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<This thread is brought to you by the Knights of ColumbusWe're getting boots on the ground aren't we?
Loud explosion reported off Oman, UK maritime agency says
The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations said it recieved a report of a loud explosion in close proximity of a vessel followed by smoke in water, around 137 nautical miles of Muscat, Oman.
The vessel and crew are safe, the maritime security agency said.
What's for the US to fuck up next?
Taiwan?
Israel: Kurds should throw away their lives for Israel
The Left: Kurds should not throw away their lives for Israel
Kurds: WTF the left hates us? :(
>>2718332>And is that who you're arguing with? Sounds like they did a number on you!You read and understood my post. I'm pointing out how you guys always talk out of both sides of your mouths. You openly state how the aim is Greater Kurdistan and then at the same time you'll try to be like "noooo you're racist for suggesting the thing we're saying we want to do is what we want to do!"
>>2718348noice? neatos?
>>2718349Who are you quoting?
>>2718341A lot of administration and congresspeople seem to think it's quite possible
>>2718345>What's for the US to fuck up next?CUBA
>>2718351Israel, the left, and the Kurds.
ok but how can I make some money off this
>>2718358Place all your savings on total Islamic Republic victory.
>>2718341somebody's boots prolly proxies
>>2718345That's what I was thinking. Proxies in Iran, doughboys to China via Japan/SK. NK gets ayatollah'd.
>>2718353already are, it's just quiet
>>2718341anything to distract from the epstein files
Trump ate babies and Epstein said they taste like cream cheese. /pol/tards straight up worship Moloch in the flesh lole.
>>2718358trump's minions made $1.2mil on polymarket bets justbefore the strikes happened. you need insider knowledge to make money off these things
>taiwan 2027 warhttps://m.163.com/dy/article/KMA7LRP9055080L4.html?spss=adap_pcTaiwan was flipping towards the KMT-TPP months before the B2 strike. The situation has gotten so bad for the DPP that fulan gong cultists spent chinese new year chimping out at random TPP politicians and nuetral swing voters. And this was all before the special military operation.
China can thank JDPON Donald Trump for the inetivable peaceful reunification.
>>2718379Spirit of anchorage status?
Damn Kurd Derangement Syndrome is real. I apologize for doubting.
Off all the things i thought i'd see a crashout about ITT, it wasn't this.
>>2718398
Don't care, didn't ask. Fuck off to /meta/.
fizzle chads, is this another w for us? im tired of winning…
Here’s what happened today
Here’s a quick recap of the main developments today:
>• Trump says he ordered US forces to join Israel’s attack on Iran because he believed Tehran was about to strike first – a rationale that contradicts the account offered by his state secretary, Rubio, on how the war began.
<• Iran continues attacks on Israel and US targets in the Middle East for a fourth night, with strikes reported on Washington’s embassy in Dubai and a port in the city of Fujairah in the United Arab Emirates.
>• The US and Israel keep up attacks on Iran, hitting the building of the Assembly of Experts in the city of Qom, as the death toll in the country since Saturday rises to at least 787.
<• In Lebanon, Israel has bombed Beirut and Sidon and authorised troops to take additional positions in the southern parts of the country.
>• Trump says the US is prepared to deploy the Navy to escort tankers through the Strait of Hormuz after the IRGC declared the vital waterway closed – a disruption already rippling through the region, with Iraq slowing or halting oil production at the Rumaila field and the West Qurna 2 project.
<• Qatari authorities say they have busted two sleeper cells operating for the IRGC and arrested at least 10 suspects.
Dead thread. Fizzlebros won again
fizzle son or sizzle daughter
>>2718412fizzle son
i don't wanna raise a something-happenedcel
>>2718366>>2718370>>2718398>>2718413>>2718404>>2718364>>2718361>>2718357Go and make a thread to cry about it then, this is the Iran thread you megautistic.
Apparently now it's totally fine for white western imperial core so-called "leftists" who never left their parent's basment to be racist towards Kurds, even when they've actively fought and died for revolutionary socialism for decades…
Because uhhm now they aren't based anymore because the hitlerian Shia theocrats say so, and also because the Americans/Zionist entity want to balkanise, vapourize and annihilate Iranian people and therefore want to "support" (read: prostitute) desperate Kurds for the 1000th time as a part of this strategy… so in short it's is apparently the Iranian Kurds own fault that Trump now wants to poke and prod them into an uprising?
Make it make sense…
‘Third wave’ of US attacks still to come and expected to be ‘biggest yet’
[Trump] has said in the past 24 hours – and this has also been said by Marco Rubio – that there have been a number of waves of attacks by the Americans, but the third wave will be the biggest yet. And that has still to come.
That would fit in with what we have heard from Dan Caine, who is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on Monday, when he said they were still moving more military hardware into the region.
That also suggests that the Americans went before they were fully ready. The fact is, they are still moving hardware – ships, planes, soldiers – into the region to carry out more operations.
CENTCOM says Iran’s ability to strike back is ‘declining’
The US military says that Iran has launched over 500 ballistic missiles and more than 2,000 drones in retaliation for the US and Israeli strikes, but that Iran is facing a “lingering launch capability” due to ongoing attacks on missiles and launchers.
“We are seeing Iran’s ability to hit us, and our partners, is declining, while our combat power, on the other hand, is building. And my overall operational assessment is that we are ahead of our game plan,” said Cooper.
>>2718341Considering the rotting corpse wouldn't listen to the joint chiefs and instead plotted with bibi, kegsbreath and narco lubio, and considering the CIA flunkies were already there I'd say boots are already on the ground with many more to follow. If the cic has Alzheimer's, which appears to be the case, and the conspirators in charge are bloodthirsty then the death toll will dwarf every deployment since WWII combined. Iran has home advantage, the geography and dense populations are a logistical nightmare. If they plan to "finish the job" they started the highest casualties will come to mercenary groups first but it will spillover as it drags on and Americans will continue to die for Israel.
>>2718422>le gurds mentioned means i can do my autistic spergout here!!!You have to seek help for your severe personality disorder.
>>2718422Didn't the Iranian Kurds release a statement to keep their heads down?
Fucking tired of you CIA stooges. Never seen a CIA Op you won't support yet. Don't know jackshit about anything, and if anyone tries to educate you or anyone else reading:
>NOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT RELEVANT INFORMATION! SHUT IT DOWN
>>2718427Kurdish QT3.14 GF status?
>>2718409>>• Trump says the US is prepared to deploy the Navy to escort tankers through the Strait of Hormuz after the IRGC declared the vital waterway closed – a disruption already rippling through the region, with Iraq slowing or halting oil production at the Rumaila field and the West Qurna 2 project.An absolutely retarded move that will make the Millennium Challenge a reality.
>>2718429>>2718431cool bro. enjoy your autistic meltdown i guess. At least you get to enjoy yourself. 👍
>>2718429Relevant information often clouds the otherwise black and white mechanical materialist / dualist worldview many people hold.
They'd rather scream and cry than accept the reality that the situation holds layers of complexity and contradictions and is interconnected with other issues.
>>2718424he wants so bad to drop a nuke
>>2718434
The rotting corpse wants to use the Kurds as pawns. They've been wanting to exterminate them entirely and this is part of the plan.
>>2718431>QT3.14 GFDo you honestly think anyone else knows what you're saying when you keep coming out with this schizobabble? All sounds like incel-speak to me, anon.
I honestly don’t know what can compel Kurds to even fight after just witnessing America stab them in the back in Syria
Kucks
>>2718450They died for Israel… Do you think in their final moments they thought it was all worth it?
>>2718453soyjakfication when?
>>2718445>I honestly don’t know what can compel Kurds to even fight after just witnessing America stab them in the back in SyriaMustafa Hijri is 81, he doesn't have to think that far ahead.
4 little piggas died for Epstein, SAD!
>>27184576 dead US soldiers so far, but they haven't revealed the identities for 2 of them yet.
>>2718445>Also on Tuesday, President Donald Trump spoke with the president of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan (KDPI), Mustafa Hijri, according to a senior Iranian Kurdish official. KDPI was one of the groups targeted by the IRGC.
>Iranian Kurdish opposition forces are expected to take part in a ground operation in Western Iran, in the coming days, the senior Iranian Kurdish official told CNN.Okay, so US is bombing government infrastructure in Iranian Kurdish regions. CIA wants to arm Kurds to rebel, because Iranian opposition didn't pan out. KDPI is actually in Iraq, not Iran. Are the actual Kurds in actual Iran doing anything with this?
>>2718455Again, the rotting corpse refused to listen to the joint chiefs. Their Supreme Leader is that of the religion, similar to the Catholic Pope. Meaning there will always be one.
Is Ghisrael still invading Lebanon while fighting Iran?
>>2718462Right, but that doesn't stop them from just bombing repeatedly. The Pope is just a guy, he's not a wizard.
>>2718477
Yeah, wouldn't it be funny if Iranian Kurds just said "No, thanks" after Syria and Iraq?
>>2718479Many popes were martyred and even exiled, but there will always be a pope just as there will always be a supreme leader for the Shia. That was my point.
If the Kurds don't do what America wants then America will move onto the Balochis, Turkmen, Azeris, etc.
>>2718421I've been a pretty consistent defender of the SDF and PKK but I have no problem admitting that Kurds have far too often served imperialist interests. If they try anything in Iran I would 100% support the Islamic Republic putting them down with extreme prejudice.
>>2718424>“We are seeing Iran’s ability to hit us, and our partners, is declining, while our combat power, on the other hand, is building. And my overall operational assessment is that we are ahead of our game plan,” said Cooper.its all ogre…
>>2718453zogbots died, life is good
>>2718486
Hahaha. Good luck with that.
Whats this senate shit about? TLDR it to me burgernons?
>>2718486
>this early
That's not good lol.
>>2718485>If they try anything in Iran I would 100% support the Islamic Republic putting them down with extreme prejudice.based and Allahpilled
>>2718485Kurds really need to put down the Monkey Paw.
>>2718477
sorry liddle gurds :DD
UKMTO says vessel struck off UAE
The British maritime security tracker has reported an incident off the UAE saying a vessel struck by an unknown projectile.
“UKMTO has received a report of an incident 7NM east of Fujairah, United Arab Emirates. The Master reported the vessel being struck by an unknown projectile causing damage to the steel plating,” UKMTO said in a warning.
“There has been no fire or water intake. All crew reported safe. Authorities are investigating.”
This comes shortly after the UKMTO reported another incident off the coast of Oman.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260227-kurdish-iranian-groups-in-iraq-eye-opportunity-for-change-at-homeKurdish Iranian groups in Iraq eye opportunity for change at home
>Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan region has long been a haven for Kurdish Iranian armed factions, which have repeatedly faced cross-border strikes from Iran.
>"We cannot take the side of either the Americans or the Iranians. Our cause is different… our goal is democratic change in Iran – a democracy that will benefit the Kurdish people," said Mazloum Haftan, a senior commander in the Party of Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK).
>"We will neither attack Iran nor defend the current regime. We have chosen a third path: working towards democratic, peaceful change," the 54-year-old added.That's nice of him.
>An AFP team of journalists met Haftan and his fellow fighters in a bunker carved into a rugged mountainous area, now blanketed with snow, near the border with Iran.
>Iran has designated his group as a terrorist organisation, and many Iranian Kurdish groups like his have previously fought Iranian security forces in Kurdish-majority areas along the border.
>But in recent years, they have largely refrained from armed activity, although they continue to actively campaign from exile against the Islamic republic.
>They recently stepped up their lobbying after mass anti-government protests in Iran that sparked a deadly crackdown, and as the United States conducted a military build-up in the region not seen in decades.
<If war breaks out, Haftan said he believes Iran might target Kurdish opposition positions in northern Iraq. He called it.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-888638Iran targets Kurdistan Region in Iraq, seeks to make it a war zone - analysis<Iran attacks Kurdish groups in Iraq, using militias to strike US forces and neighbors, seeking to turn Iraq into a strategic buffer zone against uprisings in Kurdish areas of Iran.
>He also said Iranian authorities have already started boosting their security and military presence in Kurdish-majority areas of western Iran.
>The impact of any US strikes would very much depend on how far they go. Should they go as far as effecting regime change, Haftan said groups like his would aim for "a decentralised system after having tried the monarchy and the Supreme Leader rule".Based Democratic Confederalist Libertarian Socialism
>Last week, the PJAK and another four exiled groups announced a political coalition to seek the overthrow of Iran's Islamic republic and ultimately to secure Kurdish self-determination.
>Kurdish opposition groups have long supported anti-government protests in Iran. Last month, they called for a general strike in support of the demonstrations.
<In 2022, Iran launched deadly military strikes on exiled Kurdish Iranian militants, accusing them of instigating protests sparked by the death in custody of Kurdish Iranian woman Mahsa Amini.
<In Iran, "the Kurds have been at the forefront of the struggle for democracy and freedom. When one leads people, one must pay a price—we have paid in blood," Haftan said.
>The Kurds, whose community spans areas of Turkey through Syria, Iraq and Iran, make up one of Iran's most important non-Persian ethnic minority groups.
>The Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan (PDKI) is one of the oldest and biggest Kurdish Iranian opposition groups, and it has lost fighters and commanders, including three of its chiefs, to Iranian fire.
>Despite his enmity with the Iranian state, PDKI commander Mohammed Nazif Kader told AFP over the phone his group has not supported Israeli or American attacks on the Islamic republic.based anti-imperialism
>"Our coalition relies on the Iranian people, especially the Kurds," he said.
>But "if a war breaks out, it will likely create an opportunity for the Iranian opposition to return" and "seek to establish a democratic system".But it would be awesome if Israel and America did bomb Iran. Kurds always got to have it both ways.
>"We are on full alert and fully prepared… and for all forms of struggle," he added. >>2718500>mad>implyingHow's it going for them, btw?
Syria sends thousands of troops to Lebanon border, sources saySyrians living in Lebanon at the Syrian-Lebanese border, March 3, 2026. REUTERS/Yamam Al Shaar
Syria's defense ministry says it has reinforced its border with Lebanon.
Eight Syrian and Lebanese sources have told Reuters this includes rocket units and thousands of troops as the Iran conflict spreads in the region, including fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
The sources included five Syrian military officers, a Syrian security official and two Lebanese security officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The Syrian defense ministry said in a statement on Wednesday that the army has reinforced its deployment along the Syrian borders with Lebanon and Iraq as part of efforts to “protect and control the borders amid the escalating regional conflict”.
The Syrian officers, including a senior member of the military, said the move was aimed at preventing arms and drugs smuggling as well blocking Iran-backed Lebanese Hezbollah or other militants from infiltrating Syria.
<…https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/syria-sends-thousands-troops-lebanon-border-sources-say-2026-03-03/ Hezbollah claims targeting of Israeli army gathering
Lebanon's Hezbollah has said that it targeted an army gathering at Metula, northern Israel, with a rocket barrage early on Wednesday.
Kuwaiti health ministry announces death of a child from falling debris
The Kuwaiti Ministry of Health reported the death of a girl who succumbed to injuries sustained when debris fell in a residential area.
Sea vessel struck seven nautical miles east of UAE's Fujairah
A vessel was struck by an "unknown projectile" seven nautical miles east of Fujairah in the UAE, the United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations reported.
The master of the vessel noted damage to the steel plating, with no fire or water intake sustained. Crew onboard is reportedly safe.
US army commander boasts operation in Iran 'double the scale' of Iraq invasion
The US military commander in the Middle East said that American forces struck about 2,000 targets in Iran.
"We have severely degraded Iran's air defenses and destroyed hundreds of Iran's ballistic missiles, launchers and drones," Admiral Brad Cooper of US Central Command said.
"The first 24 hours of this operation were nearly double the scale" of the first day of shock-and-awe strikes on Iraq in 2003, "and we continue with 24/7 strikes into Iran," he added.
France sending aircraft carrier to Mediterranean to secure maritime traffic
French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday said France was sending its aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle, to the Mediterranean and working to build a coalition that would help secure maritime traffic imperilled by the US-Israeli war on Iran.
Macron said that action was needed, given that the Strait of Hormuz is closed and the Suez Canal and Red Sea shipping routes are threatened by the escalating crisis.
"We have economic interests to protect, because oil prices, gas prices and the international trade situation are being profoundly disrupted by this war," Macron said.
He said France had also sent a frigate to Cyprus and had shot down drones in the skies above its Gulf allies, per its defence agreements with them.
US embassy in Beirut closed ‘until further notice’
The US embassy in Beirut has announced that it will be closed “until further notice” due ongoing attacks in the country.
“All other regular and emergency consular appointments have been cancelled. We will communicate when the Embassy returns to normal operations,” it said in a statement.
>>2718505Of course not-ISIS is in on the fun.
You think entire Middle East will end up on fire?
kurd fatigue
>>2718512Calm down, Saddam.
>>2718513
why does trump love this guy so much?
>>2718513
Vooted for it again award
>>2718513
Go back to your containment thread (USApol)
>>2718510Arent all these articles just circular reporting on the same claim/statement?
Turkey's pro-Kurdish party on Sunday criticised the US-Israeli war on Iran, saying it opposed “external designs” on the country.
“It is clear that global and regional powers are, as in other historical examples, seeking to establish a new order in Iran that would no longer pose a threat to themselves, rather than prioritizing democracy and freedoms,” the Peoples' Equality and Democracy (Dem) Party said in a statement.
The party, which has the third-largest number of MPs in parliament, said the ongoing strikes do not serve the expectations of a new, free life for minorities in the country, including Kurds, Balochs, Christians and Azerbaijanis.
An Axios report late on Monday said that US President Donald Trump spoke by phone with Kurdish leaders in Iraq over the weekend to discuss the US-Israeli war on Iran and what might come next.
Israeli and American forces targeted several Iranian military posts in western Iran on Monday near the Iraqi border, where thousands of Kurdish Peshmerga security forces are present.
The report added that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had lobbied Trump for months to make the calls to Iraqi Kurdish leaders Massoud Barzani and Bafel Talabani, arguing that “the Kurds were going to rise up”, according to one official.
“When he first came over and sat with Trump for hours, you would have thought Netanyahu had it all figured out,” the official said.
“He had the successor planned out. He had the Kurds all figured out - two sets of Kurdish groups here and there. This many people are going to rise up,” the official added.
Turkish Dem Party rejects US regime change
However, Turkey's Dem Party, a political group with ties to Kurds in Iran, offered a more nuanced take on the US-Israeli operations.
“We are witnessing examples that demonstrate the ongoing air strikes do not create conditions that would correspond to the expectations of a new, free life for Kurds, Baloch, Christians, Azerbaijanis, and Persian communities in Iran.”
“We have not forgotten and will not forget the killings of Jina Mahsa Amini, Mujahid Kurkur, Dr Qasimlo, Ramin Hossein Panahi, and tens of thousands of other Iranians of different identities by the Mullah regime,” the party said.
“However, we continue to maintain that change in the current regime in Iran should come not through external designs but through the collective will of its peoples.”
On Tuesday, in an address to the parliament, Dem co-chair Tulay Hatimogulları described the US-Israeli attacks on Iran as “wars of imperialism aimed at redesigning the global system on a worldwide scale”, adding that authoritarian regimes in the region were acting as proxies for imperialist powers.
“While the US and Israel were continuing negotiations with Iran at the table, they launched attacks on Iran; there is a possibility that this war could engulf the entire region,” she said.
“It has already spread to Iraq, Lebanon and the Gulf countries. In these attacks, a girls' primary school in Iran was struck," Hatimogulları added, noting that more than 150 schoolgirls were killed.
>>2718521
Do fox consumers actually believe we need endless war for israel or we'll be invaded by one of israel's neighbors?
>>2718434
>>2718434
Back during the Ottoman era, the French and the Russians used ethnic nationalists as mercenaries to Balkanize the empire. This is an old imperial strategy. And midget political players with little influence know they can dramatically increase their local profile if they get a Western power to back them.
>>2718526 i've heard boomers say the damnest things like being scared that if all the military is in the middle east the US might get invaded from the north or south.
>>2718523I just find it interesting variations of the same claim comes up in all these different Israeli outlets, just as we are learning it's been a key line of Netanyahu trying to convince Trump personally
>>2718522. Smells to me they've been doing co-ordinated narrative building to convince the Orange Retards Team, knowing that once he commits it basically no longer matters, he cant un-commit either way.
>>2718479from my experience in medieval 2 tw, you can kill the pope every turn and a new one will always pop up
>>2718529Crazy cos it's impossible for myriad reasons.
>>2718421>died for revolutionary socialism for decades…Ocelan is about as socialist as Gaddafi or Asad or any other power hungry dictator with his own hybrid ideology. The only thing the PKK and its local franchises care about is creating a Kurdish state with Ocelan as their Saddam Hussein. The quickest way for them to do that is to do what other ethno nationalists have done in Eastern Europe and the Middle East: find a great power that will use them as mercs. It’s what the Zionists did.
Defense executives to meet at White House on more weapons
The Trump administration plans to meet with executives from the biggest U.S. defense contractors at the White House on Friday to discuss accelerating weapons production, five sources told Reuters.
Companies including Lockheed Martin and Raytheon parent RTX, along with other key suppliers, have been invited to attend the meeting, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
The meeting underscores the urgency felt in Washington to shore up weapons stocks after the Iran operation drew heavily on munitions.
Since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 and Israel began military operations in Gaza, the U.S. has drawn down billions of dollars' worth of weapons stockpiles, including artillery systems, ammunition and anti-tank missiles.
The conflict in Iran has consumed longer-range missiles than those furnished to Kyiv.
At least one of the people said the gathering was expected to center on pressing weapons makers to move faster to boost output.
Lockheed, the Pentagon and White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. RTX declined to comment.
fdpd
>>2718547Way to add another ten trillion to the debt in two weeks.
>>2718547This will end with the arms manufacturers getting even more lucrative contracts while falling even further behind on production schedules.
>>2718341SOF definitely. A ground invasion with troops? Maybe but the US will avoid at all cost using its own troops in anything beyond SOF role.
>>2718513
At this point he’s gotta be rage baiting WSWS
>>2718523>Matt BroomfieldHe's a comrade, lol.
>CNN: The CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces with the aim of fomenting a popular uprising in Iran. The Trump admin has been in active discussions with Iranian opposition groups and Kurdish leaders in Iraq about providing them with military suppor
Every “paranoid tankie” who called Rojava a sus balkanization op in 2016-2019 has been 100% vindicated For all you “leftists” who championed them and still make excuses: I hope you enjoy the clout you farmed bc you sold your soul to the Empire and it’s about time to pay the bill
>>2718554It's a country of 90+ million people. That shit ain't going to cut it. Neither will simply offering insurance to ships going through the Hormuz Strait.
>>2718560this is just gonna be a bunch of ethnic cleaning but I guess that’s what the CIA wants
>>2718560but what happened to all those people who said the CIA doesn't do things like this or encourage protestors in iran
>>2718511>Of course not-ISIS is in on the fun.I'm just wondering how long until the next ISIS is created and unleashed by Isrmerica. Hit them with the one two punch like in Syria. Hit them with the ISIS, get the excuse of "we are only there to stop the great ISIS," bomb Iranian soldiers when they try to fight ISIS. And of course, the Kurds to have some based feminist socialists to protect. We're only putting the bases their to protect the Gurdish QT3.14s, you don't want them to get turned into sex slaves by ISIS right?
Actually I'm wondering as well, how long until Iran starts gassing the Kurds, because that is a BIG
RED LINE!
The world needs less communists and more Bad Empanadas
>>2718568Oliver north lmao
>>2718568Is Iran going to make tel Aviv look like gaza
>>2718561They’ll get the GCC or the Iraqis or anyone else to use their troops or maybe just occupy the oil fields and ports along the coasts. America will do anything to avoid putting its own troops on the ground in an occupation role. Yanks don’t like it when their soldiers come back in boxes in droves.
>>2718577>GCC>troopsLol. Lmao.
just woke up did anything happen in the last 8 hours?
>>2718586They're still slugging it out. Now there's talk of arming Iranian Kurds to work as a proxy force inside Iran. Trump is also holding a meeting with defense company executives to pressure them to expand missile interceptor production.
>>2718585>Maybe that's what they're already working onInteresting theory. I mean they've had special operators in both countries for several decades now.
>>2718585the taliban also struck a deal with CHYNA for a belt and road ground corridor, ameriKKKa will probably try to mess with that through their pakistani vassals as high priority ops
>>2718586>UAE and Tel aviv getting fucked up>Two $1.8 billion THAADs ate some cheap missiles>Hypersonics being used now>More US bases bombed with more casualties>800 US soldiers dead so far>(((Nikita Bier))) censoring all footage of thisIran is at the vanguard of a world revolution and we are just watching.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2718547>The Peace President running around the WH seething and yelling at everyone to make More Bombs!>>2718560fact-checked: true
>>2718593>>800 US soldiers dead so far
Bro wat
>>2718593>800 US soldiers dead so farsource? I didn't expect iran to be this impressive
>>2718582This is sauceless, the original is much better
>>2718593>(((Nikita Bier)))If you are going to be antisemitic/retarded just call them russian saboteurs, don't censor yourself. EVERYONE here already knows what the parentheses mean, you are not fooling some ban algorithm or something
>>2718587>>2718593thanks bros, good to know Iran is still humiliating the enemies of mankind.
is there a source for the 800 US soldiers stat though? I know officially they're saying it's just a few soldiers?
>>2718574Iran is not that bloodthirsty and cruel. The opposite is more likely unfortunately.
>>2718601>More than 650 US military personnel KILLED or WOUNDED by Iran's retaliatory operation' — IRGCI guess the IRGC. But according to RT, their number is 650.
Apparently Fox is confirming that some glowies got killed.
>>2718603Why call them a russian saboteur? What does that have to do with anything?
>>2718609Translation: Iranian bourgeoisie can't brutalise Israelis like it does with its defenceless workers
Slow night huh?
>>2718611>Why call them a russian saboteurGo back to reddit, vatniktard.
>>2718611>drones are the new suicide bombsI fucking hate these people.
>>2718609It's not about bloodthirst or cruelty at all. It's Jihad. Genghis Khan was not "cruel" either. Call it cosmic justice
USA/Israel has got to be under reporting their military deaths. Taking them at their word you'd think all the missile and drone strikes Iran has done have only killed a dozen or so USA/Israel soldiers.
>>2718621>you'd think all the missile and drone strikes Iran has done have only killed a dozen or so USA/Israel soldiersYou mean the last decade of Iranian retaliatory bombings?
>>2718620I mean that the Iran military hold themselves to some principles, for better or worse, that the USA/Israel does not.
>>2718622I mean the strikes since the Khamenei's murder.
>>2718628The IRGC when their enemy isn't an unarmed prole:
>>2718624IRGC already stated their intentions bluntly, any Israelis who don't want to die must leave Israel and the war will end with Israel's destruction. Can't get any more straightforward
How do libs suggest there is anyway of le destroying a nuclear armed power without getting wiped out yourself (ie why the Iranian bourgeoisie won't do it)?
You'd think the only is for it to collapse from the inside… oh well too bad Israel is a monolithic society with no class contrdiciati or so Netanyahu says :)
>>2718600he's using ukrainian math
>>2718632Did you not hear about the Iranian protests over the past month, and how Iran blacked out the Internet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Internet_blackout_in_Iran >>2718634Iran's goal isn't to destroy Israel/US society, they just want to drag American troops into Iranian soil where they can be encircled and held hostage as a security guarantee.
>>2718637Cia color revolution
>>2718638Didn't stop israel from bombing hostages taken oct 7
I doubt it will stop Trump
>>2718638>Iranian bourgeoisie goal is survival I know. I'm talking about the resistards who think cuckmenini will lead the prayer in qudas in two more weeks.
>>2718637Yeah the one that fizzled out as soon as all the Mossad protest leaders got exposed via Starlink. Better luck next time shlomo
>>2718626>>2718621I'm sure they are, but it makes sense for them to be lower. The level of ordinance that airstrikes can deliver is typically larger than what you see on ballistic missiles. The Americans and Israelis also have a lot more shelter infrastructure than the Iranians. Most importantly the Iranians don't really have any way to repel the Ziomerican airstrikes, whereas the missile interceptors are still able to seriously reduce the effectiveness of the Iranian attacks (at least until they run out). There's no way around the fact that the imperialists enjoy substantial technical superiority so we should expect Iran to get hit harder than Israel. This won't be enough to win of course, but it's pretty much inevitable that more Iranians will die than Americans or Israelis.
Moltipolaristas are legitimately the most brain wormed posters on this site.
Just say you're a retarded accelerationist with no frontal lobe function to understand nuance.
>>2718640
They're the same people who will be quick to call some one a Chigger, Zigger, whatever igger. They'll say that's ok because it wasn't directed at Black people, they're just denigrating an unrelated group of people by comparing them to Black people.
>>2718644>protest leaders>implying there was only one org and front to the mass protests<mfw actual socialist direct action is being called Jewish to discredit it the consequences of the Epstein files has been a disaster for the human race.
>>2718640
trvke
i swear to god some communists on xitter will call you a western cuck for not actting like the a ayatollah was some wholsome chungus reddit communist
>>2718640
Thats because Judaism no longer exists. Over the past 100 years, Judaism has been functionally replaced by zionism. This is as true for the major international Jewish institutions and organizations as it is for nearly all of the smaller local religious centers and communal organizations. So when 95% of jews are bloodthirsty zionists, nobody gives a fuck or should give a fuck about antisemitism anymore, even Left-wing jews are antisemites now. They will be carrying Judaism into the next generation, without Zionism. That's the deal, and the anti-semitism will stop.
>>2718651>Judaism has been functionally replaced by zionismall religions are reactionary anon, judaism is no diffrent
>>2718648>being called Jewish to discredit it >the consequences of the Epstein files has been a disaster for the human race.What did the big KM say about that man named Ferdinand Lasalle back in the 1800s?
>>2718646What problem do you have with accelerationists?
>>2718651I haven't noticed any Jews who identify with the left who are antiseptic but a tiny minority are antizionist.
>>2718655These sociopaths are demonic.
>>2718634>no answerGlad libs admit their ideology is larp fantasy
>>2718656lol alot of you guys need to get over that one letter marx wrote, marx wasnt a heckin based racist, he was against racism (and yes he did criticize jews but not because he felt they were subhuman but because judaism is reactionary)
>>2718658>Contrarianism under a different name>Every flavor of acceleration is just fascism with a frowny face >:(Leftwing acclerationism doesn't care about actual movements or political organization, just rooting for the opposite team of the mainstream. They don't care about people, or how they're living.
If there was a socialist party for election in [INSERT COUNTRY], the accelerationist view would be to oppose the election as it doesn't bring anything closer to revolution. And when there is a revolution, it's automatically a color revolution.
>>2718661Honest question are you jewish?
Epstein isnt the cause of antisemitism is all I implied for fucks sake.
>>2718669
It was rather amusing. Laters.
It seems like Trump misunderestimated Iran's capability
>>2718666Ever since the Epstein files dropped, antisemitic apologetics and racist pandering spiked on leftypol.
Again, all religion bad. I feel like that shouldnt be necessary to explain to on an ML imageboard.
>>2718666people like you only serve to be ammo for libs to go
>"SEE THE COMMUNISTS ARE HECKIN ANTISEPTIC TOOOOO THEY ARE JUST LIKE THE NAZIS OMGGGG"and to anwser your question no im not a jew
>>2718586prepare for the long haul, this thread is going to be general eventually. We got another SMO
>>2718640Idk I think it’s a hard needle to thread. America absolutely needs to be far less philosemtic but I don’t want to give a pass everyone else that was involved in the looting and raping of the world. Nor do I want to give Nazis or… I don’t even want to say legitimate antisemites because yeah I can see why someone would hate Jews in specific circumstances. But more like cranks that exploit these circumstances and use it as a way to create divisions. Like I’ve called Israel the protocol of Zion the state, but I don’t think it’s anything inherent to the Jews. This is just what ethno-nationalist theocracies look like.
I'll be honest lefty /pol/ I don't know which is the biggest troll stance this time between pretending to be le sensible anti-multipolaristard zionist or pretending that the islamic republic is secretly AES
I think I'm sitting this one out for once…
>>2718677switch sides depending who is currently posting
>>2718672The fact that they didn't order evacuations of US citizens from the area before hand and have no plan to get them out shows that they definitely weren't prepared for this.
>>2718679i see people every day compare nazism to communism so, yes they are
>>2718673You're not wrong but I think we need to be less kneejerky when it comes to branding any criticism of Jews as racist. It's not always about race.
>>2718577>Yanks don’t like it when their soldiers come back in boxes in droves.>what is vietnam>what is iraqlol, the government doesn't care
HOW KURDS CAN STILL BE BASED
>accept the CIA weapons
>don't actually join the war
>>2718676> I don’t want to give a pass everyone else that was involved in the looting and raping of the worldYou guys always always always put up this strawman that no one has never, not once ever, said here, but that never stops you from repeating this strawman again, and again, and again.
You never explain about how highlighting the Zionist infiltration of government somehow gives anyone a pass. Not once ever.
>>2718686The govt doesn't care but the people do.
>>2718680The Trump administration doesn't make plans, it has vibes. Trump can be seen to be contemplating the consequences of his actions aloud in real time for the first time on live television in front of everybody and the world.
>>2718687accept the weapons
use them to go kill jolani
>>2718686The US withdrew from those countries in large part because they couldn't sustain the casualties politically.
>>2718685Brother, when you use the (((hybernian))) quotes, I can't help but feel like /pol/ is about to drop 20kbs of jpegs about how the Holocaust didn't happen.
If anything, people here are vehemently opposed to Zionism already and opening the doors for reactionaries to come in a shit post is a recipe for disaster
>>2718695
Noticing is now leftypol culture I guess
The imageboard has fallen
>>2718697>Noticing is now leftypol culture I guess Always was chief, you just never noticed.
>>2718698
Go back
>>2718697prepare for chud migration
>>2718676>Like I’ve called Israel the protocol of Zion the state, but I don’t think it’s anything inherent to the Jews. This is just what ethno-nationalist theocracies look like.You're exactly right but I think none of us have issues talking about say, Turkish ethnonationalism or German ethnonationalism or Japanese ethnonationalism without making it into a conversation of race.
>>2718694I get it but if we're always living with the fear of /pol/ behind every corner then the /pol/tards have already achieved their goal of disrupting Leftypol discourse irreversibly.
Personally in the age of memes I don't consider any particular "polism" to be unforgivable unless it involves wishing total death on a particular race/group. There's obviously a fine line between what is just "memeing" like calling people zogbots and just dropping random slurs while relitigating the Holocaust.
Thinking about it, Leftists have never genocided Jews and yet we're the ones terrified of "recreating the Holocaust" meanwhile the far-right are more than happy to recreate the Holocaust at every opportunity. Why are we so scared of Left-wing antisemitism? It seems like we're overcompensating for the crimes of the right.
>>2718695>>2718694>>2718698Triple parentheses came from the Nazi Right Stuff website which the files confirmed Epstein was a fan of.
>>2718696They are cannon fodder to him.
>>2718698Everyone already knows, the 2000s 4chan parentheses aren't necessary for clarification.
>>2718708I also don't think they're particularly useful for trolling Zionists because they take pride in it. There was a whole twitter fad in the 2010's of Zionists adding the triple parenthesis to their name as a means of signaling their support for Zionism.
>>2718709Damn it I spelled fodder wrong
>>2718698
If it weren't for da juice the US would be wholesome champion of democracy and human rights but for real i love liberalism
Have to keep the debate on the:
>nooo don't say Jew! Say Zionist!
Because as soon as we all stop saying Jew, that's the second the overton window gets moved and the new meta is:
>Anti-Zionist is just a dogwhistle for antisemitism!
Nope.
>>2718713I misspell and typo all the time. No biggie I knew what you meant.
>>2718714this is what 90% of tiktok chuds think
>>2718714>If it weren't for da juice the US would be wholesome champion of democracy and human rights but for real i love liberalismAlready INB4ed you ITT.
>>2718688>You guys always always always put up this strawman that no one has never, not once ever, said here, but that never stops you from repeating this strawman again, and again, and again. >You never explain about how highlighting the Zionist infiltration of government somehow gives anyone a pass. Not once ever. >>2718715they already say that dumbass
>>2718718
>right wing natenyahu goverment
just say zionism bro
>>2718715>>Anti-Zionist is just a dogwhistle for antisemitism! Zionist already do this and conflate the two.
Criticize the state and they brand you antiseptic.
>>2718722If it weren't for (((zionist infiltration))) the US wouldn't have genocided natives and occupied the Philippines and Nicaragua
>>2718723No shit retard. I'm talking about in a limited space. You and the rest of their accomplices are trying to herd us into that paradigm and as soon as we are all safely in that paradigm you and the rest of them will move on to the next meta.
>>2718724
that irani girl is soooo mid, no one would even buy her onlyfans even if she had one
>>2718727See:
>>2718688 >You guys always always always put up this strawman that no one has never, not once ever, said here, but that never stops you from repeating this strawman again, and again, and again. >You never explain about how highlighting the Zionist infiltration of government somehow gives anyone a pass. Not once ever. >>2718725Bernie is a zionist (and Israel has a right to defend themselves!). He just wants their Democrats to rule instead of their Republicans.
>>2718731I'm nooooooooticing!!!! The US acts like every other capitalist power because daaaa juuuuuuiiiiiicceeeee we are a wholesome 100 nation state otherwise
>>2718732>Islamists call their thriving prostitution industry "temporary pleasure marriage" ergo no real exploitationNow we "Islamist" posting.
The mods like the good glowies they are will assist in helping the discussion derail to a discussion of Islam instead of the two aggressor nations attacking the Islamic Republic.
>>2718729i'm anti-zionist dumbass
>>2718736Why are you replying to me instead of the guy saying the country with one of the worst prostitution industries in the region has no prostitution?
>>2718740Just a guess, but you seem like jidf.
>>2718739
>>2718737
Hail the stars and stripes!!! After we get rid of (((the international elements))) we can return to being a god fearing noble nation spreading glory everywhere like the founding fathers intended111
>>2718734
You forgot the parentheses bro. I can't tell if he is jewish
>>2718728
Pretty much anything that makes Israel look good or their enemies look bad is a Mossad psy-op. No reason to ever think otherwise, you should assume bullshit is going on in all cases.
Also when you see a public figure that's critical of Israel suddenly get a lot of "criticism" online, it's 100% hasbara.
>>2718740Iran has one of the worst prostitution industries in the region? What about Dubai? What about Israel? What about Qatar?
>>2718747
>I bend over and concede that the US is imperialist because it is capitalist now plz allow me to go back to distract from this fact by rehashing pol talking points
No.
>>2718749
Plz help is he jewish or not I can't nootice
>>2718753Do you have any proof of Iran's prostitution industry?
>>2718755>proofs capitalist shithole #3694398 which officially uses a special term for prostitution, has prostitution?I flew piggies to Mashhad so they can fuck destituted girls
How about you search the article I linked and google if the sky is blue while at it
>>2718754I am jewish, You are jewish, Everyone in and outside this thread is jewish.
World peace established.
>>2718724
This kind of stuff is making me into a "sex-negative feminist" Like come on. Selling a war by advertising to Westerners that you can now buy the women on a sex market?
>>2718757
Rabbi? Is he jewish? There is no parentheses though
>>2718761
It doesn't work anymore, which is why zios are so flustered.
Israel is conducting the same kind of civilian terror bombing campaign they used in Lebanon to repress Hezbollah in Tehran.
>>2718768>civilian terror bombing campaignThey don't know how to do anything else.
But this time they bit off more than they can chew.
>>2718770Why Jerusalem? Muslims and Christians live there. Tel Aviv I can understand.
>>2718765Detecting levels of antisemitism levels of: 4532.2312 בְ
Why didn't burgers assassinate Saddam Khamenei style?
Obviously after Iraq and US knows it cannot afford to be bogged down in another war of that scale so it's limiting its operations in preparation for the grand war to end all wars.
What's funny is that the US considered replacing Saddam with another Ba'athist but non close to him accepted. Could the assassination mean the US found a replacement this time?
This is of course discounting the biggest factor here which is capital dealing with overproduction through mindless destruction.
>>2718768>Bombing the most liberal and pro-America part of Irangreat move
>>2718773drones didn't exist in 2003.
>>2718774>bombing the most proletariat part of IranFTFY
Jeez I wonder why imperialists want organized proles dead :3
>>2718776Tehran is not the most proletariat part of Iran. It's where all the Iranian bourgeois are based.
>>2718758
The old "you kept calling me a nazi so I became a nazi" argument. It worked wonders on /pol/
>>2718778Each of whom employees dozen workers. Thanks gor agreeing.
Also Arak is more proletariat you're right. That's why the Soviet first sprang there.
>>2718781How are they doing?
>>2718779No one here is a nazi, you're just a zionist shill. Go away.
>>2718773The CIA at the time understood Saddam needed his stature diminished so that when they found him in a hole, did a mock trial and hung him, it was the 'people's choice'.
There wasn't much planning around the recent clusterfuck, only bloodlust.
>>2718784The trial gave birth to a billion chuddamists meanwhile Khamenei died seeking Jihad in a 13rd floor bunker
>>2718773>Could the assassination mean the US found a replacement this time?No, there's no indication of this. Iran hasn't shown any sign of softening its stance and is pretty clearly committed to war. Trump even said that a lot of the more moderate people they were hoping would take power are dead lmao. They maybe were hoping that the Iranians would cry uncle like Venezuela did but clearly they have miscalculated.
>>2718786
>Catholicism
>WASPs
Was he stupid?
>>2718787One died a shameful death and the other a martyr in he eyes of his people. If he'd hidden in a bunker this wouldn't be the case.
>>2718791Are you talking about the 13 year old Arabs and Muslims and the entire states of Jordan and Palestine who worship Saddam?
>>2718795I've never heard about that, I've never been there and 13 yr olds know jack shit so I wouldn't worry about it unless I was a reactionary Jew defending Israel.
Saddam is so worshipped by Palis that Iranian diaspora use it as a talking point against Palestinians.
I don't think Khamenei and Nasrallah will ever match up considering their last actions were negotiating with the US and praying they don't get bombed + they're Shia in a Sunni region
>>2718780Why do Zionists look like soyboys?
do marxists hate porn or like porn? I'm confused
>>2718802pornography is a treat.
>>2718802all sex work is exploitative because it implies work
>>2718802Marxists are against all porn except ones involving Khamenei and Saddam going at it
>>2718442It's just channer language newfriend
>>2718799>Saddam is so worshipped by Palis source? wasn't he the main backer of the plo? wich has been despised since the 2nd intifada
>Cuckmenini
>is a cuck
>Chuddam
>is a chud
Who writes this shit?
>Retired US Colonel Douglas MacGregor tells Matt Gaetz that all US bases in the Iranian region have been destroyed, and that Iran is performing well in the war.
He added that China and Russia are providing satellite intelligence, which he said explains some of Iran's major successes, particularly against Israel and US bases.
He also said that US port facilities have been destroyed, and that the United States has been forced to rely on Indian ports, which he described as less than ideal
so is iran losing
>>2718814Sorry but I'm convinced that this guy's talking out his ass and is grifting the paleocon media circuit. He made a ton of statements about the Ukraine war that failed to come true, as well as about the 12 Day War.
>>2718814could you provide a link to where he said this?
>>2718815So far they seem to be surviving. The biggest question atm is whether the imperialists can degrade Iran's missile and drone capabilities before they run out of interceptors.
>>2718819afaik Iran's missile factories are deep in the mountains. if the US failed to destroy Fordow I doubt they have enough bunker busters to destroy Iran's missile capabilities.
>>2718785yeah I heard they also throwing babies out of incubators and leaving them to die! O_O
wow…
This is an interimperialist war
>>2718650Idk what you posted to get labelled as such but honestly trying to post any so called nUANcED pERSPeCtive on Iranian leadership at this current time, in English, as I presume a westerner is pretty much serving the interest of empire.
>>2718820I've heard that they have some production and storage facilities underground, but I wouldn't assume that they are impervious to attack. The fact that Iran seems to be pursuing a strategy of widening and escalating the war though seems to indicate that they are prepared for a protracted conflict. The longer this drags on the more pressure the Americans will face both domestically and from the Gulf Arabs to bring it to an end.
>>2718650>some communists*western "communists"
Orginally
>>2718823No, this is an imperialist war of aggression on a backwards state
>>2718828There is nothing backwards or reactionary about Iran. It's a liberal bourgeois power wearing Imama.
>>2718830Backwards and reactionary relative to who? It's that relative to communists only as is any other liberal power.
And I never assume the people I'm replying to are communists so.
>>2718822that second guy is an actual CIA agent so I bet he's seething that his friends are dead lolz
>>2718826I suspect the Iranian plan is to bait the Americans into a ground invasion where they will be completely bogged down and slowly annihilated as morale falls apart. Hitting the gulf arab countries just puts more pressure on the US to divert Iran's attention away from the Saudi oil fields by sending troops. The way I see it the US only has two options in this war
>Beg for a ceasefire so they can salvage the global economy before oil prices quadruple>Send in ground troops to distract the Iranians and switch from a air bombardment strategy to a traditional combat front like Ukraine that puts the US at a disadvantage.Both options are bad for the US, and this situation could break down if Iran's missile capabilities are disabled, so I assume the Iranians thought this through and heavily prioritized protecting their missile launchers and factories. The US could always surprise us with their intel gathering capabilities though.
>>2718826I think ur right, the strategy is to survive until the aggressors have had enough.
>>2718832They're both washed up vets buckbroken by Iraq and Afghanistan
>>2718835what imperialism has iran been doing
>>2718835Iran is not an empire though?
>>2718841which empire is Iran a part of?
>>2718843Wouldn't that make it a world war?
>>2718832>so I assume the Iranians thought this through and heavily prioritized protecting their missile launchers and factoriesThey have some factories that are underground and presumably would be protected by most bombings, and their launchers are usually truck mounted and mobile, made from readily available civilian vehicles. So they can likely replace these in the long term, but the question remains whether the imperialists can potentially destroy them fast enough that Iran's missile capabilities are significantly diminished. Essentially the Epsteinites are in a race to destroy a sufficient number of missiles and/or launchers before they run out of interceptors. Some reports are saying that at the current rate this could happen to the Gulf States as early as next week, but I don't think figures for Israel and the US bases are publicly available.
>>2718845The newer hypersonic missiles can penetrate air defenses easier so maybe.
>>2718850over here apologist.
>>2718846 >>2718853
>m.jpg
if there was any doubt who da joos posters are, it's phone posting 4chuds
>>2718853https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_LockeThis guy is a riot
>>2718857Evangelicals are joos?
>>2718861>Evangelicals are joos?They're not Christian so basically.
>>2718861>Evangelicals are joos?they're like a slave cult of Judaism, like how Romans had their own deities explicitly for the slave caste to worship.
Okay, so jidf is doing 4chin b8 to derail the thread by making it all. about Jews. So long until the mods sort this out.
did Iran really destroy American radar bases?
stop spamming dude
>>2718888^buttshurt evangelical
>>2718891
Materialist explanation?
>>2718866
>>2718867
>>2718870
>>2718874
>>2718877
>>2718878
>>2718879
>>2718881
>>2718882
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>>2718886
>>2718891
>>2718894
I get it, Zionists have a bunch of Christians on their side.
I agree.
Can you stop spamming now please?
>>2718905
>Western civilization would perish without Israel
This is why Israel should be destroyed
If Iran is not communist then why would they warn the US where they will strike so the proletarian burger soldiers can be evacuated and safe? Checkmate ultras!
>>2718899Looks like an automated flood.
Please stop spamming this thread with YouTube videos
>>2718910They’d eat the mountains
>>2718936
Judaism as is known today (rabbinic Judaism) was founded as a reaction to Christianity.
>>2718954
Top tier milf
qrd on Iran status as of today?
>>2718965hell yeah brother 🇮🇷
The state of thread shows how things have fizzled
HAHAHAHA, has the mystery of the Yeltsinite's sudden halt to drone waves on Ukraine been explained, or is Bloomber being Bloomberg?????
<Zelensky offered to send Ukraine’s top drone-defense experts to help Middle Eastern countries stop Iranian Shahed drones.
<But only if regional leaders persuade Putin to agree to a temporary ceasefire (one month or shorter) in Ukraine.
<Source: Bloomberg
>>2718379>t. seething that he's lost money on PolyMarket betting WITH all the suckers who thought Putin would respond to this and thatI've been making bank. Thx for the money :)
Thread activity is declining. Have low-stamina sizzleheads thrown in the towel? Do they now feel the inexorable fizzle coming as we're heading to a week with not a single Israeli official punished?
>>2719036>not a single Israeli official punishedWas like that since that the start of war in October 2023
>>2719036there hasn't been a lot of hits today
>>2719036What's actually happening is that the basic parameters of the war have been established, so there's no need to treat every new airstrike or drone attack as some piece of important news.
>>2718652Bros, my dating life is in critical condition because I keep comparing potential dates with Irene in looks and personality and even fucking accent, and the comparison is grim. Given my own mediocre offerings, I don't see this changing soon :-(
>>2719044Ah, yes, the ol' #271 excuse. Always a good stand-by when the dreaded penumbra of the fizzle is fast approaching.
AlJazeera is showing westerners trapped in the gulf and they're all saying "I don't like it". Looks like a pause in bombing since people can't get out and they don't like it.
The US massively restocked today. Iran won't have another opportunity here. Looks less capable of fighting today than yesterday. I'm sure this is emboldening Israeli and the US and they will strike 10x harder.
>>2718853
Evangelicals, am I right?
>>2719050>The US massively restocked today.Sauce? They may have redeployed interceptor batteries from elsewhere but per Rubio's own admission they can only actually produce a handful of them each month.
>>2719050Iran has all the military capabilities and production it needs, but as usual, (1) Iran doesn't hit the most punishing targets because it wants a diplomatic retreat at the expense of full deterrence, (2) the decent moves Iran does make, such as the Hormuz closure, aren't pursued long enough to cause real pain. If Iran were serious, it would keep Hormuz closed for at least six months.
>>2719036they will cope until its been a week after the last strike
by march 20th they'll all have given up
Iran doesn't actually have to kill Netanyahu itself to restore the cosmic crystal equilibrium. With enough economic leverage, I wonder what would happen if Iran simply said that it's not going to negotiate or agree to ceasefires until Netanyahu is pushing up daisies. He's not particularly well-liked among the Ehud Barak and Clinton/Obama spook types.
>>2719053Perhaps from the inside things just seem different to them, but if they somehow negotiate a "ceasefire", then the next time this happens, and there will be a next time, it's going to be a NATO/GCC/ISRAEL/US operation.
>>2719057Iran has the opportunity to cause US domestic unrest on a scale not seen in decades. All it has to do is keep the pool closed and wait for Trump to freak out about his midterms, going for one of those national emergency moves he's been rumored to be considering.
>>2719036Every time someone pisses off one poster the thread gets spammed with miga nonsense
>>2719071Yeah, I've noticed the Jewish trolls control this thread.
Are we in the fizzle zone again?
this is ww3 isnt it. All we need is china to join
>>2719101WWIII started February 2022. Ths theaters are slowly opening up and lines are being drawn. Iran has been sizzling since Trump took office and China will get roped into Taiwan this year or 2027. That is when it will be called WWIII
>>2719101If China enters, it will be on the side of the Gulf monarchies.
>>2719098Not quite, but the sizzlers have lowered their victory flag from "Iran punishes US/Israel for killing Khamenei" to "Iran survives regime change effort." Given that there's not going to be any truly reciprocal punishment, it all comes down to how long Iran has the nerve to keep Hormuz closed.
>>2719117What were the targets?
Why is it like trying to drawing blood from a stone to look past the fireworks and get details on TARGETS?
Are we really doing this again?
>>2719109The spectacle brained have, indeed, calmed down. Iran retaliating in a way that hapooners dream about will never happen.
But that doesn't mean they're incapable. Problem is that sinking a US carrier is a point of no return.
>>2719101Ww3 started with the gulf war
>>2719127how the fuck should we know? sorry lemme go call up the IRGC
>>2719128I agree that it's about will, not capability. I just don't think they have the will to truly traumatize the US/Israel populations the way their own population has been traumatized. The Hormuz game of chicken will be interesting.
>>2719134Sizzlers are never escaping the "all sizzle, no steak" allegations, are they?
>>2719127We only ever get vids of arrivals because the zionists heavily censor any footage of impacts on important targets
>>2719127>What were the targets?let me ask the '40 behaded baked babies' crowd. they will surely tell me what got hit.
place your bets when china invades taiwan
I bet next year
>>2719135They can traumatize Israel plenty. But reaching the US would require doing actual terrorism, which looks bad.
Reminder:
Never ask a woman her age,
a man his salary,
or spectacle-brained dorks the targets of their light show.
>>2719124-10%
analogue to the S&P 500.
>>2719142we'll find out eventually won't we. someone will win this.
Iran happeners are like the Ukraine happeners on Telegram who demand that an Oreshnik be fired at the Rada, even though it's not even the best weapon for the job and the use of the weapon is highly telegraphed. But that doesn't matter, it's all about the plasma light show.
Actually, Iran happeners are worse, because they don't even care about the target apparently, just seeing the light show.
>>2719140xi wanted the PLA to be fully operational by 2027 right?
>>2719156yes :)
you know what that means
>>2719117pretty sure this is old
>>2719150nah i just want to see Israel destroyed I don't even care how they do it I just want that cursed piece of land wiped off the face of the earth and all its zionist inhabitants sent straight to hell.
>>2719150you seems to be like a NEHcel under some withdrawal effect. the NEH for months got you bad, huh?
anyway, resuming some news:
chuck schumer:
>Reporter: Do you think Israel boxed the US into war with Iran?
>Schumer: "Look, no one wants a nuclear war, no one wants a nuclear Israel, but we certainly don't want an endless war."
>*Walks away*
>*Turns around*
>Schumer: "What'd I say?"
>Reporter: "Nuclear Israel."
>Schumer: "Oh, no! Let me say that again. No one wants an endless war, but we certainly don't want a nuclear Iran, that's for sure, okay?" >>2719163yes thats one way to put it
>>2719160are these all old, too?
let me know.
>>27191661 is lying, 3 and 4 are old
those are from the 12 day war
>>2719161Okay, sounds like you should care about targets in Israel, then.
>>2719162I don't see the utility of looking at light shows without any information on targets. Maybe they missed, maybe they didn't miss but hit something pretty minor like a vacated barracks or tire shed near a building, maybe they hit something major - there's just no point wondering.
>Hebrew Media: 'Israel estimates that Iran wants to continue the war for at least several months'
Better store some gas
>>2719176well you look at that, a happening
>>2719173Light shows don't destroy Israel, solid target selection does.
Glad to help, friend.
>>2719176Israelis are about to start crying about being victims of the war they started in like 2-3 days and beg for peace.
imagine this war continues for multiple years like the ukraine one
>>2719182It could if there were any appetite on the part of the Iranians, Chinese, and Russians to punish their Western partners and get revenge, but I doubt the appetite is there.
An Israeli fighter plane might have been shot down over Iran
>>2719171you are retarded. your link video doesn't match any of those above.
>>2719168>>2719169cope.
>>2719175I see the utility:
>>2719095 >>2719182If Iran stops bombing the gulf states this could happen but I don't see why Iran would stop bombing the gulf states since it's a massive drain on US resources. This war will be over in like 2-4 weeks, the global economy can't survive the Saudi oil fields being at reduced capacity for months.
Hitting energy infrastructure in the Gulf countries was a mistake because the US and Israel badly want those countries to enter the war. The Iranians should have focused on hitting the US bases and embassies only. Seems that decentralized command has allowed some IRGC commanders to go off script.
>>2719202Based commanders. If you're on-script, the US and Israel have already factored your response in and decided it's manageable.
>>2719202>The Iranians should have focused on hitting the US bases and embassies only.This would achieve nothing. Economical war is how Iran can strangle USA.
>>2719203don't forget to close the bunker.
>>2719202They were already using their defensive assets and their offensive ones don't matter at all.
Did you not see Qatar trying to arrange a harmless spectacle retaliatory strike with the IRGC and then denying that when it was reported on?
Should we be worried about Kurdish uprising or can the Iranians crush it while the war is going on?
>>2719202Iran has denied all responsibility for attacks on specific refineries, etc. only US military bases so far. and they've been scrapping very good those in all gulf states.
>>2719210It's all still rumors and the Iraqqi based Iranian Kurds don't really have the numbers.
>>2719210>or can the Iranians crush it while the war is going on?Iran doesnt have air superiority. Americans can bomb to dust any kind of troop concentrations.
>>2719202>decentralized command has allowed some IRGC commanders to go off script.nah, hitting the gulf was clearly part of the pre planned retaliation
>>2719226no, no, no, don't wish him dead just yet, he needs to be paraded in the streets of Tehran first.
>>2719212>>2719222Good news either way
>>2719222Interesting. Means Iran might have the pilot as a prisoner.
>>2719236Absolutely.
I think that's why NATO hasn't killed Cucktin yet, because they know any replacement would destroy them.
>>2719242meant to say "enemy territory" lol
4 weeks to tehran status?
special combat operation status?
>>2719222Israeli media saying now it was a F35 that downed a iranian fighter
>An Israeli Air Force F-35I fighter jet shot down an Iranian YAK-130 combat aircraft over Tehran, the Israeli military said Wednesday, marking what it described as the first time in the world that an F-35 has downed a manned fighter jet.https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkhvj00bkze >>2719246Yak 130s are training aircraft. What the hell was that thing doing up there?
>>2719246lmao, but the problem is that the locals recording stated that the jet wasn't Iranian, and the interceptor came from the ground.
>>2719250possibly to intercept slow moving israeli and american drones.
>>2719251interesting that the hebrew version in telegram differs from the english version lol
>>2719239>I think that's why NATO hasn't killed Cucktin yetI believe that the Russian hardliners started asking questions why "Ukraine" was assassinating only Russian hardliners, so Putin decided to pretend that one of Ukraine's drone swarms targeting something else was an assassination attempt: "look, they're trying to kill me too, see?" His passive response is how you know it wasn't a real assassination attempt.
>>2719202I disagree on the principle, those attacks make a point about how if you get US military assets on your territory you will get bombed in turn when those get used. It's a very important message to send that will make states recalculate their relationship with the US. Now it's debatable if they shouldn't have concentrated their limited amount of ordnance on assets of higher value…
>>2719206>>2719209this, only retards think that hitting them is a mistake
>>2719236The dictator meme is unironically gaining credence. I actually have no problem with dictatorships, because under competent leadership they offer many advantages over
democracies idiocracies. But, like, in any real open society, you'd expect harsh criticism of such flaccid leadership, and tbf, on Russian television the complaining from members of the thinking class has grown massively over the last half year, but they always shy away from naming who's making the decisions they criticize.
>>2719274
those fucking data scraping clankers only need ⬆➡⬇⬇⬇, and thanks god iran started to hit AWS servers
>>2719268Democracy (defined as having elections) is not that meaningful. It's just a system, a process. And systems are there to get gamed by the rich and connected. This is why governments in the West are some of the least popular out there, and few feel their governments serve them, even though they're "democratic". It's not without some value, it's at least some input people have into things, but that's all.
Meanwhile Iran is cast as a dictatorship, but they have elections and the people do have some input. The change to Pezeshkian after Raisi was at least some change in the direction of the country (though maybe not a good one), and it was chosen by the people, and probably not one Khamenei or "the theocracy" would have chosen, but that doesn't count for some reason.
>>2719228>>2719210The time to chimp out was at the start. Now IRGC dug in and they will absolutely put them down as harshly as possible if that comes to it.
But I don't know much about Kurds, especially Iranian ones. Wouldn't they also hate zionists after they bombed their country, including Kurdish towns, and killed 150 children for the fun of it? There may be Kurdish intellectuals who want that but the people are different thing.
>>2719274Interdastig but that's most of the internet now. I never proselytize or try to win arguments, I have fun testing the trainers since A1 can't experience the senses or understand humor so I try not to train the LLM but to confuse it.
>>2719280Huh, is it carrying a moab? Looks like it's headed to…
fuck
>Death toll in Iran rises to 1,045
>The death toll in Iran from the US-Israeli attacks has risen to 1,045, Iran’s semiofficial Tasnim news agency is reporting.
>>2719312Nvm not a c130
>>2719318Unfortunate.
>>2719274
And?
>>2719312didnt moabs expire a couple of years ago and thats why trump used them in syria in his first term?
>>2719334U got me, I haven't been paying much attention since he used them the first time. I think they're just moving some heavy artillery.
One trait of the US/Israel aggression against Iran is that US/Israel have people targets and Iran has thing targets. Which is superior? I dunno - time will tell.
>>2719338The US Israel have claimed they have hit a thousand something targets, most of those being thing targets.
>>2719280The trajectory appears to be epstein land.
>>2719274
>if you’re still clicking through threads on /leftypol/ thinking you’re "organizing" or "educating the masses,"
Ok but who actually thinks this?
>>2719312>Looks like it's headed to… >fuckI'm slow. Please explain. Russia? Belarus?
>>2719342<Replying earnestly to an obvious LLM postGit gud.
>>2719343When I posted that its path looked to be Iran. It turned right twice in the meantime.
>>2719345Fair enough, I was just taken aback by the absurdity
>>2719261The cucktin is prince geoffrey and golem in one body.
I hate that legalistic retard with a passion.
Strap me to a missile and send me flying into cucktin
>>2719142Someone should photoshop /leftypol/ on that gif of the dude who is freaking obsessed with the light coming from the prism that gets posted here
>>2719236>>2719268Notice how nobody is doing the martyanov cope about muh military academies etc. Nobody is giving cucktin benefit of the doubt. Everybody realizes he is a loser.
>>2718986Simple. The military censors are blocking everything so the plebs can enjoy the bread and circus. The romans were in denial when the goths were INSIDE rome.
>>2719348He wants another forever war to try to stay in power and the dumbocrats will let him do it. At least I don't have to listen to magatards talk about cheap gas since it's their go-to to pretend like all is well.
>Saudi state TV report suggests that the Gulf has been subjected to disinformation and media campaigns intended to drag their countries into the American-Israel war with Iran, against their interests
>A ballistic munition detected to have been launched from Iran and directed toward Turkish airspace after passing through the airspaces of Iraq and Syria has been neutralized by NATO air and missile defense units deployed in the Eastern Mediterranean, Türkiye’s Ministry of National Defense said in a statement on March 4.
Missile launched at Turkey
>>2719356>kuwait fighter "acidentally" shots down 3 or 5 burger jets destinated to bomb irani kneel to the kuwaiti pilot who did this
>>2719358I think they're smart enough to let the Kurds die alone in the north.
>>2719361Or maybe not.
>>2719358They had some Gulfcells on AJ Insde Story last night acting like they're poor innocent victims who didn't do nothing and are neutral in this. Teamed up to completely hammer the Iranian rep.
Absurd stuff
>>2719368Some rednecks are actually pretty cool.
Hezbollah and Iran launched coordinated attacks towards Israel. GREAT!
>>2719367>outsource your manufacturing base to china for decades and fire your manufacturing sector while telling them they need to suck it up and get degrees in tech>say you'll make up for it with "super high tech state of the art missiles" that cost $10,000,000 each and just built 5 of those a year instead of storing a large arsenal because those large warehouses can be better used for AI datacenters>shocked pikachu face when you blow your load in the first 12 hours of a conflict and suddenly can't build moreSun Tzu says:
<He who lives by liberal wealth extraction also dies by liberal wealth extraction >>2719375I'm waiting for the Houthis to start an offensive into the rest of Yemen while the US is distracted. That's when shit will get real.
>>2719141They can destroy a carrier.
Lesson learned, evil wins over good because evil is like aggresive cancer cells while good just wants to be left alone. Thats why evil fears bolshevism because it is like a good cancer. This bullshit meekness is the reason for the slow death of BRICS.
Stop trying to play american politics.
Sink a carrier.
TOTAL WAR NAUUUU!!!
>>2719381Wanting to be left alone would be a massive improvement over wanting to be friends with America even when told no.
>>2719381Sinking a carrier probably isn't directly relevant to Iran's strategy. If it happens by accident thats good but an aircraft carrier is basically just a floating military base. Iran's plan is just exhausting western resources through a prolonged conflict.
This isn't "good vs evil" but just basic strategy of a nation that is surrounded at all sides by hostile forces and wants to maximize its chances of survival.
>American secretary of defense: "TWO MORE DAYS!"
I lose trust in modern anti-western imperialism coalition when Assad fled to russia already.
Trump is gambling on Iran cucking out of destroying a carrier. If Iran calls his bluff, he's finished politically. I think Iran has enough home-grown spine to do that, but other BRICS states will likely pressure a cuckout.
>>2719388Russia and China are supplying Iran with satellite data for targeting Israeli/American bases so they're at least trying behind the scenes.
>>2719392The evidence I've seen for that isn't zero (for China anyway), but it's pretty weak evidence. It stands to reason that if the public evidence were compelling, China wouldn't be able to deny assisting Iran, yet it has denied.
>>2719385It's kind of difficult to hit a carrier.
It looks big, but the ocean is really big, so the carrier is like a tiny pixel in a satellite image. Also it's moving. They are surrounded by a flotilla of warships with air defense missiles too. But the first problem is finding it, maintaining a track, and being able to synchronize the track with maneuverable weapons that receive instructions from the satellites. This takes a lot of math and science and engineering. China could potentially do it. That is if you're using land-based missiles which is the only thing available to Iran.
>>2719397Well carriers carry aircraft, their primary protection is they’re supposed to be many many nautical miles away from where the enemy is, as far as the range of the aircraft allow. Therefore if you do try to attack it with missiles you’ve got a fair amount of warning that’s happening and respond to it.
Sailing a carrier right up to the enemy as a show of force is not the recommended strategy in the manual.
The US isn't shy about announcing all the help it gives to Chinese and Russian adversaries, so what we're asked to believe is that China and Russia are too timid to announce giving help to US adversaries but aren't too timid to do so behind the scenes in ways the US is going to learn about anyway. Possible, but eh…
>>2719399>helpThey’re proxies, the US issues commands to them.
>>2719367Hello Trumpden, ooooh Trumpden
It's Bibinsky
I need 5 trillion rokets to bomb Iran children
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15607975/us-bombs-iran-biblical-end-days.htmlChat is it a good sign when major news organizations are openly cheering on the idea of the apocalypse?
>>2719408The Chinese were smart not to entertain all that dumb religion shit.
>>2719411theu could try something like underwater drone spam
>Therefore if you do try to attack it with missiles you’ve got a fair amount of warning that’s happening and respond to it.
huh?
you = iran
you've = america
right?
>>2719414If they don't have them already built by now then it's too late.
>>2719421Whom'st'dy'all'd've
Whatever happened to the superweapon Iran was about to use for a first time yesterday?
>>2719418no? russia and ukraine developed plenty of new weaponized drones
>>2719425it prolly was the cluster missile
Regarding the sinking of carriers, a submarine sinked an Iranian navy ship with over 80 dead
Fucking Bibi is just rubbing it in with the PR now - footage of calmly eating dinner and wiping his mouth with a napkin.
>>2719367>The administration has been steadily ratcheting up pressure on defense contractors to prioritize production over shareholder payouts. President Donald Trump signed an executive order in January to identify contractors deemed to be underperforming on contracts while distributing profits to shareholders.AES??
>>2719427That's a completely different scenario. Cucktin doesn't behave like the US. Also no one is providing Iran with billions of dollars of financial assistance and weapons. Anytime an IRGC guy sticks his head out, he gets bombed. Syrsky, budanov, agent z, are all still walking around.
>>2719431Hm, the problem with submarines is you don't get lights in the sky, THO.
>>2719438There's a precedent that an order like that would be illegal. During the Korean War Truman tried to nationalize the steel industry to better coordinate war production and the Supreme Court ruled it u constitutional. Forcing defence companies to sacrifice profits to serve strategic goals might be deemed so under the same principles.
By all appearances, Iran is deliberately avoiding the targeting of any Israeli or American personnel, political OR military, simply posting launch videos to social media while saying nothing else.
Hormuz is the only discernible Chad move I'm aware of, though how long they intend to close it is anyone's guess.
>>2719446>Forcing defence companies to sacrifice profits to serve strategic goals might be deemed so under the same principlestrump just successfully nationalized U.S Steel last year so even if the courts find coercing defense companies illegal (they wont) the order would be ignored. we're in uncharted territory rn
>>2719446Please, comrades at raytheon must do this. I believe in them. The almighty MIC must push back against this totalitarian measure that is dangerous to our democracy.
Taking bets.
I'm all in for Iran.
>>2719448flghumpth definitely did not nationalize US steel lol
>>2719447It’s more tasty if they shoot themselves or if they get lynched by a vengeful public
wth has gotten into spain?
>Spanish Prime Minister Sánchez has openly confronted Trump after the latter announced yesterday that he would sever trade relations with Spain.
>In his speech, he criticized Trump for his decision to start a war, emphasizing that his country does not support it and, above all, adheres to the principles of international law. He also pointed out that 23 years ago, there was already a major war in the Middle East in Iraq, which had devastating consequences, including increased migration and a rise in international Islamic terrorism.
>"Spain opposes this catastrophe. Because we understand that governments are there to improve people's lives, to solve problems, not to worsen them. And it is absolutely unacceptable that leaders who are incapable of fulfilling this task use the smokescreen of war to mask their incompetence and line the pockets of a select few."
>Sánchez concluded his speech by declaring that his country would not be complicit in anything that contradicts its values simply because of "fear of reprisals from some individuals," and that he had confidence in "Spain's economic, institutional, and moral strength."
>>2719367Inb4 they run out of bombs and resort to the nuke
>jackson hinkle is in the “useful links”
For who?
>>2719457There's an adult in the room.
It's about time.
>>2719454read the actual terms of the agreement, he absolutely did. and its not even under his or his foundations name, the ownership stake of U.S Steel (the golden share) passes on to the next presidents office when trump dies. among other things it gives the state department complete control over choosing board members with veto powers on everyone elses board pick. its effectively under state control the same way Petrobras is under brazilian control and Gazprom is under Russian control, they use golden shares too
its not just U.S Steel either, trumps been forced taking ownership stakes in Lithium and REM companies to stay competitive with China. He also took a stake in Intel.
>The Defense Department is spending $400 million in taxpayer funds to buy a 15 percent stake in MP Materials, a California company that harvests rare earth minerals. The arrangement makes the government the firm’s largest shareholder.
>In a related step, the Trump administration announced it is acquiring 10 percent of Intel stock in exchange for $9 billion in federal grants the tech company was slated to receive under the CHIPS Act. This makes the government the largest Intel shareholder. Walter Isaacson observed, “You’re seeing what is really state capitalism here, where the government is interfering in all sorts of ways in corporate decisions, whether it be pricing, whether it be Coca-Cola, whether it be Intel, and maybe taking a stake in it.”https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-state-capitalism-hybrid-between-socialism-capitalism-wont-make-america-great-again >>2719457>Pedro Sánchez's approval rating has fluctuated, with recent polls indicating around 34% of Spaniards view him favorably, while 65% have an unfavorable opinion. dude's fairly more unpopular than trump kek
spain is joining the fray soon
>>2719457it seems they are true social democrats and not social fascist zionists like zohran, platner and bernie (the heroes of /USApol/, you get called a "TWist" or a "moralist" if you point out their objective nature there)
>>2719470Normal European popularity, Merz is at 25, Macron at 10
>Arizona Sen. Ruben Gallego, who is an Iraq war veteran, told CNN that Monday’s briefing with Secretary of State Marco Rubio revealed that the Trump administration has no clear exit strategy for its war with Iran.
>“The most important thing that came away from this was, number one, we don’t have a plan on how to get out of this,” the Democratic senator said. He added that without a clear plan, there is a risk it could turn into a “long-term war.”
>“We don‘t actually have a concept of victory. We—you know, our justification for going into the war is entirely different from what we‘re hearing from the president right now. Again, this is even after the president went publicly and spoke to that. And that all is a very scary situation. Like, for me, as someone who had to live through some really bad decisions in 2005 that the, you know, the then-administration did, if we don‘t know how we can get out of this war, if we don‘t know what the actual victory is, we‘re seeing potentially a long-term war," he said. He added: “The president has not been very clear how and when it ends. And more importantly, the American public does not want this right now.”
<Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who sits on Armed Services Committee, said in a video posted on X that the U.S. government has no plan for Iran.
<“It is so much worse than you thought. You are right to be worried,” Warren said. after attending a Senate briefing with Rubio and other top officials. “The Trump administration has no plan in Iran.”https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-hill-briefing-reveals-that-theres-no-endgame-in-iran/ >>2719468when those fuckers atleast will do a referendum to leave NATO.
>>271947034% of approval is still high, it means alot of population support your projects
>>2719452Always bet on NEH
>>2719496These psychos need to be kept away from the rest of humanity.
>Trump admin officials acknowledged during a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill Tuesday that Iran’s Shahed attack drones represent a major challenge and US air defenses will not be able to intercept them all. The drones, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine acknowledged, are posing a bigger problem than anticipated, per sources in the briefing.
lol they didn't learn a damn thing from ukraine. i can't wait to watch dubai get the Bakhmut treatment
>>2719502Why did Iran decide to place their country to close to the Jewish homeland ?
>>2719411Lucky for Iran, the hidrocarbon refineries and storage facilities are huge targets, immobile and
quite flammable.
>>2719471I think this just proves Spain is not part of the imperial core at this point
>>2719477Macron has been absolutly disastrous for France, can't really call him the average european leader, I've never met anyone who even remotly liked the guy, even his former supporters are shamed now.
>>2719471PSOE have historically been social fascists
>>2719511This is correct I think. They've been pushed to the side and are more or less in a similar situation to Türkiye, being west-adjacent but not really part of it.
A bit closer to the west than Türkiye tho.
stop simping for spain
pp+vox coalition will win next year
>>2719513>historicallywhat about now
>>2719511Lol yeah no. There's nothing liberal nationalists hate more than a badly run war. Imperialist unity is simply breaking down that's all
>>2719513Social Democrats in imperial nations are social fascists, while those outside the metropole can be considered progressive to some degree, but it’s still a dead end reformism that necessitates suppression of true workers movements (like you see in Venezuela)
>>2719511Eh, we'll see. Chances are the party in power is going to get replaced by a very zionist one soon. Would be neat if they got out of NATO before that though
Update on downed plane?
>>2719508for what purpose tho
>>2719513Also powerless. Spain embraced neoliberalism disguised as democracy since the end of the dictatorship. Their opposition to NATO is performative. Podemos, which was at least left-ier than PSOE is now a liberal feminist rag.
Plus Sanchez's government is being proven corrupt as hell, they all are, as we speak. With his coalition weakening. A change of turn to the right which is 100% atlanticist stooges could end up mortgaging the country to NATO in the following 4 years. I don't think the right would have any remorse whatsoever being thinly veiled wreckers a-la Milei.
>>2719527Ynet said that video is an American jet.
>>2719530for the love of the game
>>2719528>american fascist>literally named The Klanbruh
>>2719538FUCK. i meant kurds
>>2719538>>2719541Nothingburger even if it wasn't a false flag and hit its target. Article 4 and 5 of NATO relies on the attacked state to invoke them and Turkey wouldn't do that since they're opposed to the war.
Is China still supplying Iran parts to make weapons? Also bets on how long until Trump starts bitching about this.
>>2718373How does /pol/ still exist with the innuendo that their entire alt-right movement was made by a [spoiler] JEW [/spoiler] pedo
>>2718421If you receive weapons or backing from the empire, then there's nothing revolutionary about your socialism. Total Iranian victory against by zionist assets is the only correct take inshallah
Countdown bros until Tel Aviv no longer has a skyline?
>>2719522vox is guaranteed to win next election so you're correct
>>2719547how would they if the strait is closed
>>2719552woah the US and the US but jewish are working together?
>>2718453One on the deceased is from my state, from a suburb that was in the same division as my high school
o7 o7
I know he died in vain but may Iran erase Israhell from the map before another homie dies in vain.
>>2719530Israel wants Iran to be weak, they want to cause as much chaos as they can, they don't care who actually wins they want to cause a civil war, and what better way to get people angry then killing little girls ?
>>2719513>social fascists>repeating 1930s talking pointswill leftoids ever learn
>>2719555also CHYNA and afghanistan took too long on the land corridor and the pakistani proxy is chimping out anyways so that's ruled out
the meme answer is airlifting them lol
>>2719438Imperialism builds the material base for socialism. Lenin talked about this. Many such cases.
>>2719547Always assume that a country is giga cucked first until proven wrong especially in these cucked times
>>2719567This guy is a MAGA puppet
>>2719566learn that they were right?
>>2719571>Always assumeretard
>>2719567It's funny that people still gloat about Venezuela. As if the country collapsed in 15min or something. Now we see the same with iran
>fizzlers still coping hard
lol, delusional eetards
fizzle'd
>>2719577You angry little Epsteinite?
>Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto was among the trapped. He had been in the U.A.E. with his family when the fighting broke out. He made it out on a military flight but had to leave his family behind, he said in a social-media post Sunday.
just lol
>>2719583Lmao, just like that captain that literally abandoned ship and left people to die.
Why are Italians like this?
>>2719585shifty, cowardly, dishonest, corrupt, basically all italians
On /pol/ and in various news and even here I've seen people mock Russia for "not defending Iran" or assisting it militarily (directly). This is such a childish understanding of world economy that it's no wonder that Trump has deluded himself into believe it too. Russia IS busy with its own shit, but that's not WHY it's staying out of it. For all intents and purposes this war is to Russia's benefit, particularly economically and politically.
>1) Oil. Iran's strangling of the Hormuz, the strikes on various oil refineries and storage as well as in Yemen have disrupted Middle Eastern Oil Export. Iran's export dropped and so has the other nations, which means that importing countries like Europe are going to have an energy crisis. Even China, which relies a decent amount on Iranian oil supplies will be affected. This means that Russian oil becomes much more valuable and a more significant lever for pressuring the West while increasing money in the treasury.
>2) Political Influence and high-groundThe USA is rapidly going mask off and destabilizing the shaky solidarity of the Western bloc*** with its activity as well as the faith the Middle Eastern Nations like Saudia Arabia have in it, this gives potential opportunities for Russia to gain political support. This is especially true due to Iranian civilian casualties, the assassination of the leadership of Iran and attacking it amidst diplomatic discussion as a way to browbeat them into complying with demands. The inability to fully defend airspace from incoming missiles is also a hit to US military prowess.
>3) Military ExpenditureBoth sides are using immense numbers of weapons. The US announced that it deployed 50,000 troops, 200+ strike fighters and other forces. Already at least four Billion dollar THAAD systems have been eliminated by Iran*, as well as structural damage to several military bases and airfields, several sunken and damaged ships, shot down 3 F-15Es of the latest model and more including reports from Iran striking a USN Destroyer* in just 4 days of war, not to mention large numbers of missiles and bombs being expended. As of posting, CENTCOM has claimed to have struck 2000 Iranian targets, that's at least 2000 munitions, and usually several missiles are expended on a single large target. Iran is suffering heavy losses as well, 17 ships sunk or damaged so far, mostly struck in port while the IRIS Dana was sunk by submarine, 2 Su-24s shot down, 2 F5s and an F4 destroyed on the ground as well as 2 Su-22s hit on the ground. Numerous missile launchers have been destroyed and while the main bases buried deep underground in the mountains are safe, that's still a significant loss of equipment. This means that Russia has a large potential market in Iran for its arms exports and a lot more leverage to do so. Especially as local and Chinese air-defenses are struggling to keep up. The War also gives Russian and Chinese ISR an opportunity to gather data on US capabilities and prepare accordingly.
Furthermore Iran is safe from any actual regime change at the moment, besides the broader theocratic fury over Khomeini the school and the deaths there from the first day of the war is not going to be forgotten. The Kurds glowies are talking to in North-West Iran and Iraq are small guerilla forces posing no issue for Iran's military**. Iran may not be the best, but it's ground forces are well armed experienced with anti-armor operations. I do not think this is a situation like the First Gulf War where Saddam's forces, worn out from the Iran-Iraq War and with heavily outdated weapons were knocked back by the American coalition. It's definitely not comparable to the Second War where Iraq basically had no organized military. Yet in both wars US ground losses were pretty high, despite propaganda and classifying of data to hide them. American ground forces haven't fought a large scale war like in Iraq in nearly 2 decades, the veterans of those conflicts retired and struggle to acquire the welfare they were promised.
Honestly I'm more worried for Cuba.
TL;DR: The war is strangling Middle Eastern Oil, giving the market to Russia. The USA is destabilizing the world with potential diplomatic fall out. The military expenditure on both sides means a weakened American military in the short-run, causing support for Ukraine and Taiwan to falter and Iran becomes an even bigger customer for Russian arms. There is no way Iran will fall without a ground war and the USA would need to commit everything but a kitchen sink for it, which they can't afford; China is waiting to strike back and Ukraine would surrender in a week if American weapons and ISR stopped flowing in. So as a trade partner and friendly country Iran is safe.
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https://archive.ph/Wg6Hz ,
https://archive.ph/dWOXa ,
https://archive.ph/HqiRQ , (PAC 2s are being used because PAC 3s have run out)
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https://archive.ph/yrGdc ***
https://archive.ph/dw10q>>2719613>socdems doing more for multipolarity than communistsKKKKKEEEEEEEEKKKKKKK
Bread baker, I want your strongest bread baked.
>>2719621I'll do it in 20 mins if it isn't done.
>>2719604I think the other advantage for Russia is that the USA is using it's reserve of equipment for the middle east, instead of sending it to Ukraine, the USA's intelligence agencies are also concentrating on Iran and therefore ignoring Ukraine, meaning that Ukraine doesn't get as much information on Russian troop location.
>>2719618Norway has also condemned the attacks, I believe Ireland and Slovenia have also made a "both side bad" statement (more then any other EU country, even if a bit hypocritical)
Spain is obviously the most open one on its criticism.
>>2719212What about that big ass fireball from the night before?
>>2719628>I think the other advantage for Russia is that the USA is using it's reserve of equipment for the middle east, instead of sending it to Ukraine, the USA's intelligence agencies are also concentrating on Iran and therefore ignoring Ukraine, meaning that Ukraine doesn't get as much information on Russian troop location. Agreed, that's what I meant in my TL;DR
>>2719604may trump was a russian stooge all along
>>2719212Def not a drone?
>>2719523>>2719517How do you know they're decoys?
>>2719640see the propellers. they don't flinch after an explosion.
I am inclined to believe that they are posting AI generated videos.
>>2719440are you a fucking bot? what does that shit have to do with it?
>>2719447delusional retard
>>2719547probably yes
>>2719649yeah its true theres usually more shit flying off
>>2719648>are you a fucking bot? what does that shit have to do with it?Yep, you caught me, I'm a bot because you don't understand anything I'm telling you. The underwater drones aren't coming you fucking retard, they don't have the manufacturing capacity for them and they havent built any. Still confused?
>>2719604This has been the calculus from Russia and China since the beginning. The goal has always been to let America sink itself into the abyss by wasting all of its political capital and military equipment while exploiting the consequences. They're willing to get Iran to also front the costs because a weakened Iran is advantageous when they get the sweet infrastructure and rebuilding contracts. People that think either of them are going to step in and cause muh WWIII have the morality and politik of a toddler.
>>2719654>I'm a bot because you don't understand anything I'm telling youyou're a bot because you go muh cucktin muh billions muh targeted assassination which are all completely unrelated to the topic
>they don't have the manufacturing capacity for them you're a complete retard, ofc they have the manufacturing capacity to build them
>they havent built any<so they wont build anyabsolutely stupid way to reason
Thread's full! Make new bread!
>>2718593>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)Why???
>The Pentagon is rapidly burning through its stocks of precision weapons at a rate that puts the U.S. military potentially “days away” from having to prioritize which targets to intercept, according to three people familiar with the matter.
abu dhabi and riyadh boutta be glassed
>>2719649>>2719647Wow you guys are right. Good eye comrades, but I'll say that it looks more like doctored footage or possibly AI than destroying a decoy. It looks like they've just superimposed an explosion graphic onto an image of an aircraft. Either way it shows the desperation of the imperialists to act like this isn't a total disaster for them.
>>2719662>Completely unrelatedAre you legit retarded? You brought up Ukraine and Russia. I told you they are 2 different events that can't be compared. This makes you upset for some reason.
>ofc they have the manufacturing capacity to build themOh okay. Looks like you know everything then! I'm surprised you aren't commanding the IRGC yourself with all this knowledge! Stupid armchair fuck.
>>2719669AI would honestly look more realistic, it would be wonky as fuck, but the rest of the plane would 'react' to the explosion rather than being stock still like this. The latter superimposition of a still image would be more possible, although I don't doubt that Iran has decoy paintings, they have a lot of good classic skills. and it's worked for both Russian and Ukrainian airfields.
>>2719666Cute pic of your sister.
>>2719669I am unable to bake today.
Unless you force me to
>>2719664for antisemitism
>>2719657>ChinaHighly likely. Xi's do nothing and win strategy has been noted for a decade at this point.
>RussiaI'm doubtful about it, Cucktin is clearly pursuing a campaign of personal endearment with western ghouls with the entire country as his bargaining chip.
>>2719682…antisemitism
I… what? Where?
>>2719689stop playing dumb /pol/
it's the nazi dogwhistle with the brackets
>>2719672>You brought up Ukraine and Russiawhich doesnt change what you brought up about them is completely irrelevant. Most drones used in the early war were literally jury rigged commercial drones made by independents helpers/charity who supported various frontline military units rather than something that came from the top
>Looks like you know everything thenpretending a country that can send satellites and have a nuclear program doesnt have the manufacturing capacity to build some suicide underwater drones is retarded yes
>This makes you upset for some reason.stupidity upset me
>>2719695 >U-ur /pol/ because you don't know this supposed dogwhistle! I have never fucking heard this shit about parentheses being a "dogwhistle" you retard, sorry if I'm not a terminally online spaz like you.
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