>>2683720nope. they are loyal dogs.
>>2683728They are loyal to Capitalism not to Trump.
>>2683736They’re loyal to the constitution
>>2683667He will never openly come out as gay. Some people get perverse enjoyment from leading a double life.
>>2683673>There will be more competition but on a gigher more sophisticated levelDoes Trump actually understand Aufhebung? Is he a secret diamat wizard? I heard his advisers are reading Gramsci.
>>2683745I’m serious, generals worship the constitution, it’s the bible to them, that’s how they filter out anyone that could be a coupist
>>2683763if thats true why haven't they ever protected the constitution?
>>2683178>>2683707You don't. Just use historical figures like John Brown, Eugene Debbs, Silvia Rivera and Robert F. Williams. How is this difficult? The USA has a massive history of the workers and the oppressed to craft a mythology out of.
>>2683791Losers who accomplished nothing award
>>2683799every symbol of the current USA must be abandoned. you cannot carry over the same flag design. no stars. no stripes.
it's like trying to rehabilitate the swastika.
>>2683801Red stars are from the soviets
Black stripes instead of white stripes represent the overcoming of the white supremacist origins. Sublate means to overcome and yet preserve simultaneously. It's dialectics, I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>2683804looks like shit tbh, stars and bars gotta go
>>2683801>>2683804I mostly think the stars and bars are kind of cringe but I'm sure creative people can find a better flag for a second revolution.
>reading all these responses
I see so how about this instead of rehablitating the founders we instead say that the socialist revolution is the true implementer of american ideals of liberaty. The third american revolution
>>2683809>liberaty liberty
>>2683708The bourgeoisie do internationalism all the time, see the UN, EU, 5 eyes, NATO, SEATO, NAFTA, GATT, ITO, League of nations, etc. etc. etc.
Even the bourgeois revolutions in France and South America in the 1700s and 1800s took on an international character, and spread quickly from one country to the next. Bolivar literally got exiled 5 times, got help from Haiti in exchange for becoming more in favor of emancipation, and when he failed to overthrow Spanish monarchists in one country he would try to do so in a neighboring country. If the bourgeoisie can be internationalist, then so must the proletariat, if they wish to win.
>>2683796Not true, a couple of them managed to incorporate minorities into American imperialism
>>2683812All fake, all cynical, all crypto chauvinist
>>2683814how is internationalism crypto chauvinist, you schizo?
>>2683818It’s never actually internationalist, it’s all colonialism disguising itself
>>2683796Anyhow it's better than cocksucking Amerikkkan bloodgods.
>>2683820So let me get this straight, you think
>internationalism is impossible and not real>any actually existing internationalism is just fake and crypto chauvinist?>therefore don't bother even trying to do proletarian internationalism… like Greek workers blocking weapons shipments to israel… that's not internationalism, it's just crypto chauvinist…. right? correct me if I'm wrong. This is what you are saying?
>>2683804>It's dialecticsdialectards reproducing the old world instead of creating a new one case number 1.000.000.000
>>2683827Yes, it’s exactly what I’m saying, Greek unions are covering their ass
>>2683828sublate means to overcome while preserving, so yeah. your critique is purely aesthetic. you say it's like trying to rehabilitate the swastika, but that's a retarded example, because even the nazis don't have a monopoly on that symbol, they stole it in the first place and made it their own. It's a perfect example that socialists can also steal symbols and make it their own. for the record I don't actually advocate doing this for the American flag, I was just contributing an actual example to a conversation that was already going on: the biggest crime possible on leftypol. Even more offensive than saying stupid reactionary shit and endless bickering is actually creating something.
>>2683831so they shouldn't block weapons shipments to israel? because it's opportunist? they should let weapons get through instead? to show how honest they are? you're stupid or trolling. have a nice day. loser.
>>2683840Greece is still in NATO and still has a US/German puppet government, if Greek unions were serious that wouldn’t be the case
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>>2683842>dodged the question>moved the goalpostSlimy piece of shit.
>>2683847It’s not relevant what they block or don’t block, all any action within capitalism ever does is reinforce captialism
>>2683842>If the proles in a country were good the bourgeois state they live under wouldn't do bad things Retard
>>2683858
If you live in any western country, contribute to their economy, pay your taxes, you are materially a zionist, including the Palestinian diaspora here
>>2683855Proles are not a revolutionary class, never have been, never will be, Marx is dead and wrong
>>2683592People got overexcited because of NATOs failure in ukraine, and oct 7, and the domestic situation in america. It's not guaranteed yet that the west & NATO have been defeated like these youtubers keep saying for clickbait.
in the 1970s people thought the US was on its last legs, with riotors in the streets, the golden age of serial killers, bank robbers, wierd terroristic groups, satanic panics, the USSR was winning across the globe, and norman finklestein and his maoist reading group were plotting revolution.
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