>the rightoids are calling for an increase in violence
>the liberals are calling for more peace, civility, trust in institutions and VOOOting
>nihilists suddenly show up to tell everyone that everything is doomed, nothing is happening and nothing can be done
If all 3 previous conditions are met then there's a 100% chance that things are indeed happening and its now you duty as a communist to take advantage of the momentum in any way you can. Thanks for reading.
160 posts and 21 image replies omitted.>>2667287And yet the chapter quoted states that the value of labour is determined by those commodities necessary for its continued reproduction, as defined historically.
Houses, being much like any other commodity, fall into that category of bundle of commodities.
You are conflating home ownership with asset speculation and rents, whereby the petite bourgeoisie sustain themselves through the parasitic extraction of surplus value by an entitlement to part of that wage, through the use of homes merely on the basis of their exchange value.
A worker may still be propertyless and own a home.
>>2667296There’s no party to join, there’s not even a union
>>2667298A proletarian has no access to credit, literally everyone in the first world has credit cards mailed to them every week, if you own a home you can borrow against its value and equity
>>2667298So workers home property is not actually a property?
>>2667297I’m that guy and I’m right, I know because I live in the first world
>>2667298>propertyless depends on what you do with your propertybelieving individual choices affect your class position is such a rarted humanism reading of marx 💔
there isnt hard lines in marxism bc its not sociology but in most cases owning a house and not having to pay rent puts you miles ahead of workers who dont. for starters, you dont have to worry about ending up in the streets if you lose your job
>>2667305>investing for a better return is proletarianare you a dengist?
>>2667305The bourgeois are in debt literally all the time
>Are you saying the petite bourgeoisie don't have credit cards
>>2667307I can see your bait coming ahead of time like I'm reading the fucking matrix
>>2667298>petite bourgeoisie sustain themselves through the parasitic extraction of surplus value by an entitlement to part of that wage, through the use of homes merely on the basis of their exchange value.If i repair shoes of others at my home for money i am not proletariat but bourgeois
>>2667307another reason sayings like "living paycheck to paycheck" are absolutely useless bc i could be a CEO and waste all my money on funko pops and still fit that phrase
>>2667311stop being a fucking baby lol
>>2667313just bc youre freelancing
>>2667313>If i repair shoes of others at my home for money i am not proletariat but bourgeoisif you do it for a LIVING then yes. as a JOB. its like calling someone doodling for fun an artist. you know communism is about work, right?
>>2667315Yeah so you agree then.
>>2667315I thought communism was about how we get out of work, out of the rat race. Why would people die for it otherwise?
>>2667315And what if i do it as a side hustle?
>>2667317Some people just want to shoot themselves
>>2667317In communism work will be lifes primary want
>>2667319Suicidal sure, but wouldn’t all this politics crap qualify more for suicide by cop? Shooting yourself is usually a private affair
>>2667320If that’s the case I am a huge anticommunist, Nazi even
>>2667298Houses are not necessary for restoring energy
>>2667317it makes no sense to bring up hobbies when the context is wage work
>>2667318how is a side hustle not work
>>2667323Have you ever tried sleeping outside? Not in tent or a cave, but actually outside
>>2667323ill tell that the next homeless person sleeping on a bench i see
>>2667325>>2667328Cant they sleep inside factory barracks?
>>2667325>>2667328Ok it was dumb post.
>>2667329Have you been to a modern factory? The only place to sit is on the forklift
>>2667331Thank you for your honesty
>>2667332No i dont work at factory. Factory work is hard you know.
>>2667334I work in a factory, it’s not hard, you’re babysitting machines and waiting for management to leave so you can drug yourself silly
>>2667336Really? Idk, the only plant here is metallurgy plant with manly proles working inside. They are bigger than average worker.
>>2667338They’re all drinking or on their phones gambling on the job, at least the night shifts are
>>2667341Nah, they work in 3 shifts and they are always near the hot furnaces. The work never stops
>>2667341Very few people who come stay there.
>>2667343I am one of these people, i work second shift, it’s not that serious, I’m almost never busy
>>2667347Yeah you work in steel plant with steel converters or something i remeber you.
>>2667349*oxygen converters.
>>2667347Well the big manly men took a look at me and said that i will not make it. They dont want people who will quit shortly after.
>>2667349I work furnaces in a steel wire plant, I don’t know what a steel converter is
>>2667356Guess i mistook you for someone else. Anyway, in that plant many people quit and few stay. A workforce elite of sorts works there.
>>2667356Guess you have high endurances and can tolerate the heat
>>2667359Here’s the really fucked up part, furnaces in steel wire factories don’t cast their heat very far at all, you have to basically be touching it to feel it’s warmth, the machines that draw wire (as in shave it to make it smaller and increase tensile strength), all electric mind you, generate and cast more heat.
>>2667361Must be induction furnaces then. They use electromagnetic induction to create an electric current and heat in metall. But i am just guessing
>>2667363Ours have hydrogen and nitrogen pipes that go into them, it’s either that or tanks full of Argon for particular alloys which are high tensile strength
>'Real Proletarian' rhetoric which implies a large percentage of wage workers are not proletarians is banned - per modocracy vote passed on 2024-12-25
>>2667382Mods aren’t automatically right just because they say so, are CEOs and cops proletarian?
>>2667385amerilards still doing the "we are the 99%!" bullshit in 20 fucking 26 apparently lmao
>>2667385CEOs is a job not a class. COP is a job not a class.
Unique IPs: 7