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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Indigenous Cracker Expatriation Edition


💀List of Deaths in ICE Detention💀
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
• CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

🏚️ Local News 🏚️
https://www.50states.com/ce/

✊Live Protest Streams✊
https://woke.net/

🏝️ Epstein's Client List🏝️
https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures

🇮🇱 Track Zionazis (warning: ShareBlue)🇮🇱
https://www.trackaipac.com/

📖Read, Burgga, Read! 📖
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV

🔗 Weeks as Decades Reading List 🔐
https://houdinimagazine.com/weeks-as-decades-reading-list

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>>2683743
hahahaha

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>>2683667
He will never openly come out as gay. Some people get perverse enjoyment from leading a double life.

>>2683673
>There will be more competition but on a gigher more sophisticated level
Does Trump actually understand Aufhebung? Is he a secret diamat wizard? I heard his advisers are reading Gramsci.

>>2683745
I’m serious, generals worship the constitution, it’s the bible to them, that’s how they filter out anyone that could be a coupist

>>2683763
if thats true why haven't they ever protected the constitution?

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>>2683753
It's not just the gay stuff though. I'd never show my face anywhere I'd be recognized again, rather than wear the failed-cult-leader-rapist on my sleeve forever. Much less actively reinforcing that image, as a part of my resume of future-cult-leader-rapist qualifications.

Maupin definitely gets off the impunity of it.

>>2683178
>>2683707
You don't. Just use historical figures like John Brown, Eugene Debbs, Silvia Rivera and Robert F. Williams. How is this difficult? The USA has a massive history of the workers and the oppressed to craft a mythology out of.

>>2683178
thomas paine

>>2683782
Like seriously. How the fuck is this stuff difficult? There are a fuckton of Statesian saints of the workers and the oppressed.

>>2683791
Losers who accomplished nothing award

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>>2683799
every symbol of the current USA must be abandoned. you cannot carry over the same flag design. no stars. no stripes.

it's like trying to rehabilitate the swastika.

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>>2683178
>how do you make a form of socialism that praises the american founding fathers without over glorifying them
Venezuela already does this with Bolivar, who owned slaves. Not that I necessarily think dickriding the founding fathers is really necessary. in the USA we have a strong culture already of criticizing rather than praising the founding fathers, and we treat the civil war as "The Second Founding" and "America's Unfinished Revolution"

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>>2683801
Red stars are from the soviets
Black stripes instead of white stripes represent the overcoming of the white supremacist origins. Sublate means to overcome and yet preserve simultaneously. It's dialectics, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>2683804
looks like shit tbh, stars and bars gotta go

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>>2683801
>>2683804
I mostly think the stars and bars are kind of cringe but I'm sure creative people can find a better flag for a second revolution.

>reading all these responses
I see so how about this instead of rehablitating the founders we instead say that the socialist revolution is the true implementer of american ideals of liberaty. The third american revolution

>>2683796
Fair. But you can also claim Ho Chi Minh who worked in the USA for a while in the 1910s.

>>2683809
>liberaty
liberty

>>2683708
The bourgeoisie do internationalism all the time, see the UN, EU, 5 eyes, NATO, SEATO, NAFTA, GATT, ITO, League of nations, etc. etc. etc.

Even the bourgeois revolutions in France and South America in the 1700s and 1800s took on an international character, and spread quickly from one country to the next. Bolivar literally got exiled 5 times, got help from Haiti in exchange for becoming more in favor of emancipation, and when he failed to overthrow Spanish monarchists in one country he would try to do so in a neighboring country. If the bourgeoisie can be internationalist, then so must the proletariat, if they wish to win.

>>2683796
Not true, a couple of them managed to incorporate minorities into American imperialism

>>2683812
All fake, all cynical, all crypto chauvinist

>>2683809
Please stop with this Browderist line that socialism is as American as apple pie. There's no need for that. Just present the actual history and writing of revolutionaries and progressives.

>>2683814
how is internationalism crypto chauvinist, you schizo?

>>2683818
It’s never actually internationalist, it’s all colonialism disguising itself

>>2683796
Anyhow it's better than cocksucking Amerikkkan bloodgods.

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>>2683820
So let me get this straight, you think

>internationalism is impossible and not real

>any actually existing internationalism is just fake and crypto chauvinist?
>therefore don't bother even trying to do proletarian internationalism… like Greek workers blocking weapons shipments to israel… that's not internationalism, it's just crypto chauvinist….

right? correct me if I'm wrong. This is what you are saying?

>>2683804
>It's dialectics
dialectards reproducing the old world instead of creating a new one case number 1.000.000.000

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>>2683827
Yes, it’s exactly what I’m saying, Greek unions are covering their ass

>>2683828
sublate means to overcome while preserving, so yeah. your critique is purely aesthetic. you say it's like trying to rehabilitate the swastika, but that's a retarded example, because even the nazis don't have a monopoly on that symbol, they stole it in the first place and made it their own. It's a perfect example that socialists can also steal symbols and make it their own. for the record I don't actually advocate doing this for the American flag, I was just contributing an actual example to a conversation that was already going on: the biggest crime possible on leftypol. Even more offensive than saying stupid reactionary shit and endless bickering is actually creating something.

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we're gonna build an ML reading group instead. we're gonna vote on what policy to enact in order to build that reading group to read about what actions we can take to grow our reading group and hopefully in 4-6 years get someone elected to the city council but only if everyone in the group gives me their social media passwords (this is the real movement!)

>>2683831
so they shouldn't block weapons shipments to israel? because it's opportunist? they should let weapons get through instead? to show how honest they are? you're stupid or trolling. have a nice day. loser.

>>2683840
Greece is still in NATO and still has a US/German puppet government, if Greek unions were serious that wouldn’t be the case

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>>2683842
>dodged the question
>moved the goalpost
Slimy piece of shit.

>>2683847
It’s not relevant what they block or don’t block, all any action within capitalism ever does is reinforce captialism

>>2683842
>If the proles in a country were good the bourgeois state they live under wouldn't do bad things
Retard

>>2683847
He’s a Zionist. This is why he fears internationalism.

>>2683858
If you live in any western country, contribute to their economy, pay your taxes, you are materially a zionist, including the Palestinian diaspora here

>>2683855
Proles are not a revolutionary class, never have been, never will be, Marx is dead and wrong

>>2683859
>>2683860
Israel will perish in your lifetime.

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>>2683860
>when the nationalist cope hits

>>2683796
Harsh but true

>>2683860
wdhmbt

>>2683592
People got overexcited because of NATOs failure in ukraine, and oct 7, and the domestic situation in america. It's not guaranteed yet that the west & NATO have been defeated like these youtubers keep saying for clickbait.
in the 1970s people thought the US was on its last legs, with riotors in the streets, the golden age of serial killers, bank robbers, wierd terroristic groups, satanic panics, the USSR was winning across the globe, and norman finklestein and his maoist reading group were plotting revolution.


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