/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2673237
The point is that you are helping a person. A living, breathing person. If you see someone starving on the street and they ask you for a sandwich, are you going to say "sorry dude, if I gave you food I would be doing the labor of the capitalist elite, so I guess you'll just have to die?" The entire fucking point of leftism is to help people who are in need of help; if you can't mass organize you can at least give a hungry guy a fucking sandwich. Arguing otherwise is insanely fucking pathetic to be entirely honest with you.

>>2673235
Insane how real this meme is. I take long breaks from the site and it was insane to log in and see people saying that Mamdani has already failed at fucking 30 days into his tenure. It's incredible how immense the willing defeatism is for the left.

Like could you imagine if the next NYC mayor were a Christian Nationalist that wants to ban Sharia Law and give ICE total run of the city or some stupid bullshit like that? Do you think the extreme right would be going "oh nooooo, he's not a literal naziiiii, it's so overrrrrrr; he doesn't even want to gas the jews and hang all black peopleeee." FUCK no; they'd be popping champagne bottles and tuning in to hear Nick Fuentes talk about how it's time to give 10,000% critical support to the Second Coming of Basedness. Forget "critical support," we can't even manage Mild Fucking Enthusiasm for the most leftmost mayor of one of the biggest cities on the planet.

>>2673224
why are they making it so easy

>>2673245
speaking of left defeatism, my biggest hot take is that more tankies should have been cops
its probably too late now, but having a couple people who could do cop shit but in our favor would've been nice

>>2673218
It's not that racism doesn't exist, it's that class is the method that is used to materially hurt people so it we get rid of the class system and racism has no avenue to do anything.
>>2673232
>Or just do shit IRL?
Nothing wrong with doing that but anon mentioned opsec for a reason. Various communication technologies are necessary to coordinate questionably legal activities and avoid imprisonment for being antifa narcoterrorist protestor. Just doing things in person is limited.

>>2673191
you can tell she loves you, go to her house and kiss her

>>2673101
More like this?

>>2673248
>my biggest hot take is that more tankies should have been cops
True but unfortunately tankies are the biggest larpers of all, which is why they overcompensate by being tankies.

Half of these dudes would shit their pants if they were the one at the hangout that was handed the phone and told to order the pizza.

>>2673245
>I take long breaks from the site and it was insane to log in and see people saying that Mamdani has already failed at fucking 30 days into his tenure.

If you think celebrating shitty pseudo-leftist politicians from the american democratic party is good, then you're the actual problem with this board.

>FUCK no; they'd be popping champagne bottles and tuning in to hear Nick Fuentes talk about how it's time to give 10,000% critical support to the Second Coming of Basedness.

If you ever watched actual Nick content you would know that he's mostly anti-Trump and spends like 80% of the time denouncing him as being fake and performative and sold out to Israel. He doesn't pat useless politicians on the head for meaningless gestures and optics, he actually attacks them from the right and denounces them as insufficient.

>>2673245
>The point is that you are helping a person. A living, breathing person. If you see someone starving on the street and they ask you for a sandwich, are you going to say "sorry dude, if I gave you food I would be doing the labor of the capitalist elite, so I guess you'll just have to die?" The entire fucking point of leftism is to help people who are in need of help; if you can't mass organize you can at least give a hungry guy a fucking sandwich. Arguing otherwise is insanely fucking pathetic to be entirely honest with you.
No I fully understand what you're saying here but it's like, there's a reason leftists oppose the concept of charity as a social safety net. It creates a perverse situation where the poor need to appeal to their "class superiors" for scraps just to live, and that's not very far from the liberal "means testing" garbage they use to deny help to the homeless just because they're addicts or have a criminal record etc.

From an individual view volunteering or giving to charity is an altruistic and good deed but in a grander scale you're just feeding into a system that sustains Capitalism by exploiting your good nature, taking your own time and money to feed people the system has abandoned, so that they don't get too desperate and revolt. And then those people will politicize your good deed in favor of Capitalism because you thought politicizing it would be too shameless.

What I'm actually trying to get at is we should politicize everything we do that is political. Helping people is inherently political. We should be radicalizing the homeless and the poor. Don't just serve them breakfast but also give them reading material with their meal. Don't just build houses but let them know how they can join your org and help destroy the system that keeps them in poverty. Leftists need to stop being afraid of wearing their ideals on their sleeve.

>>2673116
>straight-ish
Based. Gems like this is why you're the only tripfag i dont filter.

>>2673245
what you're describing isn't even just a problem on leftypol (although it's particularly obnoxious here). I think that what passes for "the left" in the US is currently little more than the façade of what should be a vanguard, and that beneath all the posturing on the internet about being the most radicool MLs/anarchists/[take your pick of any dead past leftist movement] there is absolutely zero engagement with the theory beyond what Mao called book worship. I'm not going to try to brag about being the most involved in organizing or anything being a mentally ill shut-in, but I've been deeply engaged in trying to organize shit by following the line of flight that the imageboards and internet culture I grew up with represented, and I watched a new pseudo-left of radlibs rise to prominence in the 2010s, but none of it has ever come from a What is to Be Done perspective. it's all the same inane pie-in-the-sky ideological thinking about what sort of society we'll build after the revolution, which is something that someone else is going to obviously do, or it'll just fucking magically spontaneously happen.

I think spontaneity was the main thing that "the left" was hoping would happen and that when the biggest mass protesting and riots in modern US history happened in 2020 and didn't result in anything, which followed Ferguson, OWS, and many other similar mass movements around the world all result in utter failure (see If We Burn by Vincent Bevins). but all of this bad conscience has seemingly existed from a place of either denial or privilege where people have acted like we can afford to not keep fighting, and that we shouldn't keep throwing ourselves at a wall with the same tactics but like actually utilize the theory we supposedly read to analyze the conditions today and fucking adapt to them.

I honestly think that the biggest problem with the left right now is "the left" and that we need some kind of Cultural Revolution to purge all the useless ultras, doomers, and people who want to LARP as Bolsheviks or the CNT-FAI. we need to ruthlessly critique all of our ideological thinking and accept that there is no Party with a line for us to follow; we have immense opportunity right now but we have to actually think about what we're doing in addition to acting. as far as I can tell, right now we are all our own worst enemy, and sooner or later the real movement is going to leave all us so-called communists behind the more that the masses discover class consciousness from first principles.

>>2673254
>If you think celebrating shitty pseudo-leftist politicians from the american democratic party is good, then you're the actual problem with this board.
Holy fucking shit dude, this guy has the highest alignment with your interests to political power ratio of potentially ANYONE IN YOUR LIFETIME EVER and the only thing you can do is kvetch in response?? What the fuck is even the point of any of this then? We should just roll over and let the nazis rape us all, fuck it.

>he's mostly anti-Trump
>mostly anti-Trump
>mostly
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>mostly
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>mostly
DON'T YOU GET IT MAN?? IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

>>2673251
hes gonna get raped by her handler 💀

>>2673257
100% agree. It feels like prevailing thought is "the people will do the revolution all by themselves and then I, the Based Theoryist, will step in to guide them once the capitalists have been overthrown and everyone else sits around and scratches their heads because they don't know what to do next."

It's fundamentally indistinguishable from people like Monarchists who want to revert society because they think that they're built different and would be able to a duke or a baron. If you just want a specific outcome because "this time I'll get to be the cool guy" then you don't actually believe in it at all.

And if you don't believe in it, then obviously you're never gonna go out into the street and campaign for it either.

>>2673244
Anarcracker

>>2673255
>there's a reason leftists oppose the concept of charity as a social safety net. It creates a perverse situation where the poor need to appeal to their "class superiors" for scraps just to live, and that's not very far from the liberal "means testing" garbage they use to deny help to the homeless just because they're addicts or have a criminal record etc.
Okay, but this reasoning is retarded, because unless you have the ability to change things on the systemic level all this does is say that Reading Books and Doing Nothing is the "best way to achieve socialism," which is obviously not fucking true. People want to know how socialism and the kind of organizing that you want to do is going to help them, especially amongst a population that is biased towards the very word "socialism." If you're not going to demonstrate first-hand the goodness of the philosophy, then nobody is going to give a shit.

>Don't just serve them breakfast but also give them reading material with their meal. Don't just build houses but let them know how they can join your org and help destroy the system that keeps them in poverty. Leftists need to stop being afraid of wearing their ideals on their sleeve.
This is good but it needs to start with people actually being willing to do the above, and anybody who thinks "well feeding the homeless at my local soup kitchen just helps capitalism" is going to auto-fail step one and by extension auto-fail step 2.

itt people who really honestly in their heart of hearts believe that posters of leftypol dot org are The Left™

how embarrassing

>>2673258
You're confusing the options made available to you via the rigged electoral system with the actual breadth of political alternatives. But I get it, americans are too complacent and have too much to lose to actually challenge power. This is why there will never be a revolution in this country.

>>2673267
Dude, the entire point is that you use ALL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO YOU.

The right uses ALL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

The left goes "mmmm, well I dunno honestly, this one's kinda dirty, and this one looks hard to use, and this one isn't really in line with my training…"

>>2673262
>It's fundamentally indistinguishable from people like Monarchists
few understand this or would be willing to admit it to themselves but pretty much every instance of people in the 2010s developing a "political consciousness" (which was a very real phenomenon that I not only watched happen but was involved in very early on with some things I wrote) at the very least started off from exactly this kind of passive consumerist mentality. nearly every "leftist" I've encountered engages in ideological thinking, where merely having a particular ideological stance means either that you have the Right Opinion™ and therefore will succeed inevitably (a form of what amounts to secular theism) or in the case of a lot of anarchists it also means you really need to do something no matter how ineffectual it has shown itself to be over and over again.

no one seems to understand that the whole thing about Marxism being a "science" (which is translated poorly because Wissenschaft doesn't really have an English equivalent) is that it's like a toolbox of methods ideas and methods of critique that are supposed to be applied to the real world historical conditions of the place where you are trying to organize. even people who read a lot of theory (probably way more Marxist theory than me) do the book worship thing of treating it as gospel that one needs to subordinate themselves before, when the whole fucking point that Marx famously said is to not merely interpret the world but also change it, and that this is a process that you are supposed to take part in by reading theory and then applying it to your organizational tactics.

it's all so fucking tiresome that no one seems to understand literally any of this but again it betrays a deeply consumerist mentality of passively absorbing things without reflecting on them at all.

>>2673268
Electoral politics isn't a tool (at least not one for you), it's the very instrument that legitimizes and structures the political order you live in. And saps away revolutionary energy that could be directed and foundational change. It objectively doesn't matter.

>>2673244
Thank you, it's my favorite flag for my favorite meme ideology

>>2673269
Modernizer

>>2673266
Honestly probably true, nobody here is going to do anything except the people who are already doing things so there's no point in trying to convince people as much as I want to. This site is better as an anonymous news aggregator.

>>2673269
Agreed on all fronts. At this point my hope is that >>2673266 is right and this place doesn't represent the reality of the left anyway.

>>2673271
>Electoral politics isn't a tool (at least not one for you)
I'm really glad New York's socialists didn't think like you did because if they did they'd have Andrew "Keep Your Eye On Zion" Cuomo spearheading the local government right now. Do you wanna march on down to the good ol' Big Apple and tell the NYC-DSA that they're doing it wrong? Or are they not real socialists anyway and will be blackbagged and shot during """the revolution?"""
>And saps away revolutionary energy that could be directed and foundational change.
This one is my favorite cope, I see it all the time. Yeah dude, because we all know that (You) and the people that think this way have been extremely busy spearheading the coming revolution. What have you done for the proletariat lately, anon? Jack off? Watch anime maybe? Make a twitter thread? Posting is praxis, right?

>>2673287
like I said I think that leftypol is particularly inane, but I don't think there is anything qualitatively different between most of "the left" today (in the US at least) and the grating extreme that leftypol represents. I would even say it's sorta like the left's id.

ZOHRAN CUCKED BY CHABAD

>>2672905
Luigi may live but he will never get his foreskin back and he will never undo his botched circumcision which was the reason he did what he did.

>>2673183
Also because the
>International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, Inc. (ICIJ)
>https://www.icij.org/
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_Investigative_Journalists
<https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/international-consortium-of-investigative-journalists-icij/
is probably a NATO front. So anything they leak is expected to be vetted by NATO glowies for calculated effect and scope.

They aspire to to be the glowie replacement for Wikileaks after they took it down.

>>2673287
Posting is praxis

I am still wrapping my head around all the leaks.
Some are accusations, and that's it. but the mails, oh damn, the mails are goooood

>>2673203
>The thing that confuses me is how exactly a bluepilled normie tries to rationalize this shit inside their head.
I was just outside touching grass concrete and plastic at some social mixer for the last few hours since posting here with y'all about all the crazy news of today. Like normie "grass-touchers" don't care about anything. Like I'm not talking kids, like 30-40 something. I never once talked about news or politics over many hours. These were all liberal artsy types. Nobody mentioned any of this bullshit going on once to me.

>>2673289
>ZOHRAN CUCKED BY CHABAD
Everyone who ever glazed Zohran has now switched to post-Bernie copium and gaslighting.Get on with the times. Zohran has barely entered in office.

The man hasn't had the time to do any policy yet.

(Besides appointing Zionists, granting them power and being on call 24/7 to attend Jewish Feelings™)

>>2673294 (me)
and these, what are these? 'disclosed trials'?

>>2673290
You think Luigi underwent metzitzah b'peh as a baby?

>>2673299
Whats that?

>>2673296
>politician avoids a media firestorm by doing a bare minimum press conference before immediately getting back to work
>this is somehow bad
The absolute state of this board.

Why won't Zohran ban metzitzah b'peh? Oh right, because he's been cucked by Chabad.

>>2673302
zionist post

>>2673299
He's not a Jew. The goy doctor took my foreskin and then sold it on the open market like the rest of the burgermutts.

Did you know they sell them by race on some sites? Like different race foreskins are worth different amounts. Dentists also sell your wisdom teeth btw.

Repostan' from the consistently bestest thread on leftypol:

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2016830757352968398

>This is a genuinely incredible story.

>The hottest term on Chinese social media right now is “kill-line”: if you go to Xiaohongshu, Bilibili or Douyin, everyone is speaking about it. Why?

>It all has to do with the story of Alex, known as “牢A” (“Láo A”, literally “prison A” where A stands for Alex), a Chinese medical/biology student based in Seattle, USA, who worked part-time as a forensic assistant collecting unclaimed bodies (primarily homeless people).

>You’ve doubtlessly never heard of him but he probably single-handedly shattered what remained of the “American Dream” myth for an entire generation of young Chinese. In late 2025, Alex started going massively viral on Bilibili, a Chinese video platform, for videos where he described poverty in America. He coined the term “kill line” (“斩杀线”) - an expression borrowed from gaming describing when a game character's health is so low one hit will finish them.

>In Alex’s framing, the concept describes how a single shock (illness, job loss, accident) can push middle-class Americans into irreversible poverty. It’s hard to overstate the cultural impact he’s had in China.

>In barely a few weeks, “kill line” became part of everyday lexicon. So much so that even Qiushi - the core theoretical journal of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China - published a lengthy theoretical analysis using "kill line" as its central framework (https://qstheory.cn/20260104/0a091946537a4ea789a07bd4e40253b3/c.html). This never happens. Gaming slang coined by a 22-year-old streamer based in the U.S. does not become the analytical framework for Qiushi, the CPC’s core theoretical journal, in just a handful of weeks. That’s normally not how Communist Party theory gets crafted, to put it mildly.

>And yet here we are - which goes to show just how powerfully Alex resonated. It didn’t take long for America to notice - and for Alex’s problems to start. Due to the staggering resonance his content was having in China, Alex became the target of an extremely vicious doxxing campaign by Chinese dissidents. He also got targeted by Western media with the New York Times, among others, publishing a piece (https://nytimes.com/2026/01/13/business/china-american-poverty.html) identifying him as the origin of the phenomenon which they described - unsurprisingly - as Communist propaganda meant to “deflect criticism of [Chinese] leaders.”

>I just wrote an article telling the full story. It ends with Alex escaping to China in an extraction worthy of a Cold War spy novel. Think about how extraordinary this is: a Chinese student fleeing to China for safety, because he feared for his life after being harassed for describing poverty in America.

<Full story here: https://arnaudbertrand.substack.com/p/the-incredible-story-of-alex-forced

TL;DR: the Chinese posteriat by mere act of nooticing mustered up a stronger ideological force than decades of CIA/US congress-paid billions of $$$ by merely pointing to a single fact of burgerdom: if you get one (¹) unexpected bill, you is dead

>>2673295
yeah that's not really a social mixer talk

>>2673303
The literal first thing Ziorhan did was reinstate the terms of the Adams EO wrt "houses of worship" (to combat protesting outside synagogues).

Priorities, you know.

https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/01/executive-order-02

mmmm… now you can't expect to open the door to unknown people in the US.

>>2673299
I tried to google it nothings shows up. Is it just a fancy word for circumcision?

>>2673287
>posting is praxis, right?
What do you think I am doing here?

holly shit, I leave the news cycle for a couple of days and I get this, lmao.
I can't wait for trumpedo to sue the FBI and the DOJ for leaking all the epstein documents unredacted.

>>2673317
Nothing ever happens

>>2673287
>New York's socialists
lol, lmao even
>This one is my favorite cope, I see it all the time. Yeah dude, because we all know that (You) and the people that think this way have been extremely busy spearheading the coming revolution. What have you done for the proletariat lately, anon? Jack off? Watch anime maybe? Make a twitter thread? Posting is praxis, right?
This is basically fedposting bait. I'm convinced this poster is a glowie.

who would win in a fight ? the italian blackshirts or ice ?

>>2673346
Blackshirts.
>many were WWI vets, even an Italian WWI vet saw more shit than an Afghanistan vet
>got into actual street battles with armed communists, instead of terrorizing unarmed people
>higher standard of fitness