/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2689997
Yes that is literally how it works in all communist countries.

>>2689989
Again how does this process help govern the state?
Having farce elections where the choice has already been made for the voters and the voters dont have a choice who to vote for.

>>2690004
Damn that's a lot of micromanagement

>>2690004
No, the central party does not in fact vet and screen and handpick every little candidate lol. Are you referring to how the people running must(obviously) be a party member?

>>2690012
Could you name some examples of this? Cause in the electoral systems of the ussr china vietnam and north korea the candidates for even mayoral and provincial offices are all chosen by the communist party officials.

>>2690010
Not really its not like xi jinping himslef is personally choosing the mayoral canidate of bumfuckgongzhinxong town.

>>2689548
the chairman of a revolutionary organisation is like a father to his children and sometimes he needs to instill some strict discipline

>>2690020
Then who does?

>>2690034
The local CCP party comitee for a city, town or province reccomends a candidate to the ccp organizational department who then approves or rejects them.

>>2690049
How many mbers does this "ccp" have?

>>2689548
>What do you think of communo-monarchism?
<implying nk is remotely communist
NK is not a monarchy, it's more of a family corporate business in nation form.

>>2689739
>kims are mascots, figureheads, who cares. the real work of running the state is done by other people.
Britain is aes too by these standards. 💀💀💀

>>2690052
I dont know? Google it

>>2690021
revolutionary gay sex cults

>>2690060
I already know the answer

>>2690063
Good for you?

>>2689548
I'm glad someone is bringing this up because im working on a fantasy alt history world and a government like this comes about at the end of the story so i wanna know what would happen after

>>2690049
What's the problem with such decisions being made by people who have had actual political training and been vetted?

>>2690078
Nothing i guess though its not democratic at all and the elections are really nothing more than a farce
The proles also get no say but hey who the fuck cares about them lol.

>>2690081
Can you explain why is voting democratic?

>>2690081
I don't want my country to be run by unqualified retards, and most chinese agree, gherefore it's democratic.

And you can just join the party if you want such rexponsibilities, 6% of the entire chinese population is in the party.

Next you're going to say each individual not having a say about where manholes are installed in the streets is undemocratic. There's people whose job it is to make such decisions

>>2690081
glow!! glow! I can see the glow radiating from you!

>>2690088
>yoi can't know anything about reality unless you determine it by vooooooting
Liberal metaphysics

>ccp is terrified
All 100 million of them?

>>2689742
Kim Jong Un is the head of state.

Let's just look at the DPRK State Constitution first:
Notable articles–
The Preamble: Kim Il Sung the Founding Father

Workers' Party Dictatorship of the Proletariat
Article 4: Sovereignty is in the workers (Worker's Party)
Article 5: Democratic Centralism
Article 11 & Article 12 (asserting worker's party leadership)

Ideological conformity
Article 81-82: Ideological / Political conformity.

The Supreme People's Assembly sovereignty asserted
Article 87: SPA (Supreme People's Assembly is the highest organ of State power.
Article 88: Legislative power is exercised by SPA; Standing Committee of SPA
may also exercise when not in session.
Article 90: SPA is elected for a term of 5 years;

Article 91 for Supreme People's Assembly:
- 1. Amend or supplement the Constitution
- 2. Adopt, amend, or supplement laws
- 3. Approve the major laws by Standing Committee when not in session.
- 4. Establish the basic principles of the State's domestic / foreign policies.
- 5. Elect or recall the President of the State Affairs Commission (The Leader)
- 6. Elect or recall the Chairman of the Standing Committee of the SPA.
- 7. Elect or recall the Vice President & members of the State Affairs Commission
On the recommendation of the President of the State Affairs Commission (The Leader)
- 8. Elect or recall the Vice-chairman, Secretary General, & members of the
Standing Committee of the SPA.
- 9. Elect or recall the Premier of the Cabinet.
- 10. Appoint Vice-Premiers, Chairmen, Ministers, & other members of Cabinet on
Recommendation of the Premier of the Cabinet
- 11. Appoint or remove the Prosecutor General of the Central Public Prosecutors Office.
12. Elect or recall the President of the Central Court
13. Eeect or recall the Chairmen, Vice-Chairmen, * members of the Committees of the Supreme People's Assembly
14. Deliberate & approve the State plan for the development of the national economy
15. deliberate & approve the State budget & the report on its implementing
16. Hear a report on the work of the Cabinet & the central bodies.
17. Decide on ratification & nullification of treaties suggested to the SPA.

Article 95: Items to be considered at the SPA are submitted by:
- The President of the State Affairs Commission (Leader)
- State Affairs Commission
- Standing Committee of the SPA
- The Cabinet & Committees of the SPA
- Also by the deputies

The Leader articles
Article 100. The President of the State Affairs Commission is the Leader & represents the State. (Head of State)
Article 101: The Leader is elected at the SPA according to the unanimous will
of all Korean people.
Article 102: Supreme Leader's term of office is the same as SPA.
(The term of office of SPA & Supreme Leader are together; 5 years).
Article 103: The Leader is commander-in-chief & directs armed forces.
Article 104: The Leader has authority to–
- 1. Direct the overall affairs of the State
- 2. Personally guide the work of the State Affairs Commission
- 3. Make public the laws & ordinance of the SPA & the major decrees / decisions
of the State Affairs Commission
- 4. Appoint or remove key cadres of the State
5. Appoint or recall diplomatic representatives in other countries.
6. Ratify or rescind major treaties w/ other countries.
7. Exercise the right of granting special pardon.
8. Proclaim state of emergency, state of war & mobilization.
9. Organize & direct the National Defence Committee in war-time.
…
Article 105: (or sometimes Article 104?) Supreme Leader issues orders.
Article 106: The Supreme Leader is accountable to the SPA.
(Supreme People's Assembly).

State Affairs Commission (headed by the leader)
Article 107: The State Affairs Commission is the Supreme Policy-oriented leadership body
Of State power.
Article 109: The term of the State Affairs is the same as that of the SPA.
(SPA / Supreme People's Assembly).
Article 110: State Affairs Commission has the duties & authority to:
- 1. Discuss & decide important policies of the State
- 2. Exercise supervision over the fulfilment of orders of the Supreme Leader
- 3. Abrogate decisions & directives of State organs which run counter to
the orders of the Supreme Leader & the State Affairs Commission.
- 4. Appoint or remove Vice-premiers, chairmen, ministers, & other members of the Cabinet
on the recommendation of the Preimer of the Cabinet WHEN the SPA is not in session.
Article 111. State Affairs Commission issues decrees, decisions, & directives.
Article 112. State Affairs Commission is accountable to the SPA (Supreme People's Assembly).

Notable powers in the Leader?
- Make laws?
:(SPA has that power as the supreme sovereign body, although Leader can submit items for discussion to SPA & discuss/decide important policies in the State Affairs Commission); "3. Make public the laws & ordinance of the SPA & the major decrees / decisions of the State Affairs Commission"

-Declare war/peace?
: - Can ratify or rescind major treaties w/ other countries – / Proclaim state of emergency, state of war & mobilization. / Perhaps has control of nuclear weapons?

-Appoint magistates/state officials?
: -4. Appoint or remove key cadres of the State / members of State Affairs Commission, etc

Give pardons
: - 7. Exercise the right of granting special pardon.

Then there's democratic centralism: once party doctrine is decided, all party members are obliged to follow–and DPRK basically is a one-party state, the majority of the SPA are party members and obliged to follow party doctrine, so in a way there are mechanisms of the Party ideology itself behind the DPRK State Constitution as extra layers.

It is debatable how much influence Kim Jong Un really has or if he is just like the King of Britain in being a figurehead mostly.

>>2690091
>vooting is unfair and doesnt count because i always keep losing them cries the ML'oid
If some random questionarie is actually true it would be quite ironic as the chinese government doesnt trust its people one bit.

>>2690100
Marxism values correctness over sentiment, it's not called "scientific socialism" for nothing.
Alien concept to a liberal, I know.

>>2690106
Then why does the correct assertation that china is undemocratic bother you?
Unlike the people here the CCP themselves are under no illusion that the reason they're in power is trough a popular mandate and not the fact they have an iron grip on and control all forms of political power, wealth and media in the country along with the military.

<picrel
Waow, thanks evil AI machine (BasedBasedBasedBased).
>>2690094
>he is just like the King of Britain in being a figurehead mostly
king is a large scale slum landlord so i'd say Big Kim has less power.

>>2690109
It's dialectical.

Also, liberals don't have a monopoly on the concept of "democracy".
Socialism is a dictatorship of the proletariat with some democratic mechanisms for the ruling class (proles in this case)
Just like capitalism isa dictatorship of the bourgeoisie with some democratic mechanisms for the ruling class (capitalists & donors)

They serve different purposes thrrefore don't have to be the same.
It's not like in capitalist countries you can just elect a communist government by popular will, so why the hypocrisy?

>>2690110
Juche is just by the book marxism-leninism with some bombastic stylistic flourishes, dunno why self professed marxists doubt this at all, they could just read it directly and see for themselves.

>>2689834
Wrong. Proletarian dictatorship is comprised of descendants of Revolution elected by proletarian democracy, not birthright. There is no legal birthright in Communist Korea. Communist meritocracy is not monarchy

Article 76.
Revolutionary fighters, the families of revolutionary and patriotic martyrs, the families of soldiers of the People’s Army and soldiers disabled on duty enjoy the special protection of the State and society.

>>2690056
That is actually retarded logic. Britain other "people" are capitalists who run the show

>>2690129
Working for them so far. They don't have to worry about getting bombed by the democratic west, pager-bombed by the west's genocidal colony, and having their country turned into a whorehouse managed by descendants of repressed fascists.

>>2690120
Even though I agree that it is just Marxism-Leninsm, DPRK has denied that it is Marxism-Leninism since around the time of KJI. Read pages 13 to 19.

>>2690110
>king is a large scale slum landlord so i'd say Big Kim has less power.
By convention, King receives 'advice' (it isn't really advice, they sort of have to follow the advice).
The royalty haven't been so powerful much after 1688.

>>2689548
>Kim Jong Un chooses teen daughter as heir, says Seoul
It's her turn

>>2690146
what does that gotta do with slum landlording?
Also ignoring extensive political advocacy and so on, btw
Fundamentally disingenuous.

>>2690161
According to AI, KJU has more wealth than Charles III.

>>2690166
Counting "unaccounted" assets for thee, but not for mee

>>2689706
yeah nah yi ruled joseon for 500 years and would be ruling to this very day had japanese not make them abdicate
north korea is the same hermit kingdom so things will be the same

>>2690166
This is like that youtube video that said Stalin was the richest man ever because he "owned" the entire soviet union

>>2690166
The royals have teams of people who create shell companies nonstop and move money through accounts for them. There's no way we really know the full extent of their fortune.

>>2689747
We share a board with people who actually unironically think such childish nonsense as "the american people voted trump into power" lmfao.

It's bleak out here man

>>2690333
when the fuck did i bomb norks?
anyway:
>hereditary rule
>isolationist
>chinese client
>position in life measured can be measures in distance to royal palace
<not joseon 2.0, you evil imperialist

Amerikkkan subhumans have no right to speak. They will bully, rape and murder with impunity and then dare to criticise their victims.

>>2690410
Dumb motherfucker.
This is your brain on NK News.
Not even once, anons.

Alunya and Grace are somewhere drinking together in a big party

>>2690412
You wont do shit.