/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I baked one of the /ukr/ threads a year(s?) ago and it got flooded with spam by Cucktin apologists mad that I replaced all the reactionary telegram links with communist telegrams instead. Never bothered to bake again after that.

>>2716922
Huh, fair enough. I don’t recall that far back so still gonna have to concede to being a tourist.

>>2716904
Being able to pull off a thread that's 100% Cucktin posters is an almost impossible task and could be done by only a mod/admin. That would immediately validate one of Tank Anon's paranoiac episodes in which he accused some Cucktin posters of being mods/admins just because there was laziness about his post reports.

>>2716925
We really DO need to remove at least intelslava. He's turned into a Trump slop account. Like, just replace him with rybar or someone.

>>2716938
No doubt, but honestly it would be interesting to see a thread where the majority of it isn’t just myself and my detractors quizzing me on thread lore, grammar, Russian politics and other ancillary topics.

Like perhaps extracting myself from the thread will ironically result in less cucktin posters on the basis they’re no longer imagining it’s getting to me, when I’ve repeatedly established I’m critical of NATO rather than supportive of Putin, which somehow gets forgotten in the lore of this thread.

>>2716938 (me)
Though I will concede that there are some Cucktin posters in other generals who are just a little TOO good at "remembering" details about posters.

>>2716927
I fluctuate a dozen times a thread between insulting you viciously and being civil to you because I try to treat all flag celebrity posters as ahistorical flagless posters. I think it would be a total mindfuck to you if you saw me pounding on you in a series of borderline spammy posts and then writing something tame in the next, but that is what happens as I blank-slate your posts.

>>2716969
And do you ever step back and think about what you are doing or nah?

>>2717003
Yes. I started this approach to flags about a year ago. I pat myself on the back for being such a fair dude. Granted, it's difficult at times to maintain with someone like King Lear, but I try my best.

>>2716969
Honestly I don’t really mind the insults because I don’t believe anyone actually holds a grudge or that I do live rent free in their heads, but it’s ruining the thread making every post about milking the lolcow, especially when they don’t seem to actually be lol’ing and the image of me they present as a zealous Putin fanatic is false. So what’s the motivation? Who’s benefiting? If they’re not unironically NAFOids and desperately fixated on killing the thread, then what is it?

>>2717123
I don't believe you're a Putin fanatic. I assume you're not into all that religious nuttery and traditional-values shit, and I also assume you're not a fan of the Trump flattery campaign. So far, so good.
Where it starts to get a bit, eh, fanatical is, well, just to pick an instance out of this thread, I don't believe for a second that you genuinely believe having dialogue with a guy like Budanov is a politically sound idea. So why would you defend it? I believe for the same reason your foes stubbornly refuse to give ground when Putin does something based: more about a personality clash than anything about Putin at all.

>>2717168
Well I’m sure in any given case there’s some logic driving the Kremlin’s actions and decisions (or the lack thereof). So I’m never actually defending anything as though it’s a decision I would personally take, so if it’s not that Budanov is rhetorically called a terrorist but is actually legally considered that by the Russian government, okay fine then there has to be another reason, my second guess being that for both sides they’re just satisfying Trump’s demand for negotiations and neither considers it to be negotiation in earnest. Therefore the Ukrainians sent Budanov whom the Russians said they wouldn’t negotiate, good PR points while Russia isn’t launching over the negotiating table to nick him, because they’re there to satisfy Trump and his rather sad attempts at being a dealmaker in a situation where his role is solely to give money to Ukraine and nothing more.

I don’t understand what anons find so disagreeable about trying to find the logic behind a situation, like if we were having a clash in opinions on what that logic is then fine, but calling someone a cuck or a bitch or a cunt isn’t an understanding of a situation or a political discussion. It’s the comments on a YouTube video or a single line post on a circlejerk subreddit.

Okay maybe anons want me to prepend everything by stating “it’s not what I would do”, but what I’d do is an irrelevancy and presenting alt history and what ifs where I and my mighty intellect were in charge isn’t really my thing.

If they’re dead fucking serious in believing they’d win this war already and their actual frustration is believing my attempts at ascertaining the logic behind the Russian state is a challenge to that belief and the only reason I’d be challenging it is because I’m merely gay for Putin and thus now the thread has to be about getting me to “admit” that and accept they really could win the conflict..

Then fuck man, the arrogance.

Repost from cyberspec:
🇷🇺The leader of "A Just Russia", Sergei Mironov, gave an exclusive comment to the channel "Military Observer" regarding the current situation around Iran:

The US aggression against Iran seriously undermines their credibility as participants in negotiations to resolve the conflict in Ukraine and once again convinces Russia of the need to continue the Special Military Operation (SMO).

Practically until the beginning of the bombings, the Americans continued contacts with the Iranians. Now it's obvious that they were just buying time to gather additional forces in the region. And then they presented Iran with an ultimatum and thus brought the negotiations to a deadlock.

Such is the strategy of "peaceful" negotiations.

The US initially set a goal to overthrow the government in Iran, as they did before in Venezuela, in order to install a regime loyal to them and extract economic benefits.

We have seen the same thing to varying degrees in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. These are typical wars of aggression for resources, which the US traditionally justifies with considerations of national security.

What is happening once again convinces us that the goals of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine must be achieved, in practice, not on paper. The West cannot be trusted - there are no moral and democratic principles there, international law has been destroyed. They have only one principle - their own benefit and profit. This is what we need to remember every time we are offered negotiations and called for peace.

Excuse the formatting since im on phone. Interesting how he doesnt directly mention putin or other advisors but its pretty clear that the criticism is towards them. This has now slowly become a regular occurence.

So what does victory mean for Russia now? Is it still the same objectives as ever?

I'm asking to take receipts in case Russia cucks out but then the usual suspects say "no this is what they wanted all along!"

So tell me, what is victory to Russia, and what is defeat to Russia? Be clear and concise.

>>2717276
They’ve, perhaps wisely, chosen to leave victory more open-ended. But defeat is definitely an end of hostilities without securing all the oblasts they held referendums in and accepted them as parts of Russia officially. IMO if Zelensky or anyone reasonably considered part of the current Banderite state is the leader by the end of hostilities, that’s a bit more ambiguous and entirely depends on how that leadership is received in peacetime. If they’re all arrested or exiled or killed then based, else if they able continue to run their fascist state with endless EU funding and Ukrainians continuing to be tolerant or even supportive of their continued leadership then Russia will have made a miscalculation in ending hostilities.

naziggers and zionazis do be like that fr fr no cap

Ideally the outcome, irregardless of territories, is that Ukrainians (if any still exist after mobilisation and post-war flight) go right off of Banderism as traitorous and return to a distrust of NATO after having been quite obviously exploited by them, to a genocidal degree.

>>2717231
Lavrov and Medvedev are the closest you're going to get to someone who 'matters' saying something similar, but Putin is hellbent on ouija boarding the spirit of Anchorage and having his envoy tweet out Miami surfing pics and Q drops in between trying to bribe American oligarchs with business deals they're not interested in, so good luck with that. The Russians will continue to express alarm about the situation with Venezuela, Cuba, India, Serbia, Syria, Iran, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, maybe even Belarus by the end of the year (which has joined Trump's stupid Piss Board) - and fail to connect the dots between that and Putin's cocksucking diplomacy and passive military policy outside little Donbass.

>Financial Times
>EU urges Ukraine to allow access to pipeline carrying Russian oil
Holy fuck, Iranian Chads have got the EU begging for mercy, tho unfortunately it's a moot point because Cuckler will send them that oil without imposing any harsh conditions at all.

>>2716785
>It does look like there's been an abrupt halt since the Iran attacks, but the reason is up for debate.
News dropping that Zelensky requested a 30-day drone ceasefire in Ukraine so that he could send his drone defense 'experts' to the Middle East. Russia's Middle Eastern allies may have persuaded Putin to accept.
Treacherous against Iran if true, but at least it's a change from Wait For Trump, eh?

>>2718992
>News dropping that Zelensky requested a 30-day drone ceasefire in Ukraine so that he could send his drone defense 'experts' to the Middle East.
>Russia's Middle Eastern allies may have persuaded Putin to accept.
the absolute state of cucktin

>>2719237
The mass drone waves suddenly stopped for an unknown reason. We now have a Bloomberg piece about Zelensky trying to pressure states in the Middle East to get Putin to agree to a 30-day drone ceasefire so he can send his 250%-of-drones-intercepted experts (lol) to the Middle East to help defend against Iranian drones. It presents a timely and plausible explanation for the sudden stop, but no real proof yet. I hope someone asks Peskov. His mealy-mouthed response will be the tell like it was last time when he first feigned ignorance of the 7-day energy ceasefire.

No WW3 yet. Iranian gigachads putting Kremlin restraint cucks to shame. Bruh, turns out you really can just take down surveillance drones, bomb bases of countries bombing or helping other countries to bomb yours, etc.

>>2719260
The difference is that Iran isn’t a nuclear armed state, there’s little reason therefore for either Israel or the US panik that conventional attacks will be followed up by nuclear ones.

But you know what? Whatever, we’ve already seen ITT cucktin posters flip flop between
>The conflict for Iran is completely different, it doesn’t prove us wrong about decap strikes
And
>The conflict for Iran is basically the same, it proves us correct about striking US bases within NATO

Also
>Bruh, turns out you really can just take down surveillance drones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Black_Sea_drone_incident

Also, stop seething about Putin in other threads, you’ve got this one for that.

>>2719264
Yes, I'm sureeee the US that cucks out over a non-nuclear-armed state isn't going to cuck out over a nuclear-armed-state.
Stop wetting the bed. You guys are tiresome at best with your fearmongering about the almighty America - and NATOid narrative controllers at worst.

>>2716596
>Fair enough then, I was unaware that Russia had officially charged him as a terrorist.
post saved to remind newcomers not to bother with this uninformed and mentally ill imbecile

>>2719278
Hypothetical WW3 scenarios all revolve around mutually nuclear armed states attacking each other, just get over yourself already.

>>2719282
How many posts have you saved by now in your champsoc folder?

I use a filter on all flags except the based Spurdo flag, but I made the mistake of announcing that, because the obsessed Cuckler protection squad decided to bypass the filter by using the Spurdo flag. Why they didn't just turn off the flag and bypass it that way, I don't know, but I guess the micro celebrities refuse to post without some permanence to their identities.

>>2719286
Stop being afraid of the US boogeyman, you manchild. The US walks away with its tail between its legs whenever it faces real resistance. It's not suicidal.

>>2719287
Thanks for the blog, you’re very different from flagfags

>>2719291
>Stop being afraid of the US boogeyman
Only NAFOids downplay the US like this, they blew up a school full of small kids over Iranian resistance.

>>2719294
NAFOids, like you, have an overinflated sense of US capabilities against Russia, which is why they're always whining that the US isn't doing anything.
I'm not afraid of your cowardly pedophile country hiding behind a proxy country, you fear-mongerer.

>>2719270
ChampSoc is never escaping the tails-Spurdo-around-leftypol-like-a-creep allegations, is he? Could ChampSoc very well be the Spurdo flag hijacker? The mystery deepens!

>>2719300
And I got called schizo

I think he might sit around doing F5 refresh on board searches for 'cucktin' because I've seen that flag pop up in one or two random lowbrow threads in /siberia/ to have a meltdown about someone calling Putin Cucktin he he

>>2719303
>I think champsoc is everywhere
And I think you have issues lol

>>2719309
>there are actually multiple champagne posters chimping out about one hurtful insult
Big if true. Lost twins? he he

>>2719311
Twin-themed he he

What would be the necessary conditions for Ukraine to capitulate?

First, the people could choose to end if they want it so. They have already tried to end the conflict by electing Zelensky, and it failed. He turned against much of his base. Elections have been postponed, Zelensky has a weak mandate and any form anti-war political expression, be it protests, parties, whatever, are explicitly outlawed. Ukraine has become a full-on dictatorship. A popular uprising is impossible when all the people who are opposed to the regime oppose it because they don't want to die.

Second, Ukraine could run out of armaments. This is impossible because Russia has chosen to not punish the countries which produce armaments for Ukraine. This was slowly forgotten during the Cold War because of all the proxy wars, but when one army supplies arms to another countries which is fighting a war, both of them become participants. Under international law Russia has the right to declare war on NATO. Of course it's understandable that Russia doesn't want to risk a nuclear war or if it's scared of taking on all of NATO, but if the other side is doing it… Russia could explore certain types of limited action. Attacking naval trade routes, overseas military bases, symbolic strikes, etc.

So is there anyone who could choose to end the war from the Ukrainian/NATO side other than the Ukrainian people, assuming that there is no general collapse in the fighting capabilities of the AFU? The Ukrainian political and business elite of course as there is no one else left. But when those people can still make money from legal and illegal activities, send it to a Western-aligned tax havens and quickly escape the country if Russia somehow wins in the future, there is no incentive for them at all to make peace. Decapitation strikes could make them feel the weight of the war the same way ordinary workers experience it. It would force them to either flee or finally put pressure on the government to adjust policy to the realities on the battlefield, hopefully leading to capitulation.

What we have instead is a slow extermination of the Ukrainian adult male population, sanctioned by all parties involved. If this process is completed, the Ukrainian army would collapse. This is the only way which will definitely lead to a Russian victory and isn't just a promise by a politician who clearly has other interests. The most ironic part is that the Ukrainian leaders with far-right nationalist backgrounds are the ones who are softer towards Russia. People like Budanov are hinting at an eventual ceasefire, while it's the NGOid Sorosites who are saying that Ukraine should continue fighting for several years and more, and refuse to even say the word "ceasefire". Therefore if Russia wants to achieve anything under its current strategy and with the mythical pro-Russian uprising nowhere in sight, they will be forced to make a deal with the nationalists and basically further nazify Ukraine. After all, why is it forbidden for a Ukrainian patriot to love Russia when both nations descend from the Rus? And maybe it was the Jews all along who orchestrated the Ukraine War on both sides to exterminate Slavs…

The most important thing is that Putin will go to heaven. He was respectful, kind, generous and honest to everyone around him, whether it be an oligarch wishing for trade channels with the West or his Ukrainian and NATO "colleagues".

Ever since The Champagne got added to the inferior Discoid lolcow list, it's not fun spectating anymore because too many rookies trying to tip the cow. Don't tip the fucking cow.

>>2719317
You’re all tryhards.
>im gonna save this post
>I see you on other boards
>youre sockpuppeting I know it
>I remember every irrelevant mistake you made and remind you of them every week
>im gonna tell newcomers not to talk to you
At the risk of saying something cliche, your priorities are bizarre for grown adults. Touch grass or better yet touch ass lmao

You're one of my favorite posters. I love your work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfTaE0RgHNo

>>2719324
Here >>2719330

kek, he is totally stalking Spurdo Anon around other generals. This is like the third or fourth time I've noticed neither of them posting in a general at all but then suddenly popping up one after the other with with Spurdo Anon first. That's some weirdass shit!

>>2719237
Looks like you've got a fan who's even crazier than you lmao. Careful of any dark vans you see from now on.