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Previous thread: >>2647915

Remember, legal + illegal struggle
Remember, praxis + theory
Remember, it's not impossible

any nukes yet

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And to think they're trying to push this guy as the "new Bernie Sanders"

Reposting my reply to CPUSAnon in >>>2648773

>What is to be with trump supporters?


>Personally I think the only way to deal with this is mass censorship of right wing news orgs and forums, tear them apart piece by piece. Then make token arrests of the loudest and most anti-social Trump supporters and send them to be re-educated. Start aggressively taxing churches that served as propaganda arms for the Republican party. Then work on tearing down every goddamned confederate statue in this country (replacing most with John Brown and other abolitionists) and aggressively begin a propaganda campaign to revive the spirit of reconstruction by attacking the Confederate Cause, its leadership, and declaring once and for all that the civil war was about slavery and that the confederate states existed solely to perpetuate slavery, and that their being crushed mercilessly was a historically good thing.

I get where where you're coming from, especially the last half of your paragraph, but with the first half you're too soft on the Trumpists yet too harsh on free speech. Historically, Socialists in the US have always been unconditional advocates for free speech which few American Leftists today appreciate. Censorship is something we can't really afford to cynically pick and choose in the US, especially in the past 3 years since Oct 7th, where Biden's latter-day term and especially Trump's term now are directly invoking Left-of-Center rhetoric around antisemitism to justify the repression of protesters.

Besides, as far as the whole debate between free speech vs censorship goes, Leftists today just don't really appreciate the secret third option, which is freedom of the press for the sole purpose of making the Red terror easier to pursue. Censorship merely makes the Right better at speaking in code. Even still, as long as we manage to have control of the most mainstream outlets of mass media, we can just drown them out anyways.

That being said, I feel there's a lot of things that can, and should, be done to break the back of the Conservative movement, and a lot of it would be through creating a new Democratic, Socialist Constitution to ensure that, through law, Conservatives and the bougies are either systemically locked out of power, or have their power equalized by proletarianizing the bougies and actually enshrining worker's democracy and the Rights of oppressed/marginalized groups.

Among many other things to include in that Constitution:
>Allow multi-party democratic elections in a unicameral legislature (with the caveat that advocating for any return to Capitalism is banned)
>(Similar to how the IWW deals with membership) You can only have voting rights as long as you don't own capital, or be someone else's boss. If you are a boss, you have to immediately train your former subordinates in managerial functions to encourage worker's self-management before you can regain voting rights. (admittedly, the terms and conditions around that last part would need to be hashed out by an actual Socialist movement instead of just a single guy like me)
>Freedom of religion, but with the caveat that if an individual congregation is confirmed, with proof, that they were either advocating for the arbitrary stripping of a group's Rights, or aiding and abetting a Conservative political organization, that congregation will be deemed a political organization and be dealt with accordingly

And a few other things that should be done, but might not necessarily be something to include directly in a Constitution, assuming that any of this would be done in the context of a violent confrontation like another civil war:
>Rank-and-file combatants of a Right wing faction must undergo re-education and, if need be, a literal socialization process
>If any rank-and-file combatants are confirmed to have committed a crime against humanity upon an individual or community, they shall be tried by a jury composed of the individual, closest relative and/or the community directly wronged, with the power to decide punishments up to and including execution. If those rank-and-file combatants are confirmed to have committed genocide on a community, they shall be tried by a military tribunal (let's face it, they're getting the fucking wall at that point)
>Open season on the organizers of Conservative organizations, be they Propagandists, Officers (political and/or military), or Theorists*1
As a bonus, certain Centrist Democrats should be tried in court for war crimes or crimes against humanity, depending on their context, and sentenced from anything between permanent house arrest to execution, assuming any of them live long enough to be tried at all.

*1: The lines between these three roles can often blur for some individuals, but I feel the need to emphasize these distinctions because people put so much focus on guys like Ben Shapiro and the like as if they're theorists just because they write books. In reality they're propagandists and thus low hanging fruit compared to the theorists, who are actually deep in the thinktanks. Pic related

Agents raided wrong apartment in search for items stolen from FBI vehicles, woman says
A raid on a south Minneapolis apartment building Thursday left a family shaken, outraged and looking for answers.

Ring video shows law enforcement officers with long guns moving in, busting through the door, before entering the apartment building. Another angle shows officers inside, searching Alisa Porter's unit before ripping the camera off the wall.

The Hennepin County Sheriff's Office says it was conducting a criminal investigation and executing multiple search warrants for a firearm stolen from a federal vehicle on Wednesday night. The operation was assisted by the ATF, FBI and other agencies. The investigation is ongoing.

Porter said agents raided the wrong apartment.

A copy of the search warrant left behind lists the name of a man living at 2926. Mail for Porter lists her address as 2928 Apt 2.

WCCO also learned that more than just a gun was taken when two FBI SUVs were broken into. The document left behind by law enforcement lists highly sensitive items that were taken, including multiple FBI access badges and wallets containing driver's licenses and credit cards.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minneapolis-fbi-raid-wrong-home/

>>2648885
Watching the democrats talk about how abolishing ICE isn't aligned with their party and how we should focus on ICE reform and giving them better police training
it makes the blood boil and its exactly why I haven't voted since 2020
they did this same shit with BLM in 2020
absorb the radical, repackage as more neoliberal conservatism
and it works too, people love this shit
there are still people who think this is a "trump" problem, and blame people who didn't vote for Kamala for this, as if Kamala's number 1 campaign promise wasn't more ICE, more border patrol and creating the "most lethal" military possible
i know damn well that a lot of these liberals do not care about the families being seperated, or the in humanity, or the cruelity, or the murdering of civilians, or the IDF training both ICE and our domestic police, they only care about the optics. Can't you send people to camps a little quieter, a little nicer, with a little more decorum? so we can get back to brunch please?


Burgers don't even own Greenland yet but are already on a mission to civilize the barbarian natives.

>>2648899
Jesus christ, at least name an alternative protein and fat source

If Americans cant beat ICE how you gonna beat the army/special forces when the revolution starts?




>>2648885
Someone has to ram the point down the throat of every one of these libs that none of their weasel worded denunciations of ICE count for shit unless they are willing to give every single one the death penalty by firing squad and dismantle them.

Fascism already won. It's over. I'm fleeing to Mexico.

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>>2648910
gringos are so absolutely fucked it's unreal just hoping they don't murder-suicide the global south

Hilarious that ICE have been given a free hand to respond to protestors as now they're simply agitators for the administration who can stir the pot and forment yet further violence.

There's absolutely no restriction as doubtless they're pressing for the insurrection act so they can clamp down further whilst causing the republican base to close rank and simply radicalise fence sitters to their cause. The absolute beauty of it.

>>2648920
Forever grateful that I'm only watching this unfold from the other side of the Pacific. Hopefully this shit with Greenland results in NATO imploding and makes my government rethink their relationship with the US.

>Still can't find a job that isn't retail despite having a stem degree
>Rent is over 1.4k where I live, not counting utilities
Holy fuck I am close to just dropping out entirely

>>2648929
>tfw cono sur
i have lower chances of surviving whatever is coming but fuck it we ball

>>2648918
You don't actually think central and south America will be safe do you? Monroe Doctrine 2.0 has just started.

>>2648938
>just started
it's been well underway for a good decade now, it's just gotten more kinetic lately

>>2648918
Gotta flee to China.
The entire world going to get dragged into this shit show eventually. In China you will at least have a chance to be on the winning side

It's officially fact checked

>>2648902
How do we even begin to field an army of the people? Could you imagine any of the current political parties (ie DSA, PSL, FRSO) supporting guerilla action?

Because what would happen is all of these organizations would immediately disavow (HOUDINI wouldn't!) any sort of action done by any sort of guerilla force. If you look at the reasons the RAF failed in Germany (1970s), it was primarily due to a lack of media propaganda that allowed the guerilla to be connected to the mass struggle.

The same pitfall remains today, there is simply no organization or spokesperson who would run fade for the guerilla. It's electoralism or bust even if the system is completely busted, even if they are killing working class people in the streets.

Do you know how much I make via youtube ads and patreon? (I make nothing, but plenty of our best spokespeople make hundreds of thousands) How could I ever speak out for the guerilla if that would risk my finances, my platform, my ends, my kids going to college? I mean this is a legit thing that the owner of Means.tv said to me when we met, "this makes enough that I can put my kids through college". That doesn't seem like people who are actually revolutionary, actually able to take risks, homie has a toddler and wants his business to support that. Simple as.

Imagine a group of guerillas successfully organize, mobilize and neutralize an ICE caravan, there is simple no one who would side with them, even if the masses saw them as heroes at first, the zone would immediately be flooded with "violence is never ever acceptable, we disavow this terrorism" from every major "anti-capitalist" party in this godforsaken nation. In combination with the captured mainstream media's propaganda.

How do I know? I saw this exact thing with Luigi, with the guy who shot the two IDF officers in Chicago and with the guy who murked Charlie Kirk.

Everytime the masses use violence, the institutional left is quick to draw a line in the sand and sell out their own people.

Expecting the PSL or similar to answer the call is the same kind of delusion liberals have when they think the police will turn on ICE. It's all farce. All counter revolutonary.

I do not want peace. I want liberation, and liberation can only be won via revolutionary war. War is, after all, an extension of politics, after all other ends have failed (and they have!) war is the only possible solution.

There's a reason Lenin had everyone reading Clausewitz.

How Trump is making China great again—and what it means for Europe
https://ecfr.eu/publication/how-trump-is-making-china-great-again-and-what-it-means-for-europe/

LMAO

>>2648941
Yes, good luck being a random ass gringo in China, who have no family or professional connections there, at a time when anti American xenophobia will increase sooner or later due to confrontation over Taiwan

>>2648940
Really it never ended. While there was a light pushback with the pink tide, clearly they've regained their footing and decided to ramp up the aggression.
>>2648941
There are starting to become more selective. Good luck getting in and then staying in.

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>>2648946
>How do we even begin to field an army of the people? Could you imagine any of the current political parties (ie DSA, PSL, FRSO) supporting guerilla action?
<Step 1: make a web page with a call to action hosted in a country that isn't party to 5 Eyes
<Step 2: print out stickers with attractive images of hot women or just commie memes and QR codes linking to your website and plaster them all over town
<Step 3: use your website to post specific dates and times for protests and encourage people to show up to them AND DO SHIT with no restraint or limpwristed "calls for peaceful protest"
<Step 4: ????
<Step 5: Profit!

>>2648967
>anything but organizing workers as workers
the end point of "leftist" praxis is shitting up the streets with stickers

>>2648970
America does not have any infrastructure for labor organizing. The American worker has no labor power.

>>2648946
"Omg you're fed posting, you're gonna get vanned"
let em

let em come get me I do not care and if you do, you clearly missed the most important part of being a revolutionary: your death is all but guaranteed because you are speaking of things that inherently destabilize the current regime


Yes we are in a revolutionary moment, we have been in a revolutionary moment for half a decade at least. I grew up watching the BLM protests of the early and mid 2010s culminate in the actions of 2020. It was not enough, it was not organized. CHAZ failed. The entire moment failed to be seized and I have become increasingly disillusioned with both the anarchist spontaneous insurrection route and the "communist party" route. Neither of these will work for our material conditions. Neither of these will make for revolution because neither concept is ready for what it really is to create revolution. The third worldist option that the American people are inherently incapable of revolution because we get to eat cheap fast food slop doesn't appeal to me because it is nihilist blackpilled nonsense.

The only path forward is uncomprising militant revolutionary rhetoric.
HOUDINI Magazine seeks to be the modern Iskra and I'm not afraid to say that.
I am so beyond sick of sectarianism, of labelism, of politics as identity. I am tired of the endless debates over historical shit. I am tired of the dogmatic nonsense, this idea that you pick a label and defend it until you die. Fuck that. Am I an anarchist? Am I a communist? I am a revolutionary, and it would behoove everyone else to think the same.


I am sick of joining some youtuber's politics server and being greeted with 100 labels to chose from. Are you a Maoist? A Titoist? An anarchist? Brother I am a revolutionary, and that should be enough. It's all retarded nonsense that does not benefit anyone who is actually here to make change, not just to profit off the thought of it. Our material conditions are different from the conditions of every other revolution, just as those revolutions had different material conditions from each other. It is a fool's dream to apply the logic of the past to the vision of the future. The only thing all of this theory serves is to inform people of the potential. You cannot read Lenin and think it will be the same in the United States because we have no peasant base, same with Mao. Anyone worth their salt understands this.
I am sick of the idea that moving as a revolutionary requires perfection. The amount of mistakes, bad plays and poor judgement I've had, in real time? It shows me that moving different requires mistakes. People are scared of mistakes, of learning from their failures, of being checked by someone who sees their bullshit. It is ridiculous to have these debates as someone who as, for better or worse, given their life to the cause. You've got people who have never had to even deal with realpolitik, talking down on people who spend their time immersed in it. That is why I got so burnt out with online activism, it's full of posers and fakes. People who are not willing to die for the cause criticizing people who are.


Do you know what it is to know you have no ends? That you are at rock bottom, in a foreign place, with nothing but your balls and your word? Do you know how hard it can be to get told you've been blacklisted by a variety of local businesses because of your politics? "Don't even bother applying to X, Y and Z, word gets around and the owners of X, Y and Z don't like how you talk about class" I do. I know that feeling. I've been in that moment. Then you have to think about how you do revolutionary work without the potential of income because motherfucker these small businesses control the power. Then you have to debate with a comrade on whether you speaking loudly about someone who's living with 2 kids and mold is appropriate because that person has considerable say in your local sphere. And by speaking boldly and loudly in the house of the worker, you are blacklisting yourself in the house of the owner, all while trying to build power locally. Can you handle that? Can you? Because I am very much tired of being criticized by people who cannot handle it, and would never put themselves in a position to deal with the aftermath of their mistakes as revolutionaries.

>>2648970
welcome to leftoidpol! no need for scare quotes

>>2648972
>proletarians need specific infrastructure to associate with each other
you are seriously retarded lol

>>2648974
>proletarians need specific infrastructure to associate with each other
how would you propose organizing the proletariat as laborers during a time when laborers have no third places and no connection to eachother beyond the workplace?

>>2648977
And now you see why I have spend 6 months testing the contraditions between small businesses and revolutionaries, only to get banned by a "leftist" space for calling out a performer who was posting memes about George Floyd, despite the place having like 3 signs up that say "Zero tolerance for racism, sexism, SA, etc", because calling people out is bad for business.

The only community left in the US is the consumer community. Are you good for business? Do you create minimum friction? Can we use your community pantry as marketing? If you say yes to all three, good, you can stick around, but if you create friction, you can get the door and begone.

Anything that protects profit can be justified by that profit. The contradictions cannot be resolved and small business owners are not working class, even if the masses, or other comrades, think they are.

>>2648984
Shouldn't you be flipping burgers right now?

>>2648986
Insane to me that "being a burger flipper" could be an insult on a leftist board.

Sorry I'm not the Chad reseller or dropshipper or landlord or whatever other capitalist cuck you worship is. You should kill yourself either way, fuckboy.

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>>>/peace/1

>>2648989
I didn't mean it as an insult, rather an annoyance with your unceasing pestilence.

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RT doing better journalism than the Western media combined again.


>>2648933
>i have lower chances of surviving whatever
Im southern cone too, whats your logic (im scared)

>>2648929
>Hopefully this shit with Greenland results in NATO imploding and makes my government rethink their relationship with the US.
>my government
Silly vassal jokes.

>>2648997
>Monroe doctrine 2.0 ramping up
>one generation of separation from family plan condor victims
>militant
>milei on other side of the river
>DEA sponsored narco violence to serve the empire
just statistically increased chances of being a victim of political violence i guess

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this shit that USAnian politicians do where they pull out big ass posters is so funny

>>2649002
A piece? Not even a head?

>>2649004
What are you, a glutton?

Gotta save money here.

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>>2649003
We are a proud nation of illiterates.

>>2649002
>>2649004
>>2649005
What are you sniveling bitches whining about? That could feed like 4 African kids for a week!

>>2648973
To be honest man sadly most people aren’t ready for that, I know im not. I might doompost about this feeling tomorrow.

>>2648973
That main issue I think that you said it yourself we’re fated to risk death with what we’re doing. And failure, even small ones would be tempting that fate.

>>2648929
On day I will be posting on lefty and 4chan from China in my comfy rural cottage and my VPN. One day.

>>2649011
Besides they all need to lose weight so they can fit into the sleep pods we rent them. Greedy bastards want to live in a 2 room palace!

>>2649017
Even in success you might find yourself on the wrong end of a factional dispute or in a personality conflict with someone else who ends up in a position to jail or kill you. That’s the inherent risk to politics. It is a form of gambling and we should embrace that.

>>2649017
>>2649016
How come people in other countries are willing to die for their beliefs to fight the American Empire but those living in the Imperial Core are too afraid? Is it…that they're afraid of losing their comfortable lives…? Was Iron Felix right…?

>>2649021
I think thats part of it, but a lot of people do want to help genuinely but they either don’t know how or afraid their comfortable lives are as good as it’s gonna get snd dont wanna risk it all on something that might not even work.

>>2649021
>How come people in other countries are willing to die for their beliefs to fight the American Empire
This rarely happens. It's almost always a reaction to their family and friends getting killed while being forced into becoming salve labor and wanting revenge. That's why anti-colonialist "communists" almost always end up capitalist themselves after they beat the foreigners. There rarely was a strong belief in the first place.

The peace prize committee giving the prize to the Venezuelan clown and her just turning around and giving it to the guy who bombed the country is so humiliating for the euros.

>>2649022
It doesn’t help that US jails are among the worst and cruelest in the developed world, that combined with the threat of homelessness does a great job of labor discipline, even more than union busting or the millions of hours of propaganda out there.

>>2649002
MAGA is retarded.

>>2649017
Becoming a communist proper involves coming to terms with the risk of beating, torture, and death. Now that America is going to shit you need to face these facts and muster up some bravery or let others who did lead.

>>2649027
Are you willing to get nazi tattoos and join their gang in prison to survive should you end up there?

>>2649022
I feel like at this point if we don't risk it all things will never get better and anyone can see that just from how politics has gone for the last 30 or 40 years. Nothing in my lifetime has EVER gotten better for the average American since I was born. Shit is FUCKED.

But most Americans are still too hopeful that the issues can be resolved through some peaceful means. They aren't yet at the stage of accepting there is no peaceful route to defeating fascism. Or maybe they just accept that their children and grandchildren will be born into slavery and…don't care for some reason? idk.

>>2649032
To be fair, fertility rates are collapsing, people are expecting this generation to be the last or next to last

>>2649030
I'm against all kinds of body modification, including tattoos. As for the essence of your question: I'd rather die.

>>2649034
Skin grafts for burn victims and hormone therapy for trans are good though

>>2649035
Let's agree to disagree.

>>2649036
Any kind of surgery could be body modification

>>2649032
It depends on the person really, some are itchy for a revolution while others are praying for a peaceful, solution, my guess is we’ll get something like a more volatile velvet revolution like what happened in Ukraine if there is such a revolt.

>>2649024
Kissinger, Obama and Abiy Ahmed have all gotten the peace prize. Fucking worthless.

>>2649040
The main “divide” is urban/rural, it would be like Syria but for the whole continent

>>2649043
That’s kinda why im hoping for a peaceful solution for everything besides the executive branch because our country has fucking nukes and I do not trust people to not be stupid.

>>2649039
Not for aesthetic reasons.

>>2649035
Unless you have actual gender dysphoria i consider the latter to be more of a cosmetic surgery

>>2649044
States in the US are not like republics in the USSR, for all the talk of Californian or Texan secession that gets brought up depending on if there’s D or R in the white house, every state is part of the same fundamental capitalist economy. All connected by rail and the interstate highway system, they already have toll booths, making that a border crossing would fuck up everyone’s money.

>>2649047
Hence why if there had to be a violent revolution, we need to be on a United front, or we’re all fucked.

The only places that would make sense for secession would be Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Alaska, and all the Pacific colonies like Guam or Samoa

>>2649044
I don't think nukes will be much of a factor in a potential civil war unless Stephen Miller gets his hands on them. They're not a particularly useful strategic weapon unless your goal is complete scorched earth tactics, and that seems counterproductive in a civil war taking place on land you ostensibly "own".

>>2649047
People said this same shit about a lot of other places that balkanized but roads and trade mean nothing if two places are culturally/politically separate you can't maintain a union purely on economic ties. Europe was also tied economically for pretty much all of European history but that didn't stop kingdoms and empires from collapsing or splitting throughout history, all that changes for the average prole is who you paid taxes to.

Also I literally just saw on the news today about my state's governor refusing to extradite a Californian to Louisiana to be charged with murder for shipping abortion pills across state lines. They're 100% creating the pretext for invading blue states, the only question is whether blue states will stand up for themselves or just take it up the ass.

>>2649048
It would probably look a lot more like a combined civil/military coup if it was going to ever happen let alone work, at least at first

>>2649052
>>2649051
So what’s actually gonna happen?

>>2649051
We don’t have the ethnic or linguistic base either, Spanish speaking and black Americans are distributed all across the country, often hundreds and thousands of miles away from what would be Aztlan or New Afrika

>everything is gonna crash at once, full civil war, end times, great depression AI bubble burst!
>actually I expect this all to blow over peacefully and things will only get steadily more expensive

We all sound bipolar.

>>2649055
The AI bubble will burst and so will real estate but it’s not going to mean the US dissolves

>>2649055
>>2649059
it will be climate change that will ultimately destroy the great satan. I just dont see how the us will survive that

>>2649060
The issue is climate change is destroying the global south faster, the other possibility is Yellowstone erupting

>>2649060
i still believe in the yellowstone supervolcano eruption

>>2649053
Most likely?
>ICE protests keep going into the summer and eventually election season
>Trump ramps up his threats towards Dem politicians and threatens to cancel elections if they don't "get their cities under control"
>Sometime in October Trump will announce putting ICE at every polling place to "catch illegal voters"
>This eventually turns into a standoff between ICE and Democrats
>Trump invokes the insurrection act to arrest local Dems for "impeding ICE"
>Dems either cuck out and let Trump rig the election or they grow some balls and send their state national guards to protect voters from ICE goons
>We are now finally in the Cool Zone with two different groups of armed thugs at the polls intimidating voters
>Some random Mossad/CIA/FBI falseflag happens with the perpetrator only identified as a lone transgender woman named Jo Antifa
>All hell breaks loose
>America balkanizes overnight as voters from red/blue factions flee to their respective states to avoid being lynched by the other side
>After about 2-3 years of a stalemate the federal government runs out of money because red states don't produce anything of economic value
>Within 2 years of the US balkanizing into 5 different countries Mexico puts up a border wall to keep third worlder Texans from entering their country illegally.

>>2649064
>Trump will announce putting ICE at every polling place to "catch illegal voters"
this is definitely happening

>>2649064
I’ve been looking into the insurrection act and from what I can tell it’s nowhere near as powerful as he’s making it,out to be, he’s def gonna try something like stoping people from going or calling the polls illegitimate, but ultimately things will continue onward. All we can really do is keep fighting and wait and see.

>>2649055
One is true, the other is a stage of grief we call "denial"

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Guys I am nowhere near ready for the USA to resort to outright explicit tyranny or collapse entirely. This shit is stressing me the fuck out.

>>2649066
as usual with Trump the truth is more muddy than he makes it out to be. he's gonna try to say the insurrection act turns the president into a dictator, and dems will be forced to either challenge him on that or accept him as dictator. 70% odds the dems just cuck out and accept him as dictator. but if they don't then they have the option of invoking their national guard troops to defend their states from federal occupation, and it'll turn into a constitutional crisis that the current supreme court is too illegitimate to believably resolve. so at that point it's up to the individual troops to choose whose side they want to die for.

>>2649070
You take more of a risk dying in a car crash every day, just get prepared but don’t worry about it

>>2649070
Suck it up buttercup. Get the lead out!

>>2649070
i kinda wish leftypol or some other online leftists had a platform setup for connecting with eachother offline and exchanging resources. the online left is too fragmented if you don't live in a big city. most of us will fucking starve or be killed by fascists because we have no allies nearby.

>>2649061
>>2649062
>yellowstone eruption
QRD? Is it fizzling or sizzling?

>>2649070
Me too. I don't even see a financial future for me in 10 years. I'm wondering if selling my parent's house would be enough to move to China. Do they even have entry level work for dumb turds like me in China? Please let me in…

>>2649064
don't americans require to show some form of ID when voting anyway? can non-citizens actually voote or is this a meme?

>>2649078
it's the ultimate bubble that dwarfs the AI bubble, the dotcom bubble, and the housing bubble

it's a supervolcanic bubble

dont forget that california is also expected to have a major earth quake in the next 1-50 years

>>2649082
Also we have relatively low turnout

>>2649064
>Sometime in October Trump will announce putting ICE at every polling place to "catch illegal voters"
I'm laughing at you with my very rural voting station where I live which is someone's old lake clubhouse that gets rented out occasionally because the town didn't know where else to put it.

People forget how rural a lot of America is I think. Cities are definitely fucked though.

>>2649077
I hope people get to work on that soon.

>>2649073
Perhaps but I'm nervous for everyone else in the world as well.
>>2649074
I'm trying but life sucks.
>>2649077
I agree a greater exchanging of resources would be beneficial, legal information especially.
>>2649079
Sorry man, things suck but let's try to make them better.

>>2649078
Yellowstone is a nothingburger. The fact that there continious activity and tremors means pressure founds a way to be released instead of mounting up. It had big eruptions in the past but it has literally fizzle out.

>>2649095
>Perhaps but I'm nervous for everyone else in the world as well.
The rest of the world does not need your sympathy or worry. It needs your complete capitulation, tbh. If you really cared you'd know that.

>>2649097
Why would the world need me to capitulate to Western empire?

>>2649097
>It needs your
I hate nationalists

>>2649099
You knew exactly what I meant.

>>2649104
>by addressing you as a responsible citizen of a state I became a "nationalist"
Americans.

>>2649095
List out everything you need, and start going ham getting those needs met. Whatever it takes. Ask, borrow, mooch, steal, beg. I don't give a shit. We live in a new moral landscape.

If you need medication and have no money/insurance, understand that doctors will just give it to you because of their Hippocratic oath. You just have to cause enough of a scene to get it. Exaggerate everything in order to get what you need. If you have to tell them you're going to fucking kill yourself if they don't treat you then so be it.

Get in shape, get a plan, get a passport. Now. Not tomorrow. Now.

Any other questions?

>>2649118
NTA but
1. How are we so sure it’s gonna all collapse?
2. How can we also be sure that where we go, be it China or Europe or whatever the consequences of said fall will not reach us?

>>2649121
It's not going to collapse it's going to be terror for a decade and a half. I'm almost certain. There's something in the air. I'm sorry I just can't explain it any other way because i don't have the time. You don't have to go full hog in all your preparations, but you NEED to be prepared. It's better to be prepared than not.

Also posting this for reasons

>>2649121
also replying to 2.

Almost anywhere else will have a higher chance of rewarding resistance. If you stay here without significant resources and connections, you'll be under the FULL SOVEREIGN WRATH of the fascists. Anywhere else, they at least have to travel some distance to get to you. And at least you'll have the support of the local resistance with their own sovereign military.

>>2649118
>individualist survivalism + self-help industry
Americans.

>>2649129
I was only explaining the first steps you fuckhead. And maybe I should have made it clear, yes they should also reach out and find others to mutually help each other, because it's just rational and exponentially more efficient that way. But either way, your callousness isn't fucking helping.

It actually isn't a bad idea to get a passport now if you can afford it. At bare minimum.

>>2649137
I'm going to apply for one tomorrow

>>2649107
>a responsible citizen of a state
Liberalism. States craft their citizens from birth to fit it's needs. Citizenship itself is a state created category. Citizens don't control states, classes do.

When is China going to fix their fucked up internet though?

Every serious American Communist must learn Spanish immediately

If you don't know spanish already, get the fuck in gear. It's a very very easy language to learn for native english speakers. With the right Anki deck and a few apps to help you, as well as PLENTY OF COMPREHENSIBLE INPUT (look this up), you can become conversationally fluent in 3 months no joke.

There is no excuse not to be learning Spanish. You will be helping those most targeted by the Fascist Regime, and you will be rewarded with the most loyal comradery you've ever felt.
I may be putting together a list of resources soon as a copypasta, similar to the deng scroll, if I get around to it. I already made a lot of progress last year with just an anki flashcard deck, but I know it can be done even faster.
Anyways, as always:
GET THE LEAD OUT

>>2649134
>mutualism
<the individualist's faux-collectivism
Americans.

>>2649118
>If you need medication and have no money/insurance, understand that doctors will just give it to you because of their Hippocratic oath.
lol, what fantasy world do you live in

>>2649149
some doctors will give it to you out of their conscience. But thats the best you get

>>2649139
A citizen enjoys more rights than a non-citizen and is able to change politics unlike non-citizens if grouped together with other citizens of said state. None of this is controversial.

>>2649150
i appreciate that you move the goalposts quite a bit (by using the 'some' qualifier) but it's still wishful thinking, sorry

>>2649152
not the previous anon, im just pointing out that some probably will. its not wishful thinking to point that some decent people do exist

>>2649151
>is able to change politics
Keeeeek

That person is an undersecretary in the Department of State.

>>2649149
Buddy I've done it myself. They will do it and you will have "debt" but it doesn't matter.

>>2649155
>I'm oonable to change the course of pooolitics
<also: vootes for bloo no matter hooo

>>2649160
>>2649155
historically the voters have influenced and changed politics to a degree. For example, I dont think any of the 2016 bourg would have supported trumps extreme tariffs in 2024. Or any of trumps more so extreme actions.

>>2649163
you are correct, and the other anon arguing with you is missing the mark slightly: those are bandaids, but the overall big picture "whale" moving history forward is that the fascist imperialist nature that is the teleological entity of the USA will render electoralism completely ineffectual when required for its continuation, as we are about to see this year.

>>2649165
>USA will render electoralism completely ineffectual when required for its continuation, as we are about to see this year.
grim times ahead

>>2649163
>>2649165
However, paradoxically, we still must attempt elections, even if the most conscious of us understand it will be "futile" as a way to prove to the sections of the masses that are able to comprehend, that we are in a new era.

This paradox is something that the "anti-electoralists" here on leftypol and elsewhere, fail to understand. Lenin lead the masses through a series of trials of which he already knew the futility, in order to allow the masses to learn for themselves through experiential and participatory knowing, what is actually necessary.

>>2649051
That's why Americans are going to be as shocked as Soviets were when things just seemed to fell so fast in a month. The balkanization will show that this country isn't as indivisible as many believe

>>2649151
>A citizen enjoys more rights
That's because the state has spent years molding the citizen and in return it gives small privileges to the compliant. All of which can be taken away at any point. The prison system is designed for this. From the small decisions of choosing what food you eat, to controlling all movement and social interaction up to taking your life.
>is able to change politics
The change is only what is allowed by the ruling class. True they will use votes as a barometer to decide how to react to any potential unease but the citizen is always subject to their control in the end. Voting is a pressure system, not a steering wheel.
>None of this is controversial.
To liberals who buy the propaganda. Of course they have been taught this since birth.

Yanks 'discover' that their country is a raping fascist hellhole every day, one twitter screenshot at a time. And they are always 'shocked'.

>>2648973
Make a Tor hidden service and start franchising terrorist cells, pussy.

>>2649183
Great idea, comrade!

It'll be fine, Trump will do something retarded like invading Mexico, Venezuela, and Colombia all at once and in 5-10 years the military burgers will be so exhausted they'll do a Carnation Revolution.

>>2649179
>That's because the state has spent years molding the citizen and in return it gives small privileges to the compliant. All of which can be taken away at any point. The prison system is designed for this. From the small decisions of choosing what food you eat, to controlling all movement and social interaction up to taking your life.
That's a lot of words to convey this simple message: "As an American I am not liable!"

>The change is only what is allowed by the ruling class.

Untrue. Historically proven wrong. Move along!

>Voting is a pressure system, not a steering wheel.

Voooting is a meaningless act unless you have a strong communist party that does entryism.

>only libs into entryism

uyghur, we are in a thread where the native burger """"""""communists"""""""""" are like 60% DSA/CPUSA members/voters, which is to say DEMOCRAT (=BOURGEOIS) SHILLS, and you dare telling me that you labor aristocrat assholes "can't into better?"

Fuck you, you scum.

The entirety of "American leftist" ideology is about "how to make me appear as a victim," for fucking real.

Step 1: overturn DSA/CPUSA fetishism of vooting bloo nomatter hoo
Step 2: we will talk about that when you've grown up and joined the adult's table!

chapo-trap-house-tier fucking labour aristrocrat subhuman champagne-socialist filth, I swear

>>2649181
>Yanks 'discover' that their country is a raping fascist hellhole every day, one twitter screenshot at a time. And they are always 'shocked'.
They will voote for Kamala, 100%

>>2649179
>The change is only what is allowed by the ruling class.
<I'm a hecking innocent victim in all of this even though I enjoy all the benefits of Empire!
<please, someone tell the "rulers" to give me more gibs, this is unbearable!!

You deserve trillion gulags, tbh

>>2648952
Goddamn gusanos are such cucks

>>2648914
>Someone has to ram the point down the throat of every one of these libs that none of their weasel worded denunciations of ICE count for shit
Well yeah. They're wusses who get scared of ICE, but those ICE agents are scared too. You can see it in their expressions.

>>2649160
Im not american nor do i vote. If you read Marx and Lenin you'd know that the state is a tool of political suppression of one class by another. So just throwing "citizen" out there means nothing

>>2649107
>by addressing you as a responsible citizen of a state I became a "nationalist"
YES RETARD

>>2649240
1. I've been a communist for more than 20 years.
2. I've read more Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. than you did.
3. What I said is in no way in contradiction with what you said.
4. Have a nice day, American.

>>2649240
>when you have a citizenship = NATIONALISM
nobody is safe from nationalism!

>>2648946
The RAF were not the only militant group in Germany in the 1970. The Revolutionary Cells, also known as the after-hour guerilla, provide a more concise route of struggle since they emphasized their members build up front-facing legal personas. What is lost in translation when leftists today look back romantically at the 70s period of struggle is the existence of a robust lumpen underground in the Western World allowing for a greater range of movement. Those sinews were dismantled in the 80s and the legal left today is too cowed to make the jump from protest to resistance. Not to mention the modern surveillance state and NSMP-7 has completely changed the game.

>>2649247
>terroristic adventurism in the Imperial Core
nobody cares, dude.

your attempt was already theoretically debunked like 200 years ago

welcome to 2026, labor aristocrat BITCH

>>2649192
>Untrue. Historically proven wrong. Move along!
Ruling class doesn't give up power because of votes. Violence has always been the way to do it.
>Voooting is a meaningless act
Yes.
>unless you have a strong communist party that does entryism.
??? I never said anything like this.
>and you dare telling me that you labor aristocrat assholes "can't into better?"
I'm just saying they've been brainwashed since birth to think voting does something meaningful and violence is evil.
>>2649196
Blaming the American working class for being slightly better off for Empire is like blaming comfortable house slaves for Slavery. House slaves might have it relatively better than other slaves but they didn't create the slave system, they had been taught to accept it since birth, they could not overthrow it by themselves and despite their extra treats they were ultimately at the mercy of their masters.

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>>2649251
>Ruling class doesn't give up power because of votes. Violence has always been the way to do it.
What KIND of violence, you stupid American? Individualistic, terroristic pseudo-violence? If so, the school shooters of today in America are the fucking vanguard.

>Blaming the American working class for being slightly better off for Empire is like blaming comfortable house slaves for Slavery.

Both are completely valid criticisms, fyi.

>House slaves might have it relatively better than other slaves but they didn't create the slave system

= sure, I was born a labor aristocrat, sure, I enjoy its fruits, but I didn't create the le >system<! Check mate, atheists!

>>2649249
If they only did assassination you would be right. But the idea was to make it part of a larger movement and that role is supposed to be a specialized one that disrupts the capitalist leadership. It's just targeted revolutionary violence. Those groups are supposed to be the snipers that attack officers, not the line infantry.
>>2649253
>Individualistic, terroristic pseudo-violence?
Organized obviously.
>Both are completely valid criticisms
How are house slaves responsible for slavery?
>sure, I was born a labor aristocrat, sure, I enjoy its fruits, but I didn't create the le >system<! Check mate, atheists!
Yeah? Re-saying the point sarcastically doesn't refute anything.

>>2649258
>How are house slaves responsible for slavery?
By becoming integral to the economically exploitative and socially oppressive system and benefiting from it?

Are you like 12?

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>>2649303
Reproducing an exploitative, oppressive and criminal system? Like a worker?

>>2649303
Nat Turner was a house slave

>>2649196
>I'm a hecking innocent victim in all of this even though I enjoy all the benefits of Empire!
Proof that third worldists think in terms of moral ideals and not historical necessity or class interests.

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canucks hate americans more than chinese now

>>2649343
Inshallah these trends will intensify.

>>2649303
>By becoming integral to the economically exploitative and socially oppressive system
Except they were not integral, they were literally a luxury good. They were fully expendable and could be sent to the fields at any point at a whim. Historically when a house slave killed their master it wouldn't end slavery, they would just be publicly tortured and killed by a local militia. The role would then go to a different slave.

>>2649341
The privileges in question are purchasing commodities for a wage as well lmao

>>2649353
One has to wonder if Brazillian proles are integral beneficiaries of the system. After all they've got it so much better than proles in the Congo, and they've never overthrown their bourgeoisie. Coincidence? I think not.

>NEW YORK – Central Intelligence Agency director John Ratcliffe met with Venezuela’s interim leader in Caracas to discuss cooperation, a US official said on Jan 16, in the most senior known visit by a US official since the US toppled President Nicolas Maduro in January.

Mr Ratcliffe met on Jan 15 with Ms Delcy Rodriguez at the direction of President Donald Trump, “to deliver the message that the United States looks forward to an improved working relationship,” the official said.

They discussed intelligence cooperation, economic stability and the need to ensure that Venezuela was no longer a “safe haven for America's adversaries, especially narco-traffickers”.

The visit took place the same day that Venezuela’s opposition leader Maria Corina Machado gave her Nobel Peace Prize medal to Mr Trump at the White House.

Since sending troops to seize Maduro, Washington has held back from saying the opposition should take power, despite having previously said Machado’s ally rightfully won an election in 2024.

Ms Rodriguez, who served as vice president under Maduro, took over the presidency on an interim basis after the US military seized Maduro and flew him to the United States to stand trial for drug charges.

Washington has said she is favourable as an interim leader to preserve stability.

The US official said the two-hour meeting with Mr Ratcliffe was focused on building trust between the US and Venezuela.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/cia-director-ratcliffe-meets-with-venezuelas-rodriguez-in-caracas-nyt-reports

>>2649361
Cia chief met with delcy Rodriguez in Venezuela

>>2649358
We need to find the most oppressed guy on the planet to tell us what he thinks about the matter

>>2649370
Surely he'll tell us that we're all privileged labour aristocrats who need to be sent to the gulag. Socialism will consist of him and him alone.

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>>2649343
>canacucks have the shitlibest opinions
Yeah we know

>>2649386
It was pretty funny listening to Carney walk back all the shrieking he did about China in years past.

>>2649318
>>2649321
>>2649324
>>2649349
American historical revisionists, everyone!

>>2649343
based

>>2649386
in actuality, you are the shitlib resisting the glory of AES

>>2649416
Not an american tho

>>2649416
Nat Turner being a house slave is an indisputable fact

>>2649416
try reading Lenin, it cures this mental retardation you have on display


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