Materialist analysis of celebrities engaging in activism?
Recently, we’ve seen notable celebrities like Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo speak out against Trump and ICE. Their social media profiles are full of anti-ICE sentiment. Billie has also spoken out against billionaires despite being rich herself. So what’s going on here? Is there any chance that celebrities like Billie and Olivia can hold radical leftist political views? A lot of celebrities and musicians were involved in the 60s New Left, by comparison. Are we seeing a rebirth of this?
57 posts and 5 image replies omitted.>”no one is illegal on stolen land”
Kek, literally Tumblr circa 2015.
>>2676877the concept of "stolen land" is like the epitome of radlibbery lol can only analyze property through a moral lens
>>2676877>>2676881I think people with this position are at least at the meniscus of being correct:
- They understand that the forcible seizure of that land was both legal and against conventional morals
- meaning the law is not always aligned with morals and should not be considered the tome from which morality is drawn from
- meaning the law and morality are distinct concepts
- meaning there is nothing immoral about criticizing the government
- meaning a government that does not change in response to valid criticism might be misaligned with the interests of the people criticizing it, but rather the class running it.
(Assuming they don't just blame joos or gnomes or the Irish at this step)- meaning the people may have a vested interest in revolting against the bourgeois government and establishing a government of the proletariat.
>>2675247Does she regret her association with either of them?
completely pointless virtue signaling. Middle america doesnt care about a bunch of rapists and coke heads that didnt graduate high school lecturing them about politics and morality. In fact it had the opposite effect they want
>>2677167To be fair, she has brand deals and contracts that she can’t simply quit.
>>2676071Can we stream this song a lot so it charts on Billboard?
My guess is that a lot of them are in pretty bad and restrictive contracts that fuck them over, they live in a gilded cage. Like apparently while the opposite end of the spectrum but Sydney Sweeny is apparently quite deep in debt apparently?
>Recently, we’ve seen notable celebrities like Billie Eilish
Her brother is literally a personal friend of Hasan.
zionists smeared MJ right before he was gonna speak out about Palestine
Looks like the Grammys had its “Syriza moment” this year.
>>2678041Isn’t Finneas also friends with Zohran?
>>2678103He's alluded to that on IG, yes.
>>2672491homies here want to ape trump populism so bad. they want to call every wealthy lefty a hypocrite. mother fucker there would be no marxism without engels literally spitting coins into marx's coinpurse like he was feeding a baby bird.
>materialistit's a sign that left consciousness is approaching the mainstream.
>>2677167>materialistconsumer boycotts rarely eventuate. in this act she gets to have her cake and eat it. still shockingly based way to use her platform.
>>2672506pretty based
>>2672491Their business is literally being talked about. A big part of a celebrity's job, or the wagies who run their public image, is PR.
That's the beginning and the end of it. IDK what you expect? Some sort of idealist explanation like the "Fourth State"?
No, it is bullshit and the fact that celebrities have ended up in that place while "journalism" barely exists outside TV talking heads and endless social media psyops is no good indication either. It just means that the money commanding that PR is even less transparent, because you cannot so easily look up who owns the celebrity.
>>2678428>consumer boycotts rarely eventuate. in this act she gets to have her cake and eat it. still shockingly based way to use her platform.Garden-variety Democrats were also showing support for the strike. Means nothing.
>>2678428omg why are amerilards so fucking retarded and why do they have to compare everything to their shitty fucking country holy shit
>trump populism>they want to call every wealthy lefty a hypocritethis might shock you bc you clearly are an illiterate moron but communism rejects class collaborationism
>it's a sign that left consciousness is approaching the mainstreamlmfaooooooo consciousness in communism isnt about "beliefs" you mongoloid
<comparing some braindead celebrity doing the most milquetoast mainstream talking points to engelskill yourself LMFAO
>>2672491>>2678443Also not that activism is even desirable. This piece could use some work but I think it's a good model for understanding why "activism" is awful for the communist movement.
> Once within the gang (or any type of business) the individual is tied to it by all the psychological dependencies of capitalist society. If he shows any capacities they are exploited immediately without the individual having had a chance to master the "theory" that he has accepted. In exchange, he is given a position in the ruling clique, he is made a petty leader. If he fails to show capacities, an exchange takes place all the same; between his admission to the gang and his duty to diffuse its position. Even in those groups that want to escape the social givens, the gang mechanism nevertheless tends to prevail because of the different degrees of theoretical development among the members who make up the grouping. The inability to confront theoretical questions independently leads the individual to take refuge behind the authority of another member, who becomes, objectively, a leader, or behind the group entity, which becomes a gang. In his relations with people outside the group the individual uses his membership to exclude others and to differentiate himself from them, if only – in the final analysis – so as to guard himself against recognition of his own theoretical weaknesses. To belong in order to exclude, that is the internal dynamic of the gang; which is founded on an opposition, admitted or not, between the exterior and the interior of the group. Even an informal group deteriorates into a political racket, the classic case of theory becoming ideology.https://www.marxists.org/archive/camatte/capcom/on-org.htm >>2678444>>2678443>>2678441mindbroken and obsessed by and with americans
>>2678441not american, and importantly not a virgin. every time these celebs make a statement like this all the girls I know ask me about it and I tell them about the theories of sakai and fanon because post-colonial maoist third worldism is objectively the best strain of marxism.
>>2678455>leftcom running to the defence of american imperialismOfc
yikes, I almost reply to chagos
>>2678466I love you
I want you to hold me down
>>2672514I’d add that blaming the problems of capitalism on billionaires not giving their money away frames the situation as a moral issue rather than a systemic one.
>>26734961. The music industry went into crisis around the early 2000s, with record sales sharply declining.
2. A few employees at Apple invented iTunes specifically to take advantage of this crisis, thinking that Big Tech control of the music industry could both stabilize the crisis and give them control of music. This also laid the groundwork for what would become music streaming.
3. Billie Eilish was “discovered” at age 13 in late 2015 by her brother’s manager, who had ties to Interscope Records. Before Billie was signed to the label, she was signed up to an artist development company called Platoon which — wait for it — was created and run by one of the co-creators of iTunes and this affiliated with Apple.
4. Before Billie’s album was released in 2019, Apple (and Spotify) gave her an unbelievable amount of promotion to ensure she would be the biggest pop star on earth. This was entirely sone to prove that an “unconventional” artist such as her could have a sustainable career entirely due to music streaming.
5. Companies like Platoon work like a label except for the fact they allow the artists to keep their masters; this is important because streaming services need permission from whomever holds the masters to host the music. Streaming services also make their money from subscriptions, not the artists themselves.
6. Billie Eilish was nothing more than a figurehead for Apple and Spotify in their efforts to seize control of the music industry from the major labels. The doc spells this out very well. Eyelash is a corporate puppet in spite of her fake “leftist” sentiments.
>>2675247Her uncle is close friends with John Kerry, holy shit.
>>2679210Didn’t Newsom say he will arrest everyone mentioned in the Epstein files if elected POTUS?
>>2679235She’s on Ozempic now.
>>2679289WHY WHAT THE FUCK I HATE THIS
>>2679235She's always had an uncanny valley face.
>>2679500hentai doesn't try to look like real people though, that's the whole point
>>2679210The usual suspects.
Surprised he doesn't follow Jacobin.
>>2679520Yeah exactly, so if someone goes for hentai and furry stuff that gives someone overfitted to porn time away from it so they can look at normal bodies in a fresh light.
>>2680386Highland Park looks like shit. You can tell which homes are owned by white gentrifiers vs. which ones are owned by Mexican proles.
I want Laverne Cox to be a dommy-mommy towards me
>>2675247>>2679191so it just so happens that her uncle is a sitting congressman during 9/11, voted for the patriot act (alongside countless undisclosed mass surveillance bills), the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, the big bank bailouts of '08, and countless other major events of the past 20 years during his service to congress.
i guess it makes sense considering Ariana Grande's mother is the CEO of a communications company that sold its products to the US Navy.
Why does this glow thread still exist? Why are you lot participating in an obvious psyop?
>>2680767Take your objectification of women to 4chan you fucking chud
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