will still be still permitted to offer skim and low-fat options to students in addition to whole and 2 percent fat milks.
>In an appearance on the Katie Miller Podcast on Tuesday, Kennedy discussed Trump’s eating habits, telling Miller, “The interesting thing about the president is that he eats really bad food, which is McDonald’s, and, you know, candy and Diet Coke. But he drinks Diet Coke at all times. He has the constitution of a deity. I don’t know how he’s alive, but he is.”
>Despite this unusual diet, Trump claimed that drinking milk had helped him “ace” three cognitive tests, which are typically used as a screening tool for dementia.
>“I’ve taken a lot of them,” Trump said on Wednesday. “I’ve aced every one of them because I drink milk.”
>>2647017You might say it's the New Norm!
>>2647015Probably not. These people all remember their Hippocratic Oath when it’s a pig and forget it when it’s a miscarrying woman.
>>2647021Trump remains extremely funny god damn it
>>2647018Of all the awful things Kennedy has done (and he's already done some really horrendous shit that will lead to the death and suffering of millions) this is definitely not on the list. It is very funny how much Kennedy is disgusted by Trump though.
>>2647026>he's already done some really horrendous shit that will lead to the death and suffering of millionsName two
>>2647027Isn't it exhausting going out of your way to come up with reasons why anything remotely encouraging should be ignored?
>>2647029Bringing back measles and rotavirus.
>>2647021I'm beginning to suspect that Trump doesn't like the coup potentates (Vuvuzela Nobel Peace Prize Lady, Iranian Crown Prince) for only a single reason: in his mind they would take away the fame >>>from him<<< while he should be the one taking all the credit for making the best deals and toppling dictators or what not.
People in the pentagon who rigged the Nobel committee must be malding and seething because of how Trump's narcissism trumps their efforts.
Super funny, btw.
>>2647030OWS
BERNIE
BLM
CHAZ
ICE
Name 1 thing that should make me rationality hopeful.
>>2647033Sure, but that's anti-imperialist praxis. I thought you meant that Kennedy was killing millions of real people.
>>2647040You're such a little bitch kill yourself if you're so hopeless. Why do you even continue to breathe, faggot?
>>2647042>if you are not irrational like me you should kill yourself!!!!Bruh, think about the optics for a second.
there's so much bickering in this thread. Why is everybody so high-strung? it's not like the world's about to end or anything
>>2646965the punchline is
chef's kiss 😘👌🧑
>>2647027yet here you are posting on leftypol instead of protesting yourself
curious
>>2647052this is the man who has been outsmarting the democratic party for over a decade now
>>2647063Are they going to invoke the Insurrection Act next?
>>2647066I think they're certainly going to try, the only reason they didn't do it over BLM was because of a host of other factors that aren't present here
>>2647040It's not a question of being hopeful, it's a question of being able to identify sentiments among the workers that work in our favour and to which we should apply pressure. You see people expressing their anger at ICE and your first thought should be about how communists can further agitate these people, how we can educate them, turn their anger into class consciousness, and organize them. Instead you declare that its hopeless and we shouldn't bother because they aren't committing suicide by cop. If you're waiting for a fully class conscious proletariat to spring forward fully formed and land in our laps then you'll be waiting forever. The role of communists is to go out and build class consciousness, which by definition means recruiting, working with, and most importantly fighting for people who aren't class conscious, i.e. liberals. You turn them into communists by fighting for their interests and being their most resolute ally wherever they come into conflict with bourgeois power, no matter how minor.
>>2647074What party are you a member of? Don't try to "educate" me about the "role of communists" if you are not even in a communist party or in a party that shills for democrats, please.
>>2647080Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot kill yourself you piece of shit
>>2647080What communist party are you a member of that we should join?
>>2647081Thought so. You are not a communist. You are an individual(ist) with communist sentiments. You don't get to tell me noffin. Come back when you joined the PSL.
>>2647084I'm not an American to begin with.
>>2647088Then what the fuck are you yammering about? You're incessant about being a doomer but dont even live here dude
>>2647085you fucking retard I'm NTA, I'm just calling you a bitch for your rigid thinking. Fuck off out of here with your bullshit
>>2647093I watched Americans high on hopium during all of these events listed here:
>>2647040 (the list is longer, but nevermind), and saw hiw they NEVER, EVER draw strategic or theoretical conclusions from these failures. Your "recipe" is just to repeat failed formulae over and over again and shit on rational people that doing the same thing won't bear different results.
I am an expert on Americans, yes.
>>2647080I'm a member of the Communist Party of Canada.
>>2647097Anarchists don't get a seat at the adult's table.
>>2647104>Your "recipe" is just to repeat failed formulaeWhat failed formula would that be?
>>2647101you can just reset it and try different wording and eventually it'll agree with you
>>2647106you're not in the US and telling people they're not real communists unless they join a party that is known for being a completely useless shitshow of marching around in circles chanting slogans and letting themselves get kettled and arrested by cops. so basically you're a massive faggot and should kys
>>2647107Reformism through the Dems, decentralized protest movements being overtaken by dems, etc.
>>2647111People have increasingly broken from both of those over the years and have largely rejected the Dems entirely by now
>>2647110While I agree with you that the communists in america have been ineffectual, the REASONS why they were that way have begun to wither away.
We can actually
retry methods from the past now because things are very different now. That means you CAN join leftist ML orgs even the CPUSA and achieve something we never have before.
>>264711390% of leftypol's Americans will vote Dems the coming election to "fight" Trump's "fascism".
>>2647116There won't be another election, dipshit!
you guys have got to get past communism and marx. it's the 21st century, new information has come to light, you're just being performative and latching onto the most well-known historical leftist cause for performance's sake. stop performing and learn how to use your fucking brain.
>>2647113Even the entirety of the people inside DSA openly admit and the general unofficial but clearly palpable consensus is that they have to make a dirty break from the Dems. That time will come very soon. Now is the time to march. It's an open fucking field boys
>>2647116Oh is it not fascism anymore? Are we not allowed to call it that?
>>2647114>We can keep doing the same thing that didn't work before because it turns out that we were right all along it's just that the world was wrong!Narcissists.
>Also, voote blue no matter hooo (CPUSA)Bourgeois shills.
>>2647119Shut the fuck up and look at China and Vietnam. Marx is the only way forward, ML states are the only states doing well right now, and it's not even close. Get the fuck out of here
>>2647101that depends enterally on what you spoon feed the AI, tbh. it's like the assessment of 'white genocide' in South Africa. if you spoon feed the AI what musk/trumpedo say, you'll get them to agree with the narrative. shitlib media and rethug media won't call it an 'executions of American citizens in the streets' thus it won't tell you that.
>>2647121If it were fascist you wouldn't be allowed to vote it away to begin with. Your actions betray your professed beliefs.
>>2647121america never will be fascist but also it was always fascist since the beginning
>>2647111>Reformism through the DemsWhere did I advocate for this?
>decentralized protest movements being overtaken by demsDo you want to know why the dems overtake decentralized protest movements? Because they organize them and communists don't.
>>2647122You dipshit they TRIED revolution and couldn't because there was no revolutionary break, so they had to bide their time, all of us had to
But now we are actually on the verge of a revolutionary break with the Trump administration metabolizing the entirety of the American State. If we can be defeatist enough, the rest of the world will jump on the chance to crush us. They're just waiting for us to give them the clear.
Open your mind buddy
>>2647118*Yawn*See you at the polls
>>2647036They'll arrest you for podcasts and typing too. At least with a crowd you have numbers to fight back but when you're isolated in your house they'll have a swat team kill you at 3am.
>>2647118There will be elections. However, the presidency doesn't have to listen to congress and they can get the supreme court to rubber stamp anything so it doesn't matter.
>>2647129"We half-assed it!" should be the official USA motto.
>>2647128>>2647132since y'all can predict the future, gimme the powerball numbers
>>2647134You need to listen to what Trump and his administration are saying. They will not stop. They are going full hilt, dude. They don't give a fuck. It's fucking OVER bro and you need to realize that NOW before it's too late and you're unprepared.
>>2647128We're NOT allowed to vote it away though. The uniparty, remember?
>>2647116Your position is unironically "workers aren't spontaneously class conscious so we should give up".
damn they're killing more people and it's fizzling. grim
>>2647140The MAGA republicans will NEVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
let a democrat win the presidency ever again.
They are fully committed to a complete and perpetual capture of the executive.
>>2647136>We ae fastists… Kinda>We won the space race…. Kinda>We won ww2…. Kinda>We toppled the soviet union…. Kinda>We liberated the slaves….. KindaIt's a nation of half-assers
>>2647143What are you talking about? Protesters managed to raid one of the ICE vehicles and they've got their logistics plans, details of operations, names of ICE agents and FBI agents, switchable plates, hotel reservations, etc. A lot of shit is happening, mostly ICE getting completely clowned on
>>2647140Trump is like bringing the apocalypse, man.
>>2647143this is why anarchists can be "used" but we dont have them as much any more. If you can trick the anarchists into rioting, you can create the fluidity and stochastic atmosphere/fog of war shit that allows communists to operate without being detected. Also lays the ground for a revolutionary break if you can escalate enough.
>>2647121fascism is an emergency response to communist advances
>>2647145That's why the nation itself must be crushed
>>2647153You will half-ass crushing the nation as well.
>>2647150You dont need to trick is into rioting, we'll happily do it whenever there's a good excuse
>>2647150deploy the tactical anarkiddies
>>2647148Listen. The Trump administration is FULLY COMMITTED to lebensraum. They are organized, every intelligent nazi that lay hiding in the USA is at the table living their fucking dream right now.
They are accelerating hard as fuck. This is real.
>>2647156Hey buddy, go wild lol. Do your worst!
>>2647150Reality is not a computer strategy game.
>>2647162It literally is you fucking dipshit, and the fascists know it. That's why they're kicking our ass.
>>2647161Oh but anon, dont we always?
[obnoxious laughtrack]
[stock film of women applauding]
>>2647159Nah. You just take /pol/'s power fantasies and hysterically conclude: "this, but for real". Even actual nazis know that Trump is a clown.
>>2647147Wait, what? I’ve been out of the loop for a few days, when did this happen?
>>2647140Why throw away the cover of elections and the legitimacy it gives them? If they can rig the votes for the presidency and ignore congress then what's the point of abandoning the constitution when it lets them do whatever they want anyway?
>>2647166Trump is a figurehead and a symbol, a cult of personality to organize around and one that gives them legitimacy. But the nazis know that stephen miller, pete hegseth, and all those retards are chaotic enough to give THEM the room to move in and take over, applying their nazi autism to serious and methodical actions. We're seeing it in real time. How the fuck do you think they were able to kidnap maduro?
>>2647169Just a few minutes ago, it was on one of those protest livestreams. Basically they chased a bunch of ICE agents out of one of the neighborhood blocks and they left one of their vehicles behind with a shitload of goodies
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