>>2726470depends on what the gulf arabs do at the end of this I guess
>>2726470The US has already won this war.
>>2726468funny how this dude of all enemies of the US is the one chilling right now (comparatively speaking)
>>2726474>psyopped Chud thinks they were anything but cattleThe irony is palpable.
>>2726461Why is ameriKKKa deploying city cops to a warzone.
Yes, Kuwait is a warzone.
>>2726479Huh, was it a win in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, libya, or any other campaign since WWII? I guess it depends on what you mean by winning and who specifically 'wins'. It sure isn't the vets dying by their own hand and crippled for life. The bankers and politicians might consider it a win but I don't see it.
>>2726488Syria and Libya definitely were, but those were fundamentally different conflicts where the vast majority of the actual fighting was done by proxies on the ground. If America couldn't bomb North Vietnam into submission then there's no reason to think they could do it to Iran.
>>2726470>How big of a disaster is this going to be for the US?Less than we hope, way more than they fear.
>>2726488You do understand that the bankers are the ones who run this government, right? Everything is done for their benefit, and they won all of those wars and won them easily, because they profited off the chaos with no backlash at all thanks to the American "left" being intentionally impotent.
>>2726490North Vietnam had help from half the world, it had an air force which could contest the skies and it had the best air defence network in the world. Iran has none of those things.
shahed-136 lowkey look like a paper airplane
>throw paper airplane at vet
>kills self
>>2726488>AfghanistanI'm unaware on how much the CIA still controls the opium/heroin trade in the region but when I read about it back in the 10s it seemed like they were winning very hard.
>IraqAll of the oil is in western hands now, Iraq is not even a possible threat to Israel right now and they're basically cooperating with the Israeli/American special military operation against Iran instead of being another soft-adversary/nuissance like it would've been under Saddam.
>SyriaWent from owning the zios from time to time and saber rattling quite a bit to a completely and unabashedly cucked and subservient entity to Israel and the west. The biggest and clearest win so far.
>Libyadunno lol, what's even happening there?
>any other campaign since WWIIWorst Korea is porkie's wet dream and has served as pretty effective propaganda piece for them for decades, despite anyone who looks just a bit deeper than surface level knowing the south is a horrid colonial shithole and capitalism is itself a big part of why.
Only for Vietnam it becomes harder to argue for a westoid victory there, but I think there's an angle to even that one.
>>2725988>That's a ridiculous reason to reject arms from an ally.its their own stated reason? did you think islamists are smart? theyre competent enough but they are not marxists. yes domestic aa/ad would also require training but that would be years out and integrated. accepting S-400 now means a russian corporal sitting inside the radar truck pressing the red button and the system calling moscow to ask permission. that actually is an entirely reasonable position to deny when they see what happens when patriot refuses to fire because internet cant connect to washington. its a huge risk for not much gain when what they really want is the tech transfer to make their own unshackled from another state. really not a sovereign position especially if you rely on it or aa/ad for strategic significance, which they dont, instead opting for firepower and deterrence which as we see is working.
>None of that will matter if they don't have weapons to fire at the enemy.but they do have weapons. they dont need ad to have offensive missiles, and the cost of production ratio benefits them
>>2726500and whether or not it is a ridiculous reason isnt really for us as observers to determine. that fact is russia and china offered and iran said no
>>2726494>North Vietnam had help from half the worldBut it wasn't enough to stop an obscene amount of ordinance from being dropped on them. The relevant point here is the demonstrated inability of bombing to topple governments as long as their (and their people's) resolve is intact.
>>2726505North Vietnam also extracted a heavy toll on the US invader, which Iran has not and cannot do.
>>2726495>Goycattle thinks we are retarded enough to share in their race based world view Why are you even here?
Don't you have to get raped by your favorite based white billionaire or something?
>>2726507They don't necessarily need to, they just need to survive.
>>2726494>It had the best air defence network in the worldBest is pushing it. The USSR which created that network (and not even with their top-of-the-line SAMs) had the best network, in part because of their defensive army doctrine.
Half the world being China and the USSR primarily with some small Soviet Bloc assistance.
>Iran has none of those things. Iran has ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones out the wazoo and they've done the same job as strike aircraft; destroy enemy operational and even strategic capacity. Iranian Air Defenses are also pretty damn good, they're just facing one of the most technologically advanced forces in the world and one that has experience with SEAW operations. They're still dangerous because B-52s are only doing stand-off missions and the US and IDF are only sending in drones and stealth aircraft for very fast missions with maximum AWACS and SEAD coverage.
Additionally, bombing campaigns without boots on the ground or proxy forces at the very least have NEVER worked. The USAF bombed the majority of North Korea into rubble, literally more bombs were dropped on all of Indochina (comparable in size to Iran) than collectively all the bombs dropped in WW2. In Yugoslavia it took all of NATO WITH Ground Forces and proxies to shatter Yugoslavia, with 3x the number of HARM and anti-SAM missiles fired compared to the Gulf War. The Gulf War was also won because aerial forces bombed out the Iraqi army and then armored forces swept in and demolished the remainder. This is standard tactics. Simply bombing and assassinating leaders with no coup plan never works.
>>2726512>he USAF bombed the majority of North Korea into rubbleIn the case of the Korean War you would occasionally have US bombers returning to their bases fully loaded because they couldn't find any intact buildings to bomb. That war was still a stalemate and the DPRK still stands.
Do you think that they will put Boots on the ground?
And if they do put Boobs on da ground then will there be a draft. I hope not because I don't wanna get drafted but at least all of the Antisemitic chuds can get blown up by a shahed drone knowing that he died for Israel.
>>2726519there will never be another draft in america
>>2726519boots or nuke. either way. fuck. cant even aurafarm. dont know what will happen.
>>2726512American technology (which is not top of the line btw, they are lagging behind Russia and China) is countered by American logistics being dogshit. For example, airfields being threatened drastically decreases efficiency of American air defences because they use jets for interception. Americnas are using an obscene number of refueling aircraft, but that's not helping them much because they still have to restock their weapons on the ground.
War's not winnable without a ground invasion of Iran to silence Iranian missiles and drones. Bombing campaigns against civilian targets will not amount to decrease in Iranian military might
>>2726519>Boobs on da groundI'll join if that's the plan
>>2726503AW LAWL, THE AMERIMUTTS ARE UNDER A FINANCIAL CORRALITO
>>2726503I hope my graphene investments survive.
It probably will
>>2726511They do need to extract some sort of toll on the Americans and they can't.
>>2726512>Iran has ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones out the wazoo and they've done the same job as strike aircraft; destroy enemy operational and even strategic capacity. Iranian Air Defenses are also pretty damn good, they're just facing one of the most technologically advanced forces in the world and one that has experience with SEAW operations. They're still dangerous because B-52s are only doing stand-off missions and the US and IDF are only sending in drones and stealth aircraft for very fast missions with maximum AWACS and SEAD coverage. Iran has a lot of missiles which are effortlessly intercepted by the IDF's missile defence system and ruthlessly hunted from the skies, which is why their launch numbers are in the toilet now. They have no capacity to rebuild or replenish their stocks, either. Once they burn through their stockpiles, they are done.
Iran's air defenses are so depleted that the Zionists strike them with absolute impunity and have yet to lose a single airplane.
>Additionally, bombing campaigns without boots on the ground or proxy forces at the very least have NEVER worked. The USAF bombed the majority of North Korea into rubble, literally more bombs were dropped on all of Indochina (comparable in size to Iran) than collectively all the bombs dropped in WW2. In Yugoslavia it took all of NATO WITH Ground Forces and proxies to shatter Yugoslavia, with 3x the number of HARM and anti-SAM missiles fired compared to the Gulf War. The Gulf War was also won because aerial forces bombed out the Iraqi army and then armored forces swept in and demolished the remainder. This is standard tactics. Simply bombing and assassinating leaders with no coup plan never works.Both the US and Mossad have admitted that they have a proxy force and their goal is to provide them with the ability to rise up and overthrow their government after they destroy the Islamic regime's means of imposing it's rule on the people. This is why they've been targeting police stations, Basiji outposts, intelligence offices and IRGC infrastructure.
>>2726516The DPRK also had help from half the world, especially to rebuild their country after the war. Iran does not.
>Iran's air defenses are so depleted that the Zionists strike them with absolute impunity
least retarded person with 0 military understanding.
>>2726533>effortlessly intercepted by the IDF's missile defence systemLMAO no. Not only are they getting through, but they're accurate too, pics posted in the previous thread. The Patriot missile is dogshit against ballistic threats, this has been proven repeatedly since the 90s when they failed to shoot down a single old as fuck Scud missile. US DoD claimed a 90% interception rate, until it was realized that literally 0 successfully hit their targets. That was PAC-1 and 2, with PAC-3 being specifically created because the other two were too weak to get the job done and even those have difficulty shooting down a fucking Su-34 when fired in salvos, let alone ballistic missiles. The THAAD and SM-3/SM6 are decent missiles but they're expensive and limited in number and the destruction of the strategic RADARs has made them significantly less capable.
>They have no capacity to rebuild or replenish their stocks Yes they do, their ballistic missiles are their own and their factories are deep in mountainous fortifications.
>uthlessly hunted from the skies Except Iran continues to fire wave after wave and the launch numbers are still high, what are you even on about? If we go by video footage alone, the IDF and USAF has hit maybe 200 units total if we're being generous. Not to mention cheap as fuck Shaheds that have provably gotten through repeatedly.
>Iran's air defenses are so depleted that the Zionists strike them with absolute impunity and have yet to lose a single airplane. They've lost 2 F-15s and they're not even entering Iranian airspace with manned aircraft save for B2s which were built specifically to counter S-300s and comparable chinese units.
>oth the US and Mossad have admitted that they have a proxy force No, they've both claimed they have one, but the Kurds refused to fight, the rest are minor groups at best.
>This is why they've been targeting police stations, Basiji outposts, intelligence offices and IRGC infrastructure. And they will never destroy all of it because Iran is fucking huge and hides half its government and military infrastructure in mountain bases that are immune to almost everything.
>The DPRK also had help from half the world, especially to rebuild their country after the war. The DPRK was mostly independent from at least the 1970s up until the 2000s and did fine. Nuclear technology and ballistic missiles were learned on their own. Iran learned from them and the Chinese.
>>2726533>They do need to extract some sort of toll on the Americans and they can't.They're already extracting a toll in material, and more importantly on the world economy. Restricting global oil supplies will bring worldwide pressure on the US to withdraw, and Iran will continue to retaliate until they do. This is assuming that A) there aren't more casualties than we've been told, and B) casualties don't go up as Iran inflicts damage on THAAD and other radar systems, depletes interceptor stocks, etc.
>which is why their launch numbers are in the toilet nowYou still haven't shown this, and other analysts have argued that this is representative of lower interception rates due to low stocks, in turn requiring fewer missiles to inflict the desired damage. This is what Alastair Crook argues, he was a British diplomat in Israel and an ex-MI6 glowie. He says that at present rates Iran's stockpile could last for months, that most of what they've fired now is their old stock, and that their launch capacity is hardened and has not been significantly degraded. He also argues that strict censorship in Israel is restricting a full assessment of the damage. The only claims I've seen that the number of missiles has significantly decreased have come from the US or Israeli militaries. Israel, Iraq, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Bahrain are all still being hit daily, so clearly the war is not over.
>Both the US and Mossad have admitted that they have a proxy force What proxy force? There are no signs of internal instability in Iran. The ethnic Persian opposition has no organization, no weapons. By all accounts its extremely divided and widely regarded as impotent. Trump has already ruled out some kind of Kurdish Bay of Pigs, and the KRG said they wouldn't cooperate with such a scheme. There is no imperialist ground force being arrayed against Iran.
>This is why they've been targeting police stations, Basiji outposts, intelligence offices and IRGC infrastructure. And yet even Western media like CNN show that there is no breakdown of civil order, no sign of the Islamic Republic losing control.
>The DPRK also had help from half the world, especially to rebuild their country after the war. Iran does not.Honestly if there is one thing we can rely on China to do, it's take advantage of a massive investment opportunity. I think we could expect to see a huge influx of Chinese capital after the war.
>>2726547USAmerica's original founding father was Oliver Cromwell, who was Hitler for the Irish
>>2726533Absolutely B.S and cope as multiple anons have pointed out. You have zero evidence to proof this.
>Both the US and Mossad have admitted that they have a proxy force I know you’re just making shit up but who? The Kurds said no and the U.S/israels civilian bombings in Tehran is literally killing the only base of support they would have. They killed all the opposition leaders, the only ethnic group significant enough said no because they’ve been betrayed so many time and finally wised up.
Thick black cloud engulfs Tehran
What happened last night is quite unprecedented.
It’s daytime here in Tehran today, but it looks like night as the city is surrounded by a thick black cloud. On my way to the office, I saw drops of rain falling onto my window, and they were black.
There is a high risk of being surrounded by toxic air as last night several fuel depots and oil refineries were reportedly targeted across different locations, including the south-east of Tehran and the eastern part of Shehran.
This is not the first time. Back in June, during the 12-day war, we saw fuel depots being targeted, but this is unprecedented. We are dealing with a critical situation in terms of war and environmental circumstances in the capital.
And we are receiving reports of these attacks continuing across the country.
There are serious concerns about the rising number of casualties among civilians. Three days ago, the tally was at about 1,300, but we know that in the past days, intensive strikes targeting Iranian territory have continued, so it’s likely that the number has gone up.
Meanwhile, Iran continues to strike back – no sign of de-escalation as of now.
>>2726556it would not be surprising if Iran started indiscriminately bombing all tel aviv
>>2726556>>2726556>Thick black cloud engulfs TehranGonna call BS on this one, the fires we saw were bad, but not like what this claims
>>2726543>LMAO no. Not only are they getting through, but they're accurate too, pics posted in the previous thread. The Patriot missile is dogshit against ballistic threats, this has been proven repeatedly since the 90s when they failed to shoot down a single old as fuck Scud missile. US DoD claimed a 90% interception rate, until it was realized that literally 0 successfully hit their targets. That was PAC-1 and 2, with PAC-3 being specifically created because the other two were too weak to get the job done and even those have difficulty shooting down a fucking Su-34 when fired in salvos, let alone ballistic missiles. The THAAD and SM-3/SM6 are decent missiles but they're expensive and limited in number and the destruction of the strategic RADARs has made them significantly less capable. It is an objective fact that over 90% of Iranian missiles have been intercepted. Technology has advanced considerably in 30 years and the Patriot is not what it used to be. They regularly intercept ballistics in Ukraine that are far better than anything Iran has (Iskander)
>Yes they do, their ballistic missiles are their own and their factories are deep in mountainous fortifications. And they can AT BEST produce a handful of them a month, less than Israel and America can produce interceptors.
>Except Iran continues to fire wave after wave and the launch numbers are still high, what are you even on about? If we go by video footage alone, the IDF and USAF has hit maybe 200 units total if we're being generous. Not to mention cheap as fuck Shaheds that have provably gotten through repeatedly. It is again, an objective fact that Iranian fire rates have fallen off and continue to fall daily. They do not launch waves of missiles, they launch 1-2 at a time. Their Shaheds cannot hit Israel because they lack the range, and Iran has fired fewer of them during this entire war than Russia does in 1 night in Ukraine.
>They've lost 2 F-15s and they're not even entering Iranian airspace with manned aircraft save for B2s which were built specifically to counter S-300s and comparable chinese units. They lost 3 F-15s to friendly fire. Iran has yet to shoot down any coalition aircraft and will not do so.
>No, they've both claimed they have one, but the Kurds refused to fight, the rest are minor groups at best. Iran was just wracked with massive protests that nearly attained critical mass on their own. Without the IRGC to put them down things could be radically different. Iran was a deeply broken nation even before these attacks and now is in much worse condition. All of the contradictions like hyperinflation, shortages and water are still present, only now Iran can't put down dissent.
>The DPRK was mostly independent from at least the 1970s up until the 2000s and did fine. Nuclear technology and ballistic missiles were learned on their own. Iran learned from them and the Chinese.The DPRK got massive support from China and the USSR, they were never truly self-reliant.
>>2726548
>They're already extracting a toll in material, and more importantly on the world economy. Restricting global oil supplies will bring worldwide pressure on the US to withdraw, and Iran will continue to retaliate until they do. This is assuming that A) there aren't more casualties than we've been told, and B) casualties don't go up as Iran inflicts damage on THAAD and other radar systems, depletes interceptor stocks, etc. Except the people who matter are making money from that material toll and so it benefits them to have a war like this. Thus far, Iran has not shut down the strait of Hormuz (because they can't) and oil continues to flow.
A) America does not have a regime of military censorship like the IDF and cannot effectively hide casualties
and
B) America can produce more interceptors than Iran can missiles, and is already working on doing so. This is also assuming that the rest of NATO doesn't get involved and bring in their air defense.
>You still haven't shown this, and other analysts have argued that this is representative of lower interception rates due to low stocks, in turn requiring fewer missiles to inflict the desired damage. This is what Alastair Crook argues, he was a British diplomat in Israel and an ex-MI6 glowie. He says that at present rates Iran's stockpile could last for months, that most of what they've fired now is their old stock, and that their launch capacity is hardened and has not been significantly degraded. He also argues that strict censorship in Israel is restricting a full assessment of the damage. The only claims I've seen that the number of missiles has significantly decreased have come from the US or Israeli militaries. Israel, Iraq, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Bahrain are all still being hit daily, so clearly the war is not over. You can literally count the number of missiles fired, it's no great secret. Every missile launched from Iran is tracked from the moment it reaches the surface until it's inevitably intercepted. Iranian attacks are 1-2 missiles at best now and are being intercepted with ease.
>What proxy force? There are no signs of internal instability in Iran. The ethnic Persian opposition has no organization, no weapons. By all accounts its extremely divided and widely regarded as impotent. Trump has already ruled out some kind of Kurdish Bay of Pigs, and the KRG said they wouldn't cooperate with such a scheme. There is no imperialist ground force being arrayed against Iran. The same one that was rioting in the streets for months and was only barely put down thanks to massive brutality from the IRGC, who is all dead or forced underground now.
>And yet even Western media like CNN show that there is no breakdown of civil order, no sign of the Islamic Republic losing control.And the western bombing campaign isn't even close to done.
>Honestly if there is one thing we can rely on China to do, it's take advantage of a massive investment opportunity. I think we could expect to see a huge influx of Chinese capital after the war.If there is one thing we can rely on China to do, it's nothing.
>>2726572Btw maybe you'd like to address the fact that even US intelligence reports say that the US wouldn't be able to topple the Islamic Republic even in a large scale war.
>>2726553 >>2726572Hello fellow "skeptical anti imperialist"
>>2726587>And I reiterate, Iran's Eastern missile bases have not yet been used in full capacity.Additionally, as time progresses, the U.S. and Israeli strikes will decrease in their intensity. They don't have the munitions needed to bomb underground bases 24/7.
Within a few weeks, and possibly as early as 5-6 days from now, Iranian engineers will be able to start working on getting the Western missile bases back into operation.
Things to prepare for tomorrow:
>houthis potentially trying to solo the USS Gerald Ford (the shit-filled carrier) in the red sea
>markets opening for stonks to go to the ground and oil to go to the moon (kuwait suspended production this weekend)
Keep monitoooring.
The sooner people accept the possibility of a worst case scenario, the better.
Israel/america struck desalination plants. The streets of Tehran are slicked with burning oil. Even the water is on fire. The white house is intervening to stop investigations into retaliatory terror. They could be planning a false flag. The possibility that this takes the form of the nuclear option is not unimaginable. If everything continues to goes wrong here, they will nuke Iran. There is a chance this stays in the low yield tactical range; but once the line is crossed, who knows. If the nuclear winter hypothesis is at all correct, the proceeding nuclear winter will affect the whole planet. What's left of Iran will strike desalination plants in the UAE and then their oil fields; and place mines in the strait. Those oil fields will burn for years. When that nuclear winter ends, the methane released from the burning oil fields will cause exponential global heating for at least 20 years; and the carbon a long-term worsening of the climate crisis for the forseeable future.
I'm not religious, but if you have the luxury of belief, I envy you. Spend this time living slowly. Appreciate that you, a piece of living and breathing matter, can experience anything at all. If that doesn't put you at ease, just remember that not everyone gets to see the end of the world.
>>2726533 its not effective at all on top of not being produced at scale. the only one that is effective is thaad and its entire use case only existed explicitly for japan and korea to defend from a single non mirv mrbm and as soon as dprk passed that status it also became completely irrelevant. the israeli one is for intercepting bottle rockets. patriot and aegis dont work. their <50% interception rate is worse than not working in actuality because it gives a false sense of security
all their toys only "worked" because the missile treaties put everyone in a narrow band where they were most effective. theyve never been able to intercept medium range "hypersonic" ballistics thats why they made up the inf because the su had escalation dominance over europe. but the recent admins have forgotten that from huffing too much of their own propaganda
>>2726597i wish i could have lived long enough to die by natural causes, but it will not happen
>>2726556==Thick black cloud engulfs Tel Aviv=
>>2726494>You do understand that [statement] right? am I the only one noticing this pattern of words used over and over? Is mossad this lazy?
>>2726597The American Empire introduced themselves on the world stage with unleashing two nukes on Japan and exits the world stage by unleashing nukes on Iran. The only state to use nukes while the rest of the world has a no-first use policy. Poetic end to such a barbaric state
>>2726587Ghost of Kiev is flying the missiles
>>2726612crystal cafe's communist board was shut down recently and now all their femcels have migrated here, including you
>>2726612You ruined CPUSA.
>>2726615Tell the 'fe goddesses we communist shotas do not want them here.
>>2726520This tbh. Thatd be too fucking dangerous to have radicalised military trained young people all over the country when half of under 30s watch Hasan or Fuentes.
>>2726612it's international womens day. they are famous leftist women.
>>2726592why am i seeing this crank everywhere all of a sudden?
>>2726622just report as off topic and ignore
I hope my chan designated lefty waifu is cute
>>2726583You know, you'd think that someone who has been in the military would understand that information is a weapon and if these reports were true, US intelligence would NEVER release them to the public because it would encourage an Iranian attack that they desperately wanted to dissuade.
But I guess they just taught you how to kill kids overseas nothing else.
>>2726584You're all delusional and it's a little bit frightening tbh.
>>2726588Incorrect, as Iran's air defenses are destroyed (and this is only a matter of time) the US and Israel will switch to JDAMs, of which they have far more than Iran does TELs. The US can absolutely bomb the bases 24/7 with JDAMs, they have a basically unlimited stock of them.
>>2726597Iran can't hit the desalinization plants yet. The gulf air defense networks are still in tact and Iran can't launch enough missiles to saturate them.
>>2726599Patriot regularly intercepts Ballistics in Ukraine, and those are better than anything that Iran has. Israel's interception rate thus far is better than 90%. It might even be 100% given as it seems that all Iran has hit them with is debris from the missiles, not the actual warheads.
>>2726597>capitalism finally takes us all downcommunism could have prevented all this but baltoids needed blue jeans
>>2726547the Irish show solidarity with Gadaffi and Palestine. Sorry Chud.
>>2726626>It might even be 100% given as it seems that all Iran has hit them with is debris from the missiles, not the actual warheads.Holy shit you really are clueless. There was a direct warhead hit in this war that Israel admitted becauss it killed 9 civvies.
>>2726636Oh, sorry, it's ONLY 95% then. My bad.
>>2726597Man all these record heatwaves almost make you wish for a nuclear winter
>>2726640Keep backpedaling lol. You're not actually keeping up with the war.
>>2726622chinese wisdom enjoyers are everywhere
>>2726645I don't have to follow every single strike to know that Iran has dealt no militarily, economically or societally significant damage to Israel. Israel retains 100% of it's military capabilities it had before the war, and is exercising them daily even as Iran's military capabilities continue to decline. The US has suffered some superficial damage but nothing that can stop it from striking back. It's aircraft (sans 3, an insignificant loss) and ships are still all in place, routinely striking Iran with impunity. Meanwhile, Iranian government infrastructure will continue to be degraded, it's oil industry destroyed and it's launch capabilities attrited to the maximum possible extent.
Basically, America and Israel can hurt Iran badly, while Iran cannot hurt America or Israel at all.
The only way that America can really LOSE this war is if they invade, at what point they will eat shit and die thanks to Iran inventing the tactics that defeated the US already in Iraq.
>>2726540Notice how absent the interimperialist/anticampist/bothsidist posters are
it's an interdengist conflict really
on the discussion of factories, what could be effective for a strong peace movement rather than show protest would be to block the advanced weapons and explosives factories rather than blowing them up
the short term effect would be limited, no permanent damage and so it would be less acceptable to violently remove them but its a big concern for a long term war
>>2726647uygha Israel is a secondary theatre in this war (unlike the last one) and ofc America is far away. You're just acting as if the Gulf and the Hormuz ticking clock don't exist.
>>2726655they'll brutalize protestors either way. but yeah, blocking those as well as well as military logistics hubs like ports would be effective. but above all, a general strike would be the best.
>>2726656If Iran could shut down the strait, why haven't they done so? Iran's best play would be to maximize economic damage to the US and Israel, but they haven't even done that. Nothing of real value has been lost yet, and the oil continues to flow in the strait.
>>2726660They practically have already done so. Traffic is down 99.9% and Iraq + Kuwait have already suspended production due to filled storage.
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