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Can someone explain why suddenly much of the entire left have suddenly decided that IP/Copyright is sacred and automation is bad?
They do realize that AI is probably the most important technological revolution in bringing about the material conditions for Socialism right? Combine it with cheap 3D printers in 10 years time and entire sectors of the economy are going to have their rate of profit absolutely annihilated. Yes, I will download that car thank you very much.
But suddenly swaths of the left is like "NOOOOOOO MY COPYRIGHT LAWS, MUH HUMAN INPUT OF LABOUR NOOOOOOOOO". The only leftist creators I've seen are pro Copyright are Haz and Peter Coffin, and they're both in this case, 100% correct from a Marxist or actual Socialist position.

>>2683390
redditors who write fanfic slop or furry porn worried they wont be able to life off commisions and have to toil like the rest of us

fuck off

>>2683390
fuck off.

>>2683390
We have artists who got butthurt about it. People also try to be contrarian by having reactionary attitudes towards new production technology.

As someone who literally wrote to politicians about Copyright laws needing to be driven back to 14 years and there is little even economic evidence of copyright being largely useful in the majority of cases past 7 years, meanwhile it does massive damage to public domain and public creativity (entire genres like DnB are copyright infingement btw).
Every time I've brought this up with any wannabe champaign socialist "creative" they've become frothing at the mouth embarrassed capitalists. To most artisan/creative types, their dream is to basically make one thing that gets huge, get a monopoly over it and have generations live off that wealth.
>>2683393
Get ahead of it and make the first great Yiff AI film. Seriously I cannot wait to see Paramounts face when Star Trek fans make a better Star Trek series in both writing and aesthetics than Kurtzman slop.

Material conditions determine what technology is successful. Technology for it's own sake is liberal madness.
>But suddenly swaths of the left is like "NOOOOOOO MY COPYRIGHT LAWS, MUH HUMAN INPUT OF LABOUR NOOOOOOOOO"
Twitter does not count as "huge swaths of the left" because if someone still has a twitter account, they're right of center.
>Haz
>Peter Coffin
Thinktank people don't count as left either. Touch digital grass.

Piss off

>>2683390
1. leftists are, demographically, high cultural capital workers who read. the primary practical products of AI at the moment are slop images/videos and bad prose. "why don't people who read like bad-but-not-bad-enough-to-be-fun writing?" gee, i don't know. it must be because they're all bourgeois.
2. the idea that current consumer-facing AI technologies are important for building socialism is nonsense. combine chatGPT with 3D printers and you get… fucking nothing. the technology simply does not work that way, and even if we handwave away making it work that way in future, you can't expect people to love a technology that doesn't exist yet on the basis that a sort-of-adjacent but annoying technology exists.
3. AI is aggressively forced by companies on users who don't want it. Is laptops coming with a button to launch Microsoft Copilot bringing about the material conditions for Socialism? The basic fact that users don't particularly care to use AI, and when they do, they don't particularly care to pay to do so really leaves you with two options: either everyone else - not just twitter furry pornographers - is wrong, or it really is just a very expensive toy.

>>2683393
while people worry about this, if they understood the dynamics of the world they were in, they wouldn't care. cultural goods derive their value from the social status of their producers and consumers, not from their mere existence. e.g. you commission the $3000 furry artist because he's the $3000 furry artist, not because his art is any better than an imitator who'll do it for $50. you commission me for $5 because you like the cut of my jib not because you couldn't find someone better.

a much bigger threat is gallery sites and image searches being filled up with slop, but most already have policies against that or filters.

yet another bait thread by some moron who has no clue what 'AI' is, what it entails, how it works and why there are valid reasons to be critical of the way it is developed and marketed.

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>>2683390
>NOOOOOOO MY COPYRIGHT LAWS, MUH HUMAN INPUT OF LABOUR NOOOOOOOOO
I dislike most generative ai because it sucks. Plain and simple. It's and incredibly high resource hog and for what? Memes? Shoddy bottom of the barrel "art"? Nightmarish porn?

AI is a perfect representation of late stage capitalism's stagnation for human development. With all the wealth, brains, and manpower backing this tech, it gave us what amounts to a mirror to our very own societal selves. A generalized representation of humanity as a whole summarized by a cold machine. And what the machine gave back to us after taking in everything we gave it (our entire history, our wants, our needs, our dreams, our data)? Absolute dogshit. Abysmal, basic, perverted, soulless shit. Is it because the AI is soulless? No. It is because humanity is soulless. Capitalism has stagnated human creativity, generative ai just reproduces that fact thousands of times a day at the expense of people's livelihoods, the environment, and personal privacy. AI spews an endless stream of unintelligible madness because humanity under capitalism can only produce an endless stream of unintelligible madness. That is the final achievement of any mode of production that has lost its usefulness.

clearly much of the online left are artisinal rather than proletarian, so think that their labour shouldnt be subject to the sweep of historical progress.

>>2683423
>a much bigger threat is gallery sites and image searches being filled up with slop, but most already have policies against that or filters.
The avalanche of AI slurry you have to sift through for reference material nowadays is very annoying for sure. Hopefully the filters will get better

>>2683418
>production technology is not material
Holy shit youre retarded.

>>2683390
>They do realize that AI is probably the most important technological revolution in bringing about the material conditions for Socialism right?
Ah yes, this is what the proletariats need to overthrow the rich. Go fuck yourself op.


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