/Iran/ - Iran War Thread #19
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<Latest News:>President Masoud Pezeshkian says Iran will never capitulate after US President Donald Trump demands “unconditional surrender” as Tehran continues to strike targets in Israel and Gulf region with drones and missiles.<As the war launched by the US and Israel goes into its second week with no signs of slowing down, Trump threatens “very hard” strikes on Iran and claims Iran “surrendered” to its neighbours after Pezeshkian said Iranian forces will not target regional countries unless attacks originate from there.>The IRGC, however, has warned that all US-Israel military bases and interests will be considered “primary targets” if attacks on Iran continue.<At least 41 people have been killed in Israeli air and ground raids on the Lebanese town of Nabi Chit, in the eastern Bekaa Valley.>Saudi Arabia says it intercepted and destroyed two ballistic missiles that was launched towards Prince Sultan airbase, as well as drones headed for the Shaybah oilfield.Operation Orange Fury started on February 28 2026
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>>2725609Syrian sunnis right now
>>27256082 more weeks until the special military operation is compelted
>>2725612Will be humiliating when he gets killed 12 hours later
>>2725613shalom /pol/ refugee! If the USraelis can kill whoever they want whenever they want why not kill all the candidates ahead of time? it would be more embarrassing
I really don't see a way for Iran to lose this…
Or, more precisely, I don't see a way for the US/Israel to win. Even if somehow things get destabilised internally and it looks like the IRGC could get overthrown (their original plan that didn't pan out), they can just go full kamikaze and destroy all the energy infrastructure in the gulf that they haven't touched yet due to lack of escalation.
>>2725618Iran only has to starve out the americans and israelis
https://www.kke.gr/article/Omilia-toy-GG-tis-KE-toy-KKE-Dimitri-Koytsoympa-sti-Boyli-gia-tis-ekselikseis-sxetika-me-ton-polemo-sti-Mesi-Anatoli-kai-to-n-s-gia-tin-epistoliki-psifo/
>Speech by the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the KKE, Dimitris Koutsoubas, in Parliament on the developments regarding the war in the Middle East and the issue of postal voting
>The strikes on American bases in all the countries of the Middle East, as well as the developments in Cyprus, are blowing up the propaganda that said that these bases are a guarantee of security, that “as long as the Americans are here, no one will bother us” and other such nonsense.
>We have been hearing this for so many years from governments, from parties, from various well-paid parrots. In the end, it turns out that they will “bother” us precisely because the Americans are here. Neither your assurances that “Greece is not involved in any way in the war”, nor the exhortations of other Euro-Atlanticist parties, not to get involved and not to use the bases, have any value. Because the problem is that we are already involved.
>You know, the bases are not decorative, nor do they exist to “stimulate local economies”, as your local executives go around saying. Those of you who disconnect the role of the bases from their very presence in our country, because you have supported this presence, are hypocrites and liars. The bases play a key role in carrying out the imperialist crimes of the US, NATO, Israel against the peoples of Iran, Lebanon, Palestine and who knows whose turn it will be tomorrow…
>For this reason alone they must leave, because the Greek people do not tolerate being the aggressor country against other peoples, in order to upgrade the position of the ruling class, that is, all those who steal their sweat. But, it is not only that. The images of the burning American bases in the Emirates, Bahrain, Iraq and elsewhere are speechless.Of course, we are concerned above all with the consequences suffered by the people of these countries that host them, as well as the Greeks who are there. Let us not wait until we see such images in Souda in Crete or in Alexandroupoli, in Larissa, in Araxos, which may not be long in coming…
>Here and now, the agreement must be denounced, the bases must be closed, these bases of death must finally be unfastened! At the same time, all units of the Greek Armed Forces that are abroad must return. And since we are now hearing some statements, which even touch the limits of cheerfulness, about the armed forces that are placed at the service of “ecumenical Hellenism”, really, you are not telling us, in the Red Sea where you have sent a Greek frigate and tankers are being set on fire nearby, what Hellenism exists?
>In Saudi Arabia, where you have sent a Patriot battery to guard the Aramco facilities, which are being bombed, what Hellenism is there? Did you send the weapons and armored vehicles that you have sent to the Zelensky regime for Hellenism? What exists in all these places are the interests of Greek shipowners, of course, the interests of large construction, energy, and other groups. You are sending them for them and to serve this plan and the big boss. For the same reason, you are now sending the frigates and aircraft to Cyprus. Not for the Hellenism of the island, but to protect the British, NATO bases that occupy 3% of its territory, while another of your ally, also a NATO army, the Turkish army, occupies 37%. At the same time, you are regurgitating ridiculous pretexts of the US and Israel for this war that they themselves started.
>You spoke about the need to “control Iran’s nuclear program” and that it is “one breath away from acquiring a nuclear weapon”. Well, last summer we learned from Trump that the US completely destroyed it and it will no longer concern us in the future! And now it’s the same thing again. So he was lying then, and obviously he is lying now! You are talking about the authoritarian theocratic regime that oppresses the people of Iran. Of course, that is how it is. And at the same time, however, you yourselves have agreements with other theocratic monarchical regimes of Saudi Arabia, the other Gulf monarchies, you supported the overthrow of Assad in Syria by the jihadists whom you later christened “inclusive”! Aren't the people, women, religious and ethnic minorities oppressed there? But you don't give a damn.
>You know very well that imperialists of all kinds will find excuses every time. Just as they found for the intervention in Venezuela two months ago, supposedly for the drug trade at the beginning. Back then you said that "it's not the time to talk about the legality of these actions"! Now you don't say that either. The time will probably never come for us to talk, or rather we will talk - whether we want to or not - when someone else decides to do the same to the detriment of Greece, since you legitimize this with your attitude.
>It is ridiculous to say that Trump and Netanyahu are interested in the people. They are only interested in their own selfish interests, just like you, even if the people are being tortured. It is, after all, a declared goal of the US and its allies to harm Iran, because it is one of China's most important strategic partners in the region, with which they are in conflict for global primacy. Netanyahu himself was waving in the UN the map with the “Indian” trade route, to which you are also committed and which Iran is going against, supporting competitive Chinese plans.Bros… Why the GS of KKE talks like typical /pol/…
>>2725619Yes, that's their plan rn.
>>2725618The First Gulf War was probably the most lopsided conflict in world history since the Anglos subdued Zanzibar, and it still didn't topple Saddam's government. This conflict is far less one-sided.
>>2725620>talks like typical /pol/to many words for that.
Le interimperialist conflict
Russian navy just struck
>>2725599Seems like killed 4chan today probably the discord of what's happening especially the P.I.G threads
>>2725618Iran cannot negotiate anymore, they have to go all in, it’s the only way for them to “win” this conflict. They have to hold out until Americans themselves force the political backlash to the war to become too severe to continue. Of course this also means AIPAC has to be made into an irrelevant lobby group.
>>2725634>AIPAC has to be made into an irrelevant lobby groupWon't happen. The Zionist mafia is backed by banking dynasties who control 50% of the world's financial wealth if not more.
Renouncing AIPAC is basically a huge step into destroying capitalism, and no one in the west who's even remotely close to power wants that.
>>2725635I disagree, even politicians are now beginning to see how politically suicidal all this has been. All it takes is one executive not in the hands on aipac to win and deny help to Israel even when they beg. We’ve done it before, and it can be done again.
>>2725638give it up man, AIPAC owns America. Israel owns America.
the only way to fix this shit would be a IRA-style insurgency targeting zionists until publicly identifying as a zionist becomes incompatible with self-preservation. these people happily sell out their country for a $50 red lobster gift card. the era of politicians caring about representing their voters is long over. now you vote for which israeli puppet you want: the racist one or the gay/female/black one
>>2725642thats clearly just the bat signal retard
>>2725644All the right-wing gifters left dubai so i don't see the point in bombing it now
>>2725646>All the right-wing gifters left dubaiproof?
>>2725646taking out a few shit-eating influencers is still always worth it
If the Iranians wanted to inflict greater damage and logistical strain on Israel then the cluster munitions are a good start. Even better however would be cluster warheads with delayed submunitions that don't detonate on impact, but instead have a randomized timed delay ranging from a few minutes to a few days after landing. This would make large areas of cities like Tel Aviv unusable, potentially for days after an initial strike and most likely result in more civilian casualties. They should also begin using incendiary munitions like napalm and white phosphorus, that would further delay the all clear and force Israel to devote additional resources to firefighting. They need to create a situation where Israelis can pretty much never leave their shelters for more than a couple hours.
>>2725653>irans given a billion dollars to hezbollah since the ceasefirebased
>>2725654iranis should carpet bomb tel aviv the same way the israelites carpet bombed tehran
or gaza
>>2725646hopefully there are some stranded gansters and assorted organized crime mafioso getting hit
>>2725650https://x.com/i/status/2029731127460520297Right as iran started bombing dubai andrew tate escaped for oman and his group of losers
>>2725667IDF soldiers dont count
>>2725667zionist proles get shot
>>2725671even palestinians?
>>2725654I assume they do not have chemical weapons, unfortunately. Much as I would love to see the israeli populace take it's own medicine, Iran has said they don't have them much the same as they don't have nukes
>>2725641>the era of politicians caring about representing their voters is long overimplying they ever did
>>2725673?? if you are a palestinian and you are a zionist you a) dont exist b) should get shot
>>2725678He is a leftcom not a lib
>>2725681he's a dengist. and you are too.
>>2725676there are palestinians in tel aviv and surrounding cities, there are also many migrant workers in israel too, you would literally be killing a majority of proles in either case
the dissunited ssnakkkess of crackkkmerikkka lost
the sstate of pissrahell lost
the islamic repvblic of iran won
>>2725685How many of those Palestinians are zionist? Moron, you asked if I thought zionists should be shot, I do think if you are a zionist you should be shot. Why are the Palestinians in Tel Aviv zionist when Zionists conquered and enslaved them?
>>2725602cringe meaningless slop
why is iran not capable of producing its own ad systems?
>>2725687because you are making a causal error by assuming not only everyone in tel aviv is a zionist, but everyone else is, therefore opposing the bombing of cities is le bad because of that
>>2725686Someone clearly forgot that Amerikkka put the Islamists in power in exchange for better oil prices in the 70s!
>>2725693yesterday they put putin in power
today they fight putin
yesterday they put ayatollah in power
today they fight ayatollah
american foreign policy means installing the bad, and later deposing it with worse.
america only ever wants to make a bad situation worse. always oppose.
israel attacked an iranian desalination plant
>>2725693get over the 20th century already
>>2725710first get over projecting anti-imperialism onto random states who fight america
Where all the Zoroastrians in Iran at? What they doin?
<same bickering faggotry across 19 threads
I hate you guys
>>2725719Yeah this site excels at retarded bickering. The best thing you can learn here is when to leave and come back later.
I want to see Bibi and Trump both get their heads exploded on live TV
>>2725722There should be multiple days of live executions of top politicians and military leaders of the USA and Israel
>>2725722Who would you have lead America after all those guys are gone? And don't say you will make yourself leader lol
>>2725692These things have to suck. They can’t hit any Zionist or US aircraft
>>2725728Leaders? We're communists. We'll rule by a council of workers council representatives.
>>2725728NY mayor, the paki dude
>>2725729America should just let China lead the way. Unfortunately China doesn't want to because they want a unipolar world. So America has to keep the reins despite being terrible and willing to destroy the planet to continue it's hegemony.
>>2725667Gonna be real with you man, not only do I not care what happens to Israelis, I actually want them to suffer.
>>2725729>declining empire>cant afford a house>gig economy job that will be replaced by automation or third worlder>intense tribalism and idpol as the result of multiculturalism>endless war>climate change>the people who rule over us are zionist boomers who want to end the world so jesus will come back>movies, tv, videogames, music, books, and culture suckIts not surprising that people have become self destructive nihilists
>>2725729imagine unironically having a kid so they can be subverted by the oracles and enslaved by the tech class
Cluster missiles currently over Tel Aviv.
>>2725729Everyone used to shit on the antinatalists before now. They realized they were right despite being cringe about it
>>2725754post the fucking videos instead of screenshots of them. why are you like this.
Matt Schlapp, the head of CPAC who has been repeatedly accused by men of sexual harassment/assault, says the Iranian schoolgirls killed by bombing are better off dead than alive “in a Burqa.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_SchlappIn January 2023, a campaign staffer for Herschel Walker's U.S. Senate campaign alleged that Schlapp groped him in October 2022 after Schlapp had been drinking. Schlapp denied the allegation.[22][23][21] The alleged victim filed claims against Schlapp for battery and defamation. The plaintiff provided records of contemporary phone calls and texts regarding the claims.[21]
In August 2023, The Daily Beast reported[24] that Schlapp had attempted to settle the lawsuit against him for a six-figure sum.[25] Earlier that month, two additional allegations of sexual assault by Schlapp against male staffers were reported by The Washington Post.[26] That December, CPAC was accused in the lawsuit of covering up the additional allegations.[27][28]
In March 2024, a Schlapp spokesman announced that the lawsuit had been dropped, quoting a statement from the plaintiff saying "The claims made in my lawsuits were the result of a complete misunderstanding, and I regret that the lawsuit caused pain to the Schlapp family" and "Neither the Schlapps nor the ACU paid me anything to dismiss my claims against them."[29] It turned out that the accuser was paid a settlement of $480,000 by the ACU's insurance company and was restrained from commenting.[30][31][32]
In February 2025, Schlapp was accused of sexually assaulting a man at a bar in Sperryville, Virginia.[33] A sheriff's report indicated that Schlapp made multiple bar patrons uncomfortable before groping a man's genitals and being kicked out of the bar. "Schlapp allegedly followed around and stood close to multiple groups of men in a Virginia bar, making them uncomfortable. After being confronted by some of the men, Schlapp did not stop, and was grazing his body against men while walking past, according to the report."[33][34][35]
>>2725760downloading videos from tg on desktop is annoying
>>2725763you guys seriously believe in this?
>>2725764thought bombs were supposed to explode
>>2725757With all of Iranian leadership and would be leadership getting constantly eliminated, the IRGC is going to have to implement some invisible committee type shi decentralization.
>>2725762Sorry. I just take some vids from last thread. I don't have time or inclination to check them. Assumed these 'tards would do so before upload but apparently not.
>>2725654>Even better however would be cluster warheads with delayed submunitions that don't detonate on impact, but instead have a randomized timed delay ranging from a few minutes to a few days after landing.🫣 beginning to sound like an Israeli here.
>>2725769Gulf oil is about to be destroyed, say goodbye to Desalination plants in Israel
>>2725765Why post it at all then? Like a teaser to drive traffic to your telegram?
>>2725769anything to distract from the epstein files
>>2725775because it's news. don't like it? just mentally skip all my posts. surely you can handle that?
>>2725767how do we know this is tel aviv?
Heavy rocket barrages from Lebanon pound Nahariya and Haifa… and the resistance targets the "Tel Hashomer" base.
Israeli media confirmed that warnings continued after large barrages of rockets were fired from Lebanon into the northern region.
Israeli media reported that two rockets were fired from Lebanon towards Haifa, with more than 40 rockets in the latest salvo, including heavy rockets, causing damage.
Israeli Channel 13 confirmed that damage occurred in Haifa and its surroundings as a result of rocket fire from Lebanon.
Israeli Channel 12 correspondent Dafna Liel reported "shots fired from Lebanon towards Haifa and the Krayot, and the sound of sirens."
As part of the warning issued by the Islamic Resistance to the occupied city of Nahariya, the Mujahideen targeted it with a swarm of attack drones, in another operation in which the Resistance targeted Nahariya with a missile salvo.
As part of the warning, the resistance also targeted the settlement of "Kiryat Shmona" with a swarm of attack drones.
Following this, Israeli media quoted settlers as saying that "Hezbollah fulfilled its promise to bomb the Nahariya area and its surroundings, after sending warning messages to evacuate it."
Earlier today, the military media of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon published warnings to settlers in the settlements of “Nahariya” and “Kiryat Shmona”, demanding that they evacuate them towards the south.
<The resistance targets occupation bases
The Islamic Resistance in Lebanon continued its operations against the Israeli occupation on Saturday in response to the Israeli aggression that targeted dozens of Lebanese cities and towns.
The resistance targeted the “Tel Hashomer” base (the headquarters of the General Staff southeast of “Tel Aviv”) with a qualitative missile. It is located 120 km away from the Lebanese border.
The resistance targeted the “Alta” military industries company northeast of the occupied city of Haifa, and the Haifa refinery, in two separate operations with a swarm of drones.
The resistance targeted the “Ein Zeitim” base northwest of the occupied city of Safed with a barrage of rockets.
<The resistance is fighting back… and Israeli soldiers are wounded.
Likewise, resistance fighters are confronting the occupation's incursions, as they targeted a large gathering of occupation vehicles at the Hounin gate opposite the town of Markaba with a rocket barrage.
In the city of Khiam, the Mujahideen targeted a gathering of Israeli soldiers on the southern outskirts of Khiam with a drone attack, and a gathering of Israeli soldiers at the newly established site in the Hamams hill with another drone attack.
The resistance also targeted, with rocket weapons, a gathering of occupation vehicles at the Fatima Gate in the town of Kfarkela.
Following this, the occupation army acknowledged that two soldiers from the Givati Brigade were wounded as a result of an anti-tank missile being fired in southern Lebanon.
Targeting the occupied territories from north to south… The Iranian Revolutionary Guard announces the implementation of the 26th wave
Iran’s Revolutionary Guard announced the execution of the 26th wave of Operation “True Promise 4”, through a combined attack using drones and missiles, targeting sites in the occupied territories from north to south.
The Revolutionary Guard explained that the attack was carried out using the new generation of missiles, including the “Emad” and “Qadr” missiles, in addition to the “Khaibar” missiles with multiple warheads, stressing that the strikes hit their targets with high accuracy.
The statement indicated that the destruction of enemy radar systems during previous waves of the operation "greatly facilitated the process of hitting targets."
The Revolutionary Guard added that all missiles launched during this wave hit their designated targets.
Later, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard announced that "in continuation of the 26th wave of Operation 'True Promise 4' and in response to the attack by American terrorists launched from the 'Jafir' base, this American base was targeted and hit accurately by the Revolutionary Guard's precision-guided missiles that operate with solid and liquid fuel."
The public relations office of Iran's Revolutionary Guard announced on Saturday the launch of the 25th phase of Operation "True Promise 4." The Guard stated that this phase was carried out using drones and Fatah and Emad precision-guided strategic missiles.
The Guard indicated that the 25th wave "targets the military centers and military support of the American-Israeli enemy in the region."
The Revolutionary Guard had previously announced, in a statement, the execution of a wave of attacks, numbered 24, within the "True Promise 4" operation, targeting a number of American military bases in the region
>>2725779>how do we know this is tel aviv?Close your eyes.
>>2725778The ones directed at the gulf seem to successfully hit better than before, though.
>>2725763This video was made by hasbara agents.
>>2725765It's not liar, there is a download button or 3 points > save as
>>2725791their hillbilly buttplug wearing army of sociopathic fentanyl addicts couldnt even do this to kuwait
>>2725778>>2725607they really need to coordinate their propaganda lmao
>>2725793It's westoid propaganda
>>2725761piers is such unparalleled dramaslop lord it's ridiculous
>>2725793Why should China get involved in what the ICP describes as an interimperialist war between Israel and Palestine?
>>2725793Based chinese communists understand anti-imperialism is not when small country defeats big country unlike campists
>>2725778>Sources: IDF SpokespersonBruh
>>2725804yeah dude, Saudi Arabia is not an imperialist country at all
Araghchi: Trump ‘killed’ Iran’s gesture towards its neighbours
“President Pezeshkian expressed openness to de-escalation within our region, provided that our neighbors’ airspace, territory, and waters are not used to attack the Iranian People”, Iran’s foreign minister says on X.
Earlier today, Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian said neighbouring countries would no longer be targeted unless an attack originates from there.
Iran’s “gesture to our neighbors was almost immediately killed by President Trump”, Araghchi continued.
Iran was hit with attacks shortly after the president’s statement was released, which triggered a wave of strikes targeting what it said were US assets in neighbouring Gulf nations.
Iranian missiles target Israel
Sirens have sounded in northern Israel, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as Iranian missiles targeted the area.
The IRGC’s public relations announced it had successfully carried out a combined drone and missile operation against US and Israeli targets.
It said targets in Haifa were hit with “new solid-fuel ‘Kheibar Shekan’ missiles”, which it said were capable of guided strikes to the point of impact.
Turkiye warns against further escalation in Middle East
Turkiye’s Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan has warned that recent developments in the Middle East raise serious concerns for regional peace and stability.
Speaking on behalf of the Organisation of Turkic States, Fidan said the group does not want the conflict to escalate further and is closely monitoring developments.
He said the bloc had adopted a joint statement declaring that any attack targeting one of its member states would be considered a matter of serious concern for all members.
The Organisation of Turkic States is an intergovernmental group made up of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Türkiye and Uzbekistan, with Hungary, Turkmenistan and Northern Cyprus holding observer status.
>>2725800How dare Hamasists make her do this
>>2725808holy fucking shit lmao
I'm worried that China and Russia are going to fuck us out of the sizzle by imposing their restraint shit on Iran.
>>2725799the insane clown posse?
>>2725799Please tell me that's a parody of the people who say that for other conflicts… and they didn't really say that.
they're hitting iranian refineries now
>>2725823this is their line unironically
>>2725823it's a strawman from butthurt campists
>>2725828>>2725827>>2725826I'm getting mixed messages here. Must I really click on the link? :-/
>the resident glowie has shown up with his usual tactic of making everything about china.
unfortunate
>>2725829Basically LeftCom take is that Hamas and Israel are imperialists, the proletariat of Gaza should rise up, overthrow Hamas then sign the treaty of Brest-Litovsk accepting Israeli occupation since they can’t overthrow world capitalism by themselves and if they set up a state in Palestine run by socialists, there would be commodity production, making them liberals and no different from Hamas
>>2725809>almost immediately killed by President Trump>almost the cuckery continues
>>2725832fighter jet in the dirt like it's on off-road mode
you people cant be that easy to fool
>>2725837yes he badly wants to de one of those Delta Force psychos. the only difference is they usually grow out beards and he hates facial hair
>>2725838That's an inflatable fighter jet
>>2725837It would be a lot more believable if he was a career military officer or something, but then of course he wouldn't be so retarded as to think this war was a good idea, and would probably see Trump for the dullard that he is. Instead his LARPing as le badass soldier man just comes across as Hermann Goring coded.
>>2725832tbh they should make all war-machines of this, it'd change the logistics game.
>>2725841yeah and military personel will fall for this
>>2725833braindead take, all the article states is that hamas used palestinians as cannon fodder (correct), israel and palestine are states by and for the bourgeoisie (correct), imperialism is a world system based upon capitalist competition (correct), all of this is quite easy to understand if you've read a lick of lenin at any point in your life
>>2725846>all of this is quite easy to understand if you've read a lick of lenin at any point in your lifeIf you adhere to Lenin's analysis then all that is a moot point because Lenin also says that communists should support national liberation struggles as a means to undermine the imperialist system.
US/Israel are escalating in ways knowing Iran will hesitate. Like with the desalination plants.
>>2725847Tucker Carlson continues to be well to the left of nearly every western “communist”, it’s almost uncanny how he never misses
>>2725849Iran has not shown any hesitation at all. They're the ones who escalated the conflict to a regional war rather than simply an exchange of fire between Iran and Israel.
>>2725850>Tucker Carlson continues to be well to the left of nearly every western “communist”Nonsensical statement.
>>2725850Dont care about this man. ISG or USApol
>>2725778I'd like to point out that decreasing drone attacks implies that it isn't a decrease in stockpiles or a degradation in Iran's capabilities that causes this.
Nobody argues that Iran is running short on drone launchers or even drones themselves because that's obviously fucking stupid. Likewise you don't need that much C2 to launch them and shit like that.
So while it sounds like cope, I do think the decreasing numbers (if you believe them) is a conscious decision on Iran's part ro lower the tempo of the war. There are many for why they'd do this, such as banking on the Hormuz blockade or turning the war into attritional one to force their enemies to finally back off.
Again, this might be cope on my part, but how do you explain both missiles and drones decreasing at the same time and at the same rate via external forces?
>>2725853
blinding the us and israel means. less needs to be shot to get through
>>2725853
>is a conscious decision on Iran's part ro lower the tempo of the war
both sides are doing it, the scale is shifter by propaganda tho
>>2725851The Iranian foreign minister said that Israel/US had set a precedent by attacking the desalination plants associated with 30 Iranian villages. People were expecting a retaliation against Israel's desalination plants, which are a strategic vulnerability.
>>2725850>it’s almost uncanny how he never missesDid you forget the part where has been shilling Trumpism for 10 years?
>>2725847such interesting piece of shit news to know in regards to the war, thank you tuckerfaggot for this useless update
>>2725850tucker calls arab proles illiterate monkeys while western "communists" (socdems like you) treat them as such
>>2725862I guess it's time to say "war good" to own the chvds
>>2725846So what should workers in Palestine do to end the genocide, knowing that the workers in Israel will not join them
>>2725865>Shilling CIA Nepo baby to own le libtards Shut down TOR again.
Head of Iran National Security Council says US failing in its goals for Iran
The Secretary-General of the Iranian National Security Council, Ali Larijani, said that the US thought it could execute a short war in Iran, and that it thought it could sow chaos by assassinating Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and other leadership, but that both of those assumptions have been proven incorrect.
He said that Iran’s leaders have warned separatist groups against moving against the government, and that Iran’s people are united in the face of the US-Israeli war.
Larijani dismissed US President Trump’s desire to choose future Iranian leadership as foolish, and reiterated the Iranian government’s position that its neighbours would not come under fire as long as they do not allow their territory to be used to attack Iran.
Air strikes target oil storage facility in Tehran
Air strikes have targeted an oil storage facility in Tehran, Iranian and Israeli media report.
Fars news agency said US and Israeli fighter jets targeted the oil depot in southern Tehran.
The IRGC said it targeted a refinery in Haifa in response to the attack.
Hezbollah says it launched missiles at Haifa naval base
Lebanon’s Hezbollah says it targeted the Israeli naval base in the city of Haifa with a barrage of missiles.
In a statement, the group said the attack was carried out at about 8:00pm local time (18:00 GMT).
>didn't disagree with saying war good
>wants to shut down TOR to expose comrades to five eyes over hurt feelings
hello rabbi
>>2725860The alternative was Clinton, Biden, and Harris: all three genocidal freaks who actively wanted to start WW3 and presided over multiple genocides with a joy in their black hearts
>>2725873>Still shilling for CUCKer and calling others ZionistsBegone, Epsteinite.
>>2725877This shit will be over in a couple weeks and everything will go back to normal, and even if it doesn’t it has no impact on Russia and China who continue to win and win by virtue of letting America destroy itself. I swear every time a missile gets launched you radlib faggots are screaming about the end of the world
>>2725866As of now? It looks like a catastrophe with no solution because there is no socialist movement yet
>>2725883There might be one had you yanks actually done something to end the genocide
>>2725879The reason why Hamas has any lick of "support" is because the Communists were btfo'd under combined Israeli+Hamas aggression
>>2725883>do nothing to save your nation because not enough people are communistsand at that rate will never be what the fuck is this line of thinking
>>2725882>even if it doesn’t it has no impact on Russia and China who continue to win and win by virtue of letting America destroy itself<complete Ziomerican domination of the Middle East has no impact on Russia or ChinaEmbarrassing post.
>>2725879>this is very standard communist lineAssuming of course you ignore all the Palestinian communists.
>>2725882>Still doing the "Trump is le based anti-imperialist!" Bit even after everything that's happened Mfs like you are worse than MIGAtards.
>>2725847Tucker is mentally ill but in the same way every capitalist shill is
>>2725882>This shit will be over in a couple weeks and everything will go back to normal, and even if it doesn’t it has no impact on Russia and China who continue to win and win by virtue of letting America destroy itself. I swear every time a missile gets launched you radlib faggots are screaming about the end of the worldI am personally hoping for a reverse Stanislav Petrov.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incidentSome commander, cut off from the liberal leadership and their bougie minded restraint, launching a MAD amount of missiles at refineries and such. from any side, really.
This cold war seems to me an unstable equilibrium. Because there are no reds fighting against capitalism itself, everyone wants to rock the boat and profit from the crises. The more crises, the more profit. But too much rocking and globalized liberalism goes to shit altogether. So my bets are on anything that brings uncertainty to the liberal plans for multipolarity.
>>2725873debate me debate me debate me
you didn't respond to my retarded snark so you lose the debate
source? source? do you have a source for that remark? debate me please
>>2725885I am not a yank, my country is much more irrelevant
>>2725886True, unfortunately many forget this history and cheer them on
>>2725889I'm not making prescriptions for (in)action, I'm saying that this is what I think is the likely outcome at hand here
>>2725891They are not a monolith, but even if we took the PFLP for example, what has the popular front done for them? Nothing, it has sank them into irrelevance and tried to marginalize them at every opportunity. Because as it turns out, bourgeois political organizations are going to undermine socialist elements in their ranks.
>>2725879If you are actually not a LeftCom then why are you arguing on their behalf based on one article you read? Bordigatard line is against national liberation in the modern world (on the basis that every nation is in the capitalist stage at this point)
>>2725904Azeris have eternally sold themselves to Turkey and pissrael
>>2725904I will be forever grateful to the Islamic Republic if it can destroy Kuwait, the UAE, and Azerbaijan.
>>2725903>They are not a monolithThere were only two Palestinian communist orgs of note, the PFLP and the DFLP. Both of them supported a coalition with Hamas and the rest of the resistance organizations. The first prerequisite for socialism in Palestine is national liberation, which is also the first prerequisite for any chance of socialism among Israelis. The settler colonial project needs to be dismantled in order for class struggle to seriously manifest itself on either side.
>>2725904Azerbaijan is weird because aren’t they Shia? But they subscribe to their dumb national Turk supremacy rather than some dumb religious supremacy
>>2725882>trump lesser-evilism from the left in 2026you are in a cult
>>2725915they were by far the muslim region most successfully secularized by the soviets. there's barely any religious people there
>>2725759>pre war estimateshow the fuck would they know?
and its just trucks with some steel frames welded on top in the first place
>>2725922>how the fuck would they know?SIGINT, HUMINT, satellite images. If there's one thing we should have learned by this point it's to not underestimate Ziomerican intelligence capabilities.
>>2725915They're "shia" in a very loose sense. In reality they're post-Soviet "cultural non-denominational muslims" where some rural folks may still follow some shia rituals, but by and large they align with sunnis (first of all Turkey) on most things
>>2725922>how the fuck would they know?probably like how they knew where and when to target ismail haniyeh in the super secure compound iran had housed him
>>2725927>they align with sunnis.Well mainly Turks because they see themselves as Turkic people, but they still have some Persian traditions left over.
>>2725920>>2725927Interesting, i remember seeing that Azeris were actually more pro-Soviet whereas Armenians were more reactionary. Although Turkish supremacy was already taking over under retarded glasnost. When that inevitably lead to nationalist conflict, the Soviet Union sided with the Azeris I think
^bait
>>2725931>>2725933The funny thing is that Azeris are literally just shia persians who adopted a turkic language after an invasion by Seljuk Turks. From what I've seen, Iranian Azeris are very loyal and well-integrated into the state (Pezeshkian and Khamenei were azeris among many others) and barely consider themselves a separate people, while Azerbaijanians got that Tvranist brainrot
>>2725932Prince of Persia - Revenge of the Failson
>>2725935Even if the Russians are providing Iran with intelligence (they probably are), the fact that neither Russia nor China seem to have any interest in providing them with air defenses or missile launchers is pretty ridiculous. Even with a relatively small investment of such weapons they could effectively guarantee Iranian victory. It's doubly shitty when you consider how Iran provided Russia with weapons to use in Ukraine.
>>2725937Retards here will reply regardless.
>>2725942>the fact that neither Russia nor China seem to have any interest in providing them with air defenses or missile launchers is pretty ridiculousat this point you have to have been told repeatedly that they were offered and iran denied help for their own reasons. i know ive told you personally at least twice
>>2725905The Bordigist line is that national liberation can only be achieved via a communist proletarian revolution, not by enlightened patriotic members of the national bourgeoisie
>Harshly, instructed by no one – not by their leaders, more Gandhian than Gandhi, nor by a “communism” in the mode of the USSR, which, as L’Unità hurried to say, rejects and condemns violence – but educated by the hard lessons of the facts of social life, blacks in California have shouted out to the world, without having the theoretical consciousness, without needing to express it in a well-developed language, but by claiming in the thick of the action the simple and terrible truth that legal and political equality is nothing as long as there is economic inequality, and that it is possible to end it, not by laws, decrees, sermons or homilies, but only by overthrowing by force the foundations of a society divided into classes.>https://libcom.org/article/black-anger-shakes-rotten-pillars-bourgeois-and-democratic-civilization-bordiga-1965 >>2725942Iran already has a lot of Russian and Chinese air defences though? Even if I agree that those two should be more proactive
>>2725939there are more azerbaijanis that live inside iran than in "azerbaijan" itself. the real azerbaijan itself is the one in iran while what is today the republic of azerbaijan was historically two regions called aran and shirvan
>>2725946I don't recall China ever saying they offered any support. Russia claims to have offered it, but I find it very hard to believe that Iran would have actually refused them, especially air defenses. I think it's more likely that the Russians told them in private that they would not provide weapons, and then publicly said that the Iranians rejected help to avoid giving the appearance of weakness or division. Why would the Iranians reject Russian AA equipment in the middle of an air war?
>>2725949Yes but they need to be consistently replaced otherwise they'll eventually be degraded to the point of uselessness. Large scale, sustained Soviet provision of such weapons to North Vietnam is part of what made that war so costly for America and ensured their defeat.
>>2725946so you're saying iran is just stupid!?
>>2725951Kind of like Mongolia and Inner Mongolia innit
>>2725955Or Israel and Brooklyn.
>>2725953>I find it very hard to believe that Iran would have actually refused them, especially air defensesthats exactly what they refused. your ex mil and watch berletic and duran no? so you know that these systems require training. iran wants domestic production not a russian kill switch for 2 years while guys get trained. merc talks all the time about iran not trusting russia because they got jerked by soviets. brian talks all the time about how things are not plug and play. and yet russia did give them murmank radar and isr. china is giving them real time satellite targeting. and both have strategic partnership and tech transfer.
you ever get tired of being wrong for six months at the start of war for the sake of balance and nuance?
>>2725955there are many places where this happens:
there are more tswana, sotho and swazi in south africa than in botswana, lesotho and eswatini
there are more tajiks in afghanistan than in tajikistan
there are more turkmen in iran and afghanistan than in turkmenistan
>>2725957kek
Or like "Israel" and the Jewish Autonomous Republic, the only trve and real jewish homeland
TOTAL KHALEEJI DEATH
>>2725961>there are more turkmen in iran and afghanistan than in turkmenistanthat one doesn't seem to be true, though it is still significant
I miss the turkmenistan schizo poster btw
only slightly related but since we're talking about the republic of baku i'm pretty sure they bribe unesco so they can register shit that they share with iran as their own culture
>>2725812Nice panty shot right there.
>>2725968ukrainian moment
>>2725965DEMOLISH RIYADH!!
>>2725965Dear commanders of the IRGC: I have it in good word that "Beast Land" is a cover site of critical strategic importance for Israel and its regional allies like Saudi Arabia.
Please send your finest missiles to this place.
>>2725942Wouldn't have Iran stated that Russia and China are refusing to help them? AFAIK the only statements Iran has made regarding those 2 countries have been pretty neutral. If they are secretly refusing them then there's no point on create a facade of unity by lying stating that it was Iran who refused, that's type of shit NATO and eurocucks do.
>>2725942Im pretty sure they did and the problem at this point is that air defenses are a bit of a meme, Patriots and all the Western stuff included
>>2725975
>Kurds are subhuman savages used as cannon fodder to further Israel's goals in the region
So just like the average right wing AmeriKKKan?
>>2725904Hasn't there been recent tension between Russia and Azerbaijan where Azeris were condemning Russia. Azeri being a holdout for Israel,Turkey and NATO as a whole will end up with that state destroyed at this rate and potentially annexed
>>2725960>iran wants domestic production not a russian kill switch for 2 years while guys get trainedThat's a ridiculous reason to reject arms from an ally. Iranian domestic weapons would inevitably require comparable training, but their production can be disrupted by American bombing while Russian production cannot. This is exactly how Vietnam was able to stay in the fight despite relentless American attacks, because the defense industrial base supplying their war effort was largely located in China and the USSR where the Americans couldn't touch it. It's also why Israel is impossible to exhaust as long as they have a blank cheque from the US. Even if the Iranians wanted to rely on domestic production in the long term, that's not a good reason to refuse outside help in the short term. They would of course have to invest time in setting up these systems, training operators, etc., but even taking that into account these efforts could still bear fruit in a longer war, which it seems they are aiming for. If they actually did reject arms from Russia then they're incredibly foolish, and are bringing unnecessary destruction on themselves.
>and yet russia did give them murmank radar and isr. china is giving them real time satellite targetingNone of that will matter if they don't have weapons to fire at the enemy.
>>2725978>Wouldn't have Iran stated that Russia and China are refusing to help them?Not necessarily, because calling them out publicly like that could alienate them further and reduce what assistance they have been willing to provide.
>>2725979I don't think thats true at all. The Israeli, US, and Gulf air defenses have been quite effective, the problem is just that they aren't being produced at scale.
>>2725954Yes. Since 2022, Russia has repeatedly signaled its readiness to form formal military alliances with Iran. Russians were proposing a clause when the treaty was being negotiate that would have obligated the parties to come to the defence of each other in case either of them is attacked. But Iran at that time demurred. That was because they wanted to put weight on the potential outreach to the United States, to resume the nuclear talks with the US and get some agreement with the US, and they thought that too close connection with Russia would not help them very much.
Iran also deliberately chose not to build its military hardware around Chinese gear seeing it as inferior. Iran still does not have any Chinese air defense systems made this century despite Indian propaganda accounts on X saying with no source saying so. An Iranian top brass even proudly told China State TV in September 2024 that Iranian forces are well trained in Western gear, shifting to advanced indigenous weapons and can handle security, no need of help from "faraway" nations.
Back in 2021, China and Iran signed a sweeping 25-year strategic cooperation agreement worth about $400 billion spanning energy, ports, finance, and even military training. It was hailed as Tehran’s pivot to the East, an exit ramp from sanctions and isolation. For a brief moment, it looked like Iran had chosen the China-Russia bloc. But the ink had barely dried before Tehran’s behavior grew erratic. Projects were shelved, port cooperation at Chabahar stalled, solar equipment was seized by the IRGC, and in a twist that felt like a deliberate snub, Iran leased the same port to India, even as India was cozying up to the U.S., had ab order skrimish with China and was preparing for confrontation with Pakistan. As India and Pakistan were on the brink of war, Iran signed a full-spectrum strategic agreement with New Delhi.
And don't forget, when it came to the Ayatollah, Pakistan offered its entire nuclear program to Iran in the 1980s but Iran rejected it, Khamanei even went so far as having a Fatwa against nuclear weapons saying it's not allowed by Islam and that Allah will be Iran's bodyguard.
>>2725991Iranians are so fucking stupid if all of this is trve. Hard to feel bad for a victim that dug its own grave several times.
>>2725992If the West manages to stamp out multipolarity and reassert their dominance, then historians will write about how they were able to do this because the counter-hegemonic nations did not behave as close allies, and did not behave as if they were in a life and death struggle. It's been clear since the fall of the Ba'athists in Syria that the biggest weakness of these countries is a lack of coordination and an integrated strategy. They far too often allow immediate national concerns to overcome their collective strategic interests.
>>2725992Its the whole iranian "not west or east" national bullshit. Iran's goverment isn't supported by a mass worker movement, sure people support the goverment, but theres no mass movement. As a result, it needs that support, specifically millitary support from aboard to win this war. But again, like everytime, nationalism is getting in the way.
Although from what ive heard they have gotten some shit from the DPRK
>>2725992They wanted to appear that they weren't choosing a side and hedge their options to work with the West. It led to inconsistency. While posturing against the U.S., Tehran kept trying to simultaneously mend ties with Washington and Europe, hoping to ease sanctions and attract Western investment. They denounced the China deal as a national sellout, as they also tried to use their anti-U.S. position as a bargaining chip with China. In effect, Iran tried to monetize its anti-Americanism while flirting with the West, a contradictory strategy that neither Washington nor Beijing found trustworthy. Remember, they had elected a soft handed liberal clown in the middle of a geopolitical knife fight, a guy who literally said he didn't understand politics and thought he can talk it out with his enemies, like his enemies haven't been gutting them for two decades straight
They've hit desalination plants and refineries in Iran. It's time to reciprocate.
>>2726003
>Remember, they had elected a soft handed liberal clown in the middle of a geopolitical knife fight, a guy who literally said he didn't understand politics and thought he can talk it out with his enemies, like his enemies haven't been gutting them for two decades straight
It is actually insane this happened. Jalali would have been superior and actually had an idea of the reality of Iran and multipolarity so would have continued Raisis policies while Pezeshkian behaves like a hipster. Raisi dying when he did literally enabled the worst faction for this time
>>2726004>>2726006At this point it unironically sounds like they'd be better off with an IRGC junta, or just anybody who will start actually governing like they're a country under existential threat. This posture would need to continue after the current war ends, and probably look something like the DPRK's Songun policy. At the very least if they don't abandon all notions of cooperation with the West and pivot hard to Russia and China (and build nuclear weapons) then they're basically suicidal.
Iran’s Larijani says US soldiers have been taken prisoner>The head of Iran’s National Security Council says that a number of US soldiers have been captured since the start of the war a week ago.>"The Americans claim that they have been killed in action. Despite their futile efforts, the truth is not something they can hide for too long," he said in a post on X.https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/live-us-and-israel-attack-iranGiga based, and this claim is most likely true since if they're saying it publicly they'll be expected to provide proof.
>>2726005They are, they hit the Haifa refinery less than an hour ago.
>>2726013>They are, they hit the Haifa refinery less than an hour ago.Nice, water is next
>>2726013If true, they'd likely be SOF. There were indications (BACN aircraft) that they were present at the start of the war but then these later disappeared.
>>2726018CENTCOM spokesman denies US soldiers captured by Iran
A spokesman from US Central Command (CENTCOM) has denied Iran has captured any US soldiers, after the head of Iran’s National Security Council said it had.
“The Iranian regime’s claims of capturing American soldiers are yet another example of its lies and deceptions,” the spokesman told Al Jazeera Arabic
>>2726020hope they get abu ghraib'd
>>2726024Well the mainstream rightoid position is that Hamas are an Iranian front
>>2726023>le both sides badok shlomo
>>2726029Average day under burgerreich hegemony
>>2726031>israel: we WILL kill and rape you next<turkey doesn't join the fight agaist israel immediately cucktinist influence reaches far
>>2726029>Is this AI Nop. I can tell by direction of cars.
>>2726035Would be nice to see some political targets get what's coming to them ngl
>>2726029Looks real, but not Tehran. Closer to link related based on the road signs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashgarak >>2726031>two retards fightingi'd love to see it.
>>2726029Looks real, and probably what you'd expect from a burning oil refinery. Keep in mind that Iran will inevitably have it far worse in terms of destruction than the Israelis, however this doesn't change the fact that the imperialist objectives are effectively impossible to achieve.
>>2726031"after iran" there will be no zionist entity
>>2726032
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>>2726031Both bitches of the West and genocide lovers. Really hope they mutually destroy each other if true.
If this drags on and IRI survives, I think Israel will be fine but US will come out of it severely weakened.
I'm wondering if it might be better for Iran to exclusively target American assets in the region. Israel will continue the fight as long as they have American backing to do so, but American backing will only continue as long as the war is not too costly for them. Defeating Israel will not defeat America, but defeating America will defeat Israel. As much as I like to see Israelis have missiles fall on them, any damage caused to the Americans will have a substantially larger impact on the outcome of the war.
>>2726040i heard mehrabad airport was hit and
there is a Lashgari expressway nearby.
>>2726024we're reaching unforeseen levels of brandonification
>>2726023Israel's actions could perhaps be boiled down to balance of power considerations, (if you ignore all the biblical aspects)
That doesn't explain the actions of the US. For that "It's the Jews" is a better explanation.
>>2726049I don't think Iran has sufficient targeting data to do that.
>>2726056>DIRECTLY intervenedStopped reading, I will not let the goalposts be moved
>>2726046The most severe weakening will happen in US allies that rely on gulfie oil/gas and aren't able to buy Russian ones, such as the EU and their east Asian allies.
It doesn't matter to them. All will be sacrificed on the altar of Israel.
>>2726054> you'll be deemed an infantile ultra radlib<by anons on an imageboard or faggot amerikkkansImagine this ever being a factor of consideration.
>>2726064What kind of wonderwaffen do you think china can give to de-escalate?
>>2726065>The most severe weakening will happen in US allies That will definitely fuck up the US too, since confidence in the dollar will hit rock bottom if europoops have to endure this schizo suicide of an economy for another three years. It's so blatant who the bad guy is in all of this as well (Pissrael and the US) and poorer people will definitely choose a political pressure valve that is Anti-US/Pissrael if this continues. You see it already with the British and the Green Party.
>>2726020The empire in decline fears humiliation most of all. That's why they somehow thought that their own air defense or the jets themselves shooting each other down was less humiliating that Iranian jets or AD doing it.
>>2726065Makes zero sense from a strategic standpoint either; East Asia and the European NATO are much stronger allies than Israel. I'm beginning to think these guys really think they're going to bring the rapture by doing this, and don't care about the future because of that.
As an aside, how is this any different than "Savage natives" practicing human sacrifice?
>NEW: 'U.S. officials provided classified briefings to Congress this week estimating that Iran still retains as much as about 50% of its ballistic missile program, and a significantly larger percentage or its drone capabilities' – New York Times
Theyre fucking lying and it's even worse if this is what theyre admitting
Israeli media: Hezbollah is shifting from defense to offense; its capabilities have not been destroyed.
The Israeli channel "i24" said that "Hezbollah is doubling down on the momentum of the attacks, and it is no longer in a defensive position, but has initiated a significant attack."
The channel's correspondent added: "We saw Hezbollah firing on Israeli forces in the border area and also dozens of shots towards settlements in the north," saying that "the party's capabilities have not been destroyed, so we see shots at short and long ranges."
The Islamic Resistance in Lebanon continues its operations against the Israeli occupation, in response to the ongoing aggression that affects dozens of Lebanese cities, towns and villages, as confirmed by its statements.
In statements published on Saturday, the Islamic Resistance confirmed that it targeted a number of strategic targets in the occupied territories, including Nahariya and Haifa, with long ranges, as it targeted the “Iron Dome” radars at the Kiryat “Elazar” site, and the Haifa naval base in the occupied city of Haifa, with a salvo of qualitative missiles, and the “Stella Maris” strategic monitoring base and the “Elta” military industries company with dive drones.
For its part, the Israeli media spoke of dozens of rockets continuing to be fired in the north, reaching Haifa and beyond. Israeli media reported the firing of heavy rockets, which caused damage, while the Israeli “Channel 13” confirmed damage in Haifa and its surroundings as a result of rockets being fired from the Lebanese side.
Earlier, the military media of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon published warnings to settlers in the settlements of “Nahariya” and “Kiryat Shmona”, demanding that they evacuate them towards the south.
The resistance had issued a warning on Friday to evacuate settlements located 5 kilometers deep from the Lebanese border line, while the Israeli occupation threatens towns and cities in Lebanon daily, forcing their inhabitants to flee.
Any updates on the Bahrain protests? I heard they brought in the vile saudis to repress the heroic bahraini patriots
>>2726074Did they actually bide their time for the right moment? Where was this Hezbollah the entire year
>>2726071the savage natives aren't bent on destroying the world for their retarded beliefs
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard strikes the Haifa refinery… This is the main target of the 27th wave of "True Promise 4"
The public relations department of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard announced that the Haifa oil refinery was hit by "Khaibar Shekan" missiles, confirming that the targeting came in response to the American-Israeli attack on the Tehran refinery.
The public relations department added that the 27th wave of Operation "True Promise 4" was successfully carried out through a joint operation with drones and missiles against American and Zionist targets.
<Targeting military sites in Haifa
She also explained that during this multi-dimensional strategic operation, Zionist military sites in Haifa, in the northern occupied territories, were precisely targeted, using the new solid-fuel “Khaibar Shakan” missiles belonging to the Aerospace Force of the Revolutionary Guard, which are characterized by their ability to be guided until the moment of impact.
It also announced that drone units successfully targeted the headquarters of the American military in the "Marina" area, located on the outskirts of the "Warner Bros." buildings in Abu Dhabi.
<Targeting American sites at sea
The statement indicated that the Revolutionary Guard's naval force bombed the Shahbad unmanned ship command unit of the Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, in addition to the American military support warehouses in Bandar Salman, on the eastern coast of Saudi Arabia.
The statement noted that the Guard's field monitoring indicates that Israel is attempting to use civilians in the northern and central regions of the occupied territories as human shields to protect its military.
The Revolutionary Guard also asserted that the situation in the region and the occupied territories has become increasingly volatile due to Iranian attacks, adding that units of the Islamic Republic's armed forces are closely monitoring American military personnel with meticulous planning and precision.
<Revolutionary Guard spokesman: The bases from which the aggression was launched have been completely destroyed.
For his part, Brigadier General Ali Mohammad Naeini, spokesman for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, confirmed that the bases from which the aggression was launched have been completely destroyed, noting that 17 naval vessels belonging to America, Israel, and their allies have been targeted so far.
Naeini continued: “The headquarters of the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet and the strategic Al Udeid base, along with the Al Dhafra, Al Jufra and Sheikh Issa bases, were subjected to heavy and repeated missile and drone attacks.”
He also noted that Israeli government and military centers were targeted, including the government complex, the army's general staff headquarters, and the Ministry of War deep inside the occupied territories.
In the same context, the spokesman for the Guard reported that vital points such as Ben Gurion Airport, Ramat David Air Base, the naval dockyard in Haifa, and the military industries complexes in Beit Shemesh and Ashdod were subjected to precise strikes.
It is worth noting that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard had previously announced the implementation of the 26th wave of Operation "True Promise 4" through a combined attack using drones and missiles, targeting sites in the occupied territories from north to south.
As he stated in a previous statement, regarding the 25th wave , he confirmed that it was carried out with drones and precise and strategic “Fatah” and “Emad” missiles, targeting the military centers and military support of the American-Israeli enemy in the region.
>>2726077tbf tankeposter
this is like comparing late stage rome with rome during its peak.
America was able to stop global communism because it was in its peak, before 1990s.
Now its the sick man of the west
>>2726060Honestly if China can't accomplish what the USSR managed to do with a fraction of the economic power then they might as well just capitulate now. It's precisely this kind of global footprint and power projection that will be necessary to overcome US imperialism.
>>2726071>Do they think this will bring The RaptureUnironically yes.
Reddit atheism didn't go far enough.
>>2726061Heavily doubt the widespread part.
They get paid extra for being a combat zone and they have more reasons to file for disability (free money for life) when they get out.
>>2726081 nta but
I think weve discovered the weakness of chinas strategy. Once you integrate yourselves with everyone, you have a lot of incentives against disturbing that integration.
>>2726083<I-I …..Didn't want them to go anyway!big lmao.
>>2726076>Where was this Hezbollah the entire yearbiding their time maybe?
>>2726081Stfu, honkoid. China nor russia today is globe spanning empire like social fascist russia. You and your whining abet imperialism.
>>2726069Makes sense honestly, think about the last few years from a euro perspective:
USA: Russia invaded Ukraine, stop buying their oil, get it from the middle east.
EU: Fair enough, it IS a war on our border, and you say this could involve us, and we trust you.
USA: You don't spend enough on your military and you don't help Ukraine enough!
EU: We've given more to Ukraine than you have, stop lying. Fine though, we'll up our military expenditures.
USA: We want Greenland! You're also one of the biggest threats to freedom!
EU: Bitch what? We've done everything you've asked for the last three years!
USA: We will be invading Iran now. This will cut off your supply of oil. Join us you freeloaders!
EU: uygha, do you think it rains oil or something?! Where are we supposed to get oil from now? Russia? The county you cussed us out for still buying some oil from less than a year ago?
All this while Israel gets everything it wants with a bow on top.
>>2726090Dengists turn into Mao and Bordiga's strongest soldiers the moment China's complacency with the current imperial world order is exposed.
>>2726067Satellites and intel
The shit they gave Pakistan
Nuclear umbrella / MAD guarantee
Economic levers
to name a few
>>2725991> Iran leased the same port to Indiaseriously?
>>2726094>>2726095What sort of wonderwaffen or critical intel can china give iran to deescalate that iran doesnt already have
>>2726103Iran, China and Russia are the axis of cuckoldry, they've let the west pedophiles ravage the world
NUKE EUROPE
NUKE AMERICA
NUKE THE ANGLOPHONES
NUKE THE FRANCOPHONES
NUKE THE WEST
NUKE THE WEST AND ITS ALLIES
HURRY UP UYGHURS NJIGEEEEEEEEEEEERS NIJGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
>>2726083isn't it crazy how this orange bitch really though he could go up to iran, kill khamenei and they'd just fold and beg for his forgiveness like venezuela
>>2726110does that hand gesture mean something in the middle east
>>2726112In the middle east? I thought it was international for stop
>>2726113is this more hezbollahkino?
>>2725975HAHAHAHHAA look at this shit, Groypoid
>>2726083 your Orange pedo king doesn't want the Kurds to die for Israel, he specifically wants YOU on the front lines.
Eat shit and die lmfaoooo
>>2726115you can bet your ass it is
yup its official
trump is just a dumber hitler
Roosevelt is rolling in his grave seeing Trump collapsing the modern american empire and the petrodollar that he helped build.
>>2726128in a way, trump is the anti roosevelt
Why does it seem like Larijani is the one running Iran?
>>2726132because he is one of the three who is? Self admittedly?
>>2726139welcome to the time of monsters
>>2726134except he's not part of the Interim Leadership Council, It's Pezeshkian, Mohseni and Arafi
>>2726138China finally stopped being cucks???
>>2726101Easy. Announce that Iran is now under China's nuclear umbrella. Xi could've prevented this with a single press conference.
>>2726142how many times has this need to be said, the Chinese are not retarded morons like the people of this thread
>>2726139Well, yeah
>>2726144You'll be fine
>>2726142have you never heard of a proxy war b4
>>2726146not to get into hysterics but several famines and a ground invasion seem likely now, if Russia or China get involved in this its probably going to be actually world war 3.
Off ramps seem more and more less likely
>>2726146>You'll be fineI can barely afford my car and my rent, and now everything is getting more expensive all over again. Kids are being murdered out there to make everything more expensive for me, and I am completely powerless to stop it. WDYM
>>2726138>>2726142that makes no fucking sense. amerimutts already targeted a school ship that was coming home from naval exercises and they're gonna let iranian flagged ships laden with chemicals through??
they're gonna interdict them or blow them up
>>2726128USA was already in geopolitical zugzwang, which is what the
>trump's incompetence did thismajority overlooks. That's what it means when your main adversary can "do nothing and win". This conflict is just the shift from quantitative to qualitative
>>2726138Are they suicidal?? Americans are gonna kill them. They've killed like a hundred fisherman rowboats and nobody has stopped them
>>2726139>the point of no returnwe passed that a long time ago
so when will this war end.
>>2726158When China tells Iran to cut it off because their economy is struggling
>>2726141oh? nvm then my bad
>>2726158If I knew I wouldn't be posting here
>>2726160If this happens I'll support free and independent East Turkestan
>>2726139yes and that's a good thing. nothing good ever came from stability
>>2726160I've heard so much shit about China's economy struggling, and yeah, it's growing nowhere near the rate it did pre COVID, but it doesn't look dire at all to me. Am I missing something?
>>2726139>anyone get the feeling things have accelerated past the point of no return and that we're all collectively fucked in the incoming escalationYea, but i've felt like this since 2008. It turbocelertated in about '22-'23.
>>2726170If someone told me that, I'd probably ask:
- Are there civilians in those mountains?
- If there aren't civilians in those mountains, do we have enough bombs to make them no longer mountains?
idk why people here always say iran will never fall because of mountains yet afghanistan is just as mountainous as iran is
>>2726143Like all honkoids, you want only to see iran and the rest of the world burn for treats because you know from experience that destabilization serves imperialism. Do you really need to be told what happens to iran if china launches the nukes?
>>2726174Ah yes, Afghanistan. Famous for both the American and Soviet withdrawals from there going swimmingly
>>2726171the cold war was not stable
>>2726173The mountains ain't the problem, it's the very large and complex network of underground tunnels filled with weapons and die hard supporters of the government below those mountains that's the problem.
>>2726173there is a lot of settlements on the rainforest side of those mountains iirc
>>2726176Iran is burning right now retard, and its happening because the supposedly counter-hegemonic powers sit on their hands while the imperialists pummel one country into the ground after another. The people serving imperialism are the ones sitting around thinking that they aren't next. BRICS countries need an equivalent to NATO or their defeat is guaranteed. The Soviet Union understood this and its the only reason why the Cold War didn't end in the 1950s.
>>2726183iran will ask for help when it feels like the danger is existential. so far they haven't
>>2726173good luck bombing mountains anon
>>2726154>Eyes of a demon godNow destroy the Asqalan oil terminal and break the apartheid wall
>>2726150Give it a couple of hours and the predominant sentiment will be
>le fizzle>>2726176>destabilization serves imperialism>destabilization serves imperialism>destabilization serves imperialism >>2726150>a ground invasion seem likely nowI don't see how you figure that. Don't get me wrong, I really really want more Americans to die, but I don't think they'd be so stupid.
>>2726190>but I don't think they'd be so stupid.we could have said the same thing before america bombed iran.
>>2726189People don't hate Saudi Arabia and the UAE enough
>>2726183>supposedly counter-hegemonic powersAgain you slight the islamic revolution and Communist China. You are zioagent of operation epstein fury. Everything you say is zionist lies.
>>2726193The IDF didn't want to take any chances with trump negotiating a deal with moderate ayatollahs, IRGC, army commanders so they killed them all.
Saudi Arabia intercepts more drones
The Saudi defence ministry says its forces have intercepted seven drones east of the capital, Riyadh, in the past hour.
The announcement came an hour after it said it had downed eight other drones that had entered the kingdom’s airspace.
As we’ve been reporting, Iranian President Masoud Pezesjkian said earlier that neighbouring countries will no longer be targeted unless an attack originates from there. But Iran was hit with attacks shortly afterwards, triggering retaliatory assaults.
>>2726191I think that's a little different. The apparent goals of this campaign are unachievable, however thus far Iran hasn't shown much of an ability to inflict the kind of casualties on the US that would compel them to stop. In theory they could keep this up for a very long time, and even when they eventually stop, they won't have suffered any permanent damage. Iran on the other hand will be significantly weakened. The Americans will probably stop eventually, but they'll be able to spin it as a negotiated withdrawal rather than a defeat. Indeed, if Iran doesn't succeed in changing the diplomatic posture of the Gulf States or at the very least obtaining nuclear weapons after this war, then I'd say they'll have won a pyrrhic victory at best. By contrast if the imperialists attempted a ground invasion it would have far greater political consequences, and would result in an inevitable and undeniable defeat with serious geopolitical repercussions.
>>2726195>Everything you say is zionist lies.Sure Anon, I'm sure the Zionists would be thrilled if Iran, China, and Russia all signed a mutual defense pact similar to NATO and actually stuck by it. I'm sure this is definitely what Washington wants. Chinese and Russian troops in Tehran would surely be hailed as a victory for the American Empire.
33 operations by the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon against the positions, bases, and deployments of the occupation "army".
On Saturday, March 7 , the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon issued 33 military statements regarding operations to counter the movements of the Israeli occupation army on the Lebanese-Palestinian border, in addition to operations targeting sites, bases, deployment of its forces and settlements in the north and depths of occupied Palestine, in response to the Israeli aggression that affected dozens of Lebanese cities and towns, including the southern suburbs of Beirut.
The following is a summary of the operations in chronological order:
1- At 10:30 PM on Friday, March 6, 2026: Resistance fighters observed four Israeli helicopters infiltrating from the Syrian direction. They landed an infantry force in the mountainous areas surrounding the towns of Yahfoufa, Khraibeh, and Maaraboun, and the force advanced towards the eastern neighborhood of the town of Nabi Sheet. At 11:30 AM, resistance fighters engaged the force with light and medium weapons near the cemetery. The Israeli forces then launched a heavy barrage of fire, including approximately 40 airstrikes, to secure the force's withdrawal. Meanwhile, resistance artillery shelled the area of the engagement and the withdrawal route.
2- At 03:45: A gathering of occupation forces in the hills of Al-Hamams and Khallat Al-Asafir on the southern outskirts of the city of Al-Khiam was targeted with a rocket salvo.
3- At 04:15: The evacuation area in the outskirts of the town of Nabi Sheet was targeted with rocket barrages.
4- At 05:30: Haifa refinery targeted by a swarm of attack drones.
5- At 06:00: Targeting a gathering of occupation soldiers on the southern outskirts of the city of Khiam with a drone strike.
6- At 06:30: A gathering of occupation soldiers was targeted at the newly established site in Tell al-Hamams, south of the city of Khiam, by a drone attack.
7- At 06:30: The “Alta” military industries company, northeast of the occupied city of Haifa, was targeted by a squadron of attack drones.
8- At 09:45: The newly established Balat site in southern Lebanon was targeted with rocket weapons.
9- At 09:45: The "Tefen" base, east of the occupied city of Acre, was targeted with a missile salvo.
10- At 12:30: A gathering of vehicles at the Fatima Gate on the Lebanese-Palestinian border in the town of Kfarkela was targeted with rocket weapons.
11- At 13:00: The headquarters of the Northern Command of the occupation army, “Dado base”, northeast of Safed, was targeted with a missile salvo.
12- At 13:15: The “Ein Zeitim” base northwest of occupied Safed was targeted with a missile salvo.
13- At 13:40: The occupied city of “Nahariya” was targeted by a squadron of attack drones as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
14- At 15:30: Targeting the "Tel Hashomer" base (the General Staff headquarters southeast of "Tel Aviv") with a qualitative missile.
15- At 15:30: The Ramla base (Home Front Command) southeast of "Tel Aviv" was targeted with a salvo of high-quality missiles.
16- At 15:30: The "Glilot" base in the suburbs of "Tel Aviv," which houses the headquarters of the military intelligence unit "8200," was targeted by a squadron of attack drones.
17- At 17:30: Targeting “Kiryat Shmona” in northern occupied Palestine with a squadron of attack drones as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
18- At 19:20: A large gathering of occupation “army” vehicles was targeted at the Hounin gate opposite the town of Markaba with a rocket salvo.
19- At 20:00: The occupied town of Nahariya was targeted with a missile salvo as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
20- At 20:00: Targeting the Iron Dome radars at the "Kiryat Elazar" site (the main air defense base in the occupied city of Haifa) with a salvo of high-quality missiles.
21- At 20:00: The "Stella Maris" maritime monitoring and control base on the northern coast was targeted with a salvo of high-quality missiles.
22- At 20:00: The Haifa naval base in the occupied city of Haifa was targeted with a barrage of high-quality missiles.
23- At 20:15: The occupied town of Nahariya was targeted with a missile salvo as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
24- At 20:40: An Israeli force that attempted to advance into the “Khanouq area” in the village of Aitaroun was targeted with artillery shells.
25- At 20:40: The “Branit” barracks, the headquarters of the “91” division in the occupation army, was targeted with a rocket salvo.
26- At 20:50: An Israeli force that attempted to advance from the "Avivim" barracks towards the plain of the village of Maroun al-Ras was targeted with artillery shells.
27- At 21:30: “Kiryat Shmona” was targeted with a rocket salvo as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
28- At 21:45: A gathering of occupation forces was targeted at the Al-Ajal hill site, north of the "Kfar Yuval" settlement, with a rocket salvo.
29- At 22:00: An Israeli force that attempted to advance towards the plain of Maroun al-Ras village was targeted for the second time with a rocket salvo.
30- At 22:40: The occupied town of Nahariya was targeted with a missile salvo as part of the warning issued by the resistance.
31- At 23:10: A gathering of occupation forces at the Fatima Gate in the town of Kfarkela was targeted with a rocket salvo.
32- At 23:15: A gathering of vehicles and soldiers of the occupation army was targeted in Khallat al-Mahafir, outside the town of Al-Adisa, with a rocket salvo.
33- At 23:25: A gathering of occupation forces at the Al-Ajal hill site, north of the "Kfar Yuval" settlement, was targeted for the second time with a rocket salvo
The Islamic Resistance confirmed that its operations come within the framework of defending the land of Lebanon and its people and in response to the ongoing Israeli aggression, stressing that its targeting targets military sites of the occupation, unlike its repeated targeting of civilians.
>>2726193I was just thinking about that, I think Israel started this war because trump would have taken Irans nuclear deal and Israel saw this as their last chance.
>>2726077>>2726061>>2726059I’m thinking we’re going to find out in a couple weeks the deaths are in the thousands, the destruction in the trillions and prolly the largest humanity crisis this world will face in till climate change kicks into full gear.
>>2726139No you're fucking stalling larper, go kill your government and quit posting here
>>2726199And I would consider your argument to be fair, if the us gov so far performed competently. But instead we've got shit like this
>>2726193 and all other forms of incompetence coming from the us gov.
Maybe they are less dumb than I think but still the incompetence is quite telling
I wanna hear more about these captured American soldiers if Larijani isn't just making shit up
>>2726199>thinks treaties and boastful words alone will halt ww3Please stop this is embarrassing
Amerimutts are governed by bourgeois pedophile mass murderers and everything bad possible in existence, and the best the mutts can do is complain online instead of starting a civil war and killing the worst thing to have ever existed in the world
>>2726211And every mutt who protests is a reformist, they're not revolutionaries and dont intend to kill their pedobourg burgerreicheu
>>2726215Every westerner not armed and engaging in coordinated insurrection right now is complicit in keeping the west stable for the raping of civilization
>>2726208Iranians should go full Abu Ghraib on their asses. Make those fuckers pay.
>>2726209Treaties and boastful words is all they have now. What I'm talking about is pooling military resources to be able to confront and defeat the Americans in a conventional conflict.
>>2726190They're already sending troops to Kuwait lol
>>2726199>yeah yeah and put all their stuff in sarcastic quotes for the press release, just like that perfectLMAO who is doing this
Violent explosion at the US embassy in Norway
Rumours for now, but appeared in my feed
>>2726224I don't see any news about it, sauce?
>>2726227Norwegian state media (NRK) reported it
"Loud bang at the US embassy in Oslo
The police have large resources at the scene at the US embassy in Oslo.
The police were notified of the incident around 1 am on Sunday.
– The police are in dialogue with the embassy, and there have been no reports of any injured people. There is currently no information about exactly what happened or who may be involved, writes Per-Ivar Iversen in the Oslo Police District in the police log."
>>2726227>>2726225Xitter/Telegram rumours for now
>>2726228Just a bang? Not a loud boom and fireball explosion? Someone could've thrown a firecracker.
I WANT DEAD WESTERNERS NOW I WANT WW3 KILL THEM ALL KILL THE WEST KILL THEM START THE NUKES FUCK THE WEEEEST
Casualty count predictions for the US? The reports from Germany seem to indicate… very high losses
Haifa getting pounded now btw. Iran likely hitting the refineries there
damn this special military operation is going badly
>>2726235Resource allocation at military hospitals is one I know of
e.g.,
>Landstuhl Regional Medical Center (the big US military hospital in Germany) paused labor & delivery services to prioritize casualties from the Iran conflict >>2726239Source for that?
>>2726241>The last rocket barrage targets water desalination and power generation centers in Netanya and Hadera>Middle East ObserverYou might get what you want anon
>>2726234I hope those reports are not only accurate but and under-estimation.
Best timing for an american armed struggle would be right now desu, while the gov is distracted with iran.
Shame it wont happen.
>>2726246they are actually going to do an invasion.
>>2726246>>2726252are you ready for americas suez canal moment
Yedioth Ahronoth: Hezbollah demonstrates extensive firepower around the clock and is deploying near the border.
In a clear acknowledgment of the capabilities of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon and the shock received by officials in the occupying entity, the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth said that Hezbollah is demonstrating extensive firepower towards the north around the clock.
She added that, "In contrast, in southern Lebanon there are a large number of incidents in which Hezbollah fires anti-tank missiles, mortars and other projectiles towards Israeli forces."
She confirmed that Hezbollah has successfully deployed its forces a few kilometers, and sometimes even less, from the houses in towns adjacent to the border fence. It also has elements even in the first line of villages in southern Lebanon, located just a few hundred meters from frontline towns, such as Khiam and Kfarkela.
She added that Hezbollah’s Radwan force is present in southern Lebanon and even on the front lines of villages.
Yedioth Ahronoth said that the Israeli army did not properly assess the level of threat, noting that the risk of the Radwan Force carrying out an incursion operation was not completely ruled out, contrary to what had been announced previously.
She stressed that "Hezbollah has continued its work throughout the past period to strengthen its capabilities, and has even prepared for this confrontation, and at the present time it is showing a considerable firepower compared to estimates that were not consistent with the reality inside Israel."
>>2726242>what's ironic is that obama's nuclear deal was incredibly asymmetrical and imperialist, iran was willing to abide by it despite it cucking them and forcing them to let the IAEA in, and trump still ripped it up anyway before its term was up because it was a "bad deal" because america had to hold up their end of the bargain by unfreezing stolen iranian assets, which trump mischaracterized as "giving away our money to iran." the imperialist doublespeak is so insane.For sure, and it really does show that Israel is driving policy decisions in the Middle East for the U.S. the U.S had the M.E on lockdown and Iran was more than willing to cut a deal with the west in exchange for a smidge of autonomy and investment.
>>2726209…? who said anything about stopping ww3?
>>2726260>israeleven more reason that place needs to be destroyed
Drone targets fuel tanks at Kuwait airport
Kuwait’s government says there’s been a drone attack on fuel tanks at the Kuwait international airport.
“Competent authorities and firefighting teams are dealing with a fire at the site,” it added in a statement on X.
>>2726156true
>>2726174but anon the US lost Afghanistan
>>2726138>Experts said>ProbablyAre they sure the experts aren't mixing up rocket fuel stuff for components used to make evil baby killer shredding machines?
People believe this shit? Insane. Nuke the US NOW.
>>2726260>Israel is the imperial capital nowI thought the big international corpos were fleeing the entity like rats from a sinking vessel?
iran is losing badly and after they fall the resistance against zionism will also utterly collapse, the zionists will implement greater israel, a plan which necessarily requires a genocide on par in both scope and scale with GP Ost.
you, as an american citizen, are literally the only people on earth who can stop this, because the Zionist entity is nothing more than an arm of US imperialism. without the US, the Zionists would collapse by the end of the week.
what are you going to do about this?
if the answer is "nothing", then you are not and never will be a leftist.
>>2726281>iran is losing badlysource on this?
>>2726279Yeah it would make zero sense for Israel to become the new nerve centre of the US empire. It's for all intents and purposes a frontier base. It would be less like the Romans moving their capital to Ravena and more like moving it to London.
>>2726281I'm monitoring the situation.
>>2726282objective reality.
Does anyone seriously believe only 6 golems have fallen in combat so far? Seems a little far fetched to me.
>>2726274Check the previous thread it was posted with screencaps. Or just look it up; first result was 400 Wisconsin National Guardsmen to be deployed to the Middle East.
>>2726281>you, as an american citizen, are literally the only people on earth who can stop this, because the Zionist entity is nothing more than an arm of US imperialism. without the US, the Zionists would collapse by the end of the week. >what are you going to do about this? <Why aren't you doing a heckin terrorism!? Fuck off fed.
>>2726289do you believe iran's claim they killed 500 amerimutts?
https://xcancel.com/AryJeayRegarding the new leader for Iran:>>Iran’s Farsnews says the Assembly of Experts agrees a new Leader must be finalized, but they disagree on how to announce it:>>• Majority of the representatives say the review is already done, so the secretariat can just announce the new leader without another in-person vote.>>• Some others say there should still be a formal in-person session and vote before announcing it.>>The main reason for the delay is security concerns.So the IRGC has chosen a leader and also identified the Mossad moles:
<Some others say there should still be a formal in-person session >>2726289They would only be able to deny it for so long, eventually they would need to offer an explanation for why these soldiers aren't coming home. 6 seems pretty low but it's theoretically possible if they have enough warning about Iranian attacks and bunkers that can withstand them.
>>2726293*Islamic Republic, not IRGC
>>2726291> Or just look it up; first result was 400 Wisconsin National Guardsmen to be deployed to the Middle East. suez canal moment…
>>2726292One thing i dont get is that the israeli's are claiming over a thousand civillans were injured but only like 3 died
>>27262896 seems a little high, I’d believe 0.2 deaths haha just kidding :)
>>2726289>Does anyone seriously believe only 6 golems have fallen in combat so far? Seems a little far fetched to me.It's surprising what creatures you can keep alive if gotten aid fast enough.
Barzanis Peshmerga are shooting down drones with AKs and so on. silly shit.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2030435639221518578>>2726214maybe. they call the US the great satan and they really have to be fighting like that's what they are up against
>>2726260The Eastern Roman Empire continued until 1922.
Gas prices for Americans are about to skyrocket lmao. But Trump’s approval rating will still probably go up since Americans are bloodthirsty lunatics that love war.
USAnians aren't even doing their usual twerking protests
>>2726326>But Trump’s approval rating will still probably go up since Americans are bloodthirsty lunatics that love war.The majority of Americans are already opposed to it and this number will only increase as the war drags on. This is especially the case if oil prices continue to rise.
>>2726325>I heard Kurdish Basij have defected and are marching on Tehran!Once they rendezvous with the Arak Soviet, the Islamic Republic is finished
>>2726290The decapitation of their entire government, the systematic destruction of their infrastructure, and the ruthless hunting of Iranian TELs to such an extent they can barely manage single ballistic launches anymore, 90% of which have been intercepted.
Iran can do nothing to hurt the US or Zionists in any tangible sense, while they strike Iran with absolute impunity and are only strengthening their attacks as time goes on, and as Iran's weaken.
>>2726291The Palestinian resistance has begged you to open a second front since the genocide of Gaza began. You have not only refused, but accused everyone who favors actual action over doing nothing of being a fed.
I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but I don't think you are capable of shame.
>>2726338>The decapitation of their entire governmentWell that's not just true
>>2726045turkey would just roll over and take it. they're massive pussies and Erdogan would never dare to actually do anything to israel
>>2726338I wonder who could be behind this post.
>>2726338>The decapitation of their entire governmentWhich accomplished what?
>the systematic destruction of their infrastructureWhen has terror bombing ever toppled a government
>and the ruthless hunting of Iranian TELs to such an extent they can barely manage single ballistic launches anymoreEven US military sources only claimed in a report today that they had been reduced to 50%, and that's most likely an exaggeration.
>90% of which have been interceptedBy air defense munitions that are being rapidly depleted, are very difficult to replace, and are operating with fewer and fewer radars to guide them.
It's obvious that the imperialists can strike Iran more forcefully and lethally than Iran can retaliate, but this doesn't mean they're losing. The Islamic Republic is winning as long as it remains intact and continues to fight. This is exactly how North Vietnam defeated America.
>>2726344>Hello fellow communists! Did you know Iran is totally losing and Western military supremacy is insurmountable? You guys should go to terrorism about itGlows like the sun.
>>2725729>declining tfrsas intended by the elites. Plebs reproducing would only mean competition to the children of the elites. Pleb women are only there to serve elite men. Pleb men are only alive to slave away as canon fodder or goon fodder for the elites
>>2726029:(
this country is fucked man. All out civil war is becoming a reality. Even china won't help the iranians and would simply buy oil from the saudis
>>2726352Hezbollah's participation is actually critical since their rockets are even cheaper and easier to make than the long range stuff the Iranians are using. A lot of it is stuff like BM-21 Grad rockets or even homemade, yet it still requires the Israelis to fire multi-million dollar interceptors to stop them. Every air defense missile used to shoot down some Hezbollah bottle rocket is one that can't be used to shoot down an Iranian missile with a 1500kg payload.
>>2726260>In the new, Israel-led version of the empire, West Asia is the crown jewel.How the fuck is Israel, the totally financially and militarily dependent tapeworm in the relationship is going to run anything or solve the "anglo-blobs" contradictions? Washington might have a zionist bomb strapped to their chests with Israel, but it's a bomb they chose and keep choosing. The all the power is still in Washington, even while the that power is waning.
>>2726338The USA/NATO is burning current and future profit with every day that this conflict lasts. It may yet be worth it, if Iran is neutralized and the USA/NATO come out with a stronger monopoly position on hidrocarbons. But anything less, they are just speeding up the decay of US hegemony.
Bear in mind that, absent an anticapitalist faction, all this "cold war" shit still needs to end up with profits going up. Otherwise,international capital could side against perpetuating US hegemony, if that brings greater prospects to them. Diversifying, one may say.
>>2726356>It may yet be worth it, if Iran is neutralized and the USA/NATO come out with a stronger monopoly position on hidrocarbons.Even the most optimistic scenario for US/Israel is a failed state in Iran. Everybody in Washington has realized that regime change and return to 80s with Iranian puppet shipping off natural resource is off the table. For Israel it's probably all the same if there is a puppet in Teheran or Teheran gets nuked and the country collapses into 1000 different kurdish, shia and Isis caliphates.
>>2726338Consider killing yourself, porky parasite
>>2726345Also iranians can replace alot of their tels in wartime conditions
>>2726356The USA/NATO is making money hand over fist because the only real manufacturing that America has is weapons, which has been vastly increased across the board and is only going to go up for at least the next decade.
America already controls 50% of the world's oil and is squeezing China out of the market, but China cannot do anything about this because they are Capitalists who have abandoned internationalism and so have neither the will nor the ability to fight back.
>>2726363stinky rotten bait
>>2726363>USA is making money by wasting resources on weaponsWhat GDP graph masturbation sessions do to a mf
>>2726353>Hezbollah's participation is actually critical since their rockets are even cheaper and easier to make than the long range stuff the Iranians are using. A lot of it is stuff like BM-21 Grad rockets or even homemade, yet it still requires the Israelis to fire multi-million dollar interceptors to stop them. Every air defense missile used to shoot down some Hezbollah bottle rocket is one that can't be used to shoot down an Iranian missile with a 1500kg payload.Also much closer, when IRCG destroys raidars Hez can get serious hits in on infrastructure such as industry.
>>2726137"You wanted war. Come forward. We are the masters of war."
"we are in the field-" then it cuts off to the guy talking. He basically said, we're masters and we have the crown on top of our head.
>>2726368>Hamas begged the amerilards to do armed struggle When did they do that?
>>2726345>Which accomplished what?The degradation of C4I capabilities to such an extent that they are no longer extant.
>When has terror bombing ever toppled a governmentThis isn't terror bombing, it's the exact opposite, they have intentionally been targeting the actual, physical structures that make up the government and allow it to enforce it's rule such as police, intelligence, and IRGC facilities. The goal is to destroy the physical means of control of the Islamic regime.
>Even US military sources only claimed in a report today that they had been reduced to 50%, and that's most likely an exaggeration.Yet Iran can barely manage single missile launches at Israel, most of which are still easily intercepted.
>By air defense munitions that are being rapidly depleted, are very difficult to replace, and are operating with fewer and fewer radars to guide them.And yet, the Israeli air defense network has yet to be cracked in any meaningful sense. You have no idea how many interceptors Israel still has, and neither do I. The only one who knows is Mossad, who has, coincidentally, totally infiltrated Iranian society.
If Iran actually depletes Israeli's ABM network and Iran scores any significant hits (By this I mean hits which cause the actual degradation of Israeli military capabilities) I will do a cum tribute to the Ayatollah.
>>2726366The people who profit from increases in GDP are the same people who control the government, you know.
>>2726353The missile defense systems used to intercept shitty Katyushas and Iranian Ballistics are not the same.
>>2726368As did noted Feds, the PFLP.
The harsh truths that none of you want to recognize is that A) Palestine is a lost cause and B) Your inaction is the reason why
>>2726376Nobody cares, shut up.
>>2726377Literally millions, if not billions, of people care, but since they're not white Americans you don't even consider them human. This is why you sit on your hands as they beg for help and die like dogs. This is why you will continue to do nothing as they are ruthlessly exterminated to make way for "Greater Israel"
>>2726374>The degradation of C4I capabilities to such an extent that they are no longer extant. If that were true Iran wouldn't still be retaliating, but they are. Today they struck Israel, Iraq, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.
>This isn't terror bombing, it's the exact opposite, they have intentionally been targeting the actual, physical structures that make up the government and allow it to enforce it's rule such as police, intelligence, and IRGC facilities.And what, you think nobody ever did this in any other bombing campaign? The US dropped more bombs on North Vietnam than were dropped by all sides in WW2. Do you think they didn't target infrastructure?
>Yet Iran can barely manage single missile launches at Israel, most of which are still easily intercepted.So it's your belief that the American military is actually underreporting its success? What you're saying is also clearly not true because they struck Israel, the Gulf States and US targets in Iraq several times today.
https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel-trump-03-07-2026>You have no idea how many interceptors Israel still has, and neither do INo, but we know that the Iranians have more missiles and drones than the imperialists have interceptors, and that they can produce them at a faster rate.
>The only one who knows is Mossad, who has, coincidentally, totally infiltrated Iranian society.And yet they apparently didn't know that Iran wouldn't collapse from bombing.
>>2726383I think that would be a mistake. Iran is not at war with the Gulf States, the value of their attacks is in showing the Gulf Arabs that their relationship with the US is more trouble than it's worth, but this only works if the damage caused is low enough that they can accept reconciliation with Iran afterwards. If the attacks are too destructive it could just lead them to double down on their alliance with the US out of anger.
>>2726338>reddit spacing >blatant Glowfag talking points <The Palestinian resistance has begged you to open a second front since the genocide of Gaza began What the fuck are you on about? Do you think a nation is some great human giant or that this is a cartoon? Who do you mean 'You'. I've not been on this site in 2 years you schizo. You're can't even be an actual fed, you're a bloody bot, or an NPC, doesn't really matter which,
>I don't think you are capable of shame.Right back at you clanker.
>>2726380You rightfully tell amerishits that their inaction is getting millions of people killed in the third world and in socialist projects and they call you a fed lmao.
You dont get it fed, there is no praxis other than reading books and doing nothing.
boots on the ground status
>>2726352why do they always target that stupid useless settlement of kiryat shmona instead of places like haifa or acre
>>2726383if they were smart they'd pull the trigger
>>2726390From the US president’s comments to reporters on board Air Force One.
When asked what he wants from Iran, he said he wants “unconditional surrender”. “It’s where they cry uncle or when they can’t fight any longer,” he said. “So, it’s if they surrender, or if there is nobody around to surrender but they’re rendered useless in terms of military.”
Trump said he has had no indication whatsoever that Russia was supporting Iran.
When asked about the lack of traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, Trump said that was the choice of the ships. “We have cleared it out. We’ve wiped out their navy,” he said.
Trump said he expects oil prices to come down very fast and that the US has a “tremendous amount” of oil.
When asked about the prospect of the US sending in ground troops, he said he did not want to talk about it and that the question was inappropriate.
>>2726383>Taking out 90% of Dubai's water supply would cause a huge humanitarian crisis though.good thing nobody gives a shit about those nowadays
>>2726392this seems smarter than a general ground invasion, i guess
>>2726395like 70% of their population are foreign workers anyway, they'd just fly home
>>2726394>When asked about the prospect of the US sending in ground troops, he said he did not want to talk about it and that the question was inappropriate.hmm
>>2726397>they'd just fly homeThey're not allowed to leave lmao, they're basically slaves. The Emiratis would drink their blood to survive before letting them leave.
>>2726397Yeah, and most likely leave all the slaves to die.
>>2726385they should demand the US cease using any territories in the gulf for attacks within a week and if they do not they will end every desalination plant in range
>>2726394>Why aren't you going through the strait? Iran has no more ships?what a fucking idiot
>>2726397let's see how much the stupid arab expats sucking off mbz like it when all the remaining water supply is redirected to serve emiratis and europeans expats first
>>2726403Trump is just a deranged psycho at this point. Turns out all those people that said he was Literally Hitler were right.
>>2726404Btw, why does Dubai cater so much to Euro millionaire expats who are being "sUfFoCaTeD bY tAxEs" anyway?? If they tax them next to nothing they really aren't getting much out of the bargain.
Trump is just hitler if he was retarded
>>2726399Emiratis do not feel responsible for the foreign workers wellbeing. as soon as they stop working and become a liability they'll get shipped off, India themselves will step in with the money to make it happen if needs be
>>2726376>>2726380>millions, if not billions, of people care, but since they're not white Americans you don't even consider them human What the fuck does that even mean lmao. You act like it's the 1960s and we can all just do a Black Panther… except Black Panthers were a group specifically for African-Americans and the CIA and FBI assassinated their leaders, bombed their homes, ghettofied the country, ran drugs into the country and so on.
There is literally nothing the average layman can do to stop the actions of a rich country across the sea from doing. All the protests of the 70s didn't stop the Vietnam War from starting or going, or any other unpopular war. After the 60s COINTELPRO was used quite effectively and the internet and global mass-surveillance by the NSA has made this even easier. Add to that the now-self-perpetuating idpol ideologues and you have a divided proletariat with no class consciousness.
If by some small chance you aren't a fed, read a fucking book; Read Lenin, Read Parenti and Marx.
>>2726408>>2726412sorry. didn't mean to link to your post
>>2726411im sorry anon but I rather prefer my delusional fantasy that westoids are bad instead of accepting that the world is more nuanced than that
>>2726396It seems unbelievably foolhardy to me, why risk it? Iran has no nukes and is not close to nukes. It does not help the war effort in anyway and risks an incident with casualties or capture of special forces.
Maybe it's an attempt to have a mission accomplished moment to sell as a victory?
>>2726415>Maybe it's an attempt to have a mission accomplished moment to sell as a victory?of course it is. drumpf loves flashy ooga booga he-man shit like that
>>2726415>Maybe it's an attempt to have a mission accomplished moment to sell as a victory?probably this. Or trump and his group is genuinely retarded enough to believe that the spec ops could do it.
Ive reached the point where i cant tell
>>2726414SOME westoids are bad, not all. I'll give TWists that. The thing that pisses me off the most about third worldists is the "poverty cult" thing. These mfs look at the whole "socialism will make us live in an uninsulated wooden shack with three other people who you have to share your toothbrushes with" bs and go "b-based?!"
another US soldier dead in Kuwait
It's gonna be so fucking hilarious when Tucker Carlson, a right wing podcaster, ends up doing more for Palestine and against Israel then the entirety of the useless leftoid movement because he knows how to play his cards the right way and play the long game.
>>2726423it's going to be hilarious when tucker does nothing and changes tune in 5 years as he always does and you have to eat crow.
oh wait you'll just move and never admit being a tucker shill or just turned into neo-maga
>>2726423Pretty sure a lot of the evil leftoid movement you despised have brought on much more awareness to the Palestine conflict and your nazi grifter idol is leeching off of thazt
>>2726422Is this the ex-NYPD who died of a "medical issue"?
https://john-henry.neocities.org/gi-movementThe Silence is Not Peace; The Lack of a GI Movement in the US
Written by John Henry
The silence is not peace, nor is it acceptence, nor resignation. It is the vacuum seal of a pressure cooker. Iran has been struck and it has struck back. The Ayatollah is dead. Missiles arc over the Middle East like scythes. In Europe, Argentina, Austrialia and other 'western' countires, the streets are on fire with riot and protest. In the United States, dissenters are being collected—not in mass internments, but quietly, efficiently, on phony charges that dissolve into the algorithmic fog. The state has actively used the police, the surveillance apparatus, and other means to repress dissenters and silence critical voices. Lawfare, kidnappings, and the surveillance state keep our best organizers compressed, paranoid, and less effective. They are forced to operate within rhetorical gaps and permitted moves in a saloon poker game where the dealer's gun always prevents victory.
Polymarket ticks quietly upward: 20 percent odds a nuclear weapon is used before 2027. But real ones know that small things like this are soft disclosure that the use of a "tactical" nuclear weapon is already priced in. The fact that the polymarket put the odds out there, that the question can be asked publicly, that the Overton Window has slid open just enough to let that specific smoke out—this tells us that someone, somewhere, has already put out the word. The fire is already burning. The scenario is already written.
“Nobody wants a nuclear war, nobody wants a nuclear Israel [he obviously meant Iran], but nobody wants an endless war.”
Chuck Schumer
The middle part isn’t really relevant here, the statement “nobody wants a nuclear war…but nobody wants an endless war” seems revealing with regards to what is on the table.
The President at a desk. The Oval Office. He looks old. He looks like someone who just realized the thing he authorized actually happened.
"…necessary action to protect American lives and interests. The Iranian regime has been a state sponsor of terror for decades. They have murdered American soldiers. They have destabilized the entire region. We could not allow them to acquire the capability to…"
He stops. Looks down at his hands. For a moment, he looks like he might stop. Then he continues reading.
"develop nuclear weapons…"
@polymarket – [UPDATE] – Market: Nuclear weapon used before 2027
"Market resolved to YES. Settlement price: $1.00. 12,344 traders will receive payouts."
The underlying assumption of the past seventy years, Mutually Assured Destruction, is now believed to be off the table, by the decision making class. Iran does not have nuclear weapons, and it is of their belief, that a single nuclear weapon will not result in retaliation strikes from other nuclear powers, ergo MAD is not on the table, this is the line of logic those with the power to launch those weapons are operating under. We are dealing with the United States—the sole nation in human history to have deployed a nuclear weapon against another sovereign people. That is not a historical footnote; it is a behavioral fingerprint. It establishes a precedent of willingness that no treaty, no norm, no abstract theory of deterrence can fully erase.
Compounding this is the religious fanaticism that infects the decision-making corridors of both Washington and Tel Aviv. On one side, you have the evangelical substructure of the American empire—rapture prophecies demanding a final confrontation in the Middle East to usher in the end times. On the other, you have a Zionist project increasingly framed in messianic terms, where territorial expansion is divinely mandated and the "Samson Option" hovers not as a deterrent, but proof of a true lack of long term vision, and a suicide pact with the shock troopers for imperialism in the Middle East. When you combine a state with a proven track record of use with actors who believe they are fulfilling prophecy, the concept of "restraint" becomes a luxury of the secular.
The material conditions further narrow the path of non-use. The United States cannot put boots on the ground. You cannot rule a country of 85 million with airstrikes. You cannot effect regime change from 30,000 feet. The century of projecting power has collapsed under the weight of its own logistics, the hollowing out of manufacturing, the simple arithmetic of imperial overreach. When the B-2s have returned to Whiteman, when the Tomahawk magazines are empty, and the target still breathes, the imperialist class begins to reach for the last option left on the memo. The tactical nuclear weapon becomes the "Hail Mary." It is the play you call when you have exhausted every other, when your defense is spent. The dog has caught the mail truck, and it has no idea what to do now it's teeth are biting metal.
The footage, when it comes, will be a test of the spectacle's tensile strength. We have already seen the absolute horror emerge from Gaza. We have watched the pulverized architecture of human life, the children extracted from rubble like debris, the hospital bombings, the attacks on breadlines. And we have watched it get absorbed into hyper-normality. The sheer volume of carnage has normalized the abnormal; it registers now as background radiation, a low hum of atrocity that no longer disrupts the daily churn. The system is remarkably efficient at processing horror. It converts it into memes, into streamer drama, into psychic white noise.
Combine this with the algorithmic control now consolidated over every major platform, the new control over TikTok. Videos of a flattened Tehran would be flagged for "graphic content," deprioritized, buried beneath a thousand cat videos and dance challenges. The memetic irony poisoning of a generation means that even the most visceral image is met with a sarcastic comment, a disbelief in its authenticity, a cynical shrug. The shattering of the spectacle may not occur, because the spectacle has built redundancies. It has prepared us to not believe our own eyes.
And yet. The sheer, primordial horror of a nuclear weapon possesses a quality that may overwhelm even the most sophisticated propaganda apparatus. There is a threshold of suffering beyond which the algorithm cannot mediate.
"Tactical nuke", "tact-nuke". The Call of Duty language here, the use of the word "tactical" is such a linguistic obscenity, a bureaucratic euphemism designed to render the unthinkable thinkable. There is nothing tactical about a nuclear weapon, and it would behoove anyone whom feels the need to pontificate on the glory of the usage of one, should read the Japanese accounts, and remember that, MAD is still absolutely on the table in a world with such few rational actors.
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>>2726423The people who seem to be putting up the most fight for Palestine in the first world is the Italians, Britons, and Irish, yet you have a special place in your heart for Tucker. Curious!
>>2726427We must move past indecision to action. We must find new ways to speak for peace in Vietnam and justice throughout the developing world—a world that borders on our doors. If we do not act we shall surely be dragged down the long dark and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight.
—Martin Luther King Jr., Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence, 1967
So then, what can we do to stop this madness? There is a marked lack of anti-war protests happening in the US right now. Materially, I believe there are three reasons for this.
1) The state has actively been using the police, ICE, and other means to repress dissenters and silence critical voices. Lawfare, kidnappings, and the surveillance state keep our best organizers compressed, paranoid, and less effective. They are forced to operate within rhetorical gaps and permitted moves, all within a framework that is designed to prevent victory. Essentially, we are playing poker, but our opponent has a gun to our stomach under the table. We are forced to play, knowing we cannot win—if we try, we’ll be shot; if we fold too many hands, we’ll lose and be shot. So we must keep playing until we find the opportunity to escape the bullet. Large protests have occurred for Palestine—100,000 marched in D.C. in 2024—but the lack of tangible effect has led to fewer of these actions. The most critical organizers are either dead, in jail, bogged down dealing with ICE, or have begun to see the ineffectiveness of mass street protests.
2) With unions representing less than 15% of the total working population, and an economic system that is debt-based and increasingly less labor-focused—due to the AI bubble and extreme financialization—the conditions for a mass work stoppage are dire. The unions that do exist, often backed by the state, tend to be less than anti-imperialist. These modern unions are not the ghost of the IWW. Calling for a nationwide general strike in response to a war that seemingly had little "run-up"—meaning little propaganda priming or consent manufacturing—seems impossible within the limited window of time available.
3) The dogmatic, insular views of the left have made it incapable, or perhaps unwilling, to deal with the realpolitik involved in organizing a GI movement that can operate within the material conditions of a settler-state-imperialist army. Essentially, if there are dissenting soldiers, they have no outside movement to latch onto. Given the economic systems engineered by the capitalist, there will always be a segment of military members, veterans, and those connected to that world who can and should be propagandized. Yet, I do not believe the left has the stomach to do this work.
Lenin stated, "Whoever expects a ‘pure’ social revolution will never live to see it." Currently, the left primarily exists online, within spectacle systems designed to control psychic engagement with true reality. From this vantage point, the left simply does not view the military in a way that would allow for its organization. How can you create a movement where the military can consciously object, if you believe that those within the ranks are fundamentally evil for being in a position to object? Regardless of one's moral views of those people, organizing them is a key to unlocking strong anti-imperialist progress.
But again, there is a total lack of ability to even answer the national question, or to provide a framework for a vision of what these men and women could "fight" for instead. There is a growing leftist veterans movement, but it is nascent and potentially heavily disorganized. Many on the left with a military background view it as a black mark. Those capable of strategizing a modern GI movement are often the last people to speak on these topics, due to their background and the perceived moralistic views of their comrades. This is politically catastrophic. It means that when a soldier begins to doubt the war, there is no welcoming structure, no political home, no vision, no public, no "America" to defect to. The lack of a draft further complicates things.
Therefore, even if the war is deeply unpopular in the ranks, the choice is between following orders or facing military courts, potentially summary executions, and life sentences. Those in a position to object will not. If the conditions were different—the creation of a strong socialist vision for the future, combined with assurances of a role within that vision, and a strong public outcry that aligns with the desire to object—then the potential for executions and life sentences would lower (due to public relations pressure), which would then increase the potential for objection to the war.
This is a clear example of the hegemonic forces of US imperialism deciding both sides of the opposing forces allowed to propagate within the spectacle of discourse. In the dominant narrative, soldiers are individuals; they made a choice. They are either heroes or villains, veterans or war criminals, sons or sons of bitches. In every allotted selection of dialogue, the narrative thread is woven: these are individuals, and they made a choice. Yet we, as socialists, know that systems are what move history, not individuals. The moralistic framework toward organizing within, around, and toward the ranks maintains the hyper-individualism of capitalist alienation. This allowed dissent actually reinforces imperialism. If the opposition says soldiers are evil and deserve to die, then the imperialist has an even easier time painting the hero narrative within the ranks and for those who support the war effort.
The centering of the individual reinforces the cultural hegemony within capitalism—the idea that the individual is ultimately responsible for the outcomes of capitalism. Neoliberalism continues to shock and jolt the mind's eye. Therefore, we must remember the systems of imperialism, the systems of birth-place RNG, the decades of propaganda, and the fundamentally Marxist understanding of how the capitalist uses "common sense" to maintain control. Those within the ranks are, in their essence, proletarians who have been acted upon by these systems.
Therefore, the lack of a vision-narrative and counter-hegemony to compete with those systems of "common sense"—the fault of the lack of a true anti-imperialist GI movement—falls not upon the individual soldier for joining, but on those systems as applied to a group of proletarians. This means that yes, there are those who have committed terrible crimes in the name of the United States. But even if we assume the best possible case—that the moral "wrong" of joining imperialist forces is seen as morally "good"—it is the psychic warfare waged by hegemonic systems (jets flying at football games, 3 Doors Down songs) that planted this belief of "right and wrong" within the proletarian. The inability of the left to craft the narrative-vision means that "common sense" becomes all-encompassing. Within the framework of the "saloon poker game," the only hand allowed to be played is the nihilistic, individualist perspective of moralism. This framework reinforces the imperialist's individualist narrative and removes system analysis.
If we are to win, we must begin to draw new hands. This is why active socialist organizations and thinkers should attempt to build that vision-narrative, in conjunction with an actual GI movement, even if it means stomaching the moral impurity of the individual as affected by the systems of the capitalist. It means crafting narratives, discussing alternatives, understanding the economic reasons, and learning from the past—all while understanding that the fundamental lack of a draft fundamentally restructures how our approach should be taken.
Assume we only need to win over 10–15% of the force to slow the war to a crawl and prevent more casualties. Regardless of the often-cited statistics about the more middle-class background of the overarching military, there are no doubt many working-class people from impoverished backgrounds who felt this was the only choice left. You would only need to win over some of these men and women, in addition to those who can be swayed by that vision of a better means to serve, in order to achieve that 10–15%.
The means of propaganda, the means of psychic engagement, the purity moralistic views, and the lack of a serious desire to engage in realpolitik—meaning engage with military members despite their moralistic failings—must be overcome. In the long term, this engagement provides a stronger potential for actual anti-imperialist progress than short-term shame-based tactics and fatalistic engagement. Though no doubt some level of shame will be involved, the overarching memetic sphere already provides plenty of that. Wojak edits of dead soldiers will surely dissuade some recruits. But we—the organizer, the activist, the revolutionary, the activated left—do not need to engage with that in any real way. It would be best not to internalize the viewpoint that what gets the most Twitter engagement will be the best agitprop organizational strategy, lest we fall into the same trap as our enemy.
They have always taught and trained you to believe it to be your patriotic duty to go to war and to have yourselves slaughtered at their command. But in all the history of the world you, the people, have never had a voice in declaring war, and strange as it certainly appears, no war by any nation in any age has ever been declared by the people.
Eugene V. Debs
There is a strain of thought that anti-imperialists should attempt to capture, within the U.S., the robust tradition of isolationism. Most Americans understand what isolationism means; most Americans do not understand what anti-imperialism means. If someone used the framework of isolationism and American-centered politics in order to convince people to not support the war effort, is this incorrect because the person in question did not explain things by way of unequal exchange or by the correct "terms"? If the same conclusion is reached—i.e., less support for the war effort—does using the isolationist frame foreclose future radicalization, or does it create an on-ramp?
Anti-imperialism is often stuck in a moralist position, and we know that proletariats are limited in their choices. Structural determinism and other factors within the superstructure (which is crafted to create said conditions) mean that some level of people within the U.S. will join the military, and they will probably never see your epic "AMERICA NEEDS TO BE NUKED NOW" comments on Twitter. No, they will engage with the superstructure's hegemony: they are heroes, the war is noble, this is what real community service looks like, this is how you make sure you and your family can have a good life.
In a Gramscian sense, the construction of the moral policing that the left relies on to dissuade recruits from joining is, at best, incredibly ineffective at its stated goals—being to end the war effort and the economics that drive it. The reason we cannot engage in these levels of realpolitik is because we are so stuck on politics as moral compass, politics as personality, politics as something you are, and our own strategy of using moralistic shaming to prevent recruitment. This is why there is no GI movement: because the allowed opposition which has been cultivated forbids it.
There is also a network effect of this moralistic approach to shame tactics as a means to lower recruitment rates (which, these shame tactics would exist memetically, without the left's need to adopt them as principle). Anyone who exists within the hegemonic thinking, the "common sense" of the empire, will seldom be swayed by shame-based appeals: "You're a monster if you joined, you deserve to die in war if you signed up" (which, again, would exist memetically due to the "allowed opposition" within the hegemony). Anyone who has a friend or an uncle or knows someone who is in the military might be alienated from this approach; they might also be ashamed of their person within the ranks. But this shame is not actionable. It does not get the mother to call her son: "You should object. I've seen the footage of the drone strikes on schools. I'll support you no matter what they do when you say no."
Actionable material considerations are the key to strong propaganda work. Shame creates paralysis; paralysis is an acceptable choice within the hegemony, and ergo it is ineffective as an organizational tool.
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>>2726408I guess the spemd money on goods and services these gulf nations, also theyve been trying to diversufy their economies away from oil, so tourism and expatting brings them wealth and keeps them relevant
>>2726422anotha crakkka down ugotfw
>>2726408investment, contributes to their image of being an elite hub, connections with rich&powerful foreigners to leverage all their money, influence, etc
>>2726421nobody cares, shut up.
>>2726372thanks. i thought it mentioned iran
>>2726421they need dengism
>>2726443>their conversationlmao. how does yankees have such bad opsec/comms?
Mickey Mouse Army
>>2726411The vast majority of US/Israeli arms are made by single-source contractors who could be destroyed with a single attack and you say that the Proletariat could do nothing?
Literally one truck bomb to the single, solitary factory that makes Patriot PAC-3 interceptors would end this war.
the iranian president apologized to gulf countries for the strikes
>>2726447>vast majorityFactory status?
Saudi forces intercept three more drones near Riyadh
The Saudi Ministry of Defence says it has foiled another attack by downing three more drones near Riyadh.
This comes hours after the ministry announced thwarting a drone attack on Riyadh’s diplomatic quarter and reported shooting down at least 15 other drones.
China’s Wang Yi says US-Israel war on Iran ‘should never have happened’
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has said that the ongoing US-Israeli military offensive against Iran should “never have happened” and called for an “immediate” end to hostilities as well as a return to the negotiating table.
Wang Yi made the comment during a news conference in Beijing during which he also said that force “will never resolve” the ongoing crisis.
“A strong fist does not mean strong reason. The world cannot return to the law of the jungle,” he said.
Wang also said that he believes there is no popular support for regime change in Iran.
Kuwait downs three missiles as firefighters combat two blazes
Kuwait says its air defences have intercepted and destroyed three ballistic missiles a short while ago.
It also said firefighters are trying to control and put out two blazes after drone attacks on the fuel tanks at the Kuwait international airport and the main building of its Public Institution for Social Security.
>>2726447>blow up one (1) factory>US empire immediately surrenders because it's impossible to repair apparently>>2726451>Wang Yi made the comment during a news conference in Beijing during which he also said that force “will never resolve” the ongoing crisisWild how he can say this and the same mfs who will (correctly) seethe about fence sitting and both-sidesism on here will defend it.
>>2726447nobody cares. you are one note and this thread is not about that. pipe-down.
The Islamic Resistance in Iraq: We carried out 24 operations against enemy bases
The Islamic Resistance in Iraq announced at midnight between Saturday and Sunday that its fighters had carried out 24 operations during the past 24 hours, "targeting enemy bases in Iraq and the region."
In a statement, it noted the use of dozens of drones and missiles in these operations.
On Friday, the Awliya al-Dam Brigades, affiliated with the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, announced that they had carried out a rocket barrage attack targeting the US Victory base at Baghdad airport.
In a statement it published, the Saraya said that the operation came “in fulfillment of our religious duty and in retaliation for the blood of the guardian of God, the Imam, the martyred leader, Ali al-Husseini al-Khamenei,” in addition to being “a deterrent to the aggression that led to the martyrdom of a group of young Iraqi resistance fighters.
>>2726453Centralization of capital, the monopolistic imperialist capitalism, is always like this
>>2726451>return to the negotiating tableWith whom? The blown up parts of the Iranian government? Now this is cucktism with chinese characteristics.
why has iran not retaliated yet for the israeli strike on the shahr-e-rey refinery
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>>2726453It takes years to build a factory, especially in America. No other factory is capable of building these missiles. If the factory was destroyed (not damaged, DESTROYED),America would either surrender or would be easily defeated by Iranian missile barrages.
>>2726460Because they can't.
>>2726462Then one wonders why America's adversaries haven't done this despite having the resources of nation states.
>>2726465Because America would nuke anyone who tried.
>>2726447>single-source contractors Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin etc. are the primary source of US-IDF arms and they have more than one factory. Not to mention fucking security, not to mention glowie internet surveillance, do you think they're not monitoring online organizations? One can't even organize a protest without them finding out and being able to send in bad-actors if necessary. Not to mention that even if somehow the feds tape their eyes, ears and nose shut and turn off surveillance, or somehow you word-by-mouth it without getting caught; there's still the logistics of it and the aftermath. What do you think they'll do to people that even attempt it? What do you think Guantanamo or any other blacksite is for? Due Process is America's personal legal joke. Hell, even if you're somehow prepared to accept being hauled off and tortured by the spiritual descendants of the SS, are you ready to sacrifice your family for that? Because that is certainly a possible thing they'd go for. IF not directly than ruining their lives. They did exactly that with the Black Panthers.
>solitary factory that makes Patriot PAC-3 interceptors would end this war. They already ran out of PAC 3s and use PAC-2s you moron. They have fucking stockpiles of this shit, not to mention SM-3s
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