THOUSANDS DEADInter-lumpen war - oddation
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Internationalist Voice (Iranian) analysis of the protests (Jan. 4-19):
>Leftists and the Mujahedin claim that monarchists are attempting to influence the protests in favour of “Reza Pahlavi”[7] by adding audio to video clips, or that this role is being played by the Islamic bourgeoisie itself, which is confident in the harmlessness of the monarchist opposition. In other words, they argue that the promotion of monarchist demands within the protests is either meaningless or marginal. This claim is partly correct, but it does not capture the full reality.
>First and foremost, it should be emphasised that the nature of a movement determines the extent to which it can be exploited or redirected. In an independent workers’ movement, this possibility is considerably low; however, in an “all-together” movement, the scope for reactionary forces to intervene is much greater. Within this framework, a serious question arises: can the statement issued by students at Isfahan University, in which it was asserted that “the 1979 revolution was a historical mistake,” be regarded merely as the result of external manipulation and interference?
>For leftists who, through demagoguery, consider students to be “working-class students,” it is as if students necessarily advance the demands of the working class in every protest. In reality, however, students are not inherently revolutionary; at times, they can play a counter-revolutionary role, and at other times, depending on objective conditions and their connection to the class struggle, they can assume a revolutionary role. To clarify this issue, two specific examples can be cited.
>The student protests of July 1999 arose in response to the closure of the reformist[8] newspaper Salam. These protests served the interests of the reformist faction of the Islamic bourgeoisie, and students became instruments in intra-governmental struggles. Nevertheless, the movement exacted a heavy toll, leaving many dead and injured, and profoundly altered the fate of some of the students.
>In contrast, in autumn 2018, following the widespread workers’ protests, students openly expressed solidarity with the workers’ struggles and placed class demands at the centre of their slogans. By chanting slogans such as “We are the children of workers; we stand with them,” they effectively became integrated into a segment of the workers’ class movement and played a role distinct from that of previous periods.
>When the working class emerges as an independent social class in the course of societal developments, the scope for manoeuvre of not only the right- and left-wing tendencies of capital but also ultra-reactionary bourgeois forces and adventurist elements is sharply reduced. This is because the independent presence of the proletariat exposes the real contradictions of capitalism and prevents protests from being redefined and co-opted within bourgeois, pro-democracy, or imperialist frameworks.
>A clear example of this situation can be seen in the workers’ protests of autumn 2018, a period during which media outlets such as the BBC, Voice of America, Radio Israel, and other bourgeois propaganda instruments were effectively sidelined and lost the ability to influence the protests. Under such conditions, bourgeois tendencies—particularly the hypocritical and liberal tendencies of the Western bourgeoisie—were compelled to be silenced, as the language, perspective, and demands of these protests could not serve their class interests.
>The shameful Islamic bourgeoisie has plunged into one of the deepest crises in its disgraceful history, and consolidating itself is not so easy. To demonstrate its power and to pretend it has a social base, the Islamic bourgeoisie issued a call for marches in all cities on 11 January. This call was an overt attempt to stir public sentiment and to draw people into a government-organised demonstration.
>On 11 January 2026, the state broadcaster aired a report from the Kahrizak forensic centre showing scenes of corpses in a large warehouse. The Islamic bourgeoisie claimed that these bodies belonged to individuals who had been harmed by “rioters” during the protests, but the main purpose was to stir public sentiment and garner support for the government. The report displayed photographs of the corpses and the names of the deceased on a screen, while grieving families were mourning and identifying their loved ones. Interestingly, these same images are circulated by Western media as victims of the Islamic bourgeoisie’s crimes. The state broadcaster also aired footage of government-supporting demonstrations, particularly in the cities of Ilam and Hamedan—areas where protests against the regime had been more widespread than elsewhere.
>The war between Iran and Israel is not the result of decisions made by warmongering leaders but it is the expression of the capitalist system today. Regardless of the political façade a state adopts—be it democratic or dictatorial, peace-seeking or openly militaristic—they all share one fundamental trait: sacrificing the working class as cannon fodder in imperialist wars. Without exception, they are all war criminals.https://www.internationalistvoice.org/Recent reports from the streets by Worker-Communist Party of Iran (Hekmatist) translated from Farsi (Jan. 7-13)
>The Iranian people do not need a military attack by American bombers, nor do they need international criminals to intensify sanctions and attack their livelihoods for freedom, prosperity, and equality, to be free from the clutches of the Islamic Republic. Lifting sanctions, preventing a military attack on Iran, and cutting off the hands of international criminals from their lives and struggles is the demand of tens of millions of people in Iran and the demand of their freedom-seeking movement.
>After two weeks of protests in Iran and their spread to various cities, the Islamic Republic has taken extensive measures against the protesting people under the pretext and relying on Mossad’s claims of its interference. The Internet shutdown in Iran, the arrival of the army to confront the protesting people and the loss of a large number of protesters and deprived people, threats to government leaders from the Supreme Leader’s Office to the judiciary and widespread arrests, attacks on hospitals and house-to-house raids, and all-out propaganda by the state media and attributing the protests to the people’s rights to Mossad, introducing every protester as a Mossad spy and their agents, have created serious dangers.
>The Islamic Republic has in common with the fascist governments of Israel and America and their pawns in the opposition, pushing back this movement and blinding its radical and freedom-loving horizon. One is by ordering an “uprising” and turning the protests into street fighting and terrorizing it, and the other is by suppressing them under the pretext of Mossad’s interference and confronting it!
>To Communists: come to the streets to prevent the protests from turning into bloodshed and to ensure their progress!
>Marginal forces whose efforts to ride the wave of protests have failed and do not have the social power to divert mass protests have officially today set the policy of bloodletting in the protests to their agenda by launching mercenary and armed gangs against their opponents, declaring an armed uprising, and prematurely bringing weapons to the field in the protests. These forces, along with the apparatus of repression and the internal gangs of the Islamic Republic, are the ones who are responsible for bloodletting in the protests and the lives of the people.
>The Rajavi sect has issued an order for an armed uprising and the capture of military bases. It is as if the "rebel centers" of the Mujahideen are going to "liberate the cities and then hand them over to the local councils"!
>There is no doubt that this heavily armed regime will ultimately be overthrown in an armed uprising. There is no doubt that the people who rise up and protest have the right to use any means and weapons to defend themselves and defeat the enemy. But sending young people to war prematurely is deliberately taking them to the slaughterhouse and mass protests.
>The movement and uprising of the hungry is going its own way and, independent of the small and large insects of reaction, with vigilance and open eyes, it is organizing, uniting and nationwide its protest and struggle, protecting its activists and leaders, and building its own future. Ensuring this is the work of us communists, the work of radical and freedom-loving activists.https://hekmatist[dot]com/fa/Unconditional support to Iranian workers as they face the full savagery of capital on the local and international fronts.
NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR So the attempted regime change failed?
>>2657965It may be that the US and its allies attempted to meddle with the protests, calling it a regime change attempt is an overstatement due to the lack of a basis for Iran's realignment to the west and ability to affect Iranian politics to the extent that it would be successful. Even if hypothetically a color revolution took place and Iran's regime was overthrown by a more liberal bourgeois regime, it couldn't result in the same outcome as the color revolutions in Eastern Europe, ie. NATO expansion or something of the like. So instead what we are likely to see is more protests that end up being put down by brute force until the economic instability makes the civilian regime unable to pay the military enough that they'll be willing to keep doing it.
>>2658069'comrades on the ground'
fuck off, you saw one (1) graffiti on a random wall and you went ape shit
is the arak soviet still arming
as we speak?
>>2658075i know who you are
>>2658077i don't think you do
Thousands died. What has changed?
>>2659342Still ongoing? They need to end already
>>2657958<liberal on liberal violence>what about muh zionismIts liberalism.
>>2659520And those US-funded NGOs are named Khamenei
US Push to Topple Iran Serves Global Push for Primacy
<The targeting of Iran is just one part of a global-spanning US foreign policy objective. Just as the US has eliminated Iranian allies across the region to isolate Iran itself, the US is attacking, degrading, and eliminating Chinese partners around the globe to isolate China.
>I've written another article for Beijing Review. It's titled US push to topple Iran serves global push for primacy. Now, I previously did an article and video about the US attack on Iran. That's exactly what what this has all been another attack on Iran by proxy, but an attack nonetheless. And I talked about the importance of securing information space, not just in Iran, but all around the globe. Because if you don't, the US is going to continue doing this to Iran and they're going to continue threatening all nations with these consequences until nations sufficiently secure themselves against this threat. This article, I want to talk about the big picture and how the war on Iran is a war on multipolarism. You remember some people out there telling me, especially me, telling me, Brian, you're wrong. The you're you're bent out of shape over the US attacking Venezuela. All this proves is that the US is carving out its own sphere of influence. They're going to let Russia and China carve out their own sphere of influence and we'll all live happily ever after. You're an alarmist. You think that the US is at war with the entire world. It's simply not true. Well, here we have evidence right in front of our eyes that even as the US is carving out its own little sphere of influence in in the Western Hemisphere, which it also has no right to do and no justification for doing, it's still attacking Iran halfway around the world, in the Middle East. It's still attacking Russia through its proxy war in Ukraine, in Eastern Europe. It is still attacking China by backing militants, destroying Belt and Road Initiative infrastructure here in Southeast Asia. is still stationing tens of thousands of US troops closer to China than to America's own shore. So this this is a war on multipolarism and it is only supercharging. Attacking Venezuela was part of it. It was not a retreat to the Western Hemisphere. It is part of a global war on multipolarism the US is waging. So let me read through this article. As always I will give you additional information when if necessary and I will show you all of the sources that I cited while writing this article[…]
>References: BBC - 'There wasn't even time for CPR': Iran medics describe hospitals overwhelmed with dead and injured protesters (Jan. 11, 2026):
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9rengvnp9oNYT - Trump Is Briefed on Options for Striking Iran as Protests Continue (Jan. 10, 2026):
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/politics/trump-iran-strikes.htmlBrookings Institution - Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy toward Iran (PDF, 2009):
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdfNew Yorker - The Redirection (2007):
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirectionNYT - The Separation: Inside the Unraveling U.S.-Ukraine Partnership (Dec. 30, 2025):
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/12/30/world/europe/ukraine-war-us-russia.htmlBBC - How US Marines are being reshaped for China threat (Feb. 2023):
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64294915ABC (Australia) - Rise in violence against Chinese nationals in Pakistan threatens China's 'Silk Road' vision (Oct. 2024):
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-21/rise-in-violence-against-chinese-nationals-in-pakistan/104487244Irrawaddy - Myanmar Junta Abandons Chinese Pipeline Amid Resistance Attacks (May 2025):
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/war-against-the-junta/myanmar-junta-abandons-chinese-pipeline-amid-resistance-attacks.htmlUS State Department - Foreign Terrorist Organizations:
https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/ >>2660074No takes that neoliberal Russian rag seriously
You might as well have been spamming the CNN those past threads. Sry anon someone had to tell you
>>2660633yeah notice how they've started calling it genocide in recnt days after the wind went out of the protets
>>2660633>tankiesPretty sure it was neoliberal Islamists, close but not quite.
>>2660633The word genocide has lost all meaning. What even differentiates a genocide from a Holocaust btw
>>2660750you mean zionists
>>2660750Capitalists killing workers
More news at 9
Arak soviet status?
still arming as we speak?
>>2667521All the big talk "pro worker" anons forgot about the Arak Soviet, they abandoned them. If only they had denounced the IRI harder!
Interestingly, this same pattern happened with Nepal and Indonesia, one of them even also had a supposed soviet or council or whatever that they were mouthwatering over, ultroid anons get super uppity about other people stating the obvious, then quietly resign when the obvious happens.
>>2667525>Interestingly, this same pattern happened with Nepal and Indonesia, one of them even also had a supposed soviet or council or whatever that they were mouthwatering over, ultroid anons get super uppity about other people stating the obvious, then quietly resign when the obvious happens.it has happened with every single one of these events going back to Libya in 2011 where there were articles from communist parties in the West criticising the tyrant Gaddafi while gushing over people's councils and revolutionary militias. same thing with Syria etc… at some point you have to question if the people are constantly falling for the same trick or theres something else going on.
>>2667532I think mostly they're just suckers, but yeah you never know
>>2667548>muh r/ultraleft memenah
>>2667548Did the Arak Soviet even exist beyond one (1) twitter statement and one (1) graffiti on a random wall?
I'm no longer in my home country boys has iran collapsed yet? Are the workers in Arak still fighting the good fight?
>>2667555The Arak Galactic Soviet is colonizing Alpha Centauri as we speak
>>2667565Good to know anon, you doing good? I haven't gone outside for two consecutive days because there's nothing appealing here
>>2658069>pic Why is this so trve?
ICP says nothing will come out of it.
>>2667556>predominantly KurdishCIA front
Rest in Piss to all the islamist cops that died
Turkey’s Foreign Ministry told the country’s parliament that it was preparing to create a buffer zone over the Iranian border if the regime in Tehran falls, according to the Turkiye daily.
Ankara fears a wave of refugees heading toward Iran, and diplomats briefed lawmakers that “we are making preparations for all eventualities, with our A, B, and C plans. We believe there should be a buffer zone to ensure that those who arrive in the event of a migration remain on the Iranian side.”
Turkey currently maintains a buffer zone in northern Syria.
“After the Syrian civil war, Turkey was forced to open its doors to millions of refugees, and integrating them into both society and the economy proved to be a very painful process,” says Hay Eytan Cohen Yanarocak of the Moshe Dayan Center. “Erdoğan was accused for years of failing to stop the waves of migration. It now appears that, in light of the lessons learned from Syria, border security will be kept tight this time.”
https://archive.is/m4vbU#selection-1007.0-1027.426Time for the west to join forces with the IRGC and turn the prole massacre into genocide
>>2667775>I just want to destroy america, everything else is secondary.Based
>>2667784It's not moralism.
It's the truth.
Countries on the receiving end of america are weak/passive.
Put me in charge of Russia and the fucking US constitution would be vaporized in a plethora of nuclear fires.
America was founded on the bullshit idea that the shareholder is a sacred cow.
Well, I killed that sacred cow.
I support the IRGC in destroying american influece in Iran.
I support the mexican drug cartels to poison and massacre americans.
I hate americans and their stupid fucking country.
They are like ancient Athens with bickering called "democracy".
Yes democracy for slave owners and grifters like Patrick Bet Valuetainment and every single other fucking grifter.
America has no statehood or nationality.
It is not a real country.
It has no real citizens.
I am Alexander the Greater and I will massacre the Thebes of America. I will burn it to the ground and will leave no House of Pindar or landmark left. Total Burgerreich Death.
And I will destroy you for "muh moralism".
Faggot.
>>2667775how can a communist support the Ayatollah's theocracy
Lenin is rolling in his mausoleum
>>2667814Because America is worse for communism than the ayathollahs.
The ayatollahs can really easily implement communism in PRACTICE.
If a progressive american president were to do the same, the military would just kill him right away and that's the best case scenario.
Iran can easily become communist because it has centralized authoritarianism.
America cannot because its inherently feudalist (decentralized authoritarianism).
America will devolve into fascist feudalism faster than a fake leftist like Bernie can become governor of vermont.
America has been fighting communism since the 1890's.
Fuck you disaporoid.
America goes into the trash and then we talk about communism in Iran.
>>2667866Take the L and move on, maybe the next color revolution will give us communism
>>2667857>Communist Pragmatism is liberalismThe absolute state of this board.
Why are people simping for an islamic theocracy massacring its citizens again?
>>2667970We are owning the libs this way.
>>2667970The lesser evil liberals have to kill workers or the greater evil liberals take control
>>2667791>>2667806Hoes mad. Islamist cops died. Life's good.
>>2668061I don't want to live under Islamism.
I want YOU to live under Islamism.
>>2668091You're already livin under liberals doe
>>266809121, can you do some for me
>In the West, a certain "nationalist left" has from the outset downplayed the street clashes as the result of a conspiracy, a covert manoeuvre by the CIA and Mossad. In reality, today as yesterday, even without the incitement of any secret service, countless demonstrators, many of whom have been arrested and killed, are protesting for better living conditions and spontaneously hate a regime that starves them, represses them, and eliminates all forms of civil and trade union rights. Promoting the interests of a bourgeoisie that hides behind Islamic priests and uses its own working class as cannon fodder as ’popular resistance’ or ’anti-imperialist’ reveals the nature and position of parties that are entirely internal to the needs, conflicts, and wars of bourgeois States, Stalinist and ex-Stalinist parties and currents that not only have nothing to do with communism but are not even an expression of the working class, imprisoning and subjugating its immediate and historical interests in the lie of ’national reality’. Regional powers are linked to this or that imperialist superpower. They are also in competition among themselves, but in any case hostile to their respective working classes, starved, exploited, and massacred.
>>2660115> that neoliberal Russian rag ??
**Note: When stuff in Iran goes down, my natural inclination is to avoid doing content and stay above the fray, at least until the media hysteria dies down. Not the best way to run a media project, I know, but I just have a hard time with all the breathless coverage–BREAKING!!!–and don't really want to feed it. Even then, I am still Iranian, and if people ask me to record during these times, my cultural programming compels me to accept the invitation.
This episode of @FREDSHETSARNA with Mehmet and Erik was recorded last Friday as I was travelling for work and at the end of a busy, emotional day. The scale of what had just transpired in Iran was becoming clear to me that morning in between working on the footage I had recorded the day earlier, itself an intense and emotional experience for entirely different, non-Iran-related reasons.
All of this is to say that by the time I recorded with these guys that afternoon, I was feeling pretty loopy. You can kinda hear it at the beginning of the episode when I had the giggles and infected everyone else with them! I have no idea how I come off in this episode (too lazy to check it too, sorry), and I was reluctant to even post to this feed!! In my memory, I was exceptionally wandering in my rants. Maybe I'm wrong and it's the same Sini as usual. IDK.**
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"Listen to the Iranians" they kept saying.
Well, we give you Sina Rahmani, the indomitable host of @eastpodcast and producer of countless other anti-imperialist shows.
We talk about the events in Iran which have been one-sidedly and sensationally presented in the west. In the background the Empire and the Ethno-state have their fingers dirty.
So why is Iran such an important target for the Empire and what does it mean to be sovereign?
We discuss some of the contents of the imperial toolbox and factors leading up to the protests. Economic pressure with sanctions and currency manipulation, smuggling of Starlink units and weapons to foment violent riots and the media machinery.
We discuss the Shah and his son, the clown-prince in exile, Iranian diaspora, support for Palestine and what the destruction of the Iranian state would mean to people in the area.
While the battle may be over the war might just have begun. The peoples and states in the crosshairs of a dying empire will keep being demonised. If they resist they are authoritarian, if they open up they’ll be vulnerable. What the future holds and what the way forward to avoid a devastating war is unknown.
Early in the episode Sina reads a testimony from his friend Navid Zarinnal, who is living in Teheran. He hosts a podcast on imperialism called The Colony Archive, which we highly recommend.
Please note that we had some technical difficulties in the beginning, that led to a lot of chaos and laughter. Big thanks to Sina for being such a joyful human being even in these difficult times.
The genocide in Gaza continues. We urge you to support the Palestinians in these very dire times by donating:
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>>2668706>listen to IraniansI do.
Not on this orientalist national socdem podcast doe
>>2668280I prefer this simple explanation to the convoluted mental gymnastics we see here.
>>2660750this is israeli misinfo. 30k died in the first year of gaza, probably more because the health ministry shut down almost immediately. the other lie I've seen uses "first week" but hamas put down entire battalions of idf so the first week after oct 7 was spent trying to rally reservists to catch small detachments of skirmishers deep behind the israeli lines.
>>2668730Peak copester retort
ogre
>>2668726It is the same analysis provided by Iranian communists, read the OP.
>>2668771And who provided this one?
>>2668730USAID is gone, ultra. I do it for the love of the game.
>>2668711Its obvious that Iranian government represents theocratic islamism but what do protesters represent? Liberalism? Certainly more progressive but not making me jumping out of joy.
>what about muh 300 000 dead bodiesSounds like atrocity propaganda.
>>2668779the post you're replying to was posted when deaths were estimated to be hundreds, since then the ayatollah came out to state that thousands were killed. Forgive the Iranian guy for having some emotional reaction to that fact.
>but muh geopol Arak soviet status?
>>2668280>the ICP calling out the western leftlel based westoids labor aristocRATS malding
Geopolitics is bourgeois politics
>An X Premium Organizations Full Access monthly tier subscription is $1,000/month (plus any applicable tax and fees)
Cuckmenei alone has 12 accounts with gray marks, not counting his lapdogs. That's thousands of dollars in revenue that Musk promised to share with Israel kek
>>2668998>2006Can time fucking chill?
>>2669023sorry pops it's a zoomer world now
>>2668998>fake blondeNo takebacksies
>>2668971>>2668890there are no leftcoms outside of reddit and other shitholes for terminally online losers stop coping
>>2669326and the five orgs in the OP
>>2669362In the Arak Soviet we sign this after the Internationale and Hatikvah
>>2669362>originalwhen was it adopted
>>2668769wow it really is youtube fanclub beef for you
>>2668796why? whats bourgeois about it?
>>2669695Famous YouTuber drama between Mahdi Amel and Edward Said uploaded in the year of our lord 1979
>>2669698Stalin considered it pseudoscience western degeneracy (trvke)
>>2669698>>2669719Geopolitics back then meant geographic determinism Dugin-style. Now it just means power relations between countries, which is something that the Soviets obviously analyzed and participated in without calling it geopolitics.
It's very similar to how people say that the Soviets "banned cybernetics" because in the 1950s cybernetics meant proto-techbro theories about how computers should run society, and not just "computer stuff". The Soviets had cybernetic facilities since Stalin's time but didn't call them "cybernetics" since that term was way more specific and ideologically marred back then.
>>2660633>he never watched squid gamespresident xi, the people of taiwan and south korea are suffering under capitalism. will you answer the call?
>>2668711>>2668769Glory to the mighty leftcom empire of the USA
>>2668711what is this guy smoking? it's always been critical support for iran over fascist israel and slaver saudi. does he believe that regime change is going to improve the lives of iranians? I can guarantee that in the event the government is toppled iran will become hell on earth just like libya did.
>>2669791nuh uh the Arak Soviet will take over and usher really existing communism you orientalist islamist socdem
>>2669794of course. a paper thin leftist veneer over a color revolution. am I to forget…
> the petit bourgeois and reactionaries that started these protests?> the political insignificance of Arak?> the regional powers that instigated and intend to profit from the turmoil?> the west already using "left anarchists" in propaganda to legitimize the fascist junta in ukraine?constant idealism, never even lip service paid to realistic outcomes. this thread is cancer.
Arak Soviet status?
>>2669791Iran offered Israel normalization in 2003 and already normalised with based third worldist saudi arabia
Get with the program chud
>>2669864The Arak soviet normalised relations with islamic bullets.
>>2669871Nationalised by the Arak Soviet.
>>2669825Islamist cops died, life's good
>>2669866all those in favor of normalizing shooting hypersonics at israel say aye
>>2669719>considered itconsidered what? why?
dont just dogmatically repeat slogans. what are people engaging in in this thread that is considered geopolitics? is that the same thing stalin referred to?
>>2669718I dont think they wanted Iran to be enslaved by Exxon Mobile.
>>2669979oh so 100% of the revenue currently goes to foreign corporations and iran uses none of it for self defense and development?
im not seeing any references to that in your link
>>2669981No, it's more like post 2003 Iraq where oil extraction is handed to foreign contractors who take a cut for each barrel.
>>2669987are you sure? it doesn't say that in the link. and in iraq the us reduced production to increase profits for domestic fracking. is that what the protesters want?
>>2670004Yes, they want to turn their neoliberal shithole into a launching pad for international revolution and nationalize their resources and industry see jpg
>>2669979 >>2670004Also see OP and previous OPs for Iranian communist orgs
>>2670007>into a launching pad for international revolution huh? it doesn't say that
>>2670010>OP and previous OPs for Iranian communist orgsbut those are not communist or not iranian
>>2670017Oh I see you're blind.
Hopefully praying to allah patch you up
>>2670052you can make things up if you want but that doesn't mean people have to believe you
nothi personal kafiroid
TaKBiRRRR
>>2670885>>US envoy to Iraq gave militias 1 year to 'disband' proof?
>>2670901i think it unlikely trump will physically invade iran. if we've seen anything this past year is that drumpf only sends in troops when he's assured they can overwhelm enemy defenses and minimize danger to us soldiers.
The problem with Iran is that it's already a neoliberal country with Chinese, Russian and Euro contractors operating the oil fields.
Now if it was sealed shut from the rest of the world like 90s Iraq then you'd find China and Russia the first to support the invasion.
>>2670630Arak Soviet status?
>>2670632comon this time I want some real fight and a carrier sunk. Its literally the best way to expose the US as the paper tiger it is.
Why is Iran claiming it will conduct exercise in the sea of Oman when US military already claim they crossed it?
Do you hope to trap them in the gulf? Cut off support?
>>2671066iran is doing the tried and tested AES strategy of eating shit and committing suicide
>>2671051>Its literally the best way to expose the US as the paper tiger it is.you people do not live in reality, iran can't even take out israel what makes you think it even has a shadow of a chance against the US?
>>2673461>iran can't even take out israelIt has never tried.
Bro thinks Iranian bourgeoisie and cucktollah has an interest in glasing Israel and having his ass nuked
>>2673527Infrastructure failure
Burgerreich murderwave visited on Iran today or nah?
>>2669784Yes, the AES state of the thousand pound burgerreich will crush the revisionist bourgeois islamists!
US reconnaissance plane spotted flying near Iranian airspace
A source from the air traffic control agency told the Russian TASS news agency that a Boeing P-8 Poseidon anti-submarine and anti-drone aircraft was spotted flying near Iranian airspace.
The source recalled that the plane was spotted in the skies of the Arabian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman near Iranian airspace at an altitude of 6,000 meters.
According to reports, the aircraft has the high capability to monitor large areas on land and sea and carries out reconnaissance missions between 10 and 15 times a day.
This move came at a time when there was a possibility of a US military coup against Iran.
>>2673612The US is AES because it brought avthentic Islamists to power doebeit
>>2673675The US installing reactionary regimes? Gee that sounds evil. If only there were some sort of non liberal idealist way to support the US' strategic enemies. Oh well, who wants some lasagna?
>>2674245>non liberal idealist way Glad we are in agreement that campism is idealist, but you're wrong in asserting that supporting liberal shitholes isn't liberalism.
>>2674279>campism is idealistYes, only my ideologically pure, theoretical faction is non idealist!
>>2674375>2 hours later negotiators get blown up fool me once…
fool me twice…
surely even if the regime change does suck american toes any change is better than the theocratic state right now and ultimatly didnt the aytollahs back stab the workers and socialist movemetns ive know more than a few iranians whos fathers were part of the youth soviet movements and then almost purged after the revolution. if the shah does take power wouldnt it be in his best interest to give a general amnesty for ppl who were wronged by the islamic regime
>>2660750why do you think Iranians hate Gazans? Its because the IR government constantly justify repression and militarism of society on saving Palestine (never mind that Iran rarely actually did this). Iranians literally viewed Palestine the same way you Americans viewed Israel; a nebulous state used as a cover for foreign militarism while the citizens rot inside the country
>>2660750>persiansgusano persians? of f. course.
>>2675318no, actual Iranians too. Westoids here who do not actually know anyone living in Iran has no idea, no fucking idea, how much hatred is there in the street against religion, the system, anti imperialism, the revolutionary guards, all of it. Anyone who is not part of the 20% Islamist support pillar to the government hates everything about it. This is the end result of the 20 years of degeneration under Khomeini
>>2675313>why do you think Iranians hate Gazans?Shia Sunni
>>2675313>why do you think Iranians hate Gazans? because they're zionist and ape whatever western right wingers say is bad or based
>>2675313>why do you think Iranians hate Gazansthey dont
>>2675312>just sprinkle some liberalism onto my regime change please!Anyone want some lasagna?
Kill the zionist traitors
>>2667970Denounce the Talmud
>>2677355What does the Talmud have to do with anything? Has G-d cursed your brain to be this tiny?
>>2677358Denounce it then, and denounce the jewish supremacist terror state while you're at it.
>After this massacre, the political scene and atmosphere in Iran have changed forever. A society that is still mourning its lost loved ones, angrily seeks a way to escape this Islamic calamity, seeks a way to resist the efforts of the entire reactionary movement, from the Islamic Republic to the US government and their puppets, to impose despair upon itself.
>In this climate, the United States has threatened to intervene ’in favour of the demonstrators’, but it is not easy to understand whether they will opt for regime change, as happened, with the roles reversed, in 1979 against the pro-Western Shah Reza Pahlavi, or for a change within the framework of the theocratic regime, preserving it, as appears to have happened with regard to the so-called Bolivarian regime in Venezuela, as both are considered the best at playing the role of gendarme against the proletariat.
Why isn't there a single Iranian commie shitting on Islamists with me here? And ones on /pol/ are all libtards
Are AYRANians genetically reactionary?
An Iranian drone approaching an American aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Oman was shot down by the US Navy, it was announced. According to US media, Iran attempted to seize a US tanker in the Strait of Hormuz. The seizure attempt was prevented by US warships.
According to a report by Reuters, the US shot down an Iranian drone that was approaching an American aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Oman.
Arak Soviet status?
>>2678987Gangbanging your mom
>Oil prices jump on report that plans for U.S.-Iran nuclear talks are collapsinghttps://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/04/oil-prices-jump-on-report-us-iran-nuclear-talks-are-collapsing.htmlsome reports that talks are failing. US wants to negotiate limitations to iran's ballistic program while Iran wants to strictly deal with nuclear.
strikes could be back on the menu.
>>2678994arak soviet status
as we speal?
>>2680337This has been fact checked by the Arak Soviet:
✅ TRUE
>>2680337>western shitholeRemember when I posted Iranians carrying red flags in Germany and everyone got a stick up their ass?
Don't post stuff from diaspora no one cares
>>2680345<shit i imaginedfuck off schizo.
>westard third worldist interacts with third worlder the results may shock you!
>>2680775you are black mould
>>2680837
its because this site is full of liberals who view anything slightly anti-us as a substitute for the working class
>>2680837
>Mossad/US sponsored regime change color revolution op is le wholesome working class revolution against evil theocratic/bourgeois/islamist/authoritarian/dictatorships
How many times are you guys gonna fall for it? When will enough be enough?
>Beheading thousands
Lmfao, bro get real
>>2680837
Next your gonna talk about Freeing Tibet
>>2680865>mossad>ciaProofs?
Hard mode: the proofs can't be mere claims >>2680871Come up with a less retarded cope
>>2680873You actually think the Mossad and US are not involved? Israelis admit it openly, they don't even need to hide it lol
>the proofs can't be mere claimsThat's rich coming from someone who just baselessly claimed thousands of protestors were beheaded
>>2680405The tudeh party is headed in Germany
>>2680865>How many times are you guys gonna fall for it?fall for what? their dollar became worthless and the state itself admitted to slaughtering thousands when they protested
i legit do not understand how you people don't just commit suicide, you people should be forced to wear safety helmets as if it were a crown
>>2680889>fall for what?Supporting the interests of the American empire dummy
>>2680892taking that line to its logical conclusion means that the working class should never ever revolt out of fear that another nation will take advantage
kill yourself lib
>>2680893>Imagining a completely different argument means Im right!No it doesn't dumdum
>>2680894no that is what you are saying, other nations naturally take advantage of unrest in their rivals, taking that reality as justification for doing nothing and being obedient to the state is completely servile
>>2680895>no that is what you are saying, other nations naturally take advantage of unrest in their rivalNo, it's not. Im not talking about some vague abstract of "other nations", I am talking about the US, its global empire and its direct opponent. You can try to extrapolate it to some universal maxim, but that's simply you coping and not being able to engage my argument on its own grounds.
>justification for doing nothing and being obedient to the state is completely servileIm not being servile to my state at all. Its representatives and agents, like you, are watering at the mouth at the thought of the iranian regime being overthrown
>>2680899>Im not being servile to my state at alli said THE state, the bourgeois state which includes the islamic republic, you are standing by it out of fear that any rebellion will help the us, that is servile, why exactly should the iranian working class continue to eat shit just to placate your own feelings on geopolitics?
>>2680902>i said THE state, the bourgeois state which includes the islamic republicI don't care about your abstractions. The iranian regime is not this universal bourgeois state, regime change in iran doesn't meaningfully effect this universal bourgeois state. In fact, it could only strengthen this THE state, by weakening opposition to US hegemony.
>why exactly should the iranian working class continue to eat shit just to placate your own feelings on geopolitics?I have literally no control over what the Iranian working class does retard. I simply don't agree with the sentiment that the current Iranian regime should be replaced by a liberal pro western one. Which, I mean, if you think there's any other outcome to toppling the IRI, you're beyond retarded.
>>2680913>I don't care about your abstractionsnot an abstraction
> The iranian regime is not this universal bourgeois statethe rianian state is a theocratic state that kills more of their citizens than they kill israelis
> In fact, it could only strengthen this THE state, by weakening opposition to US hegemony. lmao what opposition? it has lost in literally every single theatre of conflict against the us and its allies
>I simply don't agree with the sentiment that the current Iranian regime should be replaced by a liberal pro western one. Which, I mean, if you think there's any other outcome to toppling the IRI, you're beyond retarded.then you're not a communist and you should just join the DSA
>>2680881There is footage of the protesters' corpses, numbering at the very least in hundreds, with eyewitness reports from iran to corroborate. There's no proof given by the Iranian government that foreign intelligence agencies were involved in the way they were claiming (ie. releasing the crowd for attempted regime change) during the protests. They would release it, if they had any. I'm not saying we know for sure they are not involved in any capacity. However, Iran experiences these protests once every 2 years, and each time they crush them to the tune of hundreds of casualties, so you can fuck off with all the endless apologea for the IRGC.
>>2680930< The iranian regime is not this universal bourgeois state>the rianian state is a theocratic state that kills more of their citizens than they kill israelis Wild non sequitur lol. How is that related to weakening THE state through iranian regime change? Another israeli/US ally in the ME will facilitate this somehow?
>lmao what opposition? it has lost in literally every single theatre of conflict against the us and its allies Just because the US empire is the most lethal and strongest reactionary force in history and resistance against it is largely an uphill battle of unimaginable proportions, doesn't mean that opposition towards it is simply meaningless or worth discarding in favor of the interests of the US ruling class
>then you're not a communist and you should just join the DSAWhat else is there to say? You're just retarded. Keep dreaming about the Arak Soviet my friend, it must be fun in lalaland
>>2680962>Keep dreaming about the Arak Soviet my friend, it must be fun in lalalandthe liberal sees the working class as powerless hopeless but thinks the islamic republic, who's money is worth literally nothing and who's biggest opposition is unarmed protesters has even a shadow of a chance against the united states
lmao
>>2680957None of that is proof that "thousands were beheaded", a claim like that is pure atrocity propaganda
> There's no proof givenExcept that the israelis freely admit and have admitted for years that they have deeply infiltrated Iran at various levels. It is very naïve to assume they wouldn't use any opportunity to facilitate regime change in Iran, as they have been advocating for for years.
> once every 2 years, and each time they crush them to the tune of hundreds of casualties, so you can fuck off with all the endless apologea for the IRGCYeah I don't think it's flawless dog. I just think regime change facilitates US/Israeli/Saudi interests in the region and it would be a total clusterfuck. That's not apologia sorry
>>2680965Yeah bruh a liberal ally to the united states will be a much better fit lol, then they'll really do some damage
>>2680775I'll just double down.
Your 4 dudes deserved it.
Unlimited Third World Revenge!
>>2680771>random woman talkingwow everything she says must be correct and verifiable
>>2680968Saudi or US-aligned regime change is not a likely result here. In part because the US is not seriously interested in including Iran in its sphere of influence because it doesn't have a means to vassalize Iran, or even keep it in check. Iran is a nation of 90 million with modern military capacity, which means that the US is not realistically able to intervene without ruining its economy and destabilizing its own society. If the United States truly wanted to include Iran in its sphere of influence, it would have continued the Obama policy of detente and bilateral agreements to lower tension. They would have happily become a second Saudi Arabia or an Egypt. So an attempt to usurp the leadership of Iran to further US interests is not going on here. It's just standard destabilization attempts at most, which hardens the IRGC's rule more than anything. What we're witnessing in Iran is the simultaneous collapse of capitalism (at least in its present shape) and the government with nothing to replace it. This is why talking about these protests as a creation of the CIA and Mossad is ridiculous.
>>2681030>What we're witnessing in Iran is the simultaneous collapse of capitalism (at least in its present shape) and the government with nothing to replace itFinally someone who nails it in the head. The sanctions have de facto ended the existence of modern (or at least post mercantile) capitalism in Iran, but unlike in N Korea or Cuba the disintegration of the IR gov's functionality means that there is nothing to replace that. Whatever remains of the Iranian government at this point is just a patronage network for at most 20% of the population while the rest of Iran basically lives in an anarchic, precarious way of live. I do not doubt that Mossad played a role in the protests, but the idea that this is not a fertile ground for organic dissatisfaction is ridiculous
>>2681030>Saudi or US-aligned regime change is not a likely result hereIf the regime falls it is far more likely than anything else. There is already a huge operation in place to facilitate it, elements of the american ruling class have been pushing for it for years. I mean it's all right there and like you said, there's nothing inside Iran to replace the current government. The only remaining force of any capacity will be US alignment/western liberalism
Yeah Iranians deserve real anti imperialism (anti capitalism)
Sorry socialism with war on terror characteristics bros :/
>>2681038>the Iranian government at this point is just a patronage network for at most 20% of the population while the rest of Iran basically lives in an anarchic, precarious way of livehilarious, you guys are completely delusional
Anti-imperialist imperialist negotiations status?
>>2682296wtf bros I thought Qatar was wholesome 100 hamas iran acksis ally?
>>2680990you sit your ass and listen, chud!
Arak soviet status as we speak?
IRGC when unarmed protesters
>MULTINATIONAL JIHAAAAAAAAD!!!!
IRGC when literal US imperialists
>oh allah we are weak…
Resistance through US deals status?
>>2683854Thank you. I'm convinced now.
Total IRGC genocide of Iranian proles
>>2683872look how much damage these freaks have done to places like latin america.
>>2670901Don't think the U.S. really wants a war because Iran has a lot more ballistic missiles within range of U.S. bases than it does the bigger ones which can reach Israel, and there just isn't enough air defense. The U.S. fired off something like 1/4 of its THAAD interceptor stockpile in the last round.
>>2683913Iranian missiles killed whooping three (3) USA troops in the past decade, which includes ultra super serious operations like Qatar bombing and Soleimani retaliation.
Anyway the real reason the US doesn't want to overthrow the IRGC (yet) because it is the perfect attack dog for capitalists to subdue workers in the region. The US didn't fire a single bullet to defend its oil contractors in Iraq for the past decade because militias are there to do that job for them. Same with IMF austerity in Lebanon and its guardian Hezbollah.
is this still hapening i thot the protest was over last month
Wtf is revolutionary guard?
>>2686354AES anti-imperialist warriors
>>2687444Imagine if this shit happened in burgerstan. You would have 841295814 threads talking about le brave right wing millionaire hero who did it
shame class struggle doesn't exist in exist in the global south (browns = same) and this is all le mossad psyop
>>2686333Good riddance. Iran should hang every protestor.
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) >>2660653>What even differentiates a genocide from a Holocaust btw A holocaust isn't a term in use by anybody, it refers specifically to history.
>>2687563>(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)<not bannedcringe jannoids
>>2687780Holocaust means literally "burnt offering".
>>2687762You oink as imperialist swine. Islamic People's Democratic Dictatorship destroyed monopolist profits and bring prosperity to people
>>2687844why would the ultras do this?
>>2683913>Don't think the U.S. really wants a war because Iran has a lot more ballistic missiles within range of U.S. basesAnother thing for multipolarists to consider is this:
USA probably doesn't really have a vested interest in eliminating all its enemies–just clipping their wings enough while they are still scary.
Trump's foreign policy is mostly to take advantage of US allies because he knows US allies won't abandon US protection so long as the enemies are there, and Trump wants to negotiate with the enemies even–this helps with US expansion and solidifying US control over its vassal states.
Nothing is more useful to subjugating your vassals than fear of an enemy.What would NATO be without fear of Russia? Or fear of European countries breaking into world wars without US hegemony?
What would US protection of the Sunni Gulf Monarchies be without fear of the Revolutionary Republican Anti-Monarchy Islamic Shia sect of Iran?
What would South Korea and Japan be without fear of China?
USA right now is calling to capture Greenland, because of fear that China or Russia might take it later and offset NATO security.
In my experience, when defeat and the approach of an enemy is extremely close, people are willing to give so much–that is why war propaganda is so effective.
Plato:>If this fear had not possessed them, they would never had met the enemy or defended their temples and sepulchres and their country, and everything that was near and dear to them, as they did; but little by little they would have been all scattered and dispersed.Xenophon Cyropaedia>But none the less Cyrus was able so to penetrate the vast extent of the countries by the sheer terror of his personality that the inhabitants were prostate before him.Thomas Hobbes>That men who choose their Sovereign, do it for fear of one another, and not of him whom they institute: But in this case, they subject themselves, to him they are afraid of. In both cases they do it they do it for fear. Unique IPs: 89