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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

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>>2670890
We've been through this. If Trump delivered during the last energy ceasefire, we wouldn't have seen articles like

https://www.rt.com/russia/615136-peskov-energy-ceasefire-violations/

>US ignoring Ukraine’s energy ceasefire violations – Kremlin
>Washington is ignoring Kiev’s violations of a US-mediated moratorium on attacks against energy infrastructure in the conflict with Russia, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said.
>Last month, US President Donald Trump successfully urged Russian President Vladimir Putin to pause strikes on energy sites. While Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky publicly endorsed the moratorium, the Russian Defense Ministry has reported attacks against Russian infrastructure since the agreement was announced on March 18.

>Cucktin got something, but you can't see it. It's there, though.
The absolute state of Cucktin apologetics lelelele

>>2670893
Okay but I doubt the deal from the US is that Ukraine will uphold the ceasefire, they can't enforce that and won't look weak by trying and failing to

>>2670896
you know what else you can't see? Tomahawks in Ukraine

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yo, the ruble is now pre-2022 values.

>>2670877
>Ukraine cannot demand to be admitted to the bloc by a certain date
hahahaha laaaawl.
not even the givas EU membership after depleting their manpower.

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>>2670852
bravo putin

>>2670903
>not even the givas EU membership
Didn't they just get a another 90 billion from EU? It was a "loan", but I guess we all know what loans really mean when given to a already debt loaded, destroyed, bankrupt country.

>>2670899
It shows that the deal last time was that Ukraine would uphold the ceasefire. Ukraine didn't, and Trump didn't care. So what makes Trump trustworthy? If they really got an invisible benefit this time, then I hope they got a "down payment" from Trump so they don't have to go whine about being fooled… Yet. Again.

Using my sources, I've been able to find out what Trump offered Putin in return.
Trump has created a new cryptocurrency called BrooklynBridge and has invited Putin to get in on the ground floor before it explodes.

Would Putin fall for a 411 scam? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

>>2670910
Conjecture, you can't make a deal where an uninvolved third-party is one honouring it, while Trump ignoring Ukraine breaking the ceasefire is obviously going to happen because the entire west ignores everything unsavoury that Ukraine does, that's not something unique to Trump and it's because the west is basically powerless to ensure some Azovite with an artillery gun won't contradict them anyway.

But at the end of the day, that's what cucktinists are reduced to, just endlessly mincing over their own uncharitable interpretations of statements made by a fairly generic government.

>>2670910
>Trump/Americans can't be trusted
The fact is that unless Russia wants to fight to the Atlantic to secure it's western border long term, then deal about European security architecture is a must. The Europeans can't agree shit because there is no power to enforce, or sovereignty here, plus they can't come into an agreement about anything substantive even amongst themselves. They have to talk to the ringmaster of the circus, not to the animals. It just can't be a deal that relies on US or Europeans keeping their word or have goodwill towards Russia, because that for most certainly has never been there. A deal must give Russia a position to twist their hand if US or Europeans step out of line, even against the interest of European interests, but a deal there must be.

They can't just say Trump to go fuck himself and cut him off over something that doesn't ultimately matter, like Kiev babushkas freezing or not freezing this week or the next or a month from now. If Russia wants nato off it's ass it will have to hammer out a deal with the US. Or will anybody expect that negotiating with the balts or poles over american bases is a path to a deal? Russia might as well send the tanks and drones.

>>2670930
>Conjecture
It's a pretty straightforward inference that if the Kremlin is whining to Trump about Ukraine breaking the energy ceasefire, then Trump offered the energy ceasefire as a bilateral ceasefire and not a unilateral one.

>>2670943
>you can't make a deal where an uninvolved third-party is one honouring it

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>>2670620
It's over for Ukraine!!!

>>2670947
You're coping hard right now. Do you know what "conjecture" means? This is not a conjecture:
>It shows that the deal last time was that Ukraine would uphold the ceasefire. Ukraine didn't, and Trump didn't care.

>>2670792
funny thing is that you cant even cope that some proles are freezing since cucktin just delivered another truce

>>2670834
>cucktinists have always framed the conflict as easy

It's always shit like "Putin could win right now, if only he chose to."

>>2670951
The point is that Russia has opened a new front in a direction that was pretty much untouched in 4 years, retard

>>2670959
As opposed to pretending that Putin couldn't do in 2022 to the power grid what he's doing now…
Stay mad.

>>2670960

So make me a prognosis. Will they manage to advance even like 10 kilometers in or they will get bogged down there?

>>2670958
Did almighty ukrainians manage to magically repair their infrastructure in less than 24 hours or something? All I am seeing is that they still have liquid shit pouring out of their windows while generators are exploding from overuse without any Russian help

>>2670845
>600,000 have fled Kiev in one month
18-20 million left all of Ukraine in the first year of the war, so what makes this golden 600,000 so essential?

>and Zelensky is nervously offering to stop his refinery and tanker PR spectacles because he knows if those NPP substations are popped, it's all over for his government.

The same NPP his government has tried to destroy in the past? Those NPPs?

>>2670963
What's there to be mad about? I'm not the one so topped by events that I'm turning myself into knots because daddy Putin isn't fighting the war how I think he should.

>>2670971
>The same NPP his government has tried to destroy in the past? Those NPPs?
Ukros shelled Zap NPP.

>>2670975
But you are tying yourself into knots by making fun of "Putin could win right now, if only he chose to," when it's clear that Putin could have chosen to do in 2022 what he's doing now. So, yes, it is about choice to a large degree.

>>2670981
>Putin could have chosen to do in 2022 what he's doing now
he could not

>>2670956
>just endlessly mincing over their own uncharitable interpretations of statements made by a fairly generic government.

The problem with this conjecture based on what Russia says and what the US doesn't say, is that it always fits the same mold, very keen to propagate the
>Russia said they tried to do the right thing and Ukraine exploited it
part, while conveniently leaving out the context that explains
>that's why Russia says they're not negotiating a ceasefire and the death and destruction in Ukraine is their own desire

And this has been going on for years with you lot, any day now Russia is going to sign a unilateral ceasefire where they leave two oblasts and agree to be sitting ducks in the other two for Ukraine to shell them for decades until Russians go extinct beCaUsE RuSSia iS EasIlY TrICked! THeY SaID sO thEmSelVes!

>>2670984
he could have killed more Ukrainian civilians… Could not have won the war though.

>>2670986
>Just ignore Russia saying that Trump promised a bilateral energy ceasefire that Ukraine would follow. Just ignore the Russian complaints to Trump that Ukraine wasn't following the ceasefire. Once you've ignored that, it's complete conjecture that Trump's offer was a bilateral energy ceasefire! .
I swear sometimes you overcorrect in response to the cuck posting and go into la-la land. Have a good night/day.

>>2670735
>NATO wanted to isolate Russia and make them a pariah whom no one will trade with, engage in diplomacy with, include in grand globalist orgs, etc and they've failed at that also.

There's also this. Russia has resisted sanctions in large part thanks to its major trading partners ignoring the sanctions. That's a pretty big deal, and imo that factor gets intentionally overlooked alot. Every deficiency is blamed on some personal failing of Putin's, and never looked at through the lens of the fact that BRICS isn't a military alliance, its support is conditional, and they've repeatedly stated that their goal is accommodation with the west and not confronting or replacing it.

>>2670986
>"The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it."
he he he

>>2671004
>>2670995
The article also mentions
>Trump threatened stricter sanctions on Russia if progress cannot be made in peace negotiations and if he considers Moscow to be at fault.
so apparently the deal was agreeing to a ceasefire was part of a deal concerning US sanctions

Like why even bother trying to argue with me? No one ever succeeds.

so apparently agreeing to a ceasefire was part of a deal concerning US sanctions*

>>2671014
he he, you're all over the map. what are you even arguing at this point? that what russia got in return was no sanctions that we know to be completely ineffective anyway?

https://www.rt.com/russia/614918-kiev-cannot-control-military-kremlin/
>The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill [LOL!] to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it.

yikes

>>2671028
That the conjecture was that the ceasefire was the entire deal, not just Russia's half of the deal. The article this conjecture based on disagrees with that conjecture with
>Trump threatened stricter sanctions on Russia if progress cannot be made in peace negotiations and if he considers Moscow to be at fault.
particularly nice is the
>if he considers Moscow to be at fault.
Ukraine obviously breaches the ceasefire and now based on the deal Moscow cannot be at fault, it's a deal Russia couldn't lose with, which likely explains
>even if Kiev fails to honor it.

Just give it up lad, my intellect is too big, you can't even see it. It's like the Earth, you can't see the curves because of the scale, you're a flat-earther, a ChampSoc denier.

>>2671042
>Last Sunday, Trump expressed his frustration with Putin during a phone call with NBC News, criticizing the Russian leader’s recent comments in which he questioned Zelensky’s legitimacy. Trump threatened stricter sanctions on Russia if progress cannot be made in peace negotiations and if he considers Moscow to be at fault.

this article is from april 2. the energy ceasefire deal was made march 18. there's no proof that you're justified in back-fitting trump's chimpouts about sanctions into the march 18 deal that was presented as an energy moratorium. if anything, that's what we can call a conjecture.

it's also an odd piece of cope because the sanctions are completely ineffective, so why you're presenting sanction restraint as a benefit for russia is bizarre.

https://www.rt.com/russia/614918-kiev-cannot-control-military-kremlin/
>The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill [LOL!] to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it.

I mean, what's the argument here? that the kremlin didn't behave like a cuck because, even though ukraine broke the ceasefire agreement, at least trump didn't drop some completely ineffective sanctions?

he he he, you crazy boy

>>2671067
It's over, that the ceasefire was the entire deal was conjecture.

>>2671074
you haven't established otherwise.
you're just assuming that trump's chimpout about sanctions had anything to do with the energy ceasefire agreement. it's a desperate way of explaining how cucked

https://www.rt.com/russia/614918-kiev-cannot-control-military-kremlin/
>The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill [LOL!] to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it.

undeniably is, by saying "hey, russia DID get something: no completely ineffective sanctions!"

wew

File: 1769720499146.mp4 (23.59 MB, 852x480, 2023.mp4)

Footage of one of the 2023 summer offensive.
UAF throwing ~110,000 troops, 1,500 tanks, and 5,000 APCs.
note the names and the patches they use.

>>2670958
>>2670958
>you cant even cope that some proles are freezing since cucktin just delivered another truce
>implying the damage done can be reverted in 30 days.
insane cuckpe.

>>2671097
Not enough damage. Kiev has 40% electricity availability. Russia needs to hit the NPP substations. It did one of the Rivne ones, and then suddenly everything halted. Now we know why.

If Agent Z were prez of Russia, those NPP subs would be obliterated by now.
And that's why I have Agent Z pics in my gooning collection and not Putin pics.
Agent Z has no time for Christcuck sentimentality.
Agent Z uses all the tools his begging efforts give him.

ANALYSIS: Casualty Figures Reveal Game-Changing Impact of Drones on Ukrainian Battlefield

>An article in the independent Russian news site Inside Stories, published on Tuesday, shows the reality of that assertion. It says that as much as 75% of Moscow’s battlefield casualties, along with considerable destruction of its heavy weapons systems, have been caused by Ukrainian attack drones.

>It cites statistics published in the March issue of the Russian Ministry of Defense’s Military Medical Journal. The document is based on interviews with more than 6,000 wounded servicemen. In addition, it found that around 20% were injured by artillery strikes, with only 4% injured by small arms fire.

https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/49712

So can we extrapolate that we actually have close to 75% of all killed/wounded russians on tape, since there is potentially always video available on drone kills and Ukrainians and nafoites love gore and love to post and brag about it.

So we get: 

Total_dead_n__wounded_russians_in_smo = (total_ukr_drone_gore - ukr_ai_slop_n_fakes - videos_they_don't_post) * 4/3


We should get numbers of fallen and wounded russians at least in the same ballpark?

>>2671087
The dates you've raised are all very close, it's grasping at straws to suggest that quote from Trump is not representative of the US side in weeks or perhaps even months of negotiations with Russia.

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>>2671145
it could be two days apart. it doesn't mean anything. you're just assuming trump offered them "energy ceasefire from ukraine + no useless sanctions" as opposed to just "energy ceasefire from ukraine." no useless sanctions is not enough to remove the abject cuckoldry of

https://www.rt.com/russia/614918-kiev-cannot-control-military-kremlin/
>The Kremlin then said that it intended to maintain the 30-day partial ceasefire as a gesture of goodwill [LOL!] to Washington, even if Kiev fails to honor it.

I'm so bored with your dumb sanctions argument that…… as a gesture of goodwill he he…… I'd like to make it stronger by proposing that instead of getting no toothless sanctions, russia got something like goodwill domestically or among the global south or some such…… this is why I miss intbrig… he would've gone for that instead of your lame pumping up of toothless sanctions

>>2671150
The fact you're continually trying to refocus this on how mid you think the actual deal was demonstrates you know how little water your coping about dates holds.

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