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Why are the bourgeoisie so unapologetically evil? I know this is a stupid question but its hard for me to fathom how a human being could be as malicious and uncaring as the bourgeoisie are. Do they not care at all for the suffering they cause humanity, and the destruction they bring to the planet as a whole? Or do they delusionally believe that what they are doing is somehow in the right?

>>2702562
>Why are the bourgeoisie so unapologetically evil?
because we allow them to by not killing them

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>>2702562
They all follow the philosophy of picrel.

>>2702562
>I know this is a stupid question
then why ask it

every single bourgeois could be le good and it would still make it necessary for the proletariat to take down capitalism

>>2702567
>every single bourgeois could be le good and it would still make it necessary for the proletariat to take down capitalism

I understand that of course. Its just wild to me how every member of the bourgeoisie seem to lack any basic levels of human empathy and the ability to feel any kind of guilt over their actions.

>>2702562
It's all pederasty and elephant walk fratbro secret society shit with the bourgeoisie. It's kind of sad but the bourgeoisie have a culture of toughening themselves up with drugs, trauma and rape. It's the same thing as how the Spartiate killed slaves for their initiation. The capitalist class has developed plenty of mechanisms to prevent class traitors. So the bourgeoisie believe they're far too gone to get out of the system or similar bullshit.

https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-part-i-spartan-school

>>2702562 It's in their material interests to be evil. To see the shared humanity in the proletarians they exploit, the indigenous peoples they displace, and the consumers they harm, is to lose market share to another porky who won't. There's more than enough superstructural psychological techniques to sever empathy for the oppressed and minimize if not nullify the guilt of their actions

>>2702570
>the bourgeoisie seem to lack any basic levels of human empathy and the ability to feel any kind of guilt over their actions.
Most of those at the top of class society feel those things they just feel them only for their equals, not for those who are below them. Do you feel guilty when you step on an ant? Thats how it is for them.

Rich people are evil because that's their material condition.

Ordinary people are limited in sin. When they are tempted to sin, they will be constrained either by lack of power, money or social pressure.

Rich people have the means to do anything they want, and they live in a society which drags you into degeneracy. All rich people are degenerate, that is their culture.

>>2702924
This isnt true. Theres plenty of people who have been in positions of high power and had the ability to engage in these sins, but didnt. Vladimir and Stalin never did any of the downright evil shit the bourgeoisie do, despite the fact they could have done it if they wanted to. The bourgeoisie capitalists are the only group of powerful people to ever be so immoral.

>>2703342
Because the bourgeoisie are unconstrained ideologically. It flows naturally from their individualism, the logical conclusion of which is satanism. It also explains why they can never have fun helping people.

>>2703344
Ayn Rand was quite firm on anti-feminism and other issues. I think capitalists do have severe ideological constraints, they're just really weird.

>>2702562

everyone is propagandized. They don't realize what they are doing is evil or exploitative. Just because they are rich doesn't mean they have more critical thinking skills than the average. It's not an excuse, I still support classicide, but most of the bourgeoisie are just as hypnotized by the spectacle as everyone else

>>2747563
i think its more that they dont think about it much. like, do you feel bad that you accidentally stepped on a few ants on your way to work?

>>2747579

Gonna sound like a lib here but I think the only porky that gets spared in the revolution is dolly parton. She created a fucking theme park to give jobs to people out of work after the coal bubble popped in appalachia. She'll also send you free book to read to your kid every week until kindergarten.
I know she's bougie but I can't think of any other rich person who's funded something for the explicit purpose of creating jobs. Normally they only fund things that destroy jobs.

>>2747579
The capitalists seethe about minorities and the poor all the time though?

>>2747592
Like who? Elon Musk? Most real porkies don't give a fuck about anything dude, not even Musk does. It's all vapid bullshit that serves only their ego one way or another. They just want to sit in their mansions on their islands and rape people and everything else can burn for all they care

>>2747563
I feel like they know what they are doing and most of them even have class-consciousness, but they either just rationalize everything away, or are literal sociopaths.

>>2747591
>she created a theme park to give people jobs
Aka employ them for their surplus value to take
shoot her and her pet bulldog

>>2747591
You're the type of uygha to glaze MrBeast

>>2702562
It's both.
They don't care and they're delusional.

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>>2747591
> le capitalist is just a job creator taking on risk

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>>2747591
>the only porky that gets spared in the revolution is dolly parton. She created a fucking theme park to give jobs to people out of work after the coal bubble popped in appalachia.

nihilists but rich

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>>2747591
>job creation


>>2702562
it's simple, they do it because they can

Because bourgeois positions select for low empathy, so that's the tendency. If a bougie has the opportunity to grow richer but refrains from doing so due to their morals, that leaves the opportunity vacant for another bougie to take.
Do note that bourgeois position don't usually select for other traits. Some are dull (Musk), some are smarter (Gates), some have low inhibition, while others have low self-awareness. So there's a multitude of different individuals composing this class.
Humans also always partake in ingroup behavior and bourgeois culture often involves displays of cruelty. An anon here correctly pointed out that the initiation rituals they have serve so everyone is compromised and thus willing to cooperate.

they are bored

I always though it was just people who just did evil even though i had the knowledge of evil consuming your entire life.

>>2702562
most of the time they aren't, as such. the wonders of modern organizational structure mean that nobody is responsible for evil things that happen. they just happen.
would you become evil just for going to a share trading site and clicking "buy"? the smug, glib answer you could give to play to the crowd is "yes", but you wouldn't really feel it in your heart. but you would be the shareholder who's value is to be maximized, you would be 1-millionth of the end that it's all supposedly for.

for everyone else: there's plenty of distractions, plenty more to be working on. if you think you're doing something for the greater good, or even something abstractly important, what does a little evil factor up against all the other practical problems you face?

also >>2752662

also-also: while occasionally it's just cope, it is also true that sometimes the most apparently evil bourgeoisie aren't so bad compared to the alternative. a sweatshop is evil, and all the evils of it are centralized in the figure of the owners of the sweatshop, but the alternative - everyone being subsistence farmers doomed to die next time there's a drought - is even more evil. it just lacks any individual to blame for that condition.


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