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Iran should bomb police stations in Bahrain in support of the moderate rebel uprising
Also, looks like they hit the US embassy in Riyadh
>>2715647Are embassies actually important targets in real terms or is it some symbolic bs?
>>2715651why does he have a Christopher Walken cadence here
>>2715657Yeah but they'll still do nothing
>>2715677doing things is idealism and undialectical, ultra
>>2715682He's not lying. Anyone who still supports him wants to bomb Iran.
>>2715657What "w"?
"American opposition politician said a trivially true thing" isn't a w.
>>2715687Yeah there's no excuse any more
>>2715698
Funny. Dying for Israel is what you deserve.
>>2715697i mean, the kurds already launched a civil war
>>2715700why is he just saying that on TV?
>>2715698
mods, torture this retarded groyper to death
>>2715704Arguing for more money to war, obviously.
>>2715698
had to turn my brightness down this post is glowing so much
>>2715704it's the casus belli. from the same press conference:
>This operation needed to happen because Iran, in about a year or a year and a half, would have crossed the line of immunity, meaning they would have had so many short-range missiles and so many drones that no one could have done anything about it. >>2715697>I have ample evidence (including of money being doled out) of preparations for scenario 2Remember what we were saying a few threads ago about the CIA preferring ethnic groups and not liking the Persian nationalists.
>>2715704>Iran has nukes>Iraq has nukes>Iraq has anthraxI'm noticing a trend.
Massive numbers of aircraft refuelers currently heading to the middle east. Possibly in preparation of some sustained air campaign.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae04e6,ae0361,ae0358,ae026b,ae0599,ae05af,ae0504,ae04df,ae0486,ae0656,ae0391,ae0382,ae023eThis is interesting if you're curious about the TEL situation, an official US military report on Iran's ballistic missiles after the Twelve Day War
https://www.usmcu.edu/Outreach/Marine-Corps-University-Press/MES-Publications/MES-Insights/MCU-Insights-vol-16-no-5/>Therefore, assuming that targeting TELs during a conflict would permanently or even significantly diminish Iran’s missile-launch capacity is a miscalculation. While strikes can temporarily degrade operational readiness, the potential for replenishment and reconstruction of these systems is high due to their simple, cost-effective, and domestically sourced nature. Iran’s heavy truck industry, together with its experience in dual-use manufacturing and covert underground production facilities, provides the flexibility to rapidly replace or repurpose civilian vehicles into military launchers even under wartime conditions.>>2715714>not liking the Persian nationalists.I think it's because the problem with the Shah supporters is they're all outside of Iran. Got to at least make a beach head with one of these ethnic groups that are already on the ground.
>>2715712i guess they are counting on the innate stupidity of the average USAnian beast to not put two and two together and see that that means that they cannot 'win' the current war
>>2715719So is BIBI moving back to poland or what?
>>2715711Glo-? No. It's a regular /pol/-tard. They always come here during happenings. Go check IP count on the main page.
>>2715719good article thanks for sharing
>>2715712>meaning they would have had so many short-range missiles and so many drones that no one could have done anything about it.islamistGODS keep getting cooler and cooler
>>2715588Update on the tankers moving through Hormuz
BLOOMING DALE is officially sanctioned by the USA
POLA appears to have stopped moving or no longer transmitting
Yes, the straits are closed
https://tankertrackers.com/report/sanctioned >>2715719I'm gonna be honest: US military think-tankers are actually a pretty smart bunch and write very good reports about everything from local dynamics of insurgencies that they're fighting to this kind of stuff
But it doesn't matter because the people making the decisions don't read them and also they're usually retarded on top of that.
>>2715698
Based and real
>>2715707Is this believable? Does anyone here think Saudis lobbied for this war?
>>2715681American boomers literally worship Israel. Fucking nuts.
>>2715719They're welding missiles to trucks and some retards are still going "uh oh they're destroying the launchers this does not look good for iran" lmfao
>>2715700>six or seven hell nah we got the secretary of state clipfarming
>>2715732
Unfortunately Brian Berletic believes this line but he has a very "black box" mentality where he refuses to look at the components on the inside. In this case, given the protestant nature of america, a lot of positions that matter are occupied by either jewish zionists or christian zionists. If america was a catholic country, this would not be possible. A spanish colonization of north america would be a completely different geopolitical reality. Anyways, aside from epstein asset chomsky, the reason hinkle and piker refuse to accept the control of zog is because it would put them too close to the nazi camp. You can't talk about zog without sounding like a nazi so they do this weird shtick about imperialism even tho the zionists are not acting as rational actors but instead as ultra hardcore fanatics that feel everything is going according to plan.
Tldr
>publicly they have to talk bullshit about imperalism
>privately they know about zog but can't say it without sounding like nazis
>>2715697That xeet exaggerates MEK presence in Iran and acts as if they aren't also composed of cushy diaspoops living in Beverly Hills & Albania nowadays.
Also, the US is not gonna work with the Baloch groups cause they all have ties to ISIS lol. That only leaves the Kurdish ones.
>>2715738>>2715681Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
>>2715732
>zog deniers
You could get rid off all jews and some other faction of the rulling class would find a way to gamefy your psychopathic system of global hegemony in a similar parasitic manner, there is a reason all empires collapse and none last forever.
>>2715654Embassies are half way houses for glowies, political power players and usually staffed by political elites fail children or friends to give them an easy high paying job. It’s symbolic on multiple levels. Especially since there’s a ton of angry saudis trying to tear that embassy down. Hopeful they wise up and over throw their king before he turns Saudi Arabia into a giant theme park for Israelis and Americans.
>>2715692
manufactured opposition uploads propaganda that doesn't address the real problem
>>2715732
At this point denying ZOG is the crank position. What the fuck are Trump, Hegseth, Rubio etc? Antizionists?
There just isn't a rebuttal and denying the reality of ZOG just makes the left sound like they're in on it.
>>2715738 this is cult brainwashing on a large scale.
>>2715749or maybe geopolitics is more complex than
>hurr durrr x controls y >>2715753you're jewish
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2715753In this case, yes.
This started in the 1980s because of Jimmy Carter showing a bit of spine to Israel. Menachem Begin's cabinet determined that Israel could not accomplish objectives being on the good side of america and so that's when the blackmail started. Epstein started with the Iran Contra affair and then it progresses. Zionists play the long game so don't be surpised. After all, the modern internet is a creation of Epstein's buddies and most likely was created to collect data to feed data models which will be used for total enslavement and a project blue beam scenario where they will make AI Jesus or something similar.
>>2715759so called materialists when you ask them to do material analysis
>>2715732
>my attack dog without leash decided to attack, so I had no choice but to also shoot
why do you think there was no leash? why do you think this happens right before midterms? fucking iran up is part of the strategy to control middle east and prevent land route development between china and europe
>>2715737>Is this believable? Does anyone here think Saudis lobbied for this war?Sure, why not? I guess you could make a case for either direction, why the Saudis are lying about not doing that, or why some party might spread those rumors. So if you're saying you don't believe it, that means that these rumors were probably spread by Israel or US intelligence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/02/28/trump-iran-decision-saudi-arabia-israel/https://archive.is/Sw5Gu>President Donald Trump launched Saturday’s wide-ranging attack on Iran after a weeks-long lobbying effort by an unusual pair of U.S. allies in the Middle East — Israel and Saudi Arabia — according to four people familiar with the matter, as Israeli and U.S. forces teamed to topple Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei after nearly four decades in power.>Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman made multiple private phone calls to Trump over the past month advocating a U.S. attack, despite his public support for a diplomatic solution, the four people said. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, meanwhile, continued his long-running public campaign for U.S. strikes against what he views as an existential enemy of his country.https://www.axios.com/2026/01/31/saudi-us-strike-iran-kbs-trump>Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman (KBS) said in a private briefing on Friday in Washington that if President Trump doesn't follow through on his threats against Iran, the regime will end up stronger, four sources in the room tell Axios. I guess the only ones who know the truth are the parties involved. I think it's entirely plausible that MBS would push for it. Look at how their response has been since. Pushing for war with Iran totally seems like something he'd do.
Also Israel and Saudi Arabia are so tight, he just can't let that on too much or he's going to look like a punk to a lot of Muslims, he has to put on the song and dance of being anti-Israel. But the Zio media is pushing Saudia Arabia and Saudi-Israeli friendship so hard.
>>2715681>they're the chosen people!so you worship a god that has a chosen people that is… not you?
From the way Israelis are talking about the "launchers" of Iranians, you'd think that they're some sort of expensive vehicles or specialised military sites that take months to replace/repair rather than modified large trucks lol.
>>2715749nobody denies the entire amerikkkan rulling class is infested with zionists, what people deny is the idea that somehow capitalist imperialism would be "good" if you simply got rid of jews
also the zog theory makes it sound like the non-jews who are in on it are simply tricked or brainwashed or forced out of blackmail, or are simply just "jewish", you obfuscate the way Capital creates a structure of rewards and incentives
but I'm trying to become an islamist now so I will shut up about all this materialistslop soy crap
>>2715769What are they rioting about, anyway?
>>2715764>so you worship a god that has a chosen people that is… not you?Yes, brainrot in a nutshell. Even if god did choose me and "my people" and told me to commit genocides, I would be like
>who are you and what did you do to my god? going to sleep. hopefully there will be more strikes in tel aviv tonight
good night bros
>>2715753>geopolitiKKKsNGMI
>>2715732
Rubio is lying. Or at least he's being misleading enough to be lying. The U.S. and Israel jointly planned this war months ago. Israel didn't force Washington's hand here. The Iranians aren't stupid and pre-programmed their missile forces to launch at Israel and U.S. bases. But what Rubio does by saying that Israel would carry out an attack, and Iran would fire at U.S. bases in response (true) is to claim that the U.S. joining the attack is somehow America "defending" itself rather than acting as the aggressor. You can't avoid responsibility by just saying Israel bamboozled you into it.
>>2715763When Rachel Maddow did her monologue blaming the Arabs for starting this war and not even mentioning Israel's role, it didn't get your spidey senses tingling?
It's obvious what's going on here.
>>2715690ins't talabani an iranian ally?
>>2715776Good night leftychud. Remember you are here forever!
>>2715690The statement by the umbrella org was fairly non-commital, with language clearly signalling against action, just 'remain united as kurds, stay away from military installations and those with means help those that need'. Pretty anodyne stuff considering. They're hedging bets in-case of collapse.
Sounds like Trump admitting stovepiped intel from israel, lol. Pentagon had to be telling him a kurdish invasion/uprising to significant power centers of the country is a massive non-starter?
>>2715767Literally 90% of American war and aggression is for Israel.
Iran launches attack on US base in Kuwait
The IRGC says it has carried out a “new wave of attacks” on the Arifjan Base hosting US troops in Kuwait using 10 drones.
The drones successfully hit their targets, it claimed.
There was no immediate comment from Kuwait or the US.
>>2715789retard groyper
amerikkka will never be a moral or good nation, no matter what you blame you reassign from washington to tel aviv
>>2715789Are you an actual groyper or are you just larping? No hostile intent just curious.
>>2715790Fingers crossed for some good news
>>2715790BOMB AMERICAN BASES KILL KUWAITI SLAVEHOLDERS BLOCKADE OIL EXPORTS
>>2715792Masterful gambit, sir
>>2715777
>But no, the West is jewish supremacist, not White supremacist
same shit, you are just mad jewGODS left you out of the "good white people" club and are now in the "subhuman white" category like Shitler did with slavs
go donate to Nick now so he calls you a retard or whatever it is that makes you feel better
>>2715783Well I didn't see that clip. I get what you're saying and I said it could be a story planted by the Israelis or US, but ot cpuld also likely be true. I don't know how Maddow thinks she van pass the blame to the Arabs when Rubio is saying this:
>>2715732 >>2715790Would the yanks even admit to a bunch of their soldiers dying at once?
>>2715799I doubt it. Everything is psyops and PR. Bad for morale etc.
>>2715799The amount of shit they censor just so their won't be a bad word about Israel out in the news makes me believe, no. They would never try to make themselves look weaker than they are.
Iran claims attack on US forces in Dubai=
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps says its naval forces carried out a “complex attack with drones and missiles” targeting American forces in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
The IRGC has also claimed a drone attack on the Arifjan Base in Kuwait.
>>2715697>i have ample evidenceright. so where is the evidence?
>>2715792It's insane how bad they are at propaganda.
Was the propaganda always unnecessary and the powerful just thought it mattered, or have we just gotten to a point where people are so cynical and unplugged that it doesn't matter? Could Bush have just invaded Iraq with zero pretense?
>>2715814Saudis want this war, they consider Iran competition.
>>2715812>the powerful just thought it matteredWhen the USSR was around it forced America to show its best. Now? Well… see for yourself.
waiter! waiter! more dead zogbots please! make them crackkkers and hurry up! the goy boxes wont fill themselves!
>>2715814I think it's plausible too. I just don't think it happened and someone is lying. Most likely the admin sources who spoke to the journalist.
>>2715815That was before they finally realised Greater Israel wasn't a meme.
They thought a strong Israel would be Iran's problem and the USA would always save them.
They finally realised they're on the menu too, and that the US couldn't stop Israel if they wanted.
>>2715816Sure but obviously the USSR was already long gone by the time of 9/11 and the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq. Yet the US still put up a pretense of muh WMDs and Al-Qaeda connections and whatnot. Now with Iran there's basically nothing. It just happened, might makes right, too bad.
What I want to know is whether Bush could have just done that as well. Could he have just invaded Iraq, with minimal attempt at convincing propaganda? Was the propaganda unnecessary back then or has it BECOME unnecessary now due to cynicism/corruption/etc?
>>2715821>That was before they finally realised Greater Israel wasn't a meme. >They thought a strong Israel would be Iran's problem and the USA would always save them.>They finally realised they're on the menu too, and that the US couldn't stop Israel if they wanted.And other fun stories you can tell yourself.
>>2715821I'll believe that when I see it. Until then they are just cucks to Israel and would rather focus on enriching themselves and taking out their Shia competitors in the oil market.
>>2715824Yes. Fuck off Trump Golem.
>>2715816the internet also affected this
when it was just tv it was way easier to control the information ecosystem, you could get away with shit propaganda because the context allowed it
>>2715829
You voted for this >>2715698
>>2715829
What is even the strategy here for Israel, Gotta get those elite Qatar soldiers in the field? Why bother with this, US already had a base in Qatar and it was already getting hit by Iran
>>2715824stop acting like you are interested in actual analysis, you will just repeat "jewish" at everything, you are a subhuman conditioned by epsteinites online for years to be beyond recovery
go get in the goy box already
>>2715831Yet you voted for him
>>2715698 >>2715698
Fuentes has been downplaying Epstein though and supported the military actions in Venezuela (that emboldened Trump enough to do the same thing in Iran on a larger scale).
He's a retarded self-hating neo-Nazi twink that should go back to getting dicked and leave the rest of us alone.
>>2715832Cut off all options for Iran and make the conflict everyone vs Iran.
>>2715829
>muh wholesome chungus glowuyghur said something!
keep it
>>2715747>Especially since there’s a ton of angry saudis trying to tear that embassy down. lol
excuse me???
>>2715829
>Iran is not based actually!
thanks tucker
>>2715833>wants me to get in the goy box and die for israel>totally not jewish btw>>2715834Different anon, retard
>>2715836
They showed him a taste of the blackmail Epstein had been gathering for them for decades.
Explicit photos and video, far beyond anything we've seen in the files that leaves zero doubt.
>>2715769fucking wish iran targeted police stations or the royal compound there
>>2715843
no he isn't
Two new blasts heard in Riyadh: Report
The Reuters news agency is reporting two new blasts in Riyadh’s diplomatic quarter after Saudi authorities confirmed a strike on the US embassy in the city.
The agency cited two sources.
We’ll bring you more when we have it.
US sends more refuelling aircraft, fighter jets to the Middle East: Report
The US is bolstering its forces in the Middle East by deploying an additional 15 refueling aircraft, according to the Israel Hayom news outlet.
These aircraft allows for air-to-air supply to fighter jets and other military aircraft without having to land allowing for faster fuel transfer.
Israel Hayom also reported that the refueling aircraft were accompanied by fighter jets.
It did not say how many fighter jets were deployed.
>>2715812i think the latter. thank yaweh for the internet
>>2715843
Nah Matt Walsh is a total slimeball cuck and he will 100% fall in line with a war against Iran.
Rightoids always do this, when Trump says/does something REALLY bad (and/or something that contradicts their """values""") they give him very soft pushback to pretend they're independent thinkers, but when the marching orders come in they all fall in line and pretend like they always supported it.
>>2715836
>>2715843
This is hilarious. The dissonance between the leadership and the people couldn't be greater. These people think it's a good thing that we go to war for Israel. No shame. No attempt to come up with a cover story. This is what happens when you purge dissenters.
US Embassy in Riyadh struck by two drones, Saudi says
Saudi authorities said two drones struck the US Embassy in Riyadh early Tuesday, causing a limited fire and minor damage to the building.
“The US Embassy in Riyadh was subjected to an attack by two drones according to initial estimates, resulting in a limited fire and minor material damage to the building,” a spokesperson said.
>>2715837Is it not already that though, like who haven't they bombed lol
>>2715860Obviously Europe was always going to support the US in this despite their prior hemming and hawing about Greenland/etc, the question was regional powers in the Middle East. Not that they would directly ally with Iran, that would of course be ridiculous, just whether they would provide indirect support or at least stay neutral.
>>2715769People of Bahrain now is your chance to take over your government!
>>2715863>larping as a based nooticing Nazido you enjoy embarrassing yourself
NazBol didn't even last two years irl, and yet…
>>2715769Considering that most citizens in Muslim-majority countries are overwhelmingly anti-Zionist could we see a second "Arab Spring" come out of this? Anger over their leaders cucking themselves to Israel.
>>2715732
a zionist goverment is different from a zionist occupied goverment, remember: most zionists in the world are not even jews bu evangelical ameritards
>>2715851falling for groyper bait over and over again is why they keep coming back btw
>>2715866What causes people to say dumb shit like this?
>>2715870Seeing Bahrain I think that's totally possible except this version won't be a Western backed op. These Gulf states are all incredibly fragile
I’m starting to get worried Phrgumpth will actually get so butthurt he’ll drop a nuke on Tehran
>>2715870all arab states took steps to prevent something like the arab spring ever happening again
>>2715741>>2715767US appears to be "controlled" by Israel because US elites want the same things Israel wants. They see Israel as essential to the empire and its ability to dominate the Middle East and control global energy markets. Everything that the general public might want is always secondary to empire, and therefore Israel. The tension now is the public previously bought into the elite pro-israel line for the most part. Now that they don't the gulf between elite and public opinion has become so wide and that tension so great that there needs to be some explanation. Some people grab for "Israel controls our elites!". No, your elites just prioritize empire over you.
>>2715873At the time i think some of the alt-media crowd were hoping to angle for jobs in the new Trump administration. it didn't happen in the end. but they were soft on Trump and for ages, kept saying that poor ol trump was being fooled by his bad advisors.
>>2715824I was just curious. I respect your opinions but I believe them to be contradictory. Here is an example:
>What do you do with a pure 100% germanic angloid that "acts jewish" and what do you do with jews like Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Ben Norton, Norman Finklestein, Jeffrey Sachs, Dave Smith, the Anti-zionist rabbis etc.? >>2715856>>2715836This *is* the cover story you morons
They're playing the blame game now that the war is not going as planned
>>2715875what would even happen if Trump dropped a nuke? I feel like even that wouldn't be enough to have him removed at this point, and if/when MAD didn't occur it would just normalize the use of nukes in warfare
It's so fucked
>>2715880lmao you really think the Trump admin would throw Israel under the bus? please, it's the most Zionist administration in history
>>2715870if only iran bombed police stations in bahrain, jordan, and morocco (yes i know last one is technically impossible)
>>2715885You voted for that Zionist!
>>2715881Russia nukes ukraine almost certainly. NK to south korea too maybe?
GUYS STOP
i have some questions for knowledgeable anons, how are shias treated in kuwait? why are they not rising up like those in bahrain?
also, does kuwait engage in any shenanigans abroad like the uae, saudia and qatar? i never hear much about them
>>2715843
This whole things a fucking disaster I love it. Let chaos reign
>>2715863you can believe whatever you want, also I'm not even against zogposting :), I think Israel are the actually existing Nazis and agitating against them by any means is ok, you guys on the other hand are just losers that donate to a mexican "white supremacist" and shit and piss yourselves as he insults you, there is a reason ziorats are ok with you and fueled all your shit for years on 4cuck, they know you are not a danger to them, you are just docile cattle
1 hezbollah chad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100000000 white groypers, its that simple
now go get in the damn goy box already
>>2715887Damn ok wait if lvov gets glassed
>>2715890Groypers support most of those wars.
>Israeli army issues expulsion orders for 18 Lebanese towns
The Israeli army has issued expulsion orders for 18 Lebanese villages and towns, claiming they are being used by Hezbollah. These include locations in the Nabatieh area, Tyre district and the Beqaa valley. The move comes after Israel bombarded Beirut’s southern suburbs, following Hezbollah’s overnight attacks on Israel in retaliation for the killing of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
>Iran says will attack any ship trying to pass through Strait of Hormuz
A commander in Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has said the Strait of Hormuz is closed and warned that any vessel attempting to pass through will be attacked, according to Iranian state media. “The strait is closed. If anyone tries to pass, the heroes of the Revolutionary Guard and the regular navy will set those ships ablaze,” Ebrahim Jabari, a senior adviser to the IRGC’s commander-in-chief, said on Monday.
>>2715899can we stop having so many decades every week please
>>2715879Presumably something to do with jewish trickery or some other essentiallist spenglerite nonsense
>>2715902It hasn't even been 48 hours.
>>2715907I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about (you), and other scum like (you) threatening to split the Republicans, because they aren't racist and anti-semitic enough.
Empty threats, probably. You all are cucks that will fall in fucking line when told to by daddy.
>>2715909Rightoids aren't human.
>>2715877You have a lot of catching up to do. Maybe follow some antisemites on xitter so you can learn a thing or two.
>>2715911Learn how to vote for Zion Don?
>>2715913seethe little faggot
I wonder if these countries whose amerikkkan military bases have been blown to bits will refuse rebuilding these or just having new ones in the future. Probably not but a man can dream
>>2715927
can this uygha be banned
>>2715927
You admitted it >>2715698
>>2715930hes one of those based mexican tradcath groypers
>>2715931is this from the current war?
>>2715931I wonder how long Iran can spam missiles until they run out?
>>2715938longer than the US and Israel
>>2715651demokkkraps only become """"""""anti-""""""" interventionist in the most superficial and performative manner
Next of kin are being forced to sign NDAs. The number is far higher than 3
>>2715939ain't no way that's true given their respective resources
if it was exclusively Iran vs Israel maybe but the US must have a fuckton of missiles
>>2715940Says in the first pic.
>>2715869I’m so happy they’ve gone with this
>Obama was pretty much doing all the same shit as trump? Is a white man not allowed to do deportations, put kids in cages and do a bunch of war crimes?Next week(prolly sooner) they’ll go back to
>we wouldn’t be in this mess if Barack Hussein Obama didn’t open our borders and give the Kohmeni billions of dollars and nukes! >>2715944its definitely true, the americans are having a hard time shooting down even the Shaheds. a 20k projectile for a 2m interceptor is a great deal
>>2715942reminds me of groypers
im noooticing…
i wonder how many groypers will go vote for the (((demonkkkraps))) like the good cattle they are just because the mexican nonce told them to
>>2715944Iran uses truck missiles they park deep underground until the time comes to launch them that are apparently super cheap and can be easily moved. the usa and Israel has to spend a FUCK ton of money just to launch theirs. It's not really about who can launch more, at some point it just becomes uneconomical to keep spamming missiles.
>>2715944Iran is so much cheaper and has been stocking up for decades. US and Israel stuff is too fucking expensive and lacking in manufacturing capability to keep up, they're still running low from the last few years of Israel bombing everything in addition to being limited in rare Earth's by China. We've been seeing warnings about low stock pile for months.
>>2715914Ngl it kinda looks like Iraq and Lebanon might explode into civil wars before this is over. The PMUs and Hezbollah aren't going to sit out the conflict, and they won't stand down just because Beirut and Baghdad tell them to. So those governments are going to either have to let them operate freely (resulting in Ziomerican bombing of those countries, and probably Israeli invasion jn the case of Lebanon) or else go to war and try to disarm them.
>>2715938Apparently they're still building them even as the fighting continues. They have underground factories that are shielded from bombing.
>>2715949>if you are on tor you are a /pol/tardmeds
i have been fighting the poltards with the utmost resolution
>>2715944The U.S has been deindustrializating for decades and privatizing the defense industry. Who have increasingly been outsource and hiking up cost and lowering quality. The U.S does have impressive military tech but it’s expensive, and difficult to produce. The U.S is also very overextended in multiple theaters.
>>2715943source me up uygha
>“Because Israel was determined to act with or without the US, our commander in chief and the administration … had a very difficult decision to make,” House of Representatives Speaker Mike Johnson told reporters after the classified briefing.
>“In my view, right now … our military and the commander in chief, he is presiding over the completion of an operation that was limited in scope, limited in its objective, and absolutely necessary for our defense. I think that operation will be wound up quickly,” Johnson said.
oh my yaweh
>>2715959Can Israel open two new fronts while being bombed by Iran? I guess the U.S and Israel can just try bombing them into compliance. Also would syrias civil war start up again because of this? Lot shit seems like it can start spiraling out of control fast.
>>2715938probably months
years for the drones
>>2715953please Saudis rise the fuck up and take out your fake cuck monarchy
>>2715967No, Israel and the US don't have the manpower to deter popular uprisings. The restructuring of the US military in the 00's basically crippled its ability to project force through traditional means because they're terrified of the public turning against any war that involves boots on the ground.
>>2715972Saudis are the biggest treatler state on the planet. They love the monarchy for giving them UBI treats. You have better odds of the Indian slave laborers rising up.
>>2715950>>2715956>>2715958>>2715962if that's actually true that'd be something but I'll believe it when I see it
keep seeing America's "greatest enemies" fizzle out, I expect Iran to do the same
>>2715885americans have always been like that thoughbeit
Oil prices in the imperial core status?
>>2715971how do trumpist brains understand this
>>2715977>OSINTfriendmore like retardfriend amirite fellas
>>2715967>Can Israel open two new fronts while being bombed by Iran?Israel would only need to fight in Lebanon, and I'm sure the US would be capable of at the very least bombing targets in Iraq. I have no doubt that both of them would be capable of this at least for some time, however it would mean significant escalation. The IDF could probably sustain a serious ground campaign in Lebanon, but if the attacks on American assets in Iraq are strong enough then the US may have to consider a larger ground deployment, which at the very least would be very difficult politically.
>I guess the U.S and Israel can just try bombing them into complianceYou can't really bomb an insurgency out of existence. They can always regroup and keep fighting as long as their resolve remains intact. I think the only reason Hezbollah backed out of the war in Gaza was because the loss of Syria disrupted their supply lines and made it harder to bounce back from the mauling Israel gave them. But as we see here they're now confident enough to re-enter the conflict, indicating that they have at least partially rebuilt.
>Also would syrias civil war start up again because of this? I doubt it, the Alawites are the only group that is really pro-Iranian and they don't have any kind of pre-existing armed force.
>>2715977my armchair theory is Iran hacked Kuwait and caused the friendly fire incident. Do I have any evidence for this? Not at all but 3, that's crazy. 1 okay, shit happens but 3 has to be some kind of intentional.
>>2715972saudis love the monarchy, besides maybe the shia minority in the east that was until recently oppressed but they're not doing shit unlike shia bvlls in lebanon, iraq, bahrain and pakistan
>>2715980Why aren't you celebrating the virgin sacrifice for Purim? Are you an antisemite or something?
>>2715979america no longer relies on oil imports from the middle east. idont think they'll be affected too much
europe and china will be, though
>>2715961>i have been fighting the poltards with the utmost resolutionthats because youre a skitzo dog
>>2715977Why would the Iranians lie about that? If they had challenged and defeated the USAF over friendly territory this would be a massive propaganda win. American military propaganda protrays themselves as basically being invincible in the air. The F-15 is an especially big part of this mythology since they've never been shot down in a dogfight. If the Iranians had done this they would be screaming it from the rooftops.
>>2715993vgh so brave ;_; am israel chai
>>2715648>reasonable geopolitical analysis>randomly starts talking about the illuminatikek
can't deny it though the epstein leaks confirmed it
>>2715975Fair enough but Iran is different because there’s nothing to objectively win on any level. Even if the U.S collapses the state and Iran balkanizes. It’ll be a massive mountain fortress with a bunch of ex IRG guys with underground factories that can shit out ballistics missiles till Israel is flattened and a religious/political mandate to get revenge on the U.S and Israel. It would take a long and brutal decades long occupation to upend all that. All that and the global economy is crippled because the strait of Hormuz is closed, oil production is cratering because the M.E is massive sectarian war zone.
All for what? Iran was never a threat to either the U.S or Israel under Komheni. They were bending over backwards trying to get back into the U.S financial system and had zero ambitions to build a nuke. Now I’m aftermath of this we might have like 6 different factions trying to get nukes.
>>2715991>america no longer relies on oil imports from the middle eastcan they function with just venezuelan oil?
>>2715992not schizo I have simply abandoned materialism and adopted islamic idealism for as long as the war keeps going
>>2715980how is it that there aren't recall elections in all 50 states?
>>2716005allah doesnt exist
>>2716002> All that and the global economy is crippled because the strait of Hormuz is closed, oil production is cratering because the M.E is massive sectarian war zone. out there idea but the us could just occupy the coastal zone. that's where most of the oil is and there's also a local arab minority that could be co-opted specially with the help of gulf arabs
>>2715999religion must be destroyed
>>2715999yahweh definitely doesnt exist
>>2716002Even Iran repels the assault and wins a decisive military victory, it will still be locked out of international markets forever and sanctioned in to the dirt.
Iran has massive resource constraints and as put itself in a position where it has few if any reliable friends.
It will take decades to recover from the damage of this war, meanwhile its enemies will be back to full strength in a couple of years.
Time is not on their side.
>>2715993Third time's the charm?
>>2716001I hate not being able to tell whats real and whats AI anymore
>>2716008if you believe in "dialectics" you might as well believe in allah and other fairy tales
islamist idealists have done more damage to porky in the last 48 hours than any "materialist" in decades
Yo @Grok was an actual US aircraft carrier downed by iranian missiles?
Idealists havin hella impact on the material as of lately. Materialistsisters, your cope?
why aren't houthis joining the war
>>2716010thats not religiosity
>>2716020and you will always be docile goycattle mindraped by epstein and bannon :)
remember to vote for newsom as the mexican nonce told you!
>>2716009They wouldn’t be able to in less they completely crippled irans (or whatever future resistance groups) ballistic missile capabilities. Even then it would be an endless struggle with insurgents. Who would be far better trained and equipped than the Afghans.
>>2716024Houthis have been fighting a defensive insurgent war for most of their history. Leaving their positions might be suicidal.
Anyway Israel is doomed. Turns out restructuring the US military to replace all your munitions with $10,000,000 AI-powered missiles is a bad idea.
>>2716014wow yeah that'd sure be a problem for them in a world where china isn't the world's preeminent economic power and the US wasn't speedrunning towards a Soviet-style collapse
>>2716026it absolutely is
it's no different from christian larpers going on about the crusades
>>2716001Very nice. There hateboner for American Embassies has not abated
>>2716022materialists:
>im oooooooorganizing!!!idealists:
>bomb dubai<bomb dubai>bomb dubai>bomb dubai<bomb dubai>bomb dubai >>2716030their solution to this will be to make the "defense" budget 3 trillion dollars
I'm not even really joking
>>2715938they will never run out. if they even get close china will just allocate 0.01% of its capacity and start cranking them out by the thousands to send
>>2716014My point was EVEN if Iran collapses and balkanizes. Which is apparently what Israel and the U.S natsec state believe would be the best outcome. What they get is instead of a rational actor that was doing everything short of giving undying allegiance to Israel. What they’ll end up with is a bunch of decentralizated resistance groups with industrial capacity camped out in a mountain fortress. They won’t be incentivized or bound to work within the international framework. Long term it’s the worst case scenario and the chuckle fucks leading the charge are actively gunning for it.
>>2716040>God’s planI wonder if these guys worship the same god they THINK they worship
Most poeple are defacto satanists since they worship themselves.
Anyhoe.
>Check out this beauty >>2716040In the military there's a well-established "rule" that you're not supposed to talk about politics while you're in uniform, but under the current regime that only applies to speech critical of Trump. You can spout all the right-wing and religious fundamentalist bullshit you want with zero consequence. Given Trump's purges of the military it doesn't surprise me that the higher ups have all been replaced with nutcases.
That also means, in typical Trump fashion, that the military now values loyalty over competence, which will bite them in the ass if they're serious about starting a prolonged war.
>>2716045>Taking selfies with the unexploded ordinanceDarwin award time.
>>2716033>it's no different from christian larpers going on about the crusadesmost christians dont do this
>>2716031You overestimate the China-Iranian friendship. Iran shat on China twice (Sold out Huawei for JCPOA and refused an investment deal) and refuses to ask China for help when they're in deep shit, which is probably out of pride as well as distrust.
Iran is kind of a odd case really, it's like the autistic loner of nations.
>>2716041he's always looked like a goblin but god damn is he old
it's all old farts ruining everything
>>2716048Agreed. There is a serious level of CHUTZPAH when it comes to militant religious zionists
>>2716048yeah because most of them for all their faults are not fundamentalists, at most they celebrate Christmas and thank God when their favorite football team wins the Superbowl
whereas Israel is dominated by religious fundamentalists, all Israelis are brainwashed from birth
>>2716049well conveniently new leadership is coming in which might be more interested in thawing the china relationship
>>2716049>it's like the autistic loner of nations.everyone else is too zogged out in one way or another
>>2716056he only cares about his ballroom
>>2716033>it's no different from christian larpers going on about the crusades>>2716048>most christians dont do thisYou are right, I've never met a Christian that celebrates the crusades.
Christians just celebrate the Jews genocidal tales. It's really crazy how all these philosemites hate Christianity but love Judaism and running cover for Judaism when they have the exact same book, stories, culture, etc.
<The survey conducted by Professor Tamir Sorek of Pennsylvania State University, published here in Haaretz together with Professor Shay Hazkani, examined what the authors called "eliminatory" attitudes among Jewish Israelis and their theological roots.
<Other findings were grim: A majority of 56 percent of Jews supported the "transfer (forced expulsion) of Arab citizens of Israel to other countries." And when asked directly whether they agreed with the position that the IDF, "when conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites acted when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, namely, to kill all its inhabitants?" nearly half, 47 percent, agreed. >>2716053The reason is they kept winning wars and that made them think it was divine providence. This sort of thinking especially takes off after 1967.
>>2716054>>2716055The problem is that now China doesn't really trust them either. Every decision Iran makes digs them deeper into the shit.
Threat of high gas prices, but the markets don't seem overly rattled yet. The finbro bet is on Iran delivering strike packages for a couple of weeks and then agreeing to a ceasefire like last time.
>>2716058you mean the third temple?
>>2716062>The anon above knows things we don'tGoodnight everyone.
>>2716060oh yeah I'm very doomer about china actually doing shit. Maybe if Trump commits to a ground invasion, they'll decide it's time to make America bleed, but then who will buy treats from them
>>2716062I thought it was the fuhrerbunker
>>2716014If this war moves to a ceasefire without at least one of Trump, Bibi, Ben-Gvir being deep-sixed, I'm going to consider that a strategic cave on Iran's part.
>>2715648>illuminati gotta keep them on their toes
>>2716058>>2716056bullshit. he said there's nothing boring about that.
this is today's talk, where he gave medals to the families of the deceased.
>>2716064Yeah I don't see that happening except perhaps to give special forces some practice, or if they could somehow twist Pakistan's arm into sending in support. But that won't happen if Turkey vetos it.
>Latter Day Saints (LDS) believe that the Jews will build the Third Temple before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and after the Second Coming the Jews will accept Jesus as the Messiah. Most Jews will then embrace the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Then, it is believed, the Third Temple will be God's temple as Christ reigns on the earth, and it will become the Jerusalem LDS Temple.
zog? no. everyone dances to the mormon tune, even the jews
Seems like the IRGC has basically declared martial law today. They say the next stage of the US plan is to activate terror cells and cause internal unrest, so they've declared that rioting/protesting at this time will be considered direct cooperation with the enemy and ruthlessly crushed accordingly. Will have to see how this goes.
>>2716064america will keep buying treats. a treatless us public would be too dangerous
>>2716064Trump learned the measure of Xi and Putin last year when Xi was too eager to restore rare-earth deliveries after Trump tried killing China's economy and while Putin even to this day (after a likely assassination attempt approved by Trump) talks about the "spirit of Anchorage" and has his lead economic envoy dropping pro-Trump boomer slop.
>>2716076has Putin always been this cucked? I don't think 00's Putin would act like this
>>2716068Iran doesn't really care though since they've shown their ability to completely resist US invasion. This war is the greatest gift the theocracy and IRGC could've asked for.
They accepted the ceasefire last time so they could take their time analyzing the US/Israel's missile defense systems and it shows with how many missiles are getting through this time around.
>>2716072I mean I woulda said no way he is committing ground troops when this started but then a bunch of administration official were basically like "uh we'll do it if we have to" today. Still likely bluster but I'm sure there is someone whispering in his ear fantasies about a full scale ground invasion/emergency war powers/third term???
US troops fired on protesters storming consulate in Karachi: Report
The Reuters news agency is reporting that US Marines opened fire on Pakistani protesters during the storming of the Karachi consulate over the weekend.
The agency cited two US officials and its report marks the first confirmation that Marines were involved in firing at the protestors.
The officials told Reuters that it was unclear whether the rounds fired by Marines struck or killed anyone. They also did not know whether shots were also fired by others protecting the mission, including private security guards and local police.
At least 10 people were killed during the protest, when demonstrators breached the compound’s outer wall.
A provincial government spokesman, Sukhdev Assardas Hemnani, said “security” personnel had opened fire, without specifying their affiliation.
>>2716030okay but like they could just target infrastructure in saudi and the uae? specially the latter ffs
>>2716073>Latter Day Saints (LDS) believe that the Jews will build the Third Temple before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and after the Second Coming the Jews will accept Jesus as the Messiah.I am sorry, but it is the Christians who will accept Mohammed(PBUH) as their prophet when Jesus returns and tells them he wasn't really crucified and break all the crosses. The Jews will follow the dajjal(antichrist) because they hate Jesus.
>the Dajjal is said to emerge out in the east, although the specific location varies among the various sources.[3] The Dajjal will imitate the miracles performed by ʿĪsā, such as healing the sick and raising the dead, the latter done with the aid of demons (Shayāṭīn). He will deceive many people, such as weavers, magicians, half-castes, and children of prostitutes, but the majority of his followers will be Jews.[3] According to the Islamic eschatological narrative, the events related to the final battle before the Day of Judgment will proceed in the following order:
<11 Hadith also report on the “Greater Signs” of the end, which include the appearance of the Antichrist (Dajjal) and the reappearance of the prophet Jesus to join in battle with him at Dabbiq in Syria, as well as the arrival of the Mahdī, the “guided one.” As another hadith attributed to Alī ibn Abī Talib puts it, “Most of the Dajjal’s followers are Jews and children of fornication; God will kill him in Syria, at a pass called the Pass of Afiq, after three hours are gone from the day, at the hand of Jesus".[25]
>Jews are prophesied to be followers of the dajjal, as narrated by Anas bin Malik: <Seventy thousand of the Jews of Isbahan will follow the Dajjal, wearing Tayalisahs.[26]
>Some time after the appearance of the Dajjal, ʿĪsā will descend on a white minaret to the east of Damascus,[19] thought to be the Minaret of Isa located on the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus. He will descend from the heavens wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and his hands resting on the shoulders of two angels.[20] When he lowers his head it will seem as if water is flowing from his hair, when he raises his head, it will appear as though his hair is beaded with silvery pearls.[20] Every disbeliever who would smell the odor of his self would die.[21]
>The Dajjal will then be chased to the gate of Lod where he will be captured and killed by ʿĪsā.[3][19] ʿĪsā will then break the Christian cross, kill all the pigs, abolish the jizya tax, and establish peace among all nations.[22] >>2716077tbf, there is at least one difference between Xi and Putin that makes Xi the far better and smarter leader: Xi doesn't fail the
vs. saying nothing test. What is the
vs. saying nothing test? It's when a leader is so awful that saying nothing is vastly superior to what they're saying. Putin fails that test miserably. Nobody forced him to go on Russian TV lamenting that Trump didn't receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Nobody forces him to say tone-deaf shit like "spirit of Anchorage" or "We see that the current US administration is guided, first and foremost, by the interests of its own country, as it understands them. I believe this is a rational approach. But then, excuse me, Russia also reserves the right to be guided by our national interests. One of which, incidentally, is the restoration of full-fledged relations with the US" in the aftermath of strikes on pre-2022 Russian soil.
>>2716081In this case I think ground troops would be a huge strategic error but would represent a forced long-term commitment. So it would be horrible for the US but great for Israel.
>>2716079>They accepted the ceasefire last time so they could take their time analyzing the US/Israel's missile defense systems and it shows with how many missiles are getting through this time around.this is the power of the immortal wisdom of islamist-idealism
>>2716044it's not the worst. they get to pick them one by one and/or play them out against each other.
>>2716086>Every disbeliever who would smell the odor of his self would die.*SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFF* mmm quite pungent my dear- ACK
>>2716061>The finbro bet is on Iran delivering strike packages for a couple of weeks and then agreeing to a ceasefire like last timeOf course Iran is going to eventually look for a ceasefire, they know they can't destroy the US and Israel just with missile strikes. It's a question of reestablishing deterrence and getting the imperialists to cease their attack without having to give up their nuclear or missile programs. Fizzlecels will cope about it, but if this war ends with the Islamic Republic still intact, and the nuclear and missile programs still in place, then it will be a decisive Iranian victory.
>>2716085they said they were planning to resume attacking ships in the red sea and shooting missiles at Israel, but the didn't do anything. Either they were larping or they are coordinating actions more closely with Iran for maximum effect
>>2716095>It's a question of reestablishing deterrenceI knew they didn't reestablish deterrence last time, and I haven't seen them reestablish deterrence this time.
>>2716095>It's a question of reestablishing deterrence and getting the imperialists to cease their attack without having to give up their nuclear or missile programs.you are quite literally describing a fizzle you delusional sizzletard
deterrence = sizzlefuel
>>2715971>>2715981more about this.
little narco spilled the beans, now maga lost completely the script.
>>2716100Notice how it's not being discussed in mainstream spaces and how there are no footage's of this popping up.
They are going to memory-hole this.
>>2716098Like most /isg/ sizzlers, he'll swear up and down that Iran has restored deterrence until you ask him to commit to a post in which he declares that Israel/US won't go in for another round.
>>2716104Ugh, it's if the US senate approves it?
just saying but the longer this war goes on the more vulnerable the US looks. if Bahrain and Kuwait fall I wouldn't be surprised if idealists at home start getting emboldened by the US failures overseas. we might be finally entering the cool zone bros.
>>2716100doubt killing thirdies protesting the empire in a comprador country even registers in drumpf's orbit
>>2716095The only way to establish deterrence is by acquiring nukes
Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi says that the Civilian Government of Iran is no longer in charge of the military following the beheading strike by Israel and US against the leadership of the Islamic Republic
>What happened in Oman was not our choice.
>We have already told our Armed Forces to be careful about the targets they choose.
>Our military units are now, in fact, independent and somewhat isolated, and they are acting based on general instructions given to them in advance.
>>2716087A context, since you guys don't seem to appreciate it. It's Russia navigation system in Iranian drones attacking British base on Cyprus
Amazon cloud unit's data centers in UAE, Bahrain damaged in drone strikes
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/amazon-cloud-unit-flags-issues-bahrain-uae-data-centers-amid-iran-strikes-2026-03-02/I personally know somebody who works at Amazon in Germany and the late shift just had an issue that lasted about half an hour. Nobody could pick up and scan items because the scanners failed to connect to the database. If that's related, WTF? I thought that information about you ordering Dildos at
Amazon Germany was stored only in Germany and maybe Poland.
>>2716104>the argumentthe will of ba'al orders it
>>2716112is it a good idea to divulge this
>>2716119It is if you want the Israelis to stop massacring civilians in Tehran when they realize it won't end the war.
>>2716122I don't think that will stop them
>>2716122but then instead of concentrating on tehran which has the highest concentration of zionists they will attack other cities…
>>2716117Is this a recent statement? As of a few hours, it seems as though the Strait was 'open' (pending captains brave enough) but not officially closed by Iran
>>2716122LOL were you born yesterday?
>>2716128I think he means the IRG(BB)C is cucking the civilian government
>>2716126it happened today. i think like 3 or 4 hours ago
>>2716119>>2716112this basically means that Iran has entered in a state of war.
yanks are about to have another Afghanistan/Vietnam. good job, donnie.
>>2716097>I knew they didn't reestablish deterrence last timeThey kinda did, which is why the war ended in an Iranian victory. The Israelis backed off without achieving their goals and had to beg the Americans to do their ridiculous face saving publicity stunt with the B-2 strikes. They only attacked again because the unrest convinced them that the government was on the verge of collapse, and because they wanted to prevent a rebuilding of the missile program to a point that would make attack too risky to even consider. The present war is ironically a product of the success of the missile program, not its failure.
>and I haven't seen them reestablish deterrence this timeThen you're coping because they have aggressively struck every US-aligned asset in the region and refused to back down or negotiate. The Gulf Arabs are shitting their pants and haven't even retaliated once despite being hit by dozens of attacks. The Israelis and the US bases are on borrowed time since they will likely run out of interceptors before the Iranians run out of missiles. I think this war will end with the imperialists backing off after having achieved none of their goals.
>>2716107>just saying but the longer this war goes on the more vulnerable the US looks.What's stopped the US before is fear of how Russia and China would use the diversion to settle their own scores. But now the US knows that Russia and China won't do anything.
>>2716122Israelis target civilians as stress relief during wars tho?
>>2716135>They kinda didDude, lmao. They went for a greater decap strike than last time. Just be quiet.
>>2716122>Israeli>stop massacring civiliansLOL
>>2716127>communistsWho? In this world ideo-islamists are the only ones on zioporky's radar, this is the 21st century, not the 19th.
>>2716140Yeah in the hopes that it would lead to the collapse of the government and no meaningful response. In other words it's not that they weren't afraid of retaliation, but they thought that Iranians would be incapable of it. They clearly weren't prepared for how hard Iran has struck back.
>>2716143
yeah no shit. This is the guy with the kafir tattoo and other crusader shit that he flaunts every opportunity, why would you be surprised?
>>2716134We’re talking about an Afghanistan style war with over double the population and the ability to strike Israel and U.S military bases.
>>2716143
why are amerimutts complaining? i imagine you being a right wing christcuck freak goes hand in hand with wanting to join imperial enforcers
>>2716143
there's been a lot of talk over the past few years about how the US Christofascist regime's endgame is to bring about the rapture but I'll be surprised if they actually are going for it with this war not that they haven't made good on every insane thing so far that they've said they're gonna do
>>2716149I think the imperialists will fail and that they will not attempt another attack like this. The only exception will be if the government is already in a state of collapse the way Libya was.
>>2716150Most are just in it for gibs
>>2716087>>2716113>Taoglas, headquartered in Dublin, Ireland, is a manufacturer of RF antennas, RF Receivers, speakers and other modules.
>In July 2023, the European Commission engaged with the Irish Government after Taoglas components were discovered in Russian bombs used to attack Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War.B-begorah!
>>2716151Idealism volunrarism
>>2716153Vietnam is like the only example in history where the US bailed out of a war and didn't come back for revenge later. I'm pretty sure the US will keep trying until they get regime change in Iran even if it dooms the empire. They're simply too reliant on the Middle East for the empire's survival, and the Greater Israel project requires the extermination of all Muslims.
>>2716135>they have aggressively struck every US-aligned asset in the region and refused to back down or negotiate.The Islamic Republic mogs dengoid PRC and christcucktin's Russia so fucking hard bros…
>>2716146They very evidently and by definition didn't reestablish deterrence last time. I'm not sure why you'd say they did, "kinda" or otherwise, because it just puts your judgment into question when you say they're reestablishing deterrence this time, which is a claim to which I'm more sympathetic.
>>2715780i'm dumb but why do cops even cop? do they just not know that their owners are/were in the pockets of pedos? or they just don't care? what keeps them from rebelling, if enforcement branches rebelled then wtf do the elites have, really?
>>2716159>Idealismholy cope, don't make me tap the sign
>>2716035 >>2716162kek, a lot of bedwetting Z's on social media have been awfully silent given all their nonsense about what you supposedly can't do to British recon assets and bases without staring World War 3.
>>2716095i think Iran's goals here are bigger. It's to seriously hurt the US economy by collapsing the Gulf states and pushing them into a situation where they expel the US bases, which will re-order the entire regional security picture.
Just "surviving" and then stopping without fundamentally changing the balance of the region doesn't get them anywhere, they'll be right back here a few months down the line. I think Iran has finally realized that they don't gain anything by buying time or by negotiating. They have to settle this long term and i don't see them accepting any kind of ceasefire until they're either militarily defeated or they've reached a point where they believe the US can't or will never want to attack them again.
>>2716163I suppose you're right since they clesrly thought they would be able to attack them this time and get away with it. But what I'm getting at is that the reasons for this is not what people are claiming. It's not that they didnt think the Iranian missile arsenal was capable of causing seruous damage, its that they simply didn't think the Iranians would be able to respond this time. They thought that they would knock out the leadership and a popular uprising would topple the Islamic Republic. My point here is to address all the naysayers who seem to think that Iran didn't give them a bloody nose last time, or that their response this time is anything less than forceful and aggressive just because they didn't kill Bibi.
>>2716167if Russia took the ideo-islamistpill all of Europe would already belong to them, sadly, despite of their christianism they are still too materialist…
>be Zigga
>prepare for the onslaught of unfavorable comparisons between what the US can do and what Russia can do in the way of enemy elimination
>decide to handle it all with shaming about illegalities, morality, etc.
>instead get an onslaught of unfavorable comparisons between what Iran is willing to do and what Westophile Kremlin Yeltsinites are willing to do
>can't say anything, have to grin and bear it
:(
>>2716173>muh ziggersObsessed, rent free
>>2716102They never cover pro-Iranian protests, democracy only when it's convenient
>>2716175Your knee-jerk salty posting says more about you.
>>2716179yikes, touch grass, zealot
>>2716176>pro iranian protestsThose are fascists
>>2716159that's real nice but unfortunately materialist analysis doesn't apply to the decisions made by lunatics who have seized power and have forfeited all rationality, including their own self-interests over a long-term (if indeed there will be a "long-term"), because they literally no longer believe that material reality applies to them.
Be easy on the Zigs. They're seething rn with how pathetic Iranian ballers have made them look as they kiss Trump's ass.
>>2716165Compartmentalization.
Basically divide and conquer so the enforcers don't rebel. If problematic officers are found, they are fired or punished publicly so others don't rebel. This works only if the population is under control. If too much public rebellion, compartmentailization fails and you then see security forces jump ship. Basically the central government needs to lose control of the masses.
This is le interimperialist conflict
>>2716189Le division of le labour
>>2716190how DARE you call American self-defence imperialism?!?!?!
>>2716186I like making fun of ziggys as much as the next materialist but they might get emboldened by the US failure and get more aggressive with Ukraine.
>>2716186A pleasant consequence of this war is the military leadership of russia might force the cuck into retirement. Spirit of anchorage is haunting his underwear.
Thank you iran for cucking russia. Russians desperately wants americas approval like a battered spouse. Weak loser country this russia.
>>2716197>>2716196My point in one picture.
>>2716197I always thought it would be great if the hardliners deposed the Yeltsinite cuck and went ham on Ukraine, but I've reached the point where I doubt they even exist. Everyone who looks like a hardliner in Russia merely toes Putin's line.
>>2716178>IRAN IS 50 NORTH KOREASKNEEL
>>2716169>they'll be right back here a few months down the lineIf this attack fails then it will pretty conclusively establish that the imperialists can't dislodge Iran's government or even seriously impact its missile program just with a bombing campaign. It will also totally sour the political appetite (especially in the US) for further military aggression. If that's the case I don't see what the point would be of trying again since it would just produce the same result. I think the broader conflict is simply a strategic stalemate. Neither side can neutralize the other through military means, and so the standoff will continue. I would expect the US to abandon a military solution and pour all their efforts to subversion and colour revolution activities.
Your point about the US bases in the Gulf is interesting though, since if anything could plausibly change the strategic situation it would be that. I'm sure Iran would be thrilled to achieve this (and no doubt that's part of why they are striking these countries so aggressively), but I'm not even sure the Gulf states could function without being military outposts and satellites of the US.
>>2716201anyone who's not loyal gets poisoned or falls out a window
>>2716203There WIll be war.
>>2716201All capable leaders got killed, fsb'd, fired, or reassigned to middle of nowhere. Cucktin has been a disaster for russia. He is basically bill clinton.
>>2716205He reaches a bit too hard and acts overconfident. You can tell he sniffs his own farts way too much. But his material analyses are accurate when he isn't inserting conspiracy theories or arguing about "willpower" and other intangible bullshit.
Also his video on the 2nd American Civil War has the prediction that America will be taken over by neo-nazi special forces groups so uh I hope he's wrong on that one.
>>2716204This won't lead to any change in their thinking however
>>2716214>its the CUCKTIN HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RUSSIA'S FAILUREnah
>>2716203These monarchies are long overdue for a revolution. If Iran imposes a blockade, like the one USA does to Cuba, monarchies will undergo revolts real damn fast
>>2716217Ok so all of russia is cucks? Quite possible.
>>2716210ngl Bahrain is where I'm most focused during this conflict in terms of "potential for revolution" shit is absolutely popping off
>>2716210someone posted this video saying it was tel aviv
and *i* think i saw it last year
>>2716219>all of russia is cucks?Nah there are a few islamists there, otherwise nothing explains why it hasn't been destroyed by the banderites and NATO already.
>>2716219not him, but apparently 99.99% of the opposition party members and members of the public are happy for Putin's hand-picked boy Kirill Dmitriev to go around dropping screenshots of Q posts on Twitter, calling Trump Daddy, saying Trump walks like a king, posting Miami surfing pics, etc., so I definitely don't discount the cuck-nation theory as much as I used to when I blamed Putin for everything.
>>2716218Iran doesn't have the capacity to blockade them since that requires a strong navy. They could make the Persian Gulf too dangerous to navigate, but the Gulf states could still be supplied overland through Saudi Arabia.
>>2716221unfortunately any revolution there would extremely short lived since it's just a tiny island and iran could never help them. they'll just be ruthlessly crushed by the gcc when the war ends if they topple the monarchy
>>2716225idealist truke
materialists will cope
>>2716226There are no supply lines for that, it was all done by the sea.
>>2716226how many highways connect the uae with saudi? although i supposed iran doesn't really have the capability to track overland shipments anyway
>>2716222I got the view from one Iranian news channel, HispanTv.
Oil prices rise for a third day
Oil prices have risen for a third day as the widening US-Israeli conflict with Iran and threats to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz heightened fears of supply disruptions.
Brent crude future were at $79.44 a barrel, up $1.70 or 2.2 percent, by 04:00 GMT on Tuesday, the Reuters news agency reported.
On Monday, the contract surged to as high as $82.37, its highest since January 2025, though it pared those gains to settle 6.7 percent higher.
US West Texas Intermediate crude also jumped $1.17 or 1.6 percent, to $72.40 a barrel. In the previous session, the contract initially climbed to its highest since June 2025 before sliding back to still settle up 6.3 percent.
“With no quick de-escalation in sight, the Strait of Hormuz effectively closed and Iran showing a willingness to target energy infrastructure in the region, upside risks remain and they grow the longer the conflict drags on,” Tony Sycamore, IG market analyst, was quoted by Reuters as saying.
>>2716224>>2716223So they are cucks. I agree.
>>2716225a year ago mentioning a Jewish Supremacist conspiracy or Zionist control of the media would get you banned
a month ago posting ZOG or zogbot would get you banned
post-Epstein it's not even in question anymore. the goyim are waking up and it is not good for the armies of Baal. it is good for global solidarity though. I hope the Left don't mistake this for a "we must stand with the good jews" situation and instead focus on normalizing the relationship between jews and goyim. giving them any more exceptionalism just adds fuel to the nazi/fascist narrative and I'd really rather not let them gain political ground here.
>>2716237What does it matter?
There's always been some bad blood between the Clinton/Obama factions and Netanyahu. My little theory I have no idea how to prove is that the US deep-state approach to Iran was the Obama-era nuclear deal but that Trump was too dumb to consider that the reason for the deal is that the US had already accomplished with a US-appeasing regime what he thinks he's trying to accomplish now lmao.
>>2716237What is marx's stance?
>>2716241It does matter, rhetorically and materially, if a people think they are under occupation by a foreign force that doesn't have their best interests in mind.
Of course, for leftists it's to our advantage to push this narrative and convince the people that the bourgeois are "Not Like Us", but using race for those purposes is unnecessary when we can simply talk about the Epstein pedo cabal instead.
>>2716242what's your point exactly?
>>2716243 (me)
Hence the throwing Trump under the bus from even surprising sources.
>>2716243Trump tore up the deal because it happened under Obama, it's that simple.
>>2716205This guy is a retard and a Holocaust denier. He also thinks he's capable of creating psychohistory, a fictional plot device from the Foundation series of books by Isaac Asimov. He also isn't a professor, he's a secondary education teacher. Just because he calls himself professor and has an Asian accent doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about.
>>2716245>muh occupation muh foreign forceWhat a poltard
>>2716238Unless a critical mass of people are mobilized enough to propel revolutions that nationalize central banks and take them away from Rothschild control, it won't matter.
>>2716241Those who control central banks by definition are the wealthiest and most powerful agents within a capitalist economy. Bankers literally create currency out of thin air, it's all a scam.
>>2716247No doubt. And US intel didn't inform him of the reason for the deal because they didn't trust him not to open his fat mouth and spill lmao. It was an open secret, however, that the Iranian rulers were friendly enough toward American interests. Hell, look how passive they were with what was going on in the Middle East until Israel hit them.
>>2716254Nah. Fake quote. Marx is quoting or paraphrasing Bauer here. Kys poltard
>>2716245>wrote an email to 42 people one month after 9/11 dreaming of a world without Arabsthat's literally every white American over 40 at the time
>>2716258And? What does it matter if its jews or not?
>>2716260Israel likely considers Iran to be the biggest obstacle to Greater Israel.
>>2716243>There's always been some bad blood between the Clinton/Obama factions and NetanyahuI think that American liberals have always been aware that Israel can do more harm than good to American interests if they aren't kept on a short leash. They clearly favoured engagement as the best way to neutralize Iran, the time tested strategy of coaxing a national bourgeoisie into becoming a comprador bourgeoisie by appealing to their most bourgeois instincts, i.e. pursuit of profit. The conservatives were always more hawkish on Iran, I guess not trusting that the Islamic Republic could be sufficiently subordinated via economic incentives. Looking back I suppose they were worried about it being a half-measure similar to what happened with Russia or China. These countries were brought into the Western trade and diplomatic fold for some time, but they retained their independence and capacity to break with the US when they saw fit. The hardliners in Washington clearly wanted to avoid a situation like that with Iran, but in doing so they've gotten themselves into a war that it doesn't seem they can win.
>>2716269Iranian oil is already you know
>>2716262>Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism – huckstering and its preconditions – the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, and because the conflict between man’s individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.
>The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism.Was he paraphrasing or quoting here?
Kamala unironically wouldn't have done this.
Total radlib victory.
>>2716268You aren't denying it.
>>2716265Honestly Bibi's stance towards Iran really only makes sense if you rely on ideological explanations or else petty politics. It seems like some combination of fanaticism for something like greater Israel, or else Likud desperately needing conflict to scare people into voting for them (which conveniently keeps Bibi in office instead of being prosecuted). From a broader and purely rational point of view of the Israeli ruling class, it makes far more sense to convince/bribe Iran to cease support for the Palestinian cause, normalize relations with the rest of the Middle East, and just enjoy the success of the Zionist project. Eventually it might even reach a point where they could expell all the Palestinians and nobody would care.
>>2716274The terrifying thing about Bibi is how obvious the manipulation attempts are. He has more sophisticated attempts at his disposal, but he knows they're not needed for the American cattle and believes in economy of effort.
>>2716280Do you think class arguments were relevant to the civil rights movement? Class is not the be all end all of human relationships. People are inherently distrustful of "outsiders" and we must work to combat this distrust and reasonably explain the conspiracies from a left-wing, class-focused perspective instead of just pretending they don't exist.
>"Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every Pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets."https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Russian_LoanINB4:
>He didn't write it!I'll find you scans of the book where his daughter and son and law published it. For whatever reason she believes he wrote it. I'm going to have to side with her opinion more than yours seeing as she was closer to him.
>>2716287>Do you think class arguments were relevant to the civil rights movement?Yes, MLK and other civil rights and Black Power leaders wrote extensively about the role class played in white supremacy and the role class struggle would play in defeating it.
>>2716288And? What point do you think he is making?
>>2716291I dunno you tell me.
>>2716292It is you who posted it.
>muh jews muh jesuits >>2716283That would require Iran to be as corrupt as the United States where you can just appeal to their financial interest to abandon the Palestinians. But Iranians view it as an ideological, holy battle to defend their brethren. This is what pisses off the Israelis so much, when a foe is so idealistic and self-assured in their righteousness that you can't simply bribe or blackmail them the way they normally do.
>>2716290Not exactly the same thing since the working class white man was still engaged in oppressing the working class black man. The ultimate point was uniting these two groups against their common enemy. But they had to attain civil rights and equality before that could be done. We can't defeat the bourgeois until the ideological gap between the Jewish Supremacists and the Goyim is eliminated. We must see eachother as equals on this earth, otherwise solidarity cannot be achieved.
>>2716295>That would require Iran to be as corrupt as the United States where you can just appeal to their financial interest to abandon the PalestiniansThis was very much the route they seemed to be going down when they signed the deal with Obama. Porkies gonna pork, no matter how holy they are.
>>2716283I mean it seems like classic fascism, no? They idolize violence and they can’t conceive of an existence outside of perpetual war at this point
>>2716297The Obama deal didn't involve disarming Hamas at all tho. Iran had no interest in pursuing nuclear weapons in the first place.
>>2716298Israel's founding was literally based on terroristic ultra-Zionist violence and massacres. They idolize those people. It was always a fascist state.
>>2716288>Stieglitz, who is a German Jew intimately connected with all his co-religionists in the loan-mongering trade, has done the rest. Hope commanding the respect of the most eminent merchants of the age, and Stieglitz being one of the free-masonry of Jews, which has existed in all ages—these two powers combined to influence at once the highest merchants and the lowest jobbing circles, have been turned by Russia to most profitable account
>But the Hopes lend only the prestige of their name; the real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loanmongering mysteries by concentrating their energies upon the barter-trade in securities, and the changing of money and negotiating of bills in a great measure arising therefrom. Take Amsterdam, for instance, a city harbouring many of the worst descendants of the Jews whom Ferdinand and Isabella drove out of Spain, and who, after lingering a while in Portugal, were driven thence also, and eventually found a safe place of retreat in Holland. In Amsterdam alone they number not less than 35,000, many of whom are engaged in this gambling and jobbing of securities. These men have their agents at Rotterdam, the Hague, Leyden, Haarlem, Nymegen, Delft, Groningen, Antwerp, Ghent, Brussels, and various other places in the Netherlands and surrounding German and French territories. Their business is to watch the moneys available for investment and keenly observe where they lie. Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. The smartest highwayman in the Abruzzi is not better posted up about the locale of the hard cash in a traveller's valise or pocket than those Jews about any loose capital in the hands of a trader.
<The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish money-changers out of the temple, and that the money-changers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization.
<But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization. <But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization. <But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization. WDHMBT?
>attributing war to personalities
>>2716303All states were founded on violence
>>2716306sometimes people really are just stupid. it's not always some 5d chess
>>2716307yeah but the Israelis explicitly engaged in ethnic cleansing of the local Palestinians. it's not like they were fighting an occupying force or something. they went house to house massacring women and children and bombing mosques to drive muslims out of palestine.
>>2716298There's definitely a large element of that insofar as the settlers form a similar class basis to those which gave us Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW, and which in Israel give us the current government. I think the Likud political coalition is basically an alliance between cynical grifters at the top and bloodthirsty fanatics at the bottom. I suppose back in 2015 the Israeli haute bourgeoisie were willing to accept his reckless foreign policy in exchange for all the benefits of his domestic policy. Since October 7th its a moot point however, since the ruling class of course wants a strongman who will prosecute the current war as vigorously as possible.
>>2716304>isnt it curious? Isnt it weird?Poltard will poltard
>>2716315That's Marx PBUH who said those things. Are you calling him a poltard?
>>2716316And what he did say?
>>2716318what's the point you're trying to make here?
Telegram rumors that Russia has agreed to Trump's request for a halt on some strike packages in Ukraine until the Middle East situation stabilizes.
>>2716300>The Obama deal didn't involve disarming Hamas at all thoNo, but with sanctions relief would come trade, which would bring economic interdependence. This in turn would both give Iran an incentive and make them more vulnerable to pressure from the West, which would likely lead to their eventual abandonment of the Axis of Resistance. It was a long game, but it has worked before with countries like Egypt.
>>2716319We reject this hadith
>>2716306someone's gonna pay. someone signed orders, someone assumes responsibilities, someone has institutionalized power, someone's under accountability.
the fuck you are talking about?
that when time comes, the gallows won't dress in red blood colors because war are 'fortuitous' and 'cosmic' events?
>>2716321>are you arguing with me?No
>>2716326And? What of it?
>>2716324why are you making excuses for them? america was also founded on terror towards indians, does that make me racist against americans for pointing it out?
>>2716323I think the Israelis didn't like this because trade with Iran would increase Iran's influence towards getting a two state solution and normalizing relations with Palestine, and the Israelis absolutely do not want this.
>>2716331He was right and still is.
>>2716310this ragebait is undercooked. you have received a bad yelp review
>>2716337The part after the word and is the and.
>>2716333They may have been worried about that, but if the conduct of pro-US Arab governments is any indication then their "support" for a Palestinian state would have eventually become merely symbolic and toothless.
>>2716340And? Jews are not a class
>>2716342Iran is a theocracy though, unlike the gulf states which are monarchies or Egypt which is basically a dictatorship of the bourgeois. The Israelis maybe believed the Iranians wouldn't be easy to bribe from past experiences with Mossad infiltration failures.
>geopol thread
>on leftypol
>>2716343death to all religion. abrahamic, vedic, dharmic, whatever form of idealist pederasty and spooky ethnonationalism it may be. yhwh is a pedo god that mandates child rape. the dalai lama is just as much of a pedo as the pope. the hindus caste system is insane class-racism
>>2716334Right about what exactly? All he's saying here is that it's expedient to expose Jewish banking operations because they were involved in capitalist finance on a larger scale than gentiles. It's worth noting that this is no longer the case, and that all the major banks are publicly traded and not "controlled" by Jews in any meaningful way. Even all this Epstein shit was mostly contained to the US.
>>2716321There is no point. There's a reactionary troll who's learned that the best way to troll without getting banned is to drop terse, deliberately indecipherable greentext. It's a pretty clever approach, tbh, that works great against effort-posting serious types. Before he was banned, he was posting stuff like
>muh great man theoryin response to Iranian outrage over the Ayatollah's assassination.
>>2716351Exposing and stigmatizing one organization doesn't stop you from doing the same to others.
>>2716304Fun fact: Under jewish law, a jew is NOT allowed to charge interest or demand collateral on a loan made to another jew.
As a 'gentile', if you need a loan to start a company or buy a house, you'll must go through the usual process: 1. Build a good credit score 2. Offer collateral 3. Pay back with interest
Whereas if you're a 'chosen one', you can access a gemach loan at zero-interest without colateral and no credit check.
Privilege, nepotism, and extreme ethnocentrism is the exact reason why jews are extremely over-represented as CEOs and founders of massive companies and corporations. With the grace of high finance on your side, nothing can stop you within the capitalist game.
Finance is the scam of all scams. Marx, as a system-thinker, was fully honest about this question. But at some point this part of his analysis go the memory hole treatment. Modern "Marxists" keep trying to bury their heads in sand and not face the elephant in the room.
>>2716345I don't think Iran being a theocracy makes much of a difference. It's really a constitutional theocracy, with a large element of bourgeois parliamentary politics and a thoroughly capitalist economy. There's also no reason to think that clerics can't be bourgeois in their thinking anyway. Certainly Europe never faced serious opposition from its clergy when it came to accumulating profits.
>The Israelis maybe believed the Iranians wouldn't be easy to bribe from past experiences with Mossad infiltration failures.I'm sure they believed this, I just think they were mistaken.
>>2716349tbh I don't think that has gone away it's just hidden behind backroom deals and a lot of the CEO's are simply figureheads. the world economy is more interlinked than ever and a few ultra influential people have more power in their phone's contact list than most governments. not hard power but soft power through trading favors and setting up meetings between their "friends" in exchange for bribes. that was Epstein's entire profession basically, the child prostitutes were just there to influence the people Israel wanted him to influence. it was still all about money at the end of the day.
>>2716353>>2716354marxism has always been opposed to all religion, yes.
>muh nepotism
Moralism
‘Substantial next wave’ of US attacks to target Iranian ballistic capabilities: Analyst
Michael Mulroy, former US deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East, said Washington is expected to launch a second wave of attacks that will focus on ballistic missiles arsenals.
“We are probably at the earlier phase of this campaign. We’ve taken out a lot of their air and missiles defence systems, which is what you do first, so you are allowed to get air dominance,” Mulroy told Al Jazeera.
“And apparently we are about to see a very substantial next wave, which I think is going to go after arsenals of the ballistic missiles and everything that the US and Israel want to deplete as much as possible before this comes to an end,” he said.
>>2716368im scared. iran needs to go hard on those fucking gulf animals and israel before drumpf launches the second wave
>>2716354You understand that preferential treatment for your own ethnicity is actually contrary to the logic of capital right? At least it is in the way you're describing it. Ethnic supremacy makes sense in the context of colonialism, or to prevent the unification of different groups in class solidarity. However Jewish bankers giving preferential treatment to other Jews would be at odds with the imperatives of the capitalist system from a Marxist perspective. It would offer no systemic benefit while depriving banks of profits.
>>2716357Sounds like conspiracy slop to me. For everything we've heard about Epstein it's mostly just been lurid accounts of horrific degenerate behaviour. When it comes to actual control and manipulation of politics and society there hasn't been anything even as extensive as the shit the CIA got up to. Call me when they're inventing entire cultural phenomena and getting them mainstream popularity the way the CIA did with the congress of cultural freedom.
>>2716365And? He is explaining why it is the jews. It is not jews themselves but their capital. Capital is the driver
>>2716370>Sounds like conspiracy slop to me. For everything we've heard about Epstein it's mostly just been lurid accounts of horrific degenerate behaviour. When it comes to actual control and manipulation of politics and society there hasn't been anything even as extensive as the shit the CIA got up to. Call me when they're inventing entire cultural phenomena and getting them mainstream popularity the way the CIA did with the congress of cultural freedom.You're behind the meta anon, the Epstein files exposed the "conspiracy" stuff to be true. There's files where Epstein openly talks of setting up meetings with world leaders as a middleman for example. Of course the more lurid stuff is going to remain classified, but you can read between the lines if you aren't living under a rock.
>>2716376Do you think any Jew can walk into a major bank in the US and get an interest free loan?
>>2716378What is this supposed to prove exactly? One Jewish porky represented some other Jewish porkies in business dealings. And this proves they control the global banking system how?
>>2716381Dont argue with that poltard
>>2716385Why did Wexner give all that money to Epstein? Wexner said it was because of furniture or silverware or something.
>>2716371Kangaroo court and hang every central banker. Overthrow the traitorous governments and establish people's republics that serve the interests of each nation and its people, not some organized exploitative minority. Nationalize EVERY central bank and establish financial systems that prioritize the economic development of the country and the social well-being of its people.
>>2716390
That's just mutual aid in a community, and it's something you can find in various forms across numerous religious and ethnic categories. It doesn't in any way prove that Jews continue to dominate the heights of the world financial institutions. Piddly little personal loans you get through a synagogue don't matter to capitalism. Bank of America and Chase Manhattan do.
>>2716384yeah, you sure can explain what morality is.
In all Marx's texts you will find moral judgements, implicit and explicitly stated.
>>2716377I have my class morality. I a working class emmber, and that's the
morality of the future.
now, go back to /pol/
>>2716383i can believe it. not like china is doing shit to help either
>>2716393N-not true! Jews are special!! Super super special, I tell you, jewness is a big thing that only jews can understand!!!
>>2716396Did you also believe Westoid press' yesterday's claims that Iranians are begging for a ceasefire, too?
>>2716393I guess so. I'm not the anon that made the original assertion about interest-free loans but it is a thing I've heard about. As for why Jews have so much greater influence with their "mutual aid", it's as Marx said: because they already control so much capital they have more to throw around towards influencing fellow Jews towards becoming Zionists. I doubt anti-Zionists are receiving access to free shit from Jewish billionaires. So again it is likely just all about Zionism and Jewish Supremacy and not some universal Jewish conspiracy.
>>2716397Honestly even if all these statements about Jewish control of finance were true, it would make very little difference from a communist perspective. Marx's whole point in On the Jewish Question was that capitalism compels the bourgeoisie as a whole to behave in ways typically associated with Jewish finance. Does anybody unironically think that massive banks, oil companies, arms companies, and all the rest of these despicable vampires would behave any differently if it weren't for supposed Jewish control?
>>2716385Epstein was deeply connected to every powerful politician, billionaire, and academic elite you could possibly think of. You can literally think of any random politician or business tycoon and there's a 50-50 chance you can find them in the files connected to J.E. in some way or another. And that's just from looking at the unredacted names contained in the
released files. This is not a coincidence, that dude was a central node in a transnational network of extremely powerful and organized people.
>>2716370>You understand that preferential treatment for your own ethnicity is actually contrary to the logic of capital right?I swear people on this board are fucking retarded, you especially are amongst the most retarded people here, consistently wrong and smug about being stupid. Jews aren't even exclusive to "ethnic preferential treatment", how do you think white-only neighborhoods even work.
>>2716396they are providing satellite imagery
and according to ultras,
Chynah is their largest trading partner, it's an argument worth of using.
>>2716401>As for why Jews have so much greater influence with their "mutual aid"That's what I'm getting at, I don't think they have much more influence than anybody else in the grand scheme of things. You'll notice that the fanatical commitment to Israel is pretty much unique to America, whereas if it was evidence of broader international economic control we'd expect to see it elsewhere. America's relationship with Israel is an unholy concoction of tireless lobbying, imperialist self interest, and Christian Zionist fanaticism. Of those three factors, Jews are really only responsible for the first, although I will concede that its success is the result of their relatively high level of education, prosperity, and ethnic solidarity.
>Currently the Zionists and the Nazis are united in their crusade against Islam
No, there are multiple wealthy and powerful Islamic countries that are fully allied to the US and that have been lobbying for this war for years, and that are actively assisting the US in this war right now.
>>2716418Not only that, scoring an obsessive commitment from America immediately gets you all America's vassal states.
>>2716408White only neighbourhoods made sense in the context of Black people being an internal colony. The point of white supremacy is to justify the super-exploitation of black workers, pacify white workers, and prevent the two from ever uniting. The benefit to the ruling class is obvious. How does giving free loans to Jews, or preferential treatment of Jews in general, provide a systemic benefit like that?
>>2716406>Epstein was deeply connected to every powerful politician, billionaire, and academic elite you could possibly think of.Weren't most of these people Americans though? The capitalist world is bigger than that. Besides, just because he had these connections doesn't mean he was leveraging them in the way being described, i.e. in service of some ethno supremacist conspiracy standing over and above the ruling class in general. The picture painted by the files is just one of porkies getting together to do degenerate shit because they knew nobody would stop them.
>>2716420 (me)
Meant to reply to
>>2716410 >>2716405The world as we know would be entirely different. There wouldn't have been 9/11, the global war on terror, the invasions of countless nations, the rape and destruction of Syria and Lybia and Lebanon, etc… West Asia and North Africa would have been stable, peaceful. There wouldn't be monarchies and dictatorships ruling everything from Morocco to Saudi Arabia. The ongoing genocide of Palestine wouldn't be happening. Going back further, many of the wars in Europe itself wouldn't have happened if jewish bankers weren't available to provide funding (jewish funding for national states goes all the way back to the times of Chalemagne in the 8th century). An unimaginable amount of things would be different without judaism in the picture, it is hard to fathom what the world would even look like.
>>2716420yeah like the saudis, except america has effectively abandoned them and left them to their own devices while they give priority to israel air defense, very smart people and definitely not a corollary to anything anyone has been saying here.
>>2716418The European response to the current war is entirely predictable and in line with basic imperialist goals of subjugating Iran. Meanwhile in America you have politicians responding to questions about flood relief by saying we need to send more money to Israrl. The European relationship to Israel is pragmatic and cynical, the American one borders on self-destruction.
>>2716420That's a bit of a separate issue. Israel's goal is the total destruction of Islam. Saudi Arabia's goal is the total destruction of Shia Islam. America's goal is the total occupation of the Middle East. The Israelis and Saudis are unified on their desire to destroy Iran, but after this they will turn on eachother, and the Israelis will win because the Saudis are genuinely fucking retarded nepobabies that can't even beat the Houthis.
>>2716426You can't actually be so dense as to believe this can you?
>>2716423>The point of white supremacy is to justify the super-exploitation of black workers>How does giving free loans to Jews<how does guaranteeing a systemic underclass even help with wealth accumulationyou're taking capitalism pretense of universalism at face value, i guess the answer to systemic racism is liberal capitalism because its logic is actually entirely meritocratic all along!!!
>>2716427This is a weak argument. The US and Saudi have been collaborating on defence since forever, Saudi incompetence is not US fault. And Irans counterattack is way too weak for any of this to matter. You just have to make up narratives to ignore all the Islamic countries that are fully on board with this war. There are probably more American protestors against this war rather than people in Saudi protesting it.
>>2716429>The European relationship to Israel is pragmatic and cynical, the American one borders on self-destruction.The European Refugee crisis was literally caused by Israel and America destroying Syria and Iraq. And the Europeans just continued licking the Zioburger balls while being flooded with people trying to escape war.
European loyalty to Israel is just as unflinching as America. They just have way less political influence to serve their masters.
Chuds are their own worst enemy. They make it almost impossible for people to have a serious discussion about America's uncanny subservience to Israel when people see all that talk about Baal, Moloch, New York tunnels, EVERYJEWTHINKSTHESAME, and think "Oh hell nah with that shit."
>>2716433>how does guaranteeing a systemic underclass even help with wealth accumulationNon-Jews aren't a systemic underclass.
>>2716434>This is a weak argument.yeah focusing air defense almost entirely on israel despite offering nothing and leaving one of the biggest petrostates to dry for completely ideological reasons is a weak argument, nice response.
>>2716437The Baal/Moloch thing is a pretty common Anti-Zionist trope not exclusive to chuds retard.
Pic/Video are Iran a week before the attack.
>>2716435>And the Europeans just continued licking the Zioburger balls while being flooded with people trying to escape war.Yeah because they obviously benefitted from enslaving Syria and Iraq. They care about profits, not refugees.
>European loyalty to Israel is just as unflinching as AmericaIf that were true they would have joined the attack.
>>2716438>Non-Jews aren't a systemic underclass.This is an answer to your pathetic justification about how ethnic preference is somehow contrary to capital. Now that we recognize that capital not only allows for ethnic underclasses but actively encourages it, can we dismiss you as stupid already?
>>2716414>That's what I'm getting at, I don't think they have much more influence than anybody else in the grand scheme of things. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-07-11-me-131-story.html
>In comments sure to trigger controversy in the entertainment industry, members of a panel at the NAACP convention in Los Angeles complained Tuesday that the influence of Jewish executives over film and music distribution has held back black entertainers and producers.
>LeGrand Clegg, chairman of the national Coalition Against Black Exploitation and city attorney of Compton, urged black leaders to “call a summit meeting with the Hollywood Jewish community in the same spirit that Jews have called for summits” on controversial statements of such prominent black figures as South African leader Nelson Mandela and the Rev. Louis Farrakhan.
>“If Jewish leaders can complain of black anti-Semitism, our leaders should certainly raise the issue of the century-old problem of Jewish racism in Hollywood,” Clegg said.
>Marla Gibbs, a producer and star of the NBC sitcom “227” said African-Americans should concentrate on the quality of the product. “Criminal behavior is being imitated by our children because it is being glorified on the screen,” she said. It is time blacks admit that “the Jewish system in Hollywood was not set up for us,” she said.It's just common knowledge the Jews run Hollywood and the Record Industry. Yeah less and less and probably less people care about Hollywood in general now but we've been raised on so much Jewish programming. If anything, I think that's the main reason people obsessed with Jews is Jews obsessively have to make all mass media about them.
<Americans significantly overestimate the number of Jews living in the country, according to a survey released Tuesday. Respondents guessed on average that 30% of the U.S. population is Jewish — a sum 15 times the actual proportion. 2.4%
<Past surveys have revealed that people overestimate the number of Jews living in their country and around the world. An Anti-Defamation League survey in 2015 found that 18% of people worldwide believed Jews made up at least 10% of the global population — the true figure is about 0.2% — but 16% correctly stated that Jews made up less than 1% of world’s population and another 14% believed they represented a modest 1-2%. Americans really think 1 in 3 of their neighbors is Jewish kek. Or maybe there is just 100 million of them all hiding somewhere.
>Jews must be 1 in 3 of the people in this country, otherwise why would be 1 out of 3 of the people I hear about be Jews? >>2716441They joined the attack - Greece immediately sent fighter jets to Cyprus. Thing is though, Ukraine has drained their reserves so heavily they can't really spare anything
>>2716441>If that were true they would have joined the attack.With what army? They're literally backtracking right now and begging the Iranians to stop bombing their bases.
>>2716440Anyone who talks about Baal and Moloch is by definition a chud. Get back to /pol/.
>>2716447Nah I'll continue doing whatever pisses off Zionists and you can continue seething about it.
May Allah smite the Zionist pedo army of Baal that is currently attempting to conquer Iran.
>>2716448Just because I support Iran's fight against imperialism doesn't automatically mean uncritical support for reactionary trash like religion, chud.
how hard is it to recognize that the US feels total kinship to israel's jewish supremacist project because it's in line with their own vision of white supremacy? they want a fellow ethnostate to succeed
>>2716442Capitalism allows for an ethnic underclass under specific circumstances, to accomplish goals like those I described. It makes sense in situations where one group has a complete monopoly on political or economic power like, like in Apartheid South Africa. Or else it makes sense when you're trying to keep the working class divided like in America. It doesn't make sense when people outside of the favoured group are the ones who actually dominate the economic and political institutions, and where the group in question is so small that their division from or unity with the working class doesn't matter. It's plain to see how even a Black capitalist can benefit from giving whites preferential treatment if it keeps his white and black workers from uniting. So tell me, what do non-Jewish porkies (i.e. the vast majority of them) get out of giving Jews preferential treatment?
Anti semitism is zionism. Anti semites are jewish capitalists' strongest soldiers.
>>2716423>How does giving free loans to Jews, or preferential treatment of Jews in general, provide a systemic benefit like that?Make sense to whom? It makes sense to Jewish members of the cult/club/mafia whatever you want to call it because they can collectively benefit. Also as you know, this cult is very fear and ego driven. They love to point out how successful they are and also they I think are extra motivated to get into politics and trying to control it because they really feel if they don't the next shoah is going to come at any moment. That's why they want Israel, that's why they want to control American politics to be all about protecting "The Jewish Homeland."
>>2716455
Imagine being a US spook and having to shake your head about what US adversaries can learn just by inverting everything Trump says on Truth Social.
I like how Muslim leftists constantly trying to downplay the gigantic role that Muslim countries play to perpetuate Western imperialism. Yeah let's ignore that Turkey is part of NATO. Let's ignore the petrodollar facilitated by the Gulf states. Let's ignore all the lobbying by Gulf countries to put pressure on Iran. Let's ignore that Pakistan acts as a US mercenary, and is now attacking Afghanistan.
Nope, none of this matters. Only the US-Israel axis matters and those Islamic countries are totally not benefiting from US imperialism and actively working towards maintaining it.
>>2716459<low effor memeanother banger post, epic redditor
>>2716451You seem to think I actually believe in Baal and Moloch. I don't. I use them to piss off Zionists. Like you. Refusing to acknowledge their god and comparing them to deities of evil pisses off zionist fags like no other.
>>2716450does anyone have that tweet from a previous thread pointing out all these videos of Iranian's "celebrating freedom" are women dressed like prostitutes?
>>2716457>It makes sense to Jewish members of the cult/club/mafia whatever you want to call it because they can collectively benefitA Jewish capitalist would benefit a lot more from extracting as much wealth as possible out of anybody he can. That would attract more investment to his business, result in higher profits, allow him to muscle out the competition, etc. This is why capitalism doesn't allow for such petty sentimentality. It systematically selects for ruthless profit seeking regardless of ethnic or any other affiliation. It only shows that kind of favouritism when the benefit to the system outstrips any short term losses, i.e. its worth it to treat a white worker better than a black worker because the antagonism this creates prevents them from overthrowing the system together. How does the capitalist
system benefit from preferential treatment of Jews?
>>2716461No, it doesn't make sense to treat one source of capital better than another for arbitrary reasons that wouldn't even matter to most members of the ruling class.
>>2716466>To have access to the Zionetworks?This presupposes Jewish control over and above the rest of the ruling class, but there is no such thing.
>>2716465>A Jewish capitalist would benefit a lot more from extracting as much wealth as possible out of anybody he can. you're once again taking capital's false pretense at face value, you assume it to be both, optimal and universal, you might as well declare yourself a liberal now and spare us the discussion.
>>2716460>I like how Muslim leftists constantly trying to downplay the gigantic role that Muslim countries play to perpetuate Western imperialism. tbh I'm an Atheist raised culturally Muslim and I hate the Saudis as much as I hate the Israelis if not more. The world would benefit massively from a mass revolution in the middle east against every single US-aligned regime. If you talk to Muslims they will pretty much all agree with you. No one I know supports Saudi Arabia even though my entire family and extended family are Sunnis. among Lebanese, Hezbollah is significantly more popular than the actual government, especially among religious people. in Iraq, the US is less popular now than it was before the war. Muslims aren't an ideological monolith, they don't have anything like Zionism spreading Muslim Nationalism or whatever. Most of them just hate the people that rule over them.
>>2716464>You seem to think I actually believe in Baal and Moloch. I don't.Nobody fucking cares about your 'ironic' theology. It causes more damage than it's worth. It's as cringey and off-putting as the dweebs who call themselves non-traditional Satanists because they don't actually believe in Satan.
>>2716469Maximization of profits isn't a pretense, its the entire purpose of all capitalist economic activity. This is the central pillar of the Marxist analysis of it.
>>2716472Being against religion means being anti-religion, not respecting religion to avoid getting called "cringe".
Marx would laugh at you.
Also, to be clear, Jews are not worshippers of Baal. Zionists wish to be considered the "mainline" of Judaism but refusing to acknowledge them as Jewish and insinuating that they worship evil and conflict instead pisses them off. If you can't even insult your enemies to their face, how can you be expected to shoot them? You impotent dweeb.
>>2716475That actually assumes Capitalists are rational actors, but they aren't. Musk was happy to burn $40 billion buying Twitter to win the election for Trump just so he could save a few hundred million in taxes and SpaceX subsidies.
>>2716482The actions of individual capitalists =/= the behaviour of capitalism as a system. As a rule, firms that don't maximize profits are out-competed and swallowed up by those that do.
>>2716483>As a rule, firms that don't maximize profits are out-competed and swallowed up by those that do.What happens when those firms that suck at profits just get a government bailout instead?
>>2716477>Also, to be clear, Jews are not worshippers of Baal. They're just worshippers of Moloch, right? Christcuck chuddies spiraling and tripping over their posts as they feverishly fail to do damage control.
>>2716390>That's not how it works. You go to your Synagogue and talk to the Rabbi and explain you need to buy a house. The Rabbi connects you with a fellow wealthy member of the Jewish community who can give you a private loan. Instead of paying interest you donate to the Synagogue as thanks to Moloch >poltard derailed iran thread and made it about DA JOOOZ
>>2716485Actually you're right I realize that joke was mean-spirited so I deleted the post.
But also fuck religion.
>>2716484>What happens when those firms that suck at profits just get a government bailout instead?They would never get to that point without being more profitable than their competitors to begin with.
>>2716491OpenAI has never had a profit in its entire history and is almost entirely funded by VC promises and government contracts for products that will never be delivered.
>>2716493That's called a speculative bubble comrade, and they have a nasty habit of popping.
Something something fictive fictitious capital
>>2716494Well I'm just saying, this isn't rational behavior and global capital is going all-in on trying to "prevent the bubble from popping" even though it's inevitable.
>>2716431i don't think saudi arabia is inherently opposed to israel
>>2716489I don't care about your ironic demon naming all that much ultimately. I thought it was obvious I was talking about the chud manchildren who go around talking about demons in earnest.
>>2716498It may be foolish but it's still clear profit seeking behaviour. They're pumping money into this because they think it will eventually net a financial gain. That's pretty different from ethnic favouritism at the conscious expense of profit.
>>2716501Its is a habit. It is not a conscious choice
>>2716501I suppose I'm conflating "rational" actors with "intelligent" actors because in this instance when you're watching OpenAI fail the correct bet would be to invest in their competitors that actually have a deliverable product, including in China. But instead the Americans continue pumping endless resources into the speculative bubble hoping it can be recovered. I guess that's what you call "sunk cost" but I have a deep distrust of the intelligence of finance bros/investors. They're basically just gamblers, millions of them fail and a few of them get lucky enough to gobble up all the competition instead of smart investment strategy. If there was a singular investment strategy that resulted in high rate of profits, everyone would be using it. But ultimately it's just a bunch of rich gullible retards playing a game while college kids promise them the world.
>>2716510Here's another easy opportunity for Cuckler to provide material support by arming the Alawite insurgency
>>2716432>You can't actually be so dense as to believe this can you?No, man, everything we know about history is wrong and actually the lesson is that people have no agency because it was the Jews responsible for everything that has happened this entire time, and if it wasn't because of them, things would be totally different, so much that it's impossible to imagine it so therefore we must all suffer and are prohibited by God from influencing anything.
>>2716440>The Baal/Moloch thing is a pretty common Anti-Zionist trope not exclusive to chuds retard.Monotheists be tripping and shit. Baal wasn't such a bad God, he represented storms and fertility. He was like the Canaanite Zeus.
>>2716448>Nah I'll continue doing whatever pisses off Zionists and you can continue seething about it. >May Allah smite the Zionist pedo army of Baal that is currently attempting to conquer Iran.Baal is an enemy of Yahweh and the Jews you kook. Have you even read the Bible. Jezebel also worshipped him and got thrown out of a window and fed to dogs by a Jewish king for doing it.
Indiscriminatory strikes on civilian targets have killed 5 Chinese nationals already. Why is China not starting UN votes condemning USA's aggression? This is retarded
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