The Japanese lower house election is underway, and all early reports indicate an overwhelming majority for the new prime minister, Sanae Takaichi. I guess just making your platform hating China works, especially if every poll shows youth support for her is in the 90%
121 posts and 14 image replies omitted.>>2685613That doesn't change the fact a socialist Japan would need a military.
>>2685615You can't just adopt the old military for your new state. A socialist state must build up a wholly new military, even if individuals from the old military may or may not join it.
Japan will become fascist once more. It has carefully maintained the institutions of fascism (mainly the Imperial family, and make no mistake in modern "democracies" this is the only purpose of keeping monarchies around even if they say it's only as symbolic ceremonial) in order to maintain a background level of nationalistic fervor based on stupid symbolic things such as flag, anthem, and religion, as is done in many other countries, and therefore facilitate a transition back into a first conservative and then fascistic regime. Japan will be a USAnian puppet and their forward operating base in their war with China over dominance of the South China Sea.
>>2685550Corbyn being anti nuke is both objectively rational and not that unpopular.
What you just remember is that Trident is not a military weapon, it is a nonsensical ego booster. France has an independent nuclear deterrent, which is a valid policy to hold, but Britain gets US made missiles (usually the ones that don't work!) and as such is so dependent on US goodwill that it may as well stop having them and rely on their strategic geography (as Iceland does) to outsource their defence to the US, or at least outsource their nuclear deterrence in this fashion.
Germany and Italy and Spain all do fine without nukes. France has nukes, but they are French nukes and France once withdrew from NATO. Britain on the other hand pays the price for maintaining a nuclear deterrent (far less impressive conventional forces on paper than Japan despite basically the same defense budget) without any of the strategic advantages it brings (they basically just pay for a mechanically unreliable bonus for 200 American nukes, they would never be used without US approval and certainly wouldn't be used to deter US aggression. A socialist Britain would lose Trident faster than it lost capitalism!)
>>2685683Japan has literally always been fascist, from the very first landing of Yamato people, it’s a settler colony just like Israel and America
>>2685695If you don't have nukes you are inherently vulnerable to external aggression. Nuclear states are (ultimately) immune to external attack.
>>2685736India Pakistan wars say hi
japanese turn out is so low. barely above 50%
pretty interesting how so many firstie democracies have turnouts that are just as low or lower than african democracies that are always mocked in the international press
>>2685755It’s almost like democracy is a fake fucking concept we should get rid of
>>2685750India and Pakistan have only skirmished, they have not actually tried to destroy each other. That's why I said *ultimately*. You can attack a nuclear power, sure, but only until they decide to whip out their nukes, which they will if you threaten their existence.
>>2685756We get it dude, you want to be a dictator, you wanna be the new Stalin, but how about, uh, no and fuck off?
>>2685773While that anon may be a little overstating the case, there is no denying that post-WWII liberal democracies are hardly democratic whatsoever, and whatever democracy they had has been totally hollowed out over the last 40 years.
>>2685820Liberal democracy is actually existing democracy and it fucking sucks, so fuck democracy period
>>2685820>it wasnt REAL democracy, democracy is when good vibes only!!kys radlib
>>2685827rare leftypol trvke
>>2685828We have election threads all the time stupid newfag
>>2685327That had no effect on the election at all
>>2685609Unironically the DPRK would nuke Japan before they even got one nuke and ROK will mutually agree
Wasn't the new PM campaigning on repealing Article 9? Isn't that a good thing for Multipolarism? Like yes they're fascists but a Japan with its own military and independence from the US is a better situation globally than a Japan that is just effectively a US military base. China can at least negotiate with an independent Japan while a US-vassalized Japan is totally off limits.
>>2685993I personally couldn't care less about having article 9 or not but
1) Article 9 isn't going to be repealed until at least the next Upper House election
2) Takaichi's dream of an offensive Japanese military is one wholly integrated in the US defensive plans. Basically, think less of a Japanese military without US bases and more of a Japanese military doing the toilet cleaning at US bases in the Philippines.
>>2669530>americans leftSorry, what?!
>>2686125>LDP takes allShocker
>>2685993Mate they are literally glazing Trump. There is no independent Japan. The only good Japan is a nuked one.
>>2685609You support a fascist Japan over a socialist China. Retard.
>>2685736If you have your own nukes this is true. If, hypothetically, France were to invade Britain, America could well veto British use of Trident but it could not veto France. That is to say, America could leave Britain to her fate.
An independent deterrent must be independent in order to deter. (Though frankly the whole theory of deterrence is looking increasingly ropey. "Actually it was the norm against territorial conquest that kept comparative peace" is looking more and more plausible, particularly when India and Pakistan go at it…)
>>2671481I had a 19yo Japanese girlfriend who told me Chinese were buying land to build military bases in Japan, South Koreans belive they are Jesus, and rape and murder are Kurdish culture.
Most Japanese youth are right-wing. The propaganda and censorship in Japan are very strong. Japanese SNS is cancer, full of right wing echo chambers
>The LDP actually won enough votes to win 330 seats; however, due to so few district candidates from the LDP losing, it did not have enough candidates to fill its seats in the proportional tier. The LDP therefore forfeited 14 seats to other parties, including 6 in the Southern Kantō block, 5 in the Tokyo block, 2 in the Hokuriku-Shin'etsu block, and 1 in the Chūgoku block. These 14 seats went to the CRA (6), DPFP (2), Ishin (2), Team Mirai (2), Sanseitō (1), and Reiwa Shinsegumi (1). Meanwhile, Team Mirai forfeited two seats in the Kinki block, as its district candidates did not cross the 10% eligibility threshold to be elected from the proportional tier; these two seats went to the CRA and Ishin.
wow
>>2686803what the actual fuck lmao
>>2686489I'm guessing they are just butt madd they are losing cultural relevance to china.
>>2686803Explain this to me like I don't understand Japanese parliamentary procedure.
>>2686821This is something that can happen in all (closed) party list systems and their derivatives. I mean there is nothing to explain here really. Roughly speaking the LDP didn't register enough candidates to correspond to their proportional election results and virtually all their candidates got elected where they met certain thresholds.
Like if there is an election for a parliament that has 100 seats and you are running a list with only 30 candidates even if you win 50% of the vote you can only fill 30 seats and not 50. That's what happened here.
>>2685834>it wasnt REAL democracy, democracy is when good vibes only!!How are you reading that into my post?
>>2685827I agree. But these systems more or less functioned at one point, and they don't anymore. Like all systems they live or die by the economic period they are in. When the economy was prosperous, they were stable, when the economy is not they become unstable and authoritarian.
But to play devil's advocate, did the USSR work went the going got tough economically in the late 1980s? Not exactly.
>>2686803How is this possible?
Do you just vote for a party and not a candidate, then the party fills the seat with internal candidates?
>>2687006 (me)
>>2686829(Sorry I have burger brain)
wth is team mirai? wiki pake doesn't say anything about its positions other than e-democracy whatever that is
>>2687031weird party heavily based on pro AI stuff
>>2686829why can't they just get more ppl to fill those seats? seems like a weird rule to have
>>2687031>what if democracy was computers? >what if AI could solve all our problems? >what if reality is a big computer simulation? >we should invest everything in the current tech bubble and then AI will solve literally all our problems!- that, is in essense the entire politics of team mirai. and yet they got more seats than the entire left.
>>2687077Because recruiting randos that haven't been vetted by your political establishment is worse than giving the opposition seats, especially when you already have a supermajority.
>>2687077>>2687011>>2687006Btw, this happened to Sinn Fein as well during the last Irish election. In short Japan has a mixed system but yes the during the proportional part you do indeed vote for a party/party list. Putting up candidates is a lengthy and bureaucratic process, within the party org and with the authorities, so you don't put up randos. Also a Japan specific reason is that Japan has these extremely high fees to compete in elections as mechanism of political surpression so that forces parties to be somewhat strategical.
Except for the JCP which tries to run candidates everywhere, pays up the fees and doesn't even accept public financial campaign subsidies from the government because they run one of the most successful newspapers in the country.
>>2687144Why hasn’t JCP been able to leverage their media success into electoral success?
>>2687147The JCP has some core support groups like the teachers unions that religiously subscribe to the newspaper but that's the problem. It's a boomer party. Ironically despite being pretty progressive on many issues, the JCP is considered to be conservative party because it is perceived to represent an 'old politics' also you have to understand that is basically constantly being harassed by Japanese glowies and surveillanced, to the point where whenever they cooperate with moderate parties they freak the fuck out when they are also suddenly finding cameras.
Japan has like most Western countries a very monopolized mediasphere and the 'Red Flag' is considered to be newspaper that says it how it is. For this reason it is very popular among Western embassy staff (and glowies) to keep up with Japanese domestic politics.
While it's true that the average Nipponese normie is cattle who keeps voooting for the LDP every time, that still doesn't excuse the leftoids there from the fact that they're still hippies stuck in the 1960s. Completely out-of-touch.
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