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Who created Christian Zionism? I have been studying the Bible recently and the topic and I cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.

Ezekiel 40-42 and Zechariah 14
As always, it's up to interpretation

>>2680703 (me)
The new earth prophecy is usually meshed with the new jerusalem prophecy
Isaiah 65:17 & 66:22, 2 Peter 3:13, and Revelation 21:1 in the new testament

the purpose of christian zionism is to hasten end-times prophecy. christians are death cultists that want the end of the world.

>>2680698
it does not exist outside of most silly protestant sects

>>2680698
>Abrhamic Abrahamism makes no sense from an Abrahamic standpoint
Abrahamism is schizophrenia, regardless of what version you're going with.

>>2680698
idk who made this meme but only christcuck evangelicals dickride muh KJV hard even though it sloppily translates a lot of things like for example when the Israelites are covering up their own polytheistic past and destroying statues of Yahweh's wife, Asherah, the NRSV and other scholarly editions translates that properly, "Asherah poles" or "Asherah idols" while the retarded KJV just calls them "groves."

>>2680698
>Who created Christian Zionism?
Capitalists using the cover of christianity

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We are perverts for the end of the world. If only you knew how good things really are

>>2680984
michael heiser already reveals that revelation 12 references the birth of Christ (e.g. the age of pisces):
<Therefore Jesus Christ was born on Wednesday, September 11, 3 B.C., between 6:18 and 7:39 P.M., Palestine time. 
https://thelivingtruthfellowship.org/jesus-christ/when-was-jesus-born/

The ruling class of the United™ Snakkkes of ICErael and the United™ KKKingdom of "Great"BritPAIN and >Northern Ireland colony.

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*it makes no sense

there.

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>>2680698
They're called dispensationalists

>>2680698
End-times evangelical Christian Zionists believe that in order to usher in the rapture, apocalypse, and return of Jesus (who will establish a thousand-year kingdom), Israel has to exist and be controlled by the Jews. 144,000 Jews will be "saved" and become Christian, the rest will die and go to hell.

>>2681288
This should be classified as child abuse and all the adults involved should be sent to jail.

>>2681298

Protestantism should be outlawed tbh. It's inherently abusive (and heretical)

Evangelical American Christianity, they use moral issues and satanic panic such as gays, abortion, drugs and immigrants eroding 'christian culture' in the service of capitalism to co-opt the believers into supporting conservatism out of fear of God and against their self interest through 'asceticism'.

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>>2681288
>Every nation that has blessed Israel, God has blessed them

>>2681301
>heretical
there is no "correct" interpretation of your abrahamic spooks. you all call each other heretical in a comedic circular fingerpointing squad.

>>2681581
We know you're a fucking presbyterian, don't try to hide it.

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I pooped out a mad crazy Jewish golem

>>2680698
>a Christian standpoint
which one

>>2681288
reminder that zog isn't real and israel is just an american airbase

Wow no one here knows jack shit.

One of the early Christian Zionists was Isaac Newton.

>>2700106
ZOG is very. Stop with the "Muh America runs things" chomsky epstein propaganda. We know(((chomsky))) was a fraud now.

>>2700106
Oy Vey Rabbi, the goyim aren't falling for this one any more, we need to come up with a different line.

>>2700437
>>2700448
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_17th-century_wars_involving_the_Thirteen_Colonies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_18th-century_wars_involving_the_Thirteen_Colonies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States_in_the_18th_century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States_in_the_19th_century

Americans have been a violent, bestial, barbaric people long before Israel was ever created. Blaming everything on
>muh mossad handlers
is retarded cope because America never needed Israel's permission or orders in order to kill millions of innocents long before Zionism ever became a thing.

>>2700452
>Americans have been a violent, bestial, barbaric people long before Israel was ever created.
Scots-Irish. A lot of American settlers in the 1700s came from Ulster. They were one of the largest immigrant groups in North America. They liked to drink and fight a lot. I've gotten into a book about the American Revolution and it's interesting that Britain was considered a barbaric place (well makes sense) by continental European standards back then, and then you factor in that many of the settlers coming over were the rougher types from the British isles.

>>2700594
Say what you will about his economics, but Sowell has some pretty interesting observations regarding social relations in America.

>>2700604
Haven't read that book but it's my understanding that Sowell is a conservative economist who asserts that black Americans and the white Scots-Irish descendants are basically the same people shaped by an honor culture. Personal reputation and respect matters and you don't take insults lying down. In Trump's base you can get this combination of suspicion about spreading "democracy" which is perceived as isolationaist but they will enthusiastically support military force if it's perceived as restoring our image as being badasses who you don't want to mess with. The Scots-Irish settled in buffer zones between the established settlements and Indian country in part because of their reputation for violence. This was also the social base for Andrew Jackson, and political historians have referred to the Jacksonian tradition in American politics. That contributes to supporting Isreal now because they're perceived as being in the same "Judeo-Christian" "tribe." I guess there was a lot of ideological work done to make that seem natural even if that's not how people would've thought about it in the 18th century.

On this book about the American Revolution, an interesting thing about it is that it reads like a social / political conflict within the same empire that radicalized as England tried to tighten political control. The Boston Massacre was a soccer hooligan riot that you'd see in peripheral armpit cities in the U.K. / Northern Ireland which got out of control basically. It wasn't initially about independence but that's how previous social conflicts within this society about rights of commoners got sublated up to another level.

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>>2681297
which is an extremely retarded reading of the new testament and book of revelations which is just an anti roman imperialist critique in the language of jewish apocalyptic prophecy

>>2680698
>New Testament
This is only half of the bible. Christianity is a deeply judaistic religion.

>>2717037
what the fuck is this chat gpt slop kill yourself if you can't even write a couple paragraphs and need to AI slopify something in order to post

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spooks m8.


Its spooks all the way down.

>>2700106
oceania airstrip two

of course bibble study is no different than astrology as in you read whatever the fuck you want into it for example check this out:
from revelations there is, the beast from the sea (which could be netenyahu), the beast from the earth (which could be trump), the harlot/babylon the great (USA-Israel or global crapitalism), the kings of the earth (NATO), etc

>>2700101
nobody knows.

>>2717037
>>2726644
>abrahamikkkk spookkks

>>2680698
Protestants aren't Christian. Martin Luther rejected the Creed of Nicaea by arguing against a single unified Church.
A Thousand Years of Christian Tradition traded for Athari Tier Literalism.

Not that it matters. Christianity at it's core is a slave Religion telling you to be Docile Cattle. Judaism is an Ethnoreligious Cult about treating non Jews as Cattle. So they seem perfectly compatible with eachother to me.

Jesus having been a cool guy or whatever might be used in discussions trying to convince a Christcuck but it's not essential to Christianity as a whole.

russian saboteurtianity also makes no sense thoughever

>>2680751
Evangelical christian zionists are committing like 20 different heresies by being christian zionists.

>>2728515
>Martin Luther rejected the Creed of Nicaea by arguing against a single unified Church.
<There can only be one true visible Church. Of this our Catechism speaks in Question 192: "Whom do we call the true visible Church?" Answer: "The whole number of those who have, teach and confess the entire doctrine of the Word of God in all its purity, and among whom the Sacraments are duly administered according to Christ's institution."
Almost all protestant including Lutherans say that there is only one true church united by their faith in Christ. They just don't claim that their particular church institution, organization and doctrinal differences are the true church and that everybody outside it are damned like the eastern orthodoxy and catholics claim.

>>2730402
well, the creed of nicaea was just an agreement made by a bunch of people hundreds of years after the fact yeah? I am sure they had to arbitrate and settle on this using biblical arguments and sources (to a degree anyway) but it's still indirect, like a human interpretation of what is right more than anything directly stated by a divine source?


>>2728515
>Christianity at it's core is a slave Religion telling you to be Docile Cattle. Judaism is an Ethnoreligious Cult about treating non Jews as Cattle. So they seem perfectly compatible with eachother to me.
Christianity started out as the complete antithesis of late Roman values which was a rigidly oligarchical slave empire based on military domination and marked by crazy emperors, armies of hired of foreign soldiers, and a huge number of people living in conditions where they didn't expect things to get better so they got blackpilled and started slacking off or getting into decadent pasttimes if they could afford it (and most couldn't). But it's why fascists get into that Nietzschean stuff where you can crush and enslave.

But the idea behind Christianity is that "thou art in blame." Ye all are to blame for the corruption of the world! Everyone shares in the responsibility for the general unhappy fucked-upness of this world. No one could deny this, by the way. Also to become a Christian means you have to accept that, but you're also saved at the same time when you do. You ATONE for your sin, which was common in other religions that existed before Christianity, but Christianity did it for everybody and it really took off as the first real universal world religion in a Darwinian process of natural selection.

>>2680698
Modern Evangelical Zionism was literally funded by Jewish Zionists in the Lotos club who funded a guy to write an annotated bible that basically pushed Israeli Nationalism and Zionism called the Scofield Reference Bible which was then spread by Walter Rothschilds Oxford Publishing house (and continued to be edited by Jewish Zionists after Scofields death at the publishing house)

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Going from pretending to be one enemy to another enemy, regardless if they're opposed, and then non-sexually "waxing off" about how they're subhuman isn't white supremacy.

>>2680978
>christcuck
#####

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Read John 4:22

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>Flood

why do communists care if something makes sense from the KKKRISTIAN point of view?
is the marxism point of view not enough?
was it not enough to tolerate islamist animals? we have to accomodate for chirstcucks too now? what next? hindutva socialism?

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>>2700101
Only Orthodox, Catholic, and Marionite are valid.


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