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https://houdinimagazine.com/weeks-as-decades-reading-listPrevious thread:
>>2669581Remember, legal + illegal struggle
Remember, praxis + theory
Remember, it's not impossible
"Open the jail gates or we will close the mill gates." – "Big" Bill Haywood
USA Government = Israeli paedophile billionaires
can we get a repost of all the documents, please, thanks.
>>2672911just go to the previous thread and ctrl+f "PDF"
it should stay up for another 2 or so weeks before it falls of the board. Leftypol is way slower than chudpol.
Luigi fucking won
i have no doubt asmongold has hung out with epstein but he probably smelled so bad that even the pedophiles didn't wanna be around him.
>>2672918epstein was doing his finances for him
>>2672923I wonder if brain Thompson is in the files?
Where are the pdfs being downloaded from?
>>2672933they were downloaded from the DOJ site before they were removed, but they're being reposted on reddit and other various places. I think the turbolib youtuber MeidasTouch (spelled wrong on purpose) also released them, someone said so in the last thread.
so the Epstein files don't matter anymore right?
>>2672938>didn't even link correctlythis thread is off to a great start
>>2672935I need a torrent por diosss
>>2672943do you pay your journalists
>>2672947The patreon is at $44 dollars which covers the server costs and hosting fees. We'd love to pay for more work but most is done on a volunteer basis. Joining the patreon gives us more to work with, towards that goal.
Anderson cooper is covering Elon musk being in the files. I think trump fucked up arresting don Lemon.
>>2672949no offense but have you tried raising capital through scams?
>>2672953We accept XMR donations for a reason anon.
>>2672957he is so cringe even if you redacted the whole name in the sender you could tell who's writing is this
>>2672957fucking redditor in chief
>>2672957Hahahah
>Bummer!Ahahahah
>>2672957Thanks for the gold, kind pedophile!
>>2672957he writes like a 12 year old with autism would back in the mid 2000s
i went on facebook to see what the maga boomers are saying.
>fake news
>democrat hoax
>biden was a pedofile too
>>2672969>democrat hoax when democrats aren't even in powerkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>2672965holly shit all that recount of events…
>why?hey, democrats have their pedophiles too.
one thing this epstein shit has made me realize is i never want to be rich and famous. these sickos pull you into their orbit and guilt by association even if you want nothing to do with them, and they lure you into blackmail situations.
we already knew all this!!!!! lol
how many fucking times are gonna go: news flash everyone the ultra rich of the USA are evil pedophiles!!!!!
>>2672957He's such a fucking loser.
honkoid status?
>>2672969>democrat hoax when democrats are also implicated0 autism score 200d chess
>>2672957>deal with this . than you lmao
Another day, another reminder I'm ruled by billionaire fascist pedophile génocidaires.
>>2672979ahh blud pu dihh in ahh of kihh ong
>>2672965because democrats and republicans are working for the same team why do we have to keep repeating this conversation lol
>>2672981I love the way epstein writes. We should have a whole thread in epsteinspeak.
Someone should train grok to write like epstein because it is too autistic to emulate.
>>2672968Look at trump smile. You think he was blown before the picture or he is smiling knowing whats waiting.
>>2672905🙄 People talk about "unproductive labor" and treatlerites in the imperial core but what they really mean is the social division of mental and physical labor and the town-country contradiction. But many national liberation struggles have largely succeeded and it's far cheaper to hire engineers in India and call center workers in the Phillipines. Also people have remote work now and can telecommute from the country. So the underlying material base of treatlerism and the social division of physical and mental labor is rapidly disappearing.
i feel like in any other country finding out your president is
>a pedophile
>had multiple young girls murdered
>forced multiple young girls to get abortions
>sucked bill clinton's dick
would be grounds for an angry mob showing up at his house and his praetorian guard feeding him to the wolves to restore public confidence through a public lynching. but somehow this is just another friday news dump for america that will be quickly forgotten by saturday morning strikes on iran. crazy.
>>2672957that has got to be a fake
>>2672965Because it's one big club and it would also expose the Clintons
Over/Under on them using the internet blackout switch on us tonight?
>>2672965There was an investigation going on woth Maxwell. If they released it then Maxwell could’ve gotten a misstrial
>>2672987He's definitely fucked up to some degree writing most of these.
america is so fucked
>>2673008that just sounds like a convenient excuse. somehow no matter the issue democrats never seem to show any kind of political urgency and just go "whoops we ran out of time" when it backfires. the maxwell "investigation" conveniently had no set time limit and no information released to the public so biden could cruise through 4 years without ever addressing epstein or upsetting israel.
>>2673008Fucking AND!?!?!?
If you think Trump is a LITERAL FASCIST (and God knows by how he's governing there's a very good case to be made there) how the FUCK do you not se preventing him getting reelected as a bigger fucking problem then the case around one of Epstein's collaborators????
>>2673011Yea, the rule of law is bullshit. They would rather wait for the files to be unsealed after the trial than actually provide justice or get rid of a political candidate. The dems are that pathetic.
>>2672957ROG (Reddit Occupied Government)
Salò really happened btw
>>2672987it's not autistic it's just retarded. like this is a mossad jock with brain damage and syphilis who hung out with nerds and convinced himself he was a nerd.
>>2672989they're all getting blown as the pic is being taken.
>>2672991> So the underlying material base of treatlerism and the social division of physical and mental labor is rapidly disappearing.been saying this but consciousness always lags behind material conditions so expect people to still be saying amerikkkans are treatlerites long after treatlerism has vanished and the burger reich has collapsed, in the same way some retards are still convinced china is poor.
>>2673039>>2672885man Delcy is a total Judas, huh? They didn't even need Waria Glowrina Machudo.
>>2673035this makes a lot of sense when you factor in this thread that people keep forgetting: >>/lgbt/3094
https://dump.li/a/29c72d#xhttps://archive.org/details/dark-web-playground-child-abuse-forum-leak-censored-posted-endchan-03.18.2025there is very clearly some involvement, going way back to the very beginnings of the alt-right potentially, of these human trafficking rings for the elites and the formation of the new far-right in the 2010s.
>>2673042Chavez hated her guts for being a Hillary Clinton wannabe. Dunno why Maduro kept her around.
>>2673044forgot how to fucking link between boards
>>>/lgbt/3094 >>2672986there's suckers born every day and every day there's newfags on here who just woke up I guess. either that or glowies.
>>2672893>>2673042>>2673045You are wrong. Venezuelan workers support hydrocarbon reform because hydrocarbon reform maintains proletarian commanding heights of economic because joint state enterprise forces capital to be minority partner. Executive chairwoman Delcy has protected dictatorship of proletariat and reinvigorated development of productive forces.
>>2673039 (me)
And I should add, before it happens, that Cuba will not be getting anymore of my support (on X, formerly Twitter) if they too reveal themselves as
LOSERS and
LIBERALS.
China rising.jepg
Chongqing-at-night(10k HDR).png
>>2673053WrongSchizo, wear a trip already
>>2673043I'm gonna guess 50% is
>fake news jewish liesand the other 50% is
>uhh actually epstein was based and did nothing wrong >>2673056I'm just thinking about the time someone posted a pic of moot cumming on his own belly back in like 2012 on /b/ and moot immediately responded with "Where did you get this picture?"
>>2673039Kek, seethe more retarded libshit
>>2673055You support imperialism by slandering venezuela's government. Private cooperation is minority stake and prolerian dictatorship is strengthened. The Chavista have found a way to use capital against itself.
>>2673057KEK
I remember that screencap
>>2673059It's not 11D Dengist chess when the burger reich kidnaps your president and Marco Rubio celebrates, WrongSchizo.
>>2673039This but unironically
>>2673042>man Delcy is a total Judas, huh? They didn't even need Waria Glowrina Machudo.Some people fixate on text analysis and indeed many companies are now developing and selling their own "AI detectors", often AI themselves. When not the literal same models/services lazily prompted to "reveal themselves" and fed with the documents.
But the easiest method remains sarcasm. As it conflicts with the training to "fullfill" the prompt in the most earnest, precise and more importantly pleasing, manner.
>>2673070I assume you're implying I'm AI for noticing this lady is a Judas. Unless I'm missing something she's bending over backwards for the burger reich and Rubio is celebrating while Maduro rots in jail. WrongSchizo is calling this genius but he always trolls.
>>2673063Yes it is. That is why venezuelan workers support hydrocarbon reform. The reform was happening even if maduro wasnt kidnapped.
>>2673079Mind giving a brief explanation or pointers to one, on what this "hidrocarbon reform" consists of? And how it may benefit Venezuelan workers?
>>2673081don't ask WrongSchizo to elaborate. WrongSchizo is a known troll. You can tell WrongSchizo by his posting style.
>>2673063That was all just step one of Maduro's grand master plan to join forces with Luigi at Metropolitan Detention Center and together lead the prisoners to escape and start the revolution in NY with the help of comrade Mamdani
…just found out one of my managers has a Michael Parenti yellow lecture sticker on his water bottle. Kind of caught me by surprise.
>>2673088Unironically makes this the second Red I’ve met entirely through work. Oh, I also had a black lady come through my line praising China and saying her son played basketball over there (but complaining that they didn’t have much sour candy so she was sending him some)
>>2673035this deserves its own thread so I've made one here:
>>2673090 >>2673087>falsifier stickerNGMI
>>2673089my wife watches this African lady on social media who went and lived with her Chinese husband in rural China and they do way more to normalize China and make it look like a nice place to live than just about anyone I've seen in normie media.
>>2673081Socialist private minority proletarian dominated enterprise.
https://avn.info.ve/mensaje-de-nicolas-maduro-confien-en-delcy-rodriguez/ delcy is maduro chosen successor and is following his directive
>>2672987>>2673009Just imagine every time you typed an email you had to type it on your phone with just one thumb while your other hand is pushing roughly on the back of the head of miss teen universe as you thrust rapidly into her eager mouth
>>2673087Your manager from the Party? Or at work? Are they hot? Would you?
>>2673030>wants to meet in person because phone might be tapped>doesn't want to meet in person because pandemic>decides to do the worst of both worlds and meet over Zoom or Skype or some shit like that where you're being tapped and recorded at the same timepeak retarded, god damn. I'm sorry. Yeah I saw. Drinks the blood of children. But that didn't shock me. Nothing shocks me anymore.
>>2673025>You need to kill 'em all at this point, hahaIt was at that point the moment somebody drew a line and said "over here is my stuff"
>>2673105Manager at work. He’s just a chill older dude. Talks video games a lot. I’m straight-ish enough that I’d need a bit of booze and a cute enough femboy to flip.
>>2673116You should talk with him about setting up a soviet
perhaps over drinks and in a casual setting >>2673118probably the only time i've ever been disappointed by someone i liked turning out to be a pedo. sad.
>>2673118already posted. what's even more interesting is that he made /pol/ IMMEDIATELY after meeting jeff.
>>2673128man the ***s really did take over 4chan and then manufactured pizzagate to create a "boy who cried wolf" situation to shield trump from pedo allegations. i'm so disappointed in moot for just going along with it all.
>>2673132leftypol armchair posters told me the internet was useless for political activism or propaganda. do these propagandists just not know?
>>2673135it was kind of obvious in hindsight with how far 4chan shifted towards the right and how suddenly it all happened.
>>2673118>>2673124>>2673127>>2673128>>2673133>>2673135>>2673132reminder that there is a dedicated thread
>>2673090 I think the implications in this drop for how much of recent history has been manipulated by feds and pedophile billionaires astroturfing reactionary politics that has become a global phenomenon goes way beyond the scope of the general USApol thread and that if any of us are worth our salt as communists (on a fucking imageboard no less) we should be investigating into it more and using it for agitprop.
>>2673144next i'll find out jeffrey posted that gif of riko peeing herself in made in abyss threads and all my faith in my fellow anons will evaporate.
>>2673144Jesus C died for our sins
Jeffrey E died 4 our chans
>>2673156Match made in Hell
>>2673139imagine being moot and creating the thing that would destroy america and the internet
>>2672995regarding iran, they really expect us to believe that somehow iran has killed tens of thousands of citizens in a few weeks just by shooting them with guns but somehow israel has killed the same amount of people dropping constant bombs on every inch of gaza for years. it's just complete bullshit. i mean we all knew that already, but this is the first time in my life i've actually WATCHED it happen. and how tf did all these previous generations fall for this?
they really expect us to believe that somehow iran has killed tens of thousands of citizens in a few weeks just by shooting them with guns but somehow israel has killed the same amount of people dropping constant bombs on every inch of gaza for years. it's just complete bullshit. i mean we all knew that already, but this is the first time in my life i've actually WATCHED it happen. and how tf did all these previous generations fall for this?
>>2673168and it's a thing he got from japan anyway, rather than a thing he invented, a thing japan invented after getting nuked.
am i kawaii now, america-kun?
I once wanted to write the "Great American Novel" about Class Struggle for our generation. Something to rival Grapes of Wrath. But reality is just too twisted and has gone beyond self parody… If you put any of this stuff in fiction you'd get told you were being heavy handed and corny. Hysterical. Absurd.
>>2673178That’s why the answer is satire anon.
>>2673180Satire doesn't work, you need 2d villains that are basically stupid & ugly
How fucked are we, as a species, if this becomes the panama papers 2.0 and nothing comes of it because everyone involved is just too rich and too powerful
>>2673183it doesn't matter
>>2673183It was over the moment the stupid fucking Red Army leadership didn't flip the chess board and nuke everybody else in 1991.
>>2673183unlike the Panama Papers this is happening in the midst of the veneer of civility and human rights being completely stripped away
within the imperial core, for US citizens, that is directly impacting their everyday lives in such a way where even normal white Americans have cause to fear being extrajudicially executed by state-backed domestic terrorists masquerading as a government agency.
this is on top of normal people's everyday quality of life rapidly and unilaterally decreasing, everything becoming more expensive, impending economic collapse (massive gold and silver selloff just happened btw).
like, you literally could not ask for a better set of conditions to do revolutionary organizing.
>>2673183the TWisters are right. we're all implicated. if you were gooning on /gif/ in 2017, epstein was right there gooning with you. treatlerites blackmailing themselves. we all deserve the guillotine. the only way to redeem ourselves is to march together and die fighting the amerikkkan/israeli bourgeoisie and to liberate the planet from ourselves. there is no future. we have dug our graves. all that is left is to jump in it.
>>2673183anon the epstein stuff is never gonna rile people into a revolution. americans already normalized the idea their leaders are pedophiles.
>>2673191yea i fucked her
>>2673192nice, how was it?
>>2673193literally me
>>2673188I think it’s really important for people to lock in right now and try to organize IRL
>>2673196that's why you're one of the few real ones on this shithole.
>>2673191I also fucked her
And I'm very hairy and girthy
i'm gonna admit something i've never talked about before… the first time I ever looked at porn, I was 12 years old in about 2004. i didn't know how to get it online, and I couldn't get magazines. so I bought a CD full of pictures of women of different races from a guy at school. He was Jewish. I didn't think much of it at the time because I wasn't raised to really thing about Jews. But since the Epstein stuff, now I do. I think about it all the time. Why did this random Jewish kid at school offer to sell me porn? My friends at the time made fun of me. They all had girlfriends, even at 12, and bragged about fingering them and stuff. They were all Christians. Meanwhile I was foreveralone and not religious and raised by old people and nobody liked to come to my house (apartment) because it was full of old people and smelly and boring… and here was this Jewish kid, ready to sell me porn at school. Already in his bag… I don't want to be like "Jews use porn to blackmail everyone," I was never a chudjak type…. but…. here we are.
>>2672995America is a post-truth society. Accept the fact
>>2673203the bluepilled normie take is that if you disagree with rich pedophiles ruling the world you need to voot harder to get them out of power. revolution is le bad. taking matters into your own hands is just "adventurism" and "does more harm than good" even though no one can ever point to a historical example where killing a porky made things worse.
>>2672960This is the funniest part for me. You just know they were laughing about the very idea of letting this dipshit up the boarding ramp before typing that reply up.
are we gonna see some journalist ask donald trump on live TV whether or not he f*ngered a 13 year old? that's gonna be surreal. can you believe nixon resigned over some bureaucratic scandal? lmao. i'll bet he's feeling like a dumbass in hell.
>>2673205Its because you were a sucker and he could tell. Its not a Jewish thing many people can tell when they meet a sucker. He knew you were dumb enough to buy pornography. And now you seem to think some jewish kid is part of the reason you are a loser. I hope you find peace.
>>2673183The most important people implicated are already dead or old and dying. Nothing big is going to happen from this.
>>2673189drama queen
>>2673203Majority are brainwashed form birth to trust the system. After all wasn't Epstein arrested and isn't everything being released right now? Everyone else is keeping their head low so they don't get murdered themselves
>>2673210* d*n't kn*w, w*'ll h*ve t* s*e!
>>2673217No shit but you'll still have class reductionist retards in here saying that racism doesn't meaningfully exist anymore despite the people at the very top of the superstructure being some of the most racist people of all.
>>2673199I don't consider myself a real one, there are people that work tirelessly and way harder than me. I just want to do what I can.
>>2673203Ehh I go back to the example of people choosing to wait at a Red Light even if they see they're the only person on the street. Getting a lot of folks to abandon diligent rule following ain't that easy.
>>2673196Serious question, is there even still a place on this board for people who believe IRL shit is important? It feels like people are actually trying to take the "read books and do nothing" meme seriously and actually legitimately believe that any sort of in-person anything is a waste of time / actively counterrevolutionary.
>>2673224Zionists try not to prove JQ conspiracy theorists right challenge (impossible)
>>2673225there isn't even a place for people who believe online shit is important.
this site is just reddit for people who think they're too cool for reddit. every day is just posting twitter screenshots and news articles and everyone commenting on it. we have no original content, no organic culture, nothing. literally fucking reddit dude.
>>2673218>>2673217…In this case wouldn't Epstein's flagrant racism be a semi-good thing since it kept Black girls from being victimized? Like I think the sex predator being too racist to target Black girls isn't the worst display of racism out there.
>>2673225I don't know, I think there are a few anons on here who still try. I personally just want to encourage people to attend whatever IRL stuff they can, regardless of how "cringe" they think it'll be.
>>2673225It's very difficult to organize anything of actual consequence online mainly because anything of actual consequence that's organized online will immediately get monitored and intervened on by feds. If you're serious though research about OPSEC (I recommend watching Mental Outlaw videos on Rumble or Odyssey) and start organizing with people you trust in a secure Signal/Session group chat.
>>2673229whatever happened to hacktivists idk why the left just totally abandoned online activism using anonymity and pseudonyms to avoid glowies? it's effective, it's easy, it's low commitment, and most of all it's something anyone can get involved in without leaving their home and can be easily streamlined to turn it into a trend.
>>2673227Grim. Maybe I should go back to not spending any time here.
>>2673228>…In this case wouldn't Epstein's flagrant racism be a semi-good thing since it kept Black girls from being victimized?In a fucked up way yeah. I think what a lot of people aren't going to understand though is that there are a lot of people who think in exactly this way that are in charge of actually important shit and spend a lot of time slamming the door in the face of minorities.
>I personally just want to encourage people to attend whatever IRL stuff they can, regardless of how "cringe" they think it'll be.I hope more people do. It was really annoying to see someone try to dog on that dude in the Batman costume in a previous thread. Not only is any form of positive public activism based, it turned out that he also helped the homeless which is three times as based.
I swear people around here wouldn't know "praxis" if it burnt their house down and stole their bike.
>>2673229Or just do shit IRL? Not everything needs to be online all the time, nor does it necessarily need to be shit that's lefty-specific. Volunteering to build houses or feed people or hand out blankets or whatever is just as good for building any sort of ground-up stability for the working class. Like every thread US thread in here manages to rack up 100-200 unique IPs; that's enough to do things like spam-call representatives on specific issues.
>activism
>>2673222don't take it as flattery, the bar is low on leftypol ;^)
also checked
>>2673225this tbh
>>2673227I've been using leftypol since the very beginning in 2015 and spent far more time than I would care to admit trying to push the board in a direction of engaging seriously with literally fucking anything, and while there was a point where there was at least a distinct culture, at this point it mostly feels like an empty shell of its former self.
I can't even say it's an Eternal September situation where newfags ruined the board because at this point the site feels like a complete simulacrum of original board where most of what people post here is not even just worthless noise, because that's too charitable. most of this site is actively counterrevolutionary and doing the work of feds by incessantly posting useless doomer bullshit, trying to discourage everyone from doing literally anything, even as it increasingly becomes actively in the everyday self-interests of normal people to start organizing to fucking defend themselves from state-backed domestic terrorists.
I still lurk and occasionally post here because I can't stand pretty much any of the internet at this point, but leftypol is at least anonymous and when news drops it tends to get posted here quickly. but I have no hope for this place anymore and haven't for a long time when I originally left it for several years after watching it get turned into some unironic red fash type shit from being constantly spammed by /pol/ back when it was still on 8chan.
>>2673235You are an anarcracker
>>2673232>nor does it necessarily need to be shit that's lefty-specific.nah it does. don't waste your limited time on this earth doing unpaid labor for porky. volunteering feels nice but you're effectively just putting a bandaid on the horrific situation in this country, and wasting your life doing it.
>>2673035>I liked mmot alot>mmotKek
>>2673228>In this case wouldn't Epstein's flagrant racism be a semi-good thing since it kept Black girls from being victimized?Funnily enough, yea. Epstein also didn't want any Asian kids. So he mostly cannibalized (literally) white kids.
>>2673235>I've been using leftypol since the very beginning in 2015Fucking hell, I've been posting with the same anons for over a decade.
>>2673224>>2673226If you look at the email exchanges between Chomsky and Epstein, the conversations always started with some reference to their own jewishness. Chomsky had hundreds of colleagues and students he could have been friends with, yet he chose to be friends with the jewish billionaire who worked in finance and human trafficking; even though Jeff had literally nothing of insightful to comment on his theories on linguistics or anything like that. I fully believe that the reason Jeff was able to befriend Chomsky was solely their shared jewishness and of course Jeff's status as someone who could provide Chomsky access to elite circles and possibly also pedophilia. In retrospect I also always thought it was weird how Chomsky was a fierce critic of US foreign policy and yet his criticisms against Israel were extremely tame and liberal in comparison. It was also weird how defensive Chomsky was of people like Stephen Pinker (a fellow ashkenazi who believes in genetic determinism and is proud of how ashkenazis score highest in autism score tests). Jewish supremacism runs deep and it affects even people who we believe are critics of power.
>>2673236I just use the flag because I'm literally responsible for it being added on the board originally
faggot>>2673241as the saying goes, you're here forever.
>>2673237The point is that you are helping a person. A living, breathing person. If you see someone starving on the street and they ask you for a sandwich, are you going to say "sorry dude, if I gave you food I would be doing the labor of the capitalist elite, so I guess you'll just have to die?" The entire fucking point of leftism is to help people who are in need of help; if you can't mass organize you can at least give a hungry guy a fucking sandwich. Arguing otherwise is insanely fucking pathetic to be entirely honest with you.
>>2673235Insane how real this meme is. I take long breaks from the site and it was insane to log in and see people saying that Mamdani has already failed at fucking 30 days into his tenure. It's incredible how immense the willing defeatism is for the left.
Like could you imagine if the next NYC mayor were a Christian Nationalist that wants to ban Sharia Law and give ICE total run of the city or some stupid bullshit like that? Do you think the extreme right would be going "oh nooooo, he's not a literal naziiiii, it's so overrrrrrr; he doesn't even want to gas the jews and hang all black peopleeee." FUCK no; they'd be popping champagne bottles and tuning in to hear Nick Fuentes talk about how it's time to give 10,000% critical support to the Second Coming of Basedness. Forget "critical support," we can't even manage Mild Fucking Enthusiasm for the most leftmost mayor of one of the biggest cities on the planet.
>>2673224why are they making it so easy
>>2673245speaking of left defeatism, my biggest hot take is that more tankies should have been cops
its probably too late now, but having a couple people who could do cop shit but in our favor would've been nice
>>2673218It's not that racism doesn't exist, it's that class is the method that is used to materially hurt people so it we get rid of the class system and racism has no avenue to do anything.
>>2673232>Or just do shit IRL? Nothing wrong with doing that but anon mentioned opsec for a reason. Various communication technologies are necessary to coordinate questionably legal activities and avoid imprisonment for being antifa narcoterrorist protestor. Just doing things in person is limited.
>>2673191you can tell she loves you, go to her house and kiss her
>>2673248>my biggest hot take is that more tankies should have been copsTrue but unfortunately tankies are the biggest larpers of all, which is why they overcompensate by being tankies.
Half of these dudes would shit their pants if they were the one at the hangout that was handed the phone and told to order the pizza.
>>2673245>I take long breaks from the site and it was insane to log in and see people saying that Mamdani has already failed at fucking 30 days into his tenure.If you think celebrating shitty pseudo-leftist politicians from the american democratic party is good, then you're the actual problem with this board.
>FUCK no; they'd be popping champagne bottles and tuning in to hear Nick Fuentes talk about how it's time to give 10,000% critical support to the Second Coming of Basedness.If you ever watched actual Nick content you would know that he's mostly anti-Trump and spends like 80% of the time denouncing him as being fake and performative and sold out to Israel. He doesn't pat useless politicians on the head for meaningless gestures and optics, he actually attacks them from the right and denounces them as insufficient.
>>2673245>The point is that you are helping a person. A living, breathing person. If you see someone starving on the street and they ask you for a sandwich, are you going to say "sorry dude, if I gave you food I would be doing the labor of the capitalist elite, so I guess you'll just have to die?" The entire fucking point of leftism is to help people who are in need of help; if you can't mass organize you can at least give a hungry guy a fucking sandwich. Arguing otherwise is insanely fucking pathetic to be entirely honest with you.No I fully understand what you're saying here but it's like, there's a reason leftists oppose the concept of charity as a social safety net. It creates a perverse situation where the poor need to appeal to their "class superiors" for scraps just to live, and that's not very far from the liberal "means testing" garbage they use to deny help to the homeless just because they're addicts or have a criminal record etc.
From an individual view volunteering or giving to charity is an altruistic and good deed but in a grander scale you're just feeding into a system that sustains Capitalism by exploiting your good nature, taking your own time and money to feed people the system has abandoned, so that they don't get too desperate and revolt. And then those people will politicize your good deed in favor of Capitalism because you thought politicizing it would be too shameless.
What I'm actually trying to get at is we should politicize everything we do that is political. Helping people is inherently political. We should be radicalizing the homeless and the poor. Don't just serve them breakfast but also give them reading material with their meal. Don't just build houses but let them know how they can join your org and help destroy the system that keeps them in poverty. Leftists need to stop being afraid of wearing their ideals on their sleeve.
>>2673116>straight-ishBased. Gems like this is why you're the only tripfag i dont filter.
>>2673245what you're describing isn't even just a problem on leftypol (although it's particularly obnoxious here). I think that what passes for "the left" in the US is currently little more than the façade of what should be a vanguard, and that beneath all the posturing on the internet about being the most radicool MLs/anarchists/[take your pick of any dead past leftist movement] there is absolutely zero engagement with the theory beyond what Mao called book worship. I'm not going to try to brag about being the most involved in organizing or anything being a mentally ill shut-in, but I've been deeply engaged in trying to organize shit by following the line of flight that the imageboards and internet culture I grew up with represented, and I watched a new pseudo-left of radlibs rise to prominence in the 2010s, but none of it has ever come from a What is to Be Done perspective. it's all the same inane pie-in-the-sky ideological thinking about what sort of society we'll build
after the revolution, which is something that
someone else is going to obviously do, or it'll just fucking magically spontaneously happen.
I think spontaneity was the main thing that "the left" was hoping would happen and that when the biggest mass protesting and riots in modern US history happened in 2020 and didn't result in anything, which followed Ferguson, OWS, and many other similar mass movements around the world all result in utter failure (see
If We Burn by Vincent Bevins). but all of this bad conscience has seemingly existed from a place of either denial or privilege where people have acted like we can afford to not keep fighting, and that we shouldn't keep throwing ourselves at a wall with the same tactics but like actually
utilize the theory we supposedly read to analyze the conditions today and fucking adapt to them.
I honestly think that the biggest problem with the left right now is "the left" and that we need some kind of Cultural Revolution to purge all the useless ultras, doomers, and people who want to LARP as Bolsheviks or the CNT-FAI. we need to ruthlessly critique all of our ideological thinking and accept that there is no Party with a line for us to follow; we have immense opportunity right now but we have to actually think about what we're doing in addition to acting. as far as I can tell, right now we are all our own worst enemy, and sooner or later the real movement is going to leave all us so-called communists behind the more that the masses discover class consciousness from first principles.
>>2673254>If you think celebrating shitty pseudo-leftist politicians from the american democratic party is good, then you're the actual problem with this board.Holy fucking shit dude, this guy has the highest alignment with your interests to political power ratio of potentially ANYONE IN YOUR LIFETIME EVER and the only thing you can do is kvetch in response?? What the fuck is even the point of any of this then? We should just roll over and let the nazis rape us all, fuck it.
>he's mostly anti-Trump>mostly anti-Trump>mostly<mostly>mostly<mostly>mostlyDON'T YOU GET IT MAN?? IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
>>2673251hes gonna get raped by her handler 💀
>>2673257100% agree. It feels like prevailing thought is "the people will do the revolution all by themselves and then I, the Based Theoryist, will step in to guide them once the capitalists have been overthrown and everyone else sits around and scratches their heads because they don't know what to do next."
It's fundamentally indistinguishable from people like Monarchists who want to revert society because they think that they're built different and would be able to a duke or a baron. If you just want a specific outcome because "this time I'll get to be the cool guy" then you don't actually believe in it at all.
And if you don't believe in it, then obviously you're never gonna go out into the street and campaign for it either.
>>2673255>there's a reason leftists oppose the concept of charity as a social safety net. It creates a perverse situation where the poor need to appeal to their "class superiors" for scraps just to live, and that's not very far from the liberal "means testing" garbage they use to deny help to the homeless just because they're addicts or have a criminal record etc.Okay, but this reasoning is retarded, because unless you have the ability to change things on the systemic level all this does is say that Reading Books and Doing Nothing is the "best way to achieve socialism," which is obviously not fucking true. People want to know how socialism and the kind of organizing that you want to do is going to help them, especially amongst a population that is biased towards the very word "socialism." If you're not going to demonstrate first-hand the goodness of the philosophy, then nobody is going to give a shit.
>Don't just serve them breakfast but also give them reading material with their meal. Don't just build houses but let them know how they can join your org and help destroy the system that keeps them in poverty. Leftists need to stop being afraid of wearing their ideals on their sleeve.This is good but it needs to start with people actually being willing to do the above, and anybody who thinks "well feeding the homeless at my local soup kitchen just helps capitalism" is going to auto-fail step one and by extension auto-fail step 2.
itt people who really honestly in their heart of hearts believe that posters of leftypol dot org are The Left™
how embarrassing
>>2673258You're confusing the options made available to you via the rigged electoral system with the actual breadth of political alternatives. But I get it, americans are too complacent and have too much to lose to actually challenge power. This is why there will never be a revolution in this country.
>>2673267Dude, the entire point is that you use ALL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO YOU.
The right uses ALL TOOLS AVAILABLE TO THEM.
The left goes "mmmm, well I dunno honestly, this one's kinda dirty, and this one looks hard to use, and this one isn't really in line with my training…"
>>2673262>It's fundamentally indistinguishable from people like Monarchistsfew understand this or would be willing to admit it to themselves but pretty much every instance of people in the 2010s developing a "political consciousness" (which was a very real phenomenon that I not only watched happen but was involved in very early on with some things I wrote) at the very least started off from exactly this kind of passive consumerist mentality. nearly every "leftist" I've encountered engages in ideological thinking, where merely having a particular ideological stance means either that you have the Right Opinion™ and therefore will succeed inevitably (a form of what amounts to secular theism) or in the case of a lot of anarchists it also means you really need to do something no matter how ineffectual it has shown itself to be over and over again.
no one seems to understand that the whole thing about Marxism being a "science" (which is translated poorly because Wissenschaft doesn't really have an English equivalent) is that it's like a toolbox of methods ideas and methods of critique that are supposed to be applied to the real world historical conditions of the place where you are trying to organize. even people who read a lot of theory (probably way more Marxist theory than me) do the book worship thing of treating it as gospel that one needs to subordinate themselves before, when the whole fucking point that Marx famously said is to not merely interpret the world but also change it, and that this is a process that you are supposed to take part in by reading theory and then applying it to your organizational tactics.
it's all so fucking tiresome that no one seems to understand literally any of this but again it betrays a deeply consumerist mentality of passively absorbing things without reflecting on them at all.
>>2673268Electoral politics isn't a tool (at least not one for you), it's the very instrument that legitimizes and structures the political order you live in. And saps away revolutionary energy that could be directed and foundational change. It objectively doesn't matter.
>>2673266Honestly probably true, nobody here is going to do anything except the people who are already doing things so there's no point in trying to convince people as much as I want to. This site is better as an anonymous news aggregator.
>>2673269Agreed on all fronts. At this point my hope is that
>>2673266 is right and this place doesn't represent the reality of the left anyway.
>>2673271>Electoral politics isn't a tool (at least not one for you)I'm really glad New York's socialists didn't think like you did because if they did they'd have Andrew "Keep Your Eye On Zion" Cuomo spearheading the local government right now. Do you wanna march on down to the good ol' Big Apple and tell the NYC-DSA that they're doing it wrong? Or are they not real socialists anyway and will be blackbagged and shot during """the revolution?"""
>And saps away revolutionary energy that could be directed and foundational change.This one is my favorite cope, I see it all the time. Yeah dude, because we all know that (You) and the people that think this way have been extremely busy spearheading the coming revolution. What have you done for the proletariat lately, anon? Jack off? Watch anime maybe? Make a twitter thread? Posting is praxis, right?
>>2673287like I said I think that leftypol is particularly inane, but I don't think there is anything qualitatively different between most of "the left" today (in the US at least) and the grating extreme that leftypol represents. I would even say it's sorta like the left's id.
>>2672905Luigi may live but he will never get his foreskin back and he will never undo his botched circumcision which was the reason he did what he did.
>>2673183Also because the
>International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, Inc. (ICIJ)>https://www.icij.org/>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_Investigative_Journalists<https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/international-consortium-of-investigative-journalists-icij/is probably a NATO front. So anything they leak is expected to be vetted by NATO glowies for calculated effect and scope.
They aspire to to be the glowie replacement for Wikileaks after they took it down.
>>2673287Posting is praxis
I am still wrapping my head around all the leaks.
Some are accusations, and that's it. but the mails, oh damn, the mails are goooood
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