IRAN THREAD FOR ANTI-IMPERIALISTS
For a while now, threads related to Iran have been hijacked by an ultroid who bemoans the death of petit-bourgeois wreckers as 'prole deaths', who supports Israeli-American colour revolutions, and who openly cheers the Israeli-American bombing of Iran, without forgetting the obligatory russophobia and sinophobia. That OP is most probably a persian diasporoid faggot who added lefcuckism as his list of misfortunes.
We have been silent for far too long. We will now have this thread for honourable and dignified communists to discuss happenings in Iran.
105 posts and 20 image replies omitted.>>2711843your framing is on the side of the imperialists
i genuinely dont understand why leftists try to downplay american imperialism. just to feel like youre winning? so its all feels over reals?
>>2711976>i genuinely dont understand why leftists try to downplay american imperialismshadowboxing champion
are you baking your anti-campist thread yet?
>>2711984schizo, 'campists' are the ones opposing US imperialist interventions like the current actions against Iran
Bump
>>2711796Yet u remain an IMF shill, curious
>>2711726>who, among others, include communists and proletarians Communists who you would be calling leftist falsifiers if they were in the west
>>2710936His only sin, besides systematizing the massacre of communists, was being so fucking passive to the Great Satan
>>2711343This is how I know I am doing the right thing choosing to follow the path of communism. Look at my enemies. Utter fucking morons incapable of nuance. I am more sure I am right than I have ever been in my life
Human life doesn’t matter
>>2712078I would call anyone brave enough to organize a soviet or a strike my comrade.
>>2712417especially yours
>>2711840Alot of that is spent just on bases and upkeep. They need to spend alot because it is wholly inefficient
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>>2712474They could spend twice what China spends in total on upkeep alone and they'd still be outspending them
>>2710936>>2710932If multipolaroids don't shed a single tear for the thousands of communists murdered by Iranian Islamists why should I be upset over this pussy old fag getting blown to pieces?
Hopefully someone with actual balls can take over the Iranian state and actually fight AmeriKKKa/piSSrahell.
>>2711976Anti-americanism is necessary but not enough. The failure of Assad, Maduro and CUCKmenei in the past few months is proof of that.
>>2712562>If multipolaroids don't shed a single tear for the thousands of communists murdered by Iranian Islamists why should I be upset over this pussy old fag getting blown to pieces?<For the Socialist of another country cannot expose the government and bourgeoisie of a country at war with “his own” nation, and not only because he does not know that country’s language, history, specific features, etc., but also because such exposure is part of imperialist intrigue, and not an internationalist duty.<He is not an internationalist who vows and swears by internationalism. Only he is an internationalist who in a really internationalist way combats his own bourgeoisie, his own social-chauvinists, his own Kautskyites.t. Lenin
>>2712562Can you be upset about the elementary schoolgirls?
>>2712591they weren't proles yet
>>2712587You're right that I don't know the full history and language of Iran but if Iranian communists have historically opposed the Islamists and thousands have died in their fight against them is it really "imperialist intrigue" to not support the Ayatollah and their pussy ass efforts against AmeriKKKan imperialism?
Is "Just stick to criticizing your own country (of which I already do plenty) while ignoring everyone else" really what you got out of Lenin's internationalism?
>>2712616>Is "Just stick to criticizing your own country (of which I already do plenty) while ignoring everyone else" really what you got out of Lenin's internationalism?Yes, that's a huge part of it. The whole point of revolutionary defeatism is to turn the imperialist war into a civil war. How can you do that if you're just going on about how evil the targets of the imperialist war are? Even if you ignore the fact that America is an imperialist country and Iran is not, your goal is to turn people against your own government, and trust comrades in the "enemy" country to do the same to their government.
>>2712627Ok then I'll trust Iranian communists to behead and skin Islamists alive while I'll try to do the same to my country's porkies. Happy now?
>>2712641That's fine, I honestly have no issue with anti-campists as long as they are consistently committed to revolutionary defeatism (assuming you live in an imperialist country).
Iran doesn’t exist
>>2712649Man, it's like pulling teeth, isn't it.
You can feel the seethe and the lemon sucking when they're reminded they have to act locally.
Nothing’s happening
I wonder what the leftist discourse was in the West during the Iraq war and if it was okay to say that it's no big deal or even based because Iraq isn't communist or some shit. To mind that back in the day the imperialist bloc was less consolidated and even France defected from participating in the invasion, compared to today when it's one Epstein International hammering down everyone it doesn't like.
>>2712664I have done more locally than any one of y'all 3rd world strongmen bootlickers have done in your entire lives.
>>2712660Same for Venezuela and
Italy.
>>2712678That's based comrade, I'm just saying we need to get our priorities straight and not muddy the waters here. Our chief obligation as communists in this situation is to pull out all the stops and do everything we can to mobilize opposition to this war against Iran. Iranian communists can't ever establish a socialist state with the US waiting in the bushes to reinstall the Shah at the first sign of instability.
>>2712677Campists were still trying to gaslight communists that not dick riding Saddam was literally being in favor of AmeriKKKa raping and murdering thousands of people.
>>2712697Ah yes, both sides bad. Haven't heard that one before.
>>2712699There's only two sides, tankoid. The proletariat and the bourgeoisie and certainly one of them isn't bad.
Ah, the ol' reliable.
Bringing up the fact the origin of "third campism" refused to condemn Bay of Pigs and opposed US pulling out of Vietnam silences anti-campists immediately.
They'll be back, completely ignoring this fact. Maybe they feel entitled not to explain how they are different.
Wait really?
Schachtman got expelled from the Fourth International by Trotsky himself.
>In 1961 Hal Draper criticized Shachtman's refusal to condemn the Bay of Pigs Invasion, and in 1964 Draper helped to form the Independent Socialist Club. Shachtman favored a negotiated peace settlement rather than a unilateral US withdrawal from the Vietnam War.
>Over time, Shachtman's aggressive calls for the defeat of official communist nations' expansionism (the second camp) drifted rightward into support for the capitalist nations (the first camp).
You know it's bad, when Wikipedia is clowning on you. It's not real Trotskyism and it's not real Marxism. They got expelled from the first, and renounced the second.
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