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>Hear me people: We have now to deal with another race - small and feeble when our fathers first met them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough they have a mind to till the soil and the love of possession is a disease with them. These people have made many rules that the rich may break but the poor may not. They take their tithes from the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule.Sitting Bull
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Arrested and charged with $20,000 in bail, targeted by right wing influencer [redacted], Florida proves to be hostile territory for the left.
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/erik-houdini-legal-fundthe dissunited ssnakkkess of crackkkmerikkka lost
the sstate of pissrakkkell lost
the antiimperialist izlamic repvblic of iran vvon
Just do the coup, cancel the elections, do it now, I’m tired of pretending to live in a democracy
>>2732239you will continue living under liberal demokkkrakkky and you will (not) like it chud
fucking yank devils
>>2732217
I'm kind of worried about the possibility of further colonization of thought by capitalism in our lifetimes. If phones made us this retarded, imagine what happens when we get internet implants into our brains
>>2732247Bro there’s literally nothing in Ghost in the Shell that can’t be done with just a phone, surgically implanting computer parts is a retarded idea
>>2732241Climate change means a return to feudalism and roman slavery as we all fight over the arable land in Canada, Greenland, northern Scandinavia, and Siberia
>>2732256That’s what Chat Gepetto is for
>>2732269You’re going to be my slave
>>2732248shitty yank cartoon
what is it even about?
look uygha, we so uygha, we speak uygha we think uygha
nonsense
>>2732271Harvest grain slave
>>2732271Aren't you an Indian? I saw that picture you posted the other day, and you look a bit light skinned for a Chagossian.
>>2732221previous thread
>>2726668+ archives
>>2732318oop, i was so focused on polishing the OP that I forgot the old thread link
what exactly are democrats going to do with their prophesied blue wave majority when it happens?
I got selected for jury duty and it's pretty serious criminal trial. Going to last around 2 weeks. They even had 60 possible candidates for it brought in
>>2732332What they always do, continue the status quo and pretend liberal internationalism is both real and a good thing
>>2732334You can get out of it really easy if you want to, don’t pretend to be racist, just tell them you know what jury nullification is
>>2732340Yes I easily could but I don't want to get out of it. Its an interesting case. Way over half the people asked to be excused so it is likely I can end up as a juror
>>2732332they are in a standoff with their own base trying to keep a position of dictating policy to the voters instead of the other way around. This has been going on for at least 10 years. They will do all kinds of performative gestures with the press giving great fanfare but as always it will be a bare minimum to keep their voters from looking elsewhere for political options and it will fail and the right wing will come back emboldened in the 2030s and probably kill most of their opposition with psycho zoomer death squads. I doubt the country will exist by 2045
>>2732332Nothing. They'll pay some lip service to sexual minorities, because that includes rich white people.
>>2732374not even remotely surprising lol
>>2732278I was not in the picture i posted. They were my friends, all mauritians.
>>2732252Monocrop fields had a shelf life anyway we're gonna have to do more labor intensive agriculture unless someone makes some really cool robots.
>>2732256I fucking love GITS but just realized how stupid this is. If youre a robo wouldnt you just interface directly with the PC and control it?
>>2732607millennial humor xDDD
>>2732623yeah, millennial humor, just like I said
>>2732604Because it looks cool.
>>2732332democrats pretty much have an open goal win in 2026 and 2028 now because of this war. i imagine 2028 democrat primary to be brutal because whoever wins will coast to the presidency.
and as with what they will do
NOTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>2732604This way yr cybrbran can stay airgapped
>>2732607certified classic
>>2732632>>2732616which generation humor do you prefer the most? let's derail this into genpol fully instead of just half assing it
>>2732374wow the anti-Islam kkkrusader in amerikkka is a zionist? who could have seen this coming? maybe he'll dance when """""iran""""" attacks us later this year. does jake lang have any political positions which
don't aligin with jizzrahell?
>>2732374>jake lang is a crypto israeli who goes out of his way to sieg heil in front of an AIPAC building so everyone opposed to AIPAC looks like a heckin bigot>people will fall for this because it's spectacle sloptiresome
>>2732444I too have black friends yankee
>>2732741Moffin we all know you live in the whitest part of Italy that voted 90% for Meloni don't even try to pretend.
test
>>2732739I'm not /pol/ lmao
That's the whole point. Both BNWO and Handmaid's Tale are weird fetish shit masquerading as politics.
When I first heard about it, I thought Handmaid's Tale was basically going to be The Scarlett Letter meets 1984. What I got was a story about liberal-coded women being forced to wear red Little Bo Peep costumes and sent to be the breeding sow maids of men with infertile wives, and are also forbidden to show any emotion and if they do, they're punished with body modding.
Some friends and I recently talked to a guy with his residency papers seemingly in order who got arrested on trumped up charges by southron cops, beaten up and dropped off at the ICE check in station in the city we live in. He even showed his internal bruising and told us that he was apparently in a Mexican army (or national guard unit) that got deployed to Vietnam.
>>2732752>Moffin we all know you live in the whitest part of Italy that voted 90% for Meloni don't even try to pretend.Vooting doesn't even matter, Italy doesn't have a hard economy its a literal luxery treat exporter dependent on american consoomers. Therefore there is no revolutionary proletariat just fascist nostalgia and welfare dependent socdems.
>>2732826Epstein class gonna Epstein
>>2732867
You say that like all the blue collar guys in the steel belt WANTED their jobs gone and applauded when their plants shut down
>>2732228>fascist population chimps out at each other out of violant frustration that their treats are declining >Children replicate this, billions must witness the spectacle.No suprise there. What fifty years of zero productive labor exported does a motherfucker.
>>2732623>>2732607>/soy/ is 8chan8chan was far gone when the soyteen were were birth out of there dad's pee hole
>>2732869>You say that like all the blue collar guys in the steel belt WANTED their jobs gone and applauded when their plants shut downYes, they did nothing to organize or pursue any path other than higher wages for more treats. Inaction is consent.
boo hoo the us military lost their steel production. Don't worry though you can watch Iran benefit from this on leftypol.org
>>2732334Ooof, I got selected as an alternate the first time I got jury duty and it was a drive-by shooting case. I thought the prosecution's case was really weak and I probably would've acquitted. They had no car, no weapon, and only one witness they sound like they probably coached into fingering somebody. Their whole story was that this guy used to buy weed from this guy and then stopped once they got their weed card. Then coincidentally he was being initiated into a gang and by chance saw the guy on the street and decided he was the perfect target for the random murder he would commit to get into the gang. Of course they had no witnesses that could attest to any of that but they did bring in this "expert gang witness" who was this retarded fat Mexican that my friend said was also called in to testify on a gang related case. Can't believe they brought that shit to court.
It was really stressful being asked to possibly decide that case even though I was just an alternate. Main thing I learned to is that Asissistant DAs are absolute retards. I was calling out objections before the dumb bitch just from watching law and order. The judge must have felt so bad for this incompetent bitch she actually told her one time like "uhmm I think you want to call this objection…."
I got a jury summons again a few years after that and I just pretended like I didn't get it and they never sent me one again. Don't know why people are always talking about "getting out of jury duty" you just don't respond to their letter. It's that shrimple. They probably stopped sending me them after that because they know now I'm not dumb enough to respond.
>>2732899I always wondered what happened with the case because I got dismissed early for being late but there is no way to look up some random gang murder in a big city even though I remember all these details from the case.
>>2732824>that got deployed to Vietnam.Damn, he must be old as shit.
>>2732881>Company announces they are shutting down the plant and moving it out of country<Just go on strike1000 autism score Mauritian move.
>>2732826Operation Epstein Fury
>>2732906Yeah he was pretty old, but I've never heard about an actual Mexican military unit deployed for, I'll ask the /latam/ thread if they've heard anything.
>>2732909>organizing just means strikingabsolute state of the unionized labor aristocracy. zero revolutionary potential from those that do not even envision themselves as revolutionary.
the main paradox is people feel oppressed with one job and the "solution" is to get another job called "organizing" which may or may not get you killed by the state and could possibly result in "revolution" several years down the line. most naturally will not do this.
>>2732922well Marx first theorized that the advanced capitalist nations not the periphary would have the material surplus and worker motivation neccessary for socialism but he did not live long enough to see the immortal science of treatlerism manifest instead.
>>2732927well lucky for you the treatlers will soon live like the third worlders thanks to almighty iranian jihad and porky will have even more cheap workers. that will intensify class struggle or whatever according to megamind accelerationist thought
>>2732929The truth is the proletariat is a reactionary class no matter where they inhabit, only peasants can be revolutionary
>>2732927What kind of revolutionary stuff did Marx do? Maybe that's the problem, listening to a labor aristocrat who never did a day of manual labor telling you about how all the factory workers are going to rise up any day now.
>>2732931>The truth is the proletariat is a reactionary class no matter where they inhabit, only peasants can be revolutionaryI think it's a trvke people aren't willing to accept. Marx wrote about how it was all about the proletariat from his armchair, but then the people that actually went and did the thing found they had to build it on the backs of the peasantry and now we have the hammer and sickle.
>>2732929>treatlers will soon live like the third worlders would rather die in a foreign country than reindustralize.
>porky will have even more cheap workerstheyre going for chat gpt zogbots instead.
>that will intensify class struggle or whatever according to megamind accelerationist thoughtthe less non productive, non working class consoomers there are on the planet the better.
>>2732934>What kind of revolutionary stuff did Marx do? Maybe that's the problem, listening to a labor aristocrat who never did a day of manual labor telling you about how all the factory workers are going to rise up any day now.so trve. instead we should listen to the porky owned LLMs and mass tor baiters who say nothing ever happens and you should surrender to your overlords now because it's so fvcking Qver
I guess as the tradition of the founder Marx, every leftist is just an intellectual who thinks he can chastise people to taking up arms against the government through text. Leftypol is very Marxist indeed.
>>2732935>the less non productive, non working class consoomers there are on the planet the better.NEETs are drain on empire
NEETs are revolutionary in 1st world
NEETs are drain on anti-imperialist nation
NEETs are counter revolutionary in 3rd world
dialectics in motion
>>2732936>so trve. instead we should listen to the porky owned LLMs and mass tor baiters who say nothing ever happens and you should surrender to your overlords now because it's so fvcking QverThey probably both have the same level of cogency.
>>2732937>every leftist is just an intellectual who thinks he can chastise people to taking up arms against the government through textjust pointing out material reality isnt the same as that.
>>2732939NEETS are the empire however. The endgame for every bourj is to not work a day in their lives and let the foreigners do everything for then. Class struggle is against all NEETS haute or petite.
>>2732947And they were wrong, Lenin was bourgeois, the slavic Simon Bolivar
>>2732949>NEETS are the empire however. Wronk. You defy NEET dialectics. NEETs are drain on empire. If every burger was NEET empire would collapse immediately.
>>2732947>WrongRight. Marx predicted more advanced countries would reach a revolutionary period sooner than countries behind the curve under rule of capital.
>Marx and Engels predicted that russia may be the first country to have socialist revolution. Marx hated Russia and was very doubtful it even had potential. It took some convincing for him to see Russia as a place for where accelerated communist development would occur.
>>2732947I always fimd it hilarious the Russian edition was translated by their good friend Bakunin.
>The first Russian edition of the Manifesto of the Communist Party, translated by Bakunin
<Bakunin has become a monster, a huge mass of flesh and fat, and is barely capable of walking any more. To crown it all, he is sexually perverse and jealous of the seventeen year-old Polish girl who married him in Siberia because of his martyrdom. He is presently in Sweden, where he is hatching “revolution” with the Finns.I think Bakunin was right about them
>>2732954>If every burger was NEET empire would collapse immediately.It would midly inconveniance the ruling class but they would just outsource even more labor and extract what they need from the natocucks and global south instead.
>>2732937>I guess as the tradition of the founder Marx, every leftist is just an intellectual who thinks he can chastise people to taking up arms against the government through textThe working class will fight for their own interests whether or not Communists exist. The goal of Communists is to get the working class to use tactics that are actually effective and go beyond narrow trade union.consciousness
>>2732962global south should become NEET and stop going to work for foreign porky.
>>2732975The interests of the working class are in the rape of the world and maintaining the epstein class, all in the name of “a fair day’s wage for a fair day’s work”.
>>2732978>global south should become NEET and stop going to work for foreign porky.Don't have the means of consumption they will work for foreign porky until they secured their own treat supply
>>2732962>It would midly inconveniance the ruling class but they would just outsource even more labor and extract what they need from the natocucks and global south instead.that would result in capital moving from core to periphery, draining the core of the very capital that makes it the core, and reducing the conditions which make the periphery peripheral, thereby evening out development. This would be a victory for anti imperialism. long live the NEETs of the first world who in spite of themselves create the conditions for true multipolarity
>>2732984>that would result in capital moving from core to periphery, draining the core of the very capital that makes it the core, and reducing the conditions which make the periphery peripheral, thereby evening out development. This would be a victory for anti imperialism. long live the NEETs of the first world who in spite of themselves create the conditions for true multipolarityomg DENG XIAOPING is that you?!?
>>2732962>>2732984>>2732982>>2732978>>2732990Neetdom is a global phenomenon fueled by poverty
>>2732980Why do you hate the proletariat so much
>>2732994I’m one of them and work sucks
>>2732271Its shit yank not shitty yank
>>2732826She is just horny for dead people in the middle east, god why didnt trump lock her up?
Trump hasnt hurt the people he promised to hurt to deserve pain and misfortune and but instead murders innocent people
>>2733009>She is just horny for dead people in the middle east, god why didnt trump lock her up?I feel like I'm the only one who remembers how fast he folded on that. It was literally just like 2-3 days after he won, they asked him in an interview if he was going to really lock the Clintons up and he said:
>I don't want to hurt them! They're good people! https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-60-minutes-20161114-story.html‘They're good people,’ Trump says of the Clintons in ’60 Minutes’ interview>“I don’t want to hurt them,” he said, referring to the Clintons. “They’re good people.”>“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t,” Trump said, according to a tweet by Times journalist Mike Grynbaum. “She went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways.”Can't even find that part clipped on youtube. Truthfully, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they used to fuck. He once wrote an op-ed talking about how horrible it was that Bill cheated on her and how mean the press was to her or whatever.
>>2733022yeah he also shilled for hillary against obama in the dem primaries for the 2008 election, was friends with clintons all through the 00s, and of course bill clinton and trump were both close to epstein and clients of his prostitution services. Trump gave an interview as late as 2011 saying that hillary clinton was a great woman and great senator. after the gaddafi shit.
>>2733063I never got why it wasn't automatic in the first place. Makes no sense, but that's so much of the bureaucracy in the USA. It's not like if they ever started drafting again they would just be like:
>Well, he didn't register, so I guess we can't draft him!I only registered for that shit because it was required to enroll in community college.
>>2732958Wrong. Marx and Engels said Russia was vanguard of revolution. You are epstein revisionist
>>2733069>Russia is a name usurped by the Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders], who must be chased back across the Dnieper, etc. Panslavism in the Russian sense is a cabinet invention, etc.https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1865/letters/65_06_24.htm>There is but one alternative for Europe. Either Asiatic barbarism, under Muscovite direction, will burst around its head like an avalanche, or else it must re-establish Poland, thus putting twenty million heroes between itself and Asia and gaining a breathing spell for the accomplishment of its social regeneration.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867/01/22a.htmAnd a page about why he changed his mind to some degree
https://www.marxists.org/archive/deutscher/1948/marx-russia.htm >>2733022I remember thats when the 4d chess cope started the whole 1st term was pol getting cucked.
>Bill cheated on her Thats rich coming from him
>>2733063it would be so fucking insanely stupid if they brought back the draft but it'd be great for the revolutionary left. can't think of anything else that'd radicalize more people in this political climate than disrupting everyone's atomized malaise to force them to die in a war no one wants for a ruling class of open and widely loathed baby-eating pedophiles.
>>2733098You missed the best one.
https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1849/01/13.htm>But at the first victorious uprising of the French proletariat, which Louis Napoleon is striving with all his might to conjure up, the Austrian Germans and Magyars will be set free and wreak a bloody revenge on the Slav barbarians. The general war which will then break out will smash this Slav Sonderbund and wipe out all these petty hidebound nations, down to their very names.
>The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward. >>2732945>The Autism communitySo he was an imageboard user?
>>2733098I dont care what the epstein revisionists say marx thought. Marx and engels themselves say Russia forms the vanguard of revolutionary action in Europe.
>>2733126>But the main issue of the correspondence was Russia’s road to socialism. In the West, capitalist industrialisation was, according to Marx and Engels, paving the way for socialism. The industrial working class was the main force interested in socialism. But what about Russia, where capitalist industry had not even begun to strike roots? The Narodniks argued that Russian socialism would be based on the primeval rural commune or the obshchina, which had existed alongside of feudalism. Even after the emancipation of the serfs in 1861, the peasant land was still owned by the rural commune, in some respects the forerunner of the present Russian kolkhoz. Russia, said the Narodniks, need not go through the trials and tribulations of capitalist industrialism to attain socialism. She finds socialism in her native rural tradition, which she only needs to cleanse of feudal remnants. This then was to be Russia’s road to socialism, very different from that by which Western Europe was expected to travel.
>Most, though not all, Narodniks were Slavophils and believed in Russia’s peculiar socialist mission. Marx, as we know, rejected Slavophilism; and nothing made him more furious than the talk about Russia’s socialist mission. He did not believe, he once said, that old Europe needed to be rejuvenated by Russian blood. But he did, nevertheless, share some of the hopes that the Narodniks placed on the Russian rural commune. Here, he said, in a famous letter to a Russian periodical in 1877, here was ‘the finest chance ever offered by history to any nation’ the chance to escape capitalism and to pass from feudalism straight into socialism. [9] True, Marx added important qualifications: the rural commune had begun to disintegrate, and if that process were to continue Russia would miss her ‘finest chance’. Moreover, a stimulus from outside, the socialist transformation of Western Europe, was needed to enable Russia to build socialism on the rural commune. In his eyes Western Europe had the birthright of socialist revolution, while Russia’s role could be secondary only. Nevertheless, Russia might have her own short cut to socialism. >>2733135>Source: BBC Third Programme talk, November 1948, republished in Isaac Deutscher, Heretics and Renegades and Other Essays (Hamish and Hamilton, London, 1955). You are epstein
>>2733135>But what about Russia, where capitalist industry had not even begun to strike roots? Wrong right out of the gate, the French had been heavily investing in Russian industry since the 1850s
>>2732826>Trump is aiming to secure Democrat support with recent messagingWhat recent messaging
>>2733169Hillary is just horney for dead middle easterners in happened in 2017 everyone who hated him for his 1st 100 days sucked him off after he bombed syria
>>2733154>To conclude, as I am not fond of leaving “something to be guessed,” I will come straight to the point. In order that I might be qualified to estimate the economic development in Russia to-day, I learnt Russian and then for many years studied the official publications and others bearing on this subject. I have arrived at this conclusion: If Russia continues to pursue the path she has followed since 1861, she will lose the finest chance ever offered by history to a nation, in order to undergo all the fatal vicissitudes of the capitalist regime.>In several parts of Capital I allude to the fate which overtook the plebeians of ancient Rome. They were originally free peasants, each cultivating his own piece of land on his own account. In the course of Roman history they were expropriated. The same movement which divorced them from their means of production and subsistence involved the formation not only of big landed property but also of big money capital. And so one fine morning there were to be found on the one hand free men, stripped of everything except their labour power, and on the other, in order to exploit this labour, those who held all the acquired wealth in possession. What happened? The Roman proletarians became, not wage labourers but a mob of do-nothings more abject than the former “poor whites” in the southern country of the United States, and alongside of them there developed a mode of production which was not capitalist but dependent upon slavery. Thus events strikingly analogous but taking place in different historic surroundings led to totally different results. By studying each of these forms of evolution separately and then comparing them one can easily find the clue to this phenomenon, but one will never arrive there by the universal passport of a general historico-philosophical theory, the supreme virtue of which consists in being super-historical.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/11/russia.htm>>2733165Wrong, but not far off the mark
>>2733179the thing is that enlistment already went up after Trump was inaugurated so I'm not sure why they would ever institute a draft, and yet I keep seeing posts about how it might happen.
>>2733191Fuck it if catholic priest cant marry world leaders cant either
>>2733193They will need to for coin operat9ons against a country the size of iran
>>2733060rude, one of our nibbas is down dog :^C
>car broke down i bike everywhere and im unemployed
Its my time to shine boys
>>2732932people can't buy rams for that, man. hahaha.
it sucks man.
>>2732932Yeah Epstein Fury and all that, but fuck AI.
>>2733321nah, it only uses of good aal good ai :^)
>>2733301>>2733321I mean by generating this they cost who ever the fuck a ridiculous amount money makeing them run out of capex sooner popping the bubble, so its based.
>>2733387>>2733377I mostly hate it from an ecological standpoint.
>>2733390nah, what can go worng :^)
>>2733301think of how much more resources would be used if what the video depicted were real. the pyrotechnics. the actors. the pretty ladies. resurrecting jeffrey epstein. it's the thought that counts.
>>2733296wow his mouth is working
>>2733296wow the total non applause even from his own cuck crowd after he said jake paul should be president
Hope everyone has been doing okay!
Also to offer a brief comment on this bizarre argument about Proles being a “reactionary class” and this primitivism dressed up in Marxist lingo, the actual consequences of this thinking is fundamentally a dissolution of Marxism as a “science” or useful school of analysis. You can’t have Marxism where the revolutionary potential is in a historically declining class. The actual conclusion of that thinking is that Capitalism is in fact the final and most advanced form of socioeconomic organization.
Personally I think the positive path away from this thinking is to review Sorel’s works and try to incorporate some “idealist” currents into a reformed Socialist movement. It’s better than giving into this obvious primitivism, in my opinion.
>>2733098>>2733116gulp
yikes
this marxism sounds problematic
i guess i'll go be liberal now
>>2733098>>2733116This is why Lenin loved Marx so much. Lenin was a Russian who understood that Russia was the most reactionary nation. That is why burger communists must be revolutionary defeatists like Lenin. Because we are the chud Reich like Russia once was.
I think it's funny how Marx is basically a Jesus figure to most of you it seems. Just like with Jesus, most of you are more concerned with him as an idol than what he said. Truthfully, most of the people here who claim to be hardcore Marxists are more in line with Bakunin than Marx.
>>2733422>Personally I think the positive path away from this thinking is to review Sorel’s works and try to incorporate some “idealist” currents into a reformed Socialist movement. It’s better than giving into this obvious primitivism, in my opinion.I don't know what you mean by "idealism." I started reading Reflections on Violence and I've been meaning to share this bit I found interesting.
https://files.libcom.org/files/Sorel-Reflections-on-Violence-ed-Jennings.pdf>Much more am I prevented from becoming the founder of a school; 3 but is that really a great misfortune? Disciples have nearly always exercised a pernicious influence upon the thought of him they call their master, and he in turn has often believed himself obliged to follow them. There is no doubt that for Marx it was a real disaster to have been transformed into the leader of a sect by his young enthusiasts; he would have produced much more useful work had he not become the slave of the Marxists.>>2733437Trump and Netanyahu?
No. Every single human being on USAnian and Israeli clay is guilty of these murders.
Yes this includes muh poor latino
willing slaves workerinos, muh poor Arab
kkkkollaborators Muslims having Israeli citizenship.
Their appetite for treats did this. They are guilty. You are a murderer, anon.
>>2733422You will engage in pointless ragebaiting nonsense but you will not push for the dismantlement of NATO within you """""Communist""""" Party.
Joe Sims killed Khamenei and you ate his flesh.
>>2733458not everyone can go to the gala at the met you fucking snob
>>2733458>in the Soviet Union they had bread linesMeanwhile in America every 3 years
>>2733463I can't imagine waiting in line that long for a fucking McDonald's lmao
I'm sure this was many a Soviet citizen's first taste of "the Western propaganda is a lie." What gets me is that there are people STILL falling for the lies even today. I bet you could go to Cuba right now and find a good number of people who believe a significant number of obvious American lies. It has been a trip seeing people high on American lies go out in the streets to celebrate the coming on endless prosperity and then getting shocked when the thing that was obviously going to happen happens. Like the Alawites in Syria celebrating in the streets at the defeat of Assad and their subsequent shock that it didn't mean freedom and burgers every day, but rather a slow genocide by the new government.
>>2732374He's also a pedo. Look around, this guy tried to groom a girl he thought was fifteen.
>>2732374Who is Jake Lang?
>>2733456So Sorel and, funnily enough, Giovanni Gentile both argued at different points that there was an "idealist" undercurrent in Marx that was basically stamped out by a rigidly dogmatic interpretation of Marxism that was popularized after his death. In some sense, part of their philosophical inquiry was trying to recapture this kind of systematic "idealism" in Marx.
Things like Sorel's concept of myth was, in part, a marrying of idealism to materialism. It's not so much that he's saying "ideals transcend material conditions" so much as myths inspire men to make them real. An example would be that you wouldn't have these dedicated Christian martyrs and early saints if they didn't
genuinely believe on their part that they were in the end of days and Jesus was going to return. It was that foundational myth that spurred them to "Christianize" Rome.
>>2733512So, idealism is correct you say?
>>2733512I mean, to be truthful, the whole "idealism" "materialism" "utopian" and all that element of "Marxism" always struck me as a lot of nonsense. It seems to me that for Marx it was always about:
>These people claim they will bring peace on Earth yadda yadda, but their plan is just wishcrafting and such>I actually have a practical plan to make it happen!I agree in general with this line of thinking but I think that sticking dogmatically to Marx is just the very thing he's criticizing.
I think that revolution and etc. is inherently "idealistic." From a "materialist" perspective I.E. what will most benefit me as the individual, playing the game, being a part of the system is obviously the most logical material path. Being a revolutionary is inherently idealistic. We can pick like any point in our history and ask ourselves with 20/20 hindsight, would it more materially benefit me to play the game and rise up in the capitalist system or to fight against it? The answer is always it would be more materially beneficial to "sell out" as it were. Even for Marx himself.
I feel like this obsession with "facts don't care about your feelings" has been one of the greatest "contradictions" of Marxism.
>>2733505Right Wing influencer, pretty much a Nazi.
>>2733518Nope. Closest to what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be totally absent from a political movement or you end up with this thing that can't inspire or mobilize people to action.
>>2733519What does it matter if he is israeli?
>>2733522Was there anything idealistic about the 8 hour work day demand, for example?
>>2733523If he wasn't working for them to generate anti Muslim sentiment and undermine American politics it likely wouldn't matter.
>>2733525What american politics?
>>2733526Don't worry about it. He's done after he got busted trying to groom a minor.
>>2732824>He even showed his internal bruisinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Out_%28Reich%29<Come Out is a 1966 piece by American composer Steve Reich. Reich was asked to edit down tape footage into a form of collage for a benefit for the Harlem Six and Come Out was a byproduct of the collage's production. The Harlem Six were six black youths arrested for a murder of Margit Sugar, a Hungarian refugee, in Harlem in the weeks following the Little Fruit Stand Riot of 1964. Only one of the six was responsible while the lead witness is generally considered the actual perpetrator. Truman Nelson, a civil rights activist and New Yorker who had asked Reich to compose a sound collage that was separate from Come Out, gave him a collection of tapes with recorded voices to use as source material. Nelson agreed to give Reich creative freedom with the tapes that he presented him for the sound collage. Come Out was a loop of four seconds from the more than 70 hours of tapes Nelson presented to Reich<Reich eventually used the voice of Daniel Hamm, one of the boys involved in the riots but not responsible for the murder; he was nineteen at the time of the recording. At the beginning of the piece, he says, "I had to, like, open the bruise up, and let some of the bruise blood come out to show them" (alluding to how Hamm had punctured a bruise on his own body to convince police to allow him to receive medical aid). The police had not previously dealt with Hamm's injuries since he did not appear seriously wounded and they had beaten him themselves. This marks the first time that a member of the Five-Percent Nation appeared on a published recording. COME OUT TO SHOW THEM // COME OUT TO SHOW THEM
COME OUT TO SHOW THEM // COME OUT TO SHOW THEM
COME OUT TO SHOW THEM // COME OUT TO SHOW THEM
COME OUT TO SHOW THEM // COME OUT TO SHOW THEM
>>2732916>>2732906>>2732824Mexico hsnt sent anyone in the armed forces to fight in a foreign country since 1944 when they sent a squadron of airplanes (201) to the philipines to fight japan
>>2733543The US does allow foreign nationals to fight in our armed services tho and that is a path to citizenship. He could've certainly served in the Mexican army and then in our armed forces as a foreign national although I don't know if that lines up with anon's statements.
>>2733546Although, that calls into question why dude doesn't already have citizenship. But then again, I've been hearing stories on the news for the past whatever years this Trump epoch is I forgot when, but about dudes who were eligible for citizenship on account of fighting in our wars, but then were subsequently locked up for felonies and deported because the dumbasses didn't file the paperwork to become a citizen. Also if the dude is old as he claims and he's been living in the US he could've become a citizen under the Reagan Amnesty program.
Reagan to the left of every single politician since LMAO.
>>2733488Yes. Him being a religious retard does not give your pedo imperialists the right to murder him.
>>2733557He is wholly right and correct in this instance.
I mean, "the right" is rather spooky. In cosmic terms, obviously he is responsible too for the blood of many innocents, let's not kid ourselves. But obviously, this chain of events is creating many more spilt blood of innocents. Does anyone have the "right" to murder him? I dunno. I think he was a fucking retard and we should remember him as such. Maduro was a retard too. Shoulda been hiding out in the undisclosed bunker. Khamenei at least had the vantage point of witnessing Maduro but still…. ok. I know you all say he was close to death and he chose to die on the first day of the current military operation so he wouldn't be available to lead his country in their hour of need…. ok.
>>2733565you can bitch and moan about muh spooks and how 'rights are idealist' but we all see through your reptilian manipulation. you do not care about materialism and the
Real, you only invoke these concepts to whitewash the crimes of your savage empire, because you are terrified of the day that the oppressed of the world hit back at your temple of shit.
>>2733565muduro shoulda this khamenei shoulda that
how about what amerikkkan 'leftists' shoulda do huh?
shank the yank
>>2733576How do you imagine your emotions effect the world? Like has been pointed out you many times, you have admitted there are many shit yank tourists in your country, you have the opportunity to shank them but you won't? Why? Why do you imagine your emotional outbursts from the far corner of the world would motivate us to do anything? You are like gnat.
>>2733578>How do you imagine your emotions effect the worldnobody thinks that
> Why do you imagine your emotional outbursts from the far corner of the world would motivate us to do anythingI am under no illusion that I can compel yo u to do anything other than consooooom and rejoice over the crimes of your empire
i take a few minutes of my day to remind any potential newfags here that you are less than nothing
than a cockroach is worth more than you
you, the yank, are an enemy of all that is good
you have long surpassed the nazi in being a savage
>>2733588You are a pebble, I am the Kilimamjaro.
>>2733706All yanks are Jeffrey Epstein
>>2733098Torn out of context. Marx was talking about Poloids talking about how Russia are not Slavs:
>Ad vocem Poland, I was most interested to read the work by Elias Regnault (the same who wrote the ‘histoire des principautés danubiennes'), ‘La Question Européenne, faussement nommée La Question Polonaise’. I see from it that Lapinski’s dogma that the Great Russians are not Slavs has been advocated on linguistic, historical and ethnographical grounds in all seriousness by Monsieur Duchinski (from Kiev, Professor in Paris); he maintains that the real Muscovites, i.e., inhabitants of the former Grand Duchy of Moscow, were for the most part Mongols or Finns, etc., as was the case in the parts of Russia situated further east and in its south-eastern parts. I see from it at all events that the affair has seriously worried the St Petersburg cabinet (since it would put an end to Panslavism in no uncertain manner). All Russian scholars were called on to give responses and refutations, and these in the event turned out to be terribly weak. The purity of the Great Russian dialect and its connection with Church Slavonic appear to lend more support to the Polish than to the Muscovite view in this debate. During the last Polish insurrection Duchinski was awarded a prize by the National Government for his ‘discoveries’. It has ditto been shown geologically and hydrographically that a great ‘Asiatic’ difference occurs east of the Dnieper, compared with what lies to the west of it, and that (as Murchison has already maintained) the Urals by no means constitute a dividing line. Result as obtained by Duchinski: Russia is a name usurped by the Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders], who must be chased back across the Dnieper, etc. Panslavism in the Russian sense is a cabinet invention, etc. >>2733588>Muh jeetsUtterly spooked by the actual productive proletariet are we again lefty/pol/? Indians actually produce and export steel unlike americans btw :)
>>273345880% of the American 'economy' is literal consumption of imported treats. Trade deficiets are unproletarian just like idpolers like you.
>>2733588holy felted lmao
what does felted mean
>>2733761>sd1.5 image>Israel flag on protester manbased Israeli protester
>>2733904make me, shityank
>>2733946Your island will flood and you will be homeless and forced to move to the Arctic where I and other settlers will fight over land and slaves, you can’t fire a gun with those limp cigarette wrists
>>2733948ah the Platnerists are out of the bushes again, Comrade Felix needs to come back
>>2733950a thousand islands can flood but the opposition to imperialism will continue heroically, ziorat
>>2733951You’re going to harvest my wheat at gunpoint
>>2733956Is he gonna bomb the world cup?
>>2733948 It's possible to blame both at once you know.
>>2733960>Is he gonna bomb the world cup?They'll let/enable diaspora fascists to do a terror attack.
All that tough talk from Chagos will melt once I have a gun to his tiny, deer like skull
>>2733964No one is scared of a tryhard ethiopian drunkard.
>>2733969I’m the misanthropic reactionary factory worker, not the Ethiopian American, I wish him well, I think if we met we might make okay drinking buddies
>>2733964he wants to move to alaska LOL he's gonna get eaten by a bear
>>2733951>Comrade Felix needs to come back (((Iron Felix))) has been busy shitting on the Islamic Republic as it fights the zioplatnerite army his taxes fund.
>>2733754yeah, the maga cultists. man, trump said it, he 'could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters'.
They are that retarded.
>>2733972I’d personally prefer Yukon territory or Siberia for climate change but yeah you gotta carry a .300 Win Mag or a 45-70 to deal with what’s left of polar bears, brown bears don’t usually fuck with you
>>2733971Ah you're the fake factory worker
Fuck you
>>2733975What did he say about Eran?
>>2733978>brown bears don’t usually fuck with youmy guy brown bears attack people all the time. you'd be dumb not to carry bear spray on trails in alaska
>>2733987I literally work in a steel wire factory, how is that fake? We’re small but we ship hundreds of thousands of pounds out to other wire factories
>>2733990You can carry spray, I’m taking the 45-70
>>2733989He's been going on for the past couple weeks about how Iran is being completely destroyed, that America and Israel are attacking it with impunity, the Hormuz blockade will only hurt China, and most of all that this is all the western left's fault because we haven't assassinated Mamdani or sent a truck bomb towards a DSA meeting
>>2733995He is mostly correct. It is the fault of left-imperialists.
>>2733991It is fake because there are no factories in Amerikkka.
>>2733998There are factories in America, about 24% of the American workforce is in manufacturing, they aren’t like factories in history textbooks or the orient where hundreds of employees congregate on the floor. It’s half a dozen people making welds, driving a forklift, changing tags, doing QC tests, babysitting a mostly automated process and walking on concrete
>>2733998It’s fake in the sense that you manufacture something and it goes to another manufacturer and you keep processing the same material back and forth incestuously
>>2733997>zionist right wing aspiring dictator invaded the middle east because of the posters on leftypol who dont agree with meInfantile world view
>>2734003If you dont creat the product your self shirtless like a socialist realism painting you arent in a real factory according to my neet ass
>>2734008I kind of suspect that the steel industry in thr US is a fake money laundering scheme, it’s too cold to do it shirtless rn, give it a month and you might see my fupa
>>2733975I asked if he pays income tax he hasnt denied bro could just exempt and not pay the irs is gutted, but he doesnt have the follow through for that
>>2733995he also said Iran is too weak to be considered even a paper tiger, which is empirically false, thats when I decided he needs to be gulaged
>>2734001why does that 24% love imperialism so much then
>>2734026he is correct thobeit
where did he say all of this? isnt he banned here?
>>2734004left-imperialism is way wider than this dead perverted board
>>2734027Because I’d rather get paid my $24 an hour than 50 cents for the same leg jellying, back breaking work
>>2734029>he is correct no he is not
>wherethe past 5 or so Iran threads
>bannedhe glowposts
Going by the Authentic Aluminum Frederick's own logic, the fact that we're still at war with Iran proves that he himself is "willingly and gleefully" supporting it. I've seen no evidence of armed cadres taking over neighborhoods, no munitions factories sabotaged, not even a single assassination of a four star general. So obviously he's okay with imperialism
>>2733991>Bluetooth, 5G, Starlink, Cell phonesIs it over for wirecels?
>>2734051That’s copper wire, steel wire is used for springs and bucket handles
>>2734043the western left is destined to eternally egg each other on to "do something" but none of them will do it. they are like a bunch of boychildren daring each other to do a stunt that will land them in the hospital
>>2734043yes mr genius you finally understood
>>2734034>moron thinks not being imperialist = 50 cents an hour >>2734080Bro if my employer didn’t rape the third world he would rape me and i would prefer not to be raped
>>2734126you are still getting raped tho
80% of euromerikans are centimillionaires.
the US is seriously considering mandatory military draft. protect the treats.
>>2734167Oh pleeeeeease do, that would start an honest to god civil war. Mister Trump sir harden your heart I promise nothing can possibly go wrong if you instate the draft
>>2733991Your factory is built on stolen land. Your factory uses input stolen from the third world. Your steel is used to kill third worlders. Your product is fascism, so you are fascist nevermind the imperialist illusion of production
>>2733456> Truthfully, most of the people here who claim to be hardcore Marxists are more in line with Bakunin than Marx.>>2734204Everyday. You guys are not Marxists, you're Bakuninites.
marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1849/02/15.htm
>How did it happen that over Texas a war broke out between these two republics, which, according to the moral theory, ought to have been "fraternally united" and "federated", and that, owing to "geographical, commercial and strategical necessities", the "sovereign will" of the American people, supported by the bravery of the American volunteers, shifted the boundaries drawn by nature some hundreds of miles further south? >And will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance? >Truthfully, most of the people here who claim to be hardcore Marxists are more in line with Bakunin than Marx. >>2734215You speak as if your funkopops are some gift to humankind. As if israel bring forth higher era of civilization. You are wrong. The existence of zios like you is fetter on humankind. You are genocidal yanqui zionist and your funkopops are socially and historically unecessary like zios like you
Leftypol.org is even more compromised than 4chan. If you think moot communicating with Jeffrey E was a big deal, wait till you learn who Misato, WVobbly etc are in bed with.
>>2734322Not if you're a doctor or have some other specialized field. Haven't you ever seen M*A*S*H? They're all in their 40s
>>2734341i would say the nerds avoid the front lines but really they're targets for drones and missiles now. It's not 1950 anymore
>>2734341No one under 60 has watched MASH
>>2734299Do they get hired as boy toys for Meloni and Italian fascists?
>>2734292i think grok put me on a list for requesting alysa in a one piece swimsuit I'm so sad>>2734299who are they in bed with? why dont you just tell us instead of trolling?
>>2734349The only times I’ve ever watched MASH was in the waiting rooms of dentist offices and car repair shops
>>2734299>Misato, WVobbly etc are in bed with.Name names of fuck off
>>2734299>coping /pol/ACKi could believe it … i really could… anything is possible… but you have no details. and i don't really give a shit anyway. leftychuds, predditors, 4klanners, lemmynerds, xitterites, libsky users etc. all suck. there's nowhere good on the anglo internet. it's all "compromised" to some extent. I just run my trap wherever I feel like. Maybe one day they'll black bag me over it. who gives a shit.
>>2734353my grandma used to make me watch it with her. I don't remember much or if it is even anti-war.
>>2734366It was on for more than twice as long as the Korean War itself, the later seasons have more stuff with the women and Korean characters, it’s the same liberal anti war bullshit perspective you get in anything
>>2734322>Too old to get drafted yet still a retarded weeb bleak
>>2734403MAGA is threated by Tucker being the "new" republican face of the republican party. He doesn't kowtow to Israel and isn't totally batshit, and his hair is thick unlike Trump's.
They're trying to character assassinate him cause he's too smart to get Kirked.
Note that I do not respect him or agree with him. He's very warmongery when it comes to PRC.
>>2734299Are those the handles of the site jannies?
I don't pay attention to gossip.
>>2733948>The blame actually lies with le president and le generals only, not with innocent murderers like me :')Unbelievable retards here actually defend this guy
>>2734450Alabama not Georgia
>>2734451Actually, I think Platner himself is a leftyanon. He's the one making those posts.
>>2734228Wrong. The zionist says their settlerism is progressive as they are revisionists who rip engels from context only to validate their parasitism. They are wrong because their zionist imperialist existence is greatest fetter upon humankind. Today the euromerikans are the völkerabfälle who will be eradicated. That is why they try to devolve engels into zionist
Did you know that 1 in 4 humans alive today are under US Sanctions? And that US sanctions have killed an estimated 38 million since 1970?
>>2733948prosecute this mass murderer
>>2734467>The zionist says their settlerism is progressive as they are revisionists who rip engels from context only to validate their parasitism. How was the context changed? You were talking about building factories on "stolen land" in America and so was Engels. Are you illiterate?
>>2734204>Your factory is built on stolen land.
<And will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance? >Truthfully, most of the people here who claim to be hardcore Marxists are more in line with Bakunin than Marx. >>2734548>ziggers>miggers4klanners stop using blackness as a template for "le bad" challenge: impossible
>>2734552Can't be racist against imperialists like miggers, ziggers wiggers and zoggers
>>2734548>MiggersRepublikaiks
>piggersCop kaiks
> ziggers russian saboteurs
>wiggersAlbino kaiks
>zoggersChristkaiks
>>2734552complaining about the use of "miggers" being le racist seems a bit pointless given where we're at as a society today, with everything on the verge of collapse at any moment. but hey, priorities I guess.
never met a serious leftist who engages in language policing as their primary form of praxis.
>>2734531India has the chance to redeem itself on the world stage.
>>2734580NTA and I generally agree re:language but I don't want leftypol's identity to be destroyed by /pol/ tourists (which is already a major problem).
>>2734548Cars are bourgeois though
>>2734588true but I think we should take advantage of whatever opportunities we have to push our own beliefs instead of worrying about the enemy's beliefs infecting us. like, if you're constantly afraid of poltard infiltration you'll never get anywhere. poltards are always gonna be around.
>>2734580Funny how you guys will go um
>Stop language policing uyghur and faggot! That's chan cultureBut the second anyone says something as tame as ZOG you guys throw a shitfit and go MODS BAN THIS CHUD NAOW!
>>2734503It's time to train muay thai and brazilian jiu jitsu LARPERS.
>>2734601This board was founded on zionism and will die when Israel does
>>2734531Inb4 she gets a disease from frenching a dog and dies
>>2734542Wrong. Engels was talking about colonialism when it had progressive quality. You believe colonialism is still progressive in contradiction to all scientific socialism. You say zionism is progressive. You say palestinian land wasnt stolen. You are zionist. If israeli land is stolen, then amerikan land is stolen. If israel must be destroyed, amerika must be destroyed. Ziomerikan and zioraeli are the same. All scientific socialists agree on this. You object out of principal for you are genocidal zioyankoid settler. That is why you are a zionist. Again you spam engels devoid of context, demanding i demonstrate how the modern israeli or euroamerikan settler is different.
>>2734619You’re going to be my slave
>>2734167They haven't even put boots on the ground
>>2734601>>2734606mods permaban those okkkhrana agents
>>2734619Out of curiosity, what country are you from, anon?
>>2734624You’re going to be my slave
>>2734619>Engels was talking about colonialism when it had progressive qualityYeah, that's when the stolen land was stolen that the factory you are talking about is built on. Are you actually mentally retarded?
Or maybe we can accept Marx and Engels were wrong and start over
>>2734601ZOG actually displaces responsibility for amerikkkan crimes away from the yanqui apes tho that's why it's bad, also it's pol tier retardation
>>2734635You say your israeli funkopop factories are progress. You are wrong. Colonialism has no progressive quality today
>>2734644The funkopop factories are in china
>>2734642You wouldn't get it because you're Indian.
>>2734642trvke
zog enthusiasts are just people who desperately want to pretend america would be a good perfect nation, if not for those evil zionists corrupting our hecking wholesome politicians
>>2734601ermmm, you like when one thing is said but dislike when another thing is said. hypocrite much? 🤓☝️
>>2734651Weak rebuttal tbh, you could have at least called me jewish
>>2734654It's pretty standard retarded reactoid behavior
Jews killed 60,000 Christians in an event. Persians had to step in and protect the Christians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamilla_Poolhttps://www.jpost.com/local-israel/in-jerusalem/article-14894Following the Persian capture of Jerusalem from the Byzantines in 614, tens of thousands of Christians were massacred by Jews at the pool.[16][17][18] Israeli archaeologist Ronny Reich estimates a death toll of 60,000 people before the Persian authorities put an end to the killing.[19]
The eyewitness account of Strategius of St. Sabas narrates: "Jews ransomed the Christians from the hands of the Persian soldiers for good money, and slaughtered them with great joy at Mamilla Pool, and it ran with blood."[19] The Sulha al-Quds, the treaty of Jerusalem's capitulation to Muslim forces in 638, can only be understood in the context of the massacre at Mamilla. In it, the Christian Patriarch Sophronius of Jerusalem required that the Arab ruler Umar protect the people of Jerusalem from the Jews.[19]
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/what-we-choose-to-remember-jerusalem-in-world-histhttps://palestine.mei.columbia.edu/event-extras/2017/5/22/the-case-of-the-mamilla-cemetery-delgitimization-or-desecration>>2734606More like founded on White people sensibilities which are all based around hating Blacks and worshipping Jews.
Never once seen these people call someone /pol/ for hating Blacks.
They always entertain those types and just go:
>look, I dislike Blacks as much as the next guy but don't you think you're being a little extreme? >>2734663Yet your mom still lets me fuck her ass daily, and you watch jerking off in a closet. What's up with that?
>>2734668having another melty?
Had some young dudes at work ask me what the likelihood of the draft is. Some boomer libs I know who’ve been lifelong “see the best in people” said Iran and Cuba should just start bombing the White House. I think everything that’s going on has people scared.
>Some boomer libs I know who’ve been lifelong “see the best in people” said Iran and Cuba should just start bombing the White House
It's all coming together
>I think everything that’s going on has people scared. :(((
Why are you like this CPUSAanon? Even your boomer lib Yanqui coworkers are cooler and more radical than you
>>2734678you live in cali right
i had someone at the mall I work at talk to me about Trump's planned falseflag in cali and we both agreed that it would backfire and our state would join Iran's side in the war if it came down to it lol.
>>2734637Engels was always right. But now the Yanks' time has come. The lazy yanks and zios will be sent back and the energetic revolutionary people will take over.
It is the revisionist genocidal yankoids who twist his teachings only to justify their funkopop who are wrong. Euroamerikans and zio völkerabfälle will be eliminated in coming revolutionary storm, as engels explained.
>The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward >>2734650>The funkopop factories are in chinaAlso communist Vietnam.
>>2734644God you are such a retarded faggot.
>>2733991>I literally work in a steel wire factory, how is that fake?>>2734204>Your factory is built on stolen land>>2734225> funkopops>>2734644>funkopopI think you were mentally raped by 2010s /pol/
>>2734642>responsibilityspooky
>>2734694Oops missed a funkopop:
>>2734689>funkopop >>2734680My man the coworker asking me is still young and he was visibly nervous at the prospect of war.
>>2734681Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump tries some Northwoods shit in a blue state in a desperate desire to get some “rally round the flag” thing. And I think the only real result would be people despising him even more. People would be more liable to believe he’d bomb us over Iran, and any “national unity” would be undermined by him fundamentally being a partisan hack and MAGA visibly celebrating a bunch of dead Californians.
One of the main contradictions coming out is that people’s brains and attention spans turned to oatmeal is you can’t have an effective consent manufacturing machine
>>2734696I mean it in the practical sense dumbass
>>2734704what is its practical sense?
>>2734699There was some Netflix show I think Chapo reviewed where the premise was US politicians fake a terrorist attack to get rid of the “radical right and left” and let the sensible center take hold, they pointed out in the review that at this point anyone who thinks a terrorist attack could end partisan politics is retarded.
It’s even more retarded in this case cause 9/11 at least had the appearance of coming out of nowhere for most Americans. Western politicos can only react to Iran’s actions by parroting the “this is unprovoked” soundbite when it doesn’t even make sense to.
>>2734698>My man the coworker asking me is still young and he was visibly nervous at the prospect of war.You're saying it like its a bad thing. He should be scared, he should be angry
Epstein test
>>2734709As in they are the ones doing/causing the crimes
>>2734711Just as the monoculture has been broken up, do has the monopolitic, the issue is the political superstructure is so backward and the duoparty is locked in no matter how unpopular it becomes. Eventually the outright military coup is gonna need to happen.
>>2734650Good point. I say funkopop as colloquialism for treat but The funkopop has since been socialized, and ceased being a treat, demonstrating the unproductive nature of colonialism and incorrectness of the genocidal revisionists. the yanks support israel for blood diamond, computer sticks, and microchip
the worker's funko pop
>>2734698>prospect of war.Wrong. There is no prospect. Yanks are perpetually at war with the entire third world. Epstein fury was set into motion long ago, aided by your party.
>>2733991>literally work in a steel wire factoryzero productive labor exported by said factory, you are an american zionist military asset that should be banned.
>>2734836Why do you just pick words at random? I know English isn't your first language but maybe a dictionary could help you
>>2734867>Why do you just pick words at random?I know you haven't read das capital but maybe marxists.org may help you understand what the simple terms 'productive' and 'export' means in your own language.
Absolutely embarassing. 21℅ of americans are functionally illiterate and you seem to be one of them.
When will leftism be cool again, I am sick of all these god damn streamers. Hell I would just take ecelebs being as hated as actual celebrities are.
>>2734872what part of producing steel wire isn't productive?
>>2734165Human shields, the lot of them.
Shame on those Zionazoids for hiding their terrorist organization recruitment, behind children.
(They have taken their website down for the moment, but people were finding their IDF events and Zionazism before, some archives remain.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20241211134306/https://www.temple-israel.org/israelhttps://xcancel.com/TempleIsraelMI/status/1882790691467571268#mhttps://xcancel.com/TempleIsraelMI/search?f=tweets&q=IDF >>2734897>what part of producing steel wire isn't productive?<zero productive labor exported by said factory.<An export is a good or service produced in one country and sold to another Said steel is just an asset for the zionist project and objectively not productive to greater human civilization. Nobody but the us military benefits from said 'labor', therefore its unproductive.
>>2734897The steel wire is made into razor wire for ice camps. You are a fascist
>>2734909So it is productive, got it
>>2734450>zionist psyop on the right<zionist psyop on the lefthe's correct but not for the reason he thinks he is
>>2734914>>2734917<less than 10 percent of american steel wire my fucking sides. im sure all of those nation states are happy that 90 percent of the steel wire went to closing the strait.
>>2734922Which nation states? Why should I care if they are happy or not?
>>2734914>Which nation states? >>2734926<Why should I care if they are happy or not?zero productive labor exported overall.
>>2734916i thought ice was good for attacking gusanos
>>2734929
not even trying at this point.
<A Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation (DFARS) clause requires that any specialty metal (including wire) in major military items like ships, aircraft, and vehicles must be melted or produced in the U.S. .
>>2734931ICE is only good for having the lumpenproles out themselves
>>2734934I know English literacy isn't your strong suit but let's see if we can turn this into a teachable moment:
>>2734929>It doesn’t even go to the military, it just goes to other steel wire factories in the US and occasionally India passed back and forth like vid relatedThis anon is saying that the wire produced at the factory he works at doesn't go to the military.
>>2734934<A Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation (DFARS) clause requires that any specialty metal (including wire) in major military items like ships, aircraft, and vehicles must be melted or produced in the U.S. .This says that all wire used by the military must be sourced from the USA.
Now let's see if you can use basic logic to find out how the two statements don't contradict each other.
I give you permission to use an LLM to help you with this task if you still find yourself stumped.
>>2734941
>This anon is saying that the wire produced at the factory he works at doesn't go to the military.
Does he have a source for it or does he just feel that it does? Because all sources say that it does inetivably, therefore basic logic says I should trust the latter not the former.
>>2734942
>And firefighters work for the government, who care? If socialism is possible my job would still exist
socialism doesnt need unproductive labor such as yourself to exist thankfully.
>I know English literacy isn't your strong suit but let's see if we can turn this into a teachable moment:
Strawmen aren't a valid arguement.
>>2734947what fucking "sources"
>>2734951>Some of the other factories likely have military contracts, but there’s also civilianso it is going to the military after all.
>>2734952>steel wire has civilian usemaybe a minority of that 10 percent which is being exported of it is.
>>2734953>what fucking "sources"<A Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation (DFARS) clause requires that any specialty metal (including wire) in major military items like ships, aircraft, and vehicles must be melted or produced in the U.S. and
>>2734951>>>zero productive labor exported overall.
>>2734968
>>Nobody but the us military benefits from said 'labor', therefore its unproductive.
>>>zero productive labor exported overall.
>>2733296I'm getting so blackpilled over this shit.
The fact that the absolute worst Americans keep getting power has to be intentional right? Like the billionaire capitalists intentionally find the biggest scumbags in order to demoralize us.
>>2734956
<A Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation (DFARS) clause requires that any specialty metal (including wire) in major military items like ships, aircraft, and vehicles must be melted or produced in the U.S.how is this a source? do you mean to say the only production that happens in the US is stuff that goes into the military when the military specifies it? proof?
>>2734977>do you mean to say the only production that happens in the US is stuff that goes into the military when the military specifies it? proof?<A Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation (DFARS) clause requires that any specialty metal (including wire) in major military items like ships, aircraft, and vehicles must be melted or produced in the U.S. .>>This says that all wire used by the military must be sourced from the USA.also
>>2734951 admits that it does or is inetivably scrapped
>>2734982>>>This says that all wire used by the military must be sourced from the USA.does this say
>all wire sourced in the USA must be used by the military?
>>2734980All of this is so transparent and yet we're supposed to act surprised by it because the "opposition" is manufactured and retarded.
I'm getting to the "burn it all down" phase real fast.
>>2734986>also >>2734951 admits that it does or is inetivably scrappedmy original point which i doubt you understand is
>>>zero productive labor exported overall when the us military sets humanity back another twenty years every single day.
>>2734986General law of imperialism dictates that the fusion of consumer and military market renders distinction between consumer and military goods dissolved
>>2734992The vast majority of Americans have so little control over the reins of power, even compared to just 20 years ago, that they can just do whatever. They don't NEED to manufacture consent anymore, because they don't need our consent. They can just do it and tell us to get fucked. They rely on us being completely powerless and cucked.
>>2734992honestly it's tiem to just start murdering people who support this government even verbally.
>>2734997
Taxes get withdrawn automatically from most people's paychecks, you don't consent to taxes.
and no we can't all just not work or go innawoods or start up cash-only drug empires
>>2734678>Some boomer libs I know who’ve been lifelong “see the best in people” said Iran and Cuba should just start bombing the White House.I've heard this too. I think this is a boomer lib meme going around. Meanwhile the other side is just fuck yeah, Top Gun, bombs, missiles, F-22s, 'merica.
>>2734680>It's all coming togetherThey can't really do anything though.
>>2735010
a full third of this country will rather engage and fully openly support the most depraved and heinous shit humanity has to offer than ever, ever, ever back down.
>>2734992These people seem to think that every aspect and tool of imperialism other than dropping bombs on people is woke and gay. Cultural imperialism? Gay. USAID? Gay. Propaganda? Gay.
>>2735021
anime proportions
>>2734992why bother with something more elaborated? in 2001 they put a race traitor with a vial flask filled with mud in a UNSC meeting to say that the undeniable evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was dancing on and around the tip of that lapdog's fingers. and what did the US public do? nato's public?
nuthin'.
>>2734994all 340 million of you need to stop going to work NOW
>>2735050
loot the grocery stores NOW
do a rent strike at the same time. just stop paying rent. EVERYONE STOP PAYING RENT AND STOP GOING TO WORK
JUST DO IT
>>2735048
If you're unwilling to go to jail why should anyone listen to you though? No movement in history has ever been successful without self-sacrifice. I'm not saying we should all kill ourselves for Palestine but the reason Americans fail to accomplish anything is due to being tricked into thinking they can save the world without risking anything. You can't. All progress requires sacrifice. If you're unwilling to sacrifice just move out of the way tbh. Tired of libs ruining movements by inserting themselves into leadership positions and then refusing to do anything that might upset the status quo.
>>2734874They sending her to gitmo 💔
>>2734580>muh language policingyou can say whatever you want, and i can call it reactionary
>>2735054>If you're unwilling to sacrifice just move out of the way tbhwhat are you willing to sacrifice
>>2734299Leftypol admins are Peter Thiel's sex slaves
>>2735060My Yu Gi Oh deck
>>2734299> wait till you learn who Misato, WVobbly etc are in bed with.Two words:
MOD POLYCULE >>2733296tbh I think that was just Trump salivating with barely contained lust towards that strapping young gentleman
>>2735086I remember some press conference with Putin and some American journalist asked him like:
>What should Americans who are sympathetic to Russia do?Or something to that effect and his response was like:
>Support your own countryI'm not getting the phrasing exactly right and it would be hard for me to find this clip. But that's how everyone looks at it. A backstabber will never be trusted or respected.
>>2734992Good to know this war is just a really elaborate thought experiment. Or, put differently, based off a fantasy
>>2734992>the US just ragebaited a country until it made itself look like the "bad guy" to first world normie mouthbreathers.it all makes so much sense
>>2735051in like 2 to 3 months you wont need to demand these things from anyone lol
>>2734619>Ziomerikan and zioraeli are the same>>2734215>give the world trade a new direction>You guys are not Marxists, you're Bakuninites. Bakunin was infamously canceled by Marxists for being redpilled about the Jeffrey Epstein class of finance globalists who trade children in the World Trade Center
>>2735054the issue is none of it has gone anywhere with or without sacrifice.
>>2735180It hasn’t gone anywhere mainly because 99.5% aren’t doing anything. And protesting with a sign that says “Trump sucks” also counts as nothing, by the way.
>>2733422Sorelianism is French Strasserism so it's not a surprise you would like it.
Good morning dearest American leftists
I wish you all the best and endless victories
>>2735189Correct. """"C""""PUSAnon does not hide his Strasserism anymore. Soon, he will come out as a full fascist like Pierre Tru-Dank (another darling of the mods)
>>2735189>>2735197Can you fellas just not? I'm really tired people and I'm trying to hold my tongue. Leave my boy alone. You wouldn't be on the same shit if me you him and what not were in person.
>>2735220
>But when this guy gets revenge, he's considered a monster
You mean he’a framed as a monster by the media. As for the general population, you must either be a Zionist or the most neutered and ignorant type of liberal to think that.
>>2735220
That wasnt a revenge. He just wanted le catharsis. Or this is le false flag or some shit
>>2735197just shut the fuck up lead fred
>>2735233
Because, uhh… it just wasnt okay chud!?
>>2735220
how about they're both monsters?
>>2735220
Why didn’t he go for an Israeli consulate instead?
>>2735231
When I said “you” I didn’t mean you personally but a hypothetical person. It’s either a Zionist or a neutered ignorant liberal who thinks he’s a monster.
>>2735283Permaban this guy unironically
>>2735287I have a lot of IPs. I ain't never said I'm going to canoe you but you know.
>>2735273
yes actually, shooting a bunch of people praying is bad no matter who does it
>>2735293critical support to shooting religious people like dogs
>>2735296But what about you first?
>>2735296>total prole deathMods ban this man.
>>2735296you support baruch goldstein shooting palestinians in a mosque?
>>2735283I was on my pirogue before your goons showed up and started shooting at me ya facking shityank
>>2735296Why do you hate religious people?
>>2735340he's a false flag glowuyghur
>>2735276They’ve been purposely doing shit at synagogues, so maybe that’s why.
Otherwise, I’m feeling false flag. The motive is going to be pretty flunky when, as you said, there are better targets. As a matter of fact, a few months ago two Israeli embassy worker were killed. Despite zionist attempts to garner sympathy from the incident, nothing came of it. So there is precedence for hitting better Israeli targets. And I find it hard to believe that the individual involved in this would not know the consequences of their actions.
Plus, it’s not the first time Israel pulled off something like this. Israel using faces is nothing new. And it reeks of the usual glowie mass shooter op.
>>2735293>shooting a bunch of people praying is bad if you don't want this to happen then you need to stop synagogues from being used to raise money for the IDF, retard
>>2735186Khamenei looked good for 43 in that video
>>2735276Most American synagogues are just Israeli consulates basically.
Remember when Zionists accused every single mosque in America of being a recruiting facility for ISIS? Yeah that's actually true for Zionists.
>>2734126The honest american is backkk
>>2735717i'm convinced this entire board is one schizo baiting himself on VPN. I know this because it's me. I'm the schizo. I'm literally 100% of posts on leftypol.org… except the illegal ones w/ CP that get removed. those aren't me. those are /pol/ raiders.
>>2735717Shut up, dishonest (i.e. regular) American!
>>2735683I think the only place in the us with openly anti-zionist synagogues is minneapolis
>>2735547>And I find it hard to believe that the individual involved in this would not know the consequences of their actions.I don't find that hard to believe.
>The motive is going to be pretty flunky when, as you said, there are better targets. It's a matter of collective identities and collective punishments. Solidarity is built around collective agency, and there are different candidates which have emerged over the past few centuries to define who the "we" are (which doesn't include "them" though), and one of the most successful variants of this has been nationalism, which hasn't really been that wonderful. But people often think in these terms, so actions of governments are often conflated with the actions of everyone they govern, like this is /USApol/ and people come in to rhetorically attack Amerikkkans in general every day because "we" bombed Iran, like me and Pete Hegseth are the same person. But we Amerikkkans are not living in isolation either, we are interdependent, social creatures, so maybe we only have ourselves to blame.
The guy who attacked the Jewish temple in Michigan possibly had family members killed by the Israeli military in Lebanon. People especially tend to feel special moral obligations to their family members, which is why they're more likely to take them in if they need a place to stay than someone from Poland taking in a million Arab refugees who share a different ethnicity and nationality. If one's family members are killed, it can feel really personal, and it's possible he wanted revenge, and the Israeli military is Jewish (mostly) so he went after a Jewish target in his area, because after all "their" side did the same thing so he tried to kill "them." It's called "Temple Israel" and flies an Israeli flag out front.
Israel meanwhile is bombarding southern Lebanon and forcing the population to flee en masse. The Israelis try to attentuate their stated reasons but many of them make it obvious what they really think by approving mass expulsion of entire populations, or leveling Gaza. "Jewishness" is also a collective identity so if Israelis are attacked in Israel, a lot of Jews in America think they (or "we") were attacked, even if they were on the other side of the world when the whole thing happened, which is part of how they survive as "Jews," although that's also why people are trying to kill them, which is something they're very aware of and prepare for, and why the attack was not successful.
>>2735233
>revenge
revenge = killing the people that did it, not randos
<but muh collective guilt hypothesis
porky is thrilled by this. getting prolecucks to believe in collective guilt of entire societies is how they continually succeed in sending one half of the working class to kill the other.
>>2735774>It's called "Temple Israel" and flies an Israeli flag out front.If Zionists claim that an attack on Israel is an attack on Jews then surely they can't be surprised when people treat attacking Jews as a way to attack Israel. They can't continue to claim some special and inherent connection to Israel while simultaneously insisting that they aren't in any way accountable for its actions. I don't think random attacks on the Jewish diaspora are helpful, productive, or ethical, but clearly this is a target they are painting on their own back through the logic of Zionism.
>>2735185Where has any of it gone since the 1950's though? People who went and put themselves on the line have been just as much a failure as the people who didn't, and that includes the Civil Rights era protests and civil disobedience.
>>2735791Attacks on Chosenites who are almost always Zionists and have extreme in group preference to the point of being a virtual mind hive when enough of them are together in one place is not “random” no matter how many ways you slice it. The children of Moloch consider us goyim collectively guilty by virtue of our existence, why shouldn’t we apply the same principle to them?
>>2735565we heard from the gay nazi flag poster that besent was a alpha power gay? why would he be shaken?
>>2735801You aren't subtle /pol/, its easy to distinguish schizo Nazi shit from a principled materialist analysis of Zionism and how to fight it. Frankly I don't care if Jews all did have a Zionist hivemind (which they don't) there would be zero value in attacking random synagogues or diaspora civilians.
>>2735811>Y-YOU ARENT SUBTLE /POL/!!!!!!!These have to be Langley talking points because despite being a longtime regular I’ve seen this exact phrase thrown around at “antisemitism” at least three times this week
>>2735811>there would be zero value in attacking random synagogues or diaspora civilians.hold up, so you don't think it was justified to attack nazi civilians during WW2?
I don't think what that guy did is the best use of his life(he should've targeted Israelis) but I'm also not gonna criticize someone's response to having their family massacred by a genocidal fascist state. Not to mention all those Jews were American citizens paying taxes to the American war machine so even if we gave them plausible deniability of being zionists you can't even argue they're uninvolved.
>>2733524>idealism>idealisticThe absolute state of leftypol
>>2735814Anybody who unironically talks about worshipping Moloch is a retard with nothing of value to contribute to a Marxist discussion of Zionism.
>>2735821>hold up, so you don't think it was justified to attack nazi civilians during WW2?No, since in addition to the ethical concerns terror bombing has literally never worked, including in WW2.
>>2735828>No, since in addition to the ethical concerns terror bombing has literally never worked, including in WW2.True but the US/Israel are doing it anyway so I just see it as a tit for tat, maintaining the status quo of the conflict. This guy didn't do anything unreasonable by engaging the enemy on their terms. That was also the reasoning for terror bombing Nazis since the Nazis had no problem massacring civilians whenever possible.
>>2735799Soy response
That was the king's family, not randos.
>>2735846Good takes and responses
Kill all left-imperialists and the socialist world republic will appear within 5 years
>>2735791>If Zionists claim that an attack on Israel is an attack on Jews then surely they can't be surprised when people treat attacking Jews as a way to attack Israel. Correct. Also I don't think most are, which is why these locations have people with guns. The guy had to crash his vehicle into the building to gain access and then was killed by people with guns inside.
>>2735801>The children of Moloch consider us goyim collectively guilty by virtue of our existence, why shouldn’t we apply the same principle to them?Well the obvious reply is "who's we, Kemo Sabe?" Like there are more basic conceptual questions about who "we" are that need to be answered before we can define what "our" politics are. We could define that by race and nation, so we're fighting a race war with the Jews, and we define our own side as Goyim. That's one possibility. I don't think it's a very good one.
>>2735806>we heard from the gay nazi flag poster that besent was a alpha power gay? why would he be shaken?I call him a demon queen now but he always talks like that.
>>2736066remember when they said they wouldn't be doing shit against China? no, they want to overstretch themselves more, gaslighting public here and there. never backing down funding for more wars.
>>2735565Trump is so cartoonishly evil lmfao
>>2735515What alegience does he have?
no general strike. no big protests. not even performative twerking in the streets.
Israeli-USAnians love war. they worship death.
>>2736029Lets just say stories of his non-death death have been greatly exasterbated.
>>2736185the only objection Americans have to this war is that it might raise their gas prices and make commodities less affordable.
look at CPUSAnon's "praxis" of putting witty stickers at the gas pumps.
americans don't care if the rest of the world is dying for them (and they FULLY understand that the world is dying for their benefit) they just care that fuel for their F-350 is under $5 a gallon.
>>2736167They look too skinny and not white enough to be south africans
>>2732256not only is this silly for the reasons stated in
>>2732261 and
>>2732604 but also… the keyboard would just drop inputs if they come too fast.
>>2736269see i kept getting mocked but i told you guys i gave up all "treats" years ago because they're bad for you. I started eating the global south diet of rice and beans and shit like that. not only am I way healthier and less fat than the average america, but I save a lot of money and won't have to resent the absence of le treats. thinkin about homsteading too.
>>2736334> I started eating the global south dietNo one tell him
>>2736197Dont you have israel is actaully having all the missles intercepted by elohim posts to do?
>>2736334>against treats>thinking about homesteadinghomesteading is the highest form petit bourgeois decadence
>>2735565I've said it before but thats just Bessent's voice. It's always shaky like that, might be a mild vocal tremor, or like some early onset Parkinson's
>>2736185Doesnt matter because the lazy yanks are being btfo by iran
>>2735774>But people often think in these terms, so actions of governments are often conflated with the actions of everyone they govern, like this is /USApol/ and people come in to rhetorically attack Amerikkkans in general every day because "we" bombed Iran, like me and Pete Hegseth are the same person. Spoken like a true zio. You would say israelis are different from netanyahu. Perhaps, but this doesnt matter. They are zio. You are zio.
>>2736382if i grow my own food how am i a bigger treatler than making the latin american or african grow my food?
>>2736392Theres no way that you can win
>>2736395what if i rent a house and pay a landlord money and grow food in the back yard? because that's what i basically do already
>>2736418Trealer for having money
who cares what these people think all of them who tell us detailes about their lives are treatlers by their own definition >>2736269this has been happening in Brazil for years, you're now hard-pressed to find actual chocolate on supermarkets, it's all "chocolate-flavored" slop
you probably didn't expect the brazilinization of america to be so thorough, eh?
>>2736197>look at CPUSAnon's "praxis" of putting witty stickers at the gas pumps.it's worse, it's paying dues to sustain the extremely cozy lives of literal democratic party leaders, the C in CPUSAnon stands for Cuck.
honkoid status?
>>2736452Can i at least a girl with big booty to sit on my face?
If we are going to be brazil and all?
>>2736463>>2736197As opposed to your praxis of seething on leftypol?
>>2736505Its so fucking over
what type of shit do i need for food. fertilizer gonna fuck everything up. SOMEONE POST LINKS UGHH
>>2735293they were donating to the IDF and IDF soldiers.
>>2736434what kind of jobs is Keith Starmer advertising?
>>2733948>wars of choice"Israel has the right to defend itself against Americans who are Hamas terrorists" - John Fetterman and Graham Platner and Zohran who are all controlled by the exact same Zionist Democratic PR firm
>>2736411
>goes to U.S.
>has to live in a house with American parents
>goes crazy
Hellish resolution but understandable.
>>2733296We need Anthony Joshua to bust his jaw again
>>2736873watch democrats sweep and they still do nothing to prevent trump from establishing a dictatorship
>>2736873As your chart shows, they've always been predicted to take the House in the midterms, that typically happens, that happened in his first term. The won't even take the Senate let alone have a supermajority. So it literally means nothing other than they get to go for the record for Trump impeachments.
Back when they took the House in Trump's first term they went hogwild passing all kinds of progressive legislation because they know the Senate won't pass it. They even passed a bill to legalize Marijauna federally. It's just a dog and pony show.
>>2736948Obviously relying on the Senate to save us is fucking stupid, it shouldn't even exist in the first place.
>>2737017Wait till the strait is fully closed
>>2734678>draftI dunno about the USA but I would bet my right hand that much of NATO, including the USA, is gonna be reinstating mandatory military service. With voluntary recruitment afterwards.
It's just too good a lever to have on society. And, especially on Europe, mandatory service becomes a gateway for privatizing welfare by linking it to the military and sidestepping normal regulations. As well as even more NATO cannibalizing and "free trade" agreements with the excuse of interoperability.
In the end, everyone will have to be an NGO run kleptocracy with obedience to NATO enshrined in the constitution.
>>2737034If you read into how modern counter-insurgency works in relation to modern movements, you learn this isn't simply whining, it's a material fact that needs to be addressed.
>>2737025I don't think they're gone far enough, even now the ADL has some sort of methodologic unsilent weapon related to the God himself, and the more we know about it the more cathartic the "anxiety" we have. Our Engra mods have been hijaked from us and even our constituency have become a mockery of their own self given life.
We took their battle simulation programs, which we made ourselves and they answer with a real and vitural war, what can we expect next some sort of court courting?
And before the Be'nai birth gets involved in this board, lets just we have a guy who is on the inside of their organizm.
Isn't ZIonism just favoritism for the state of Isreal, and could mean anything depending on the person giving such favoritism? Any a lot has changed since the isreal was just a state.
>>2734956are you retarded? steel mesh is in every stucco wall and there are a thousand miles of barbed wire in livestock fences for every mile of border wall. go back to reddit
>>2732252I dunno dude I kinda wonder if those things are comparable like that. My new theory is that in the game of civilization, the modes of production always goes slavery->land->slavery->land->etc.
Like I think that with it comes to having a little bitch ass empire the only thing there really is is systematized people and use-value commodities(which is ultimately land in another form). People are systematized and normalized through structures with coercive power such as slavery, school, phone and a job, and then there’s also just a bunch of useful objects.
You start with a blank slate, the untouched world, and the initial mode of production is slavery, because the only way anyone can expand is through systematizing people to transform land into capital. When Rome collapses, the structures of slavery collapse with it, you have proportionally more capital than people, and so empires are necessarily more concerned with the ownership of land and what it produces than they are with ownership of people because you can’t systemically transform them into useful slaves with violence or the classroom.
After the land grab completes, you’re now in a circumstance where the empires have nothing to do but optimize their slaves. I’m saying that I think that the point of all of this cybertechnological man on the moon progress bullshit is really just to enact forms of control on people and compete slaves between different empires.
I think what the future will hold is more like another land grab situation, but in the other direction, rather than expansive mercantile colonialism as the completion of feudalism and bridge to capitalism, there’s going to be an X that will lead us back into a more land oriented mode of production. Citizens of economic corridors and other serf-like conditions like that. Think like a WW2 Ghetto, a concentration city, maybe even concentration counties.
This is my way of coming out of the closet and telling everyone that I’m now a nihil-communist post-marxist. Read Desert. Read Tiqqun.
>>2734991show me the book where marx said the "general law of imperialism" causes stucco mesh to blow up iranian children
>>2735260Nah, he didn't start it.
>>2736990I like how he said:
>Listen up Donald Trump. Do whatever you want.Like Trump was waiting for his permission to attack Brazil or whatever he's imagining. How do Americans have such a degree of Main Character Syndrome?
>>2737062>The general militarization of the national economy in the imperialist countries led to serious unfavorable consequences. In recent years, the United States has spent about 100 billion dollars on armament and aggression. The products are either used to murder people in the battlefield and destroy social wealth or, if stored away, soon become scrap. They may become “obsolete” before even leaving the plant when new weapons are invented. The militarization of the national economy has brought about strange results: the inflationary expansion of the armament industry and the deflationary contraction of civilian industries. In the past twenty years, the production of guided missiles, aircrafts, and space vehicles in the aeronautics and space industries in the United States has increased its value by six times. On the other hand, the development of civilian industries has been slow. Some industries have had to reduce production. Take the textile industry as an example. The output in 1970 was only 88 percent that of 1950. The policy of aggression and wars pursued by imperialism and the militarization of the national economy led to an immense waste of manpower, goods, and wealth and to great destruction of social wealth. This is a notable feature of the decaying nature of imperialism. This official scientific socialist line. You defy law of imperialism. Basically, the imperialists exist only to consume to rape and to rape to consume. Oroboros. The fusion of consumer military render consumer market complementary to military market and military market complementary to consumer market. The yank builds bombs to steal, to steal to build more bomb. The yank build so many bombs to steal so much that value of consumer decreases with investment into military, supplying treats to the epstein people.
>>2737049It’s the dumbest thing you could say in this situation, by declaring his support for a rapist he killed any sympathy people might have had for him.
>>2737087He thought it was America (the USA) but it was actially America (the continent).
>>2736990What was he being charged with?
>>2737092>You defy law of imperialism.don't you mean "deny" ?
a person can deny a scientific law, but they can't defy it.
>>2737114file name says sexual assualt
>>2737092not the anon you are replying to, and i agree with the quote, but that is not marx. it is from after 1970 based on what is being said in the quote. please share the source because i am interested in reading the rest of it.
>>2737132when did you get out of jail
>>2737138scientific laws cannot be defied. only denied. you can deny gravity, but you cannot defy gravity.
>>2737138thanks for the PDF anon!
prairieland anarchists got got for wearing black bloc and holding "insurrectionary" materiel(zines) after a raid on an ice facility went wrong and they got arrested. rioting and other charges arent new and expected but the main precedent set is the black bloc clothing and possessing insurrectionary materiels. also 3 people snitched despite being a clandestine cell.
>>2737153Notice that there’s all pretense dropped here and he’s just being demanded to apologize for being “anti-Israel.”
We all think he’s getting Corbyn’d but isn’t being anti-Israel the popular position these days? Almost certainly to intensify, not lessen. It’s clear Israel isn’t integrated into turning a tide on public option but on intensifying anger towards them.
>>2737145I have to disagree on two points:
1)This was not an attempted raid, this was a noise demo where they shot fireworks and a pig responding to the scene was shot in self defense.
2)This was not really a clandestine cell, it was at most an affinity group (see the guy charged with moving zines and other people that weren't even there)
But yeah there being that many snitches was disheartening.
Final note:I think this involved some SRA members, let's see how the national affiliates and similar groups fare after this. I sure wish SRA made a statement about the case!
>>2737153>Mamdani condemns his own wife's antizionismPragmatic cuckoldry, don't blow his cover!
>>2733422>>2733512i think that this might be an oversimplification of the concept of myth which sorel describes. to really grasp the myth, we must understand that he is not coming from an either idealistic or materialist metaphysics but rather from the vitalism of bergson. for bergson, intuition is a faculty that we have access to by virtue of being living beings. we are capable of entering into the actual duration of other living things that are existent in reality. i think bergson often gets accused of being an "irrationalist" but he could just as well be characterized as a sort of radical empiricist. what we discover through intuitive sympathy is a deeper unity in whatever process we are observing. one could compare this to the intuition of Eternity that one reaches after doing through all of the different modes of consciousness in hegel's phenomenology, but done in experience rather than by working with meta-stable concepts
now, this radically empiricist dimension is absolutely crucial because it renders thinkable the idea that the myth is not simply something that is in our heads but something that can be found evinced in the world itself. this was the power of the general strike. the myth was manifested and grew in power by the very act of the strike itself. the violence which sorel talks about is a very sublime form of violence, not the literal fact of destruction, but rather the conflict between different forms of life in their synchronous manifestation within a concrete situation ..
i think marxists have committed an error in diagnosing the myth as the origin of fascism and hence have the entire movement be simply dismissed as a sort of irrationalism. as you should know, the fascists very much weren't irrationalists. you just need to read the reasoning of gentile to understand as much. rather, the success of the fascists partly lay from recognizing this myth and actually capitalizing it. in contrast, the italian socialists at the time were reformists who could not match the fervour on the ground. marxists have conflated the tool for the very essence of fascism itself, an error that has been fatal
sorry but this is one of the reasons why i think the acp will end up outcompeting the cpusa in the future. their choice to make community work a routine event shall be absolutely decisive as they will make manifest a pro-social myth that would sell communism to the average reactionary member of the maga base far more effectively than abstract "education". actually, when you think about it, party organization only focused on educating the masses is far more idealist, privileging discourse over action. this is also one of the reasons why christians have been far more effective at actually spreading influence. it is not simply about the preaching of the gospel, in the helping of communities, they evince a christic ideal for people to emulate
maybe you can get your party to take notes on this idk
also i am going to make a large blogpost that talks about this issue as well and will probably post it on /ufo/ or something
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/index.html >>2737145>black blocWhat is the black bloc?
>>2737153>condemning your own wifeOOF
>>2737181>1)This was not an attempted raid, this was a noise demo where they shot fireworks and a pig responding to the scene was shot in self defense. It was a noise demo and they slashed some tires, but I don't suspect that most of the people in the group expected it to go south, or prepared for any of that. Think the guy who shot the cop was an idiot and a hothead. These were not really militants, they had been LARPing for awhile, but were really just leftists that you meet in any of these groups. But the feds wanted to throw the book at the whole group. It's dangerous from multiple directions. On the one hand, there can be leftists who meet up with some people on Discord, and don't know them very well, and there are guns around and it's cosplaying as revolutionaries or whatever, and then one day, one of them mag dumps on a cop out of nowhere. And then everyone in the group has now "materially supported terrorism" because they rode in the same van together.
>2)This was not really a clandestine cell, it was at most an affinity group (see the guy charged with moving zines and other people that weren't even there)Yes
>>2737198a handful of lumpen-hooligans who believe taht randomly smashing some cars and windows will destroy capitalism
>>2737038Europe is openly re-arming and re-instating the draft is the next step in that process, I'm pretty sure Germany is already in talks to do it.
The US pretty clearly laid out it's strategy. They are going to let a newly re-militarized EU take on Russia while they focus everything they have on China. That's probably why they're moving on Iran, to break up the BRICS bloc even furhter, fuck with China's oil supplies and put a dagger in China's belly.
The fact that the Chinese sit and do nothing while this existential threat openly announces itself to them proves that they are the most cucked nation on earth. They need to be leaning into MAXIMAL US containment or they will be destroyed.
>>2737222This is why LARPERS and non-Larpers shouldn't be in "cells" or "affinity groups" with one another. Everyone loves the idea of being armed for self-defense, until they realize one of the people with them, may actually pull their gun out and initiate a firefight if they feel threatened. Everyone likes the idea of a "riot" and "fighting against reactionaries" until they see people face double digit sentences for such acts, as the reactionary individuals get probation. Then it becomes, "well, I didn't mean literally it just feels good, they told me to do this, and told me all this political stuff, ALSO THIS GUY I KNOW MAKES DANGEROUS ZINES HELP ME". Consider an anarchist IWW member was killed by police during trumps first term, in an attempt to sabotage busses at a private immigration detention facility. Police shot him in response, so it's possible this historic fact creates a subconscious fear response to police aggression in situations like this; I could honestly picture a Texas cop drawing a weapon on noise demonstrators that seem "too rowdy close to government property" leading to people in the group "fearing for their lives".
https://ffodwoa.substack.com/p/the-prairieland-defendants-and-us >>2737232wrong. you defy anti imperialism. treatler uses car to get to work at the killing children factory.
>>2737312this is why you need an army instead of little anarchist cells. an army instills discipline in it's members. an army trains it's soldiers to strike when and where the time is right. an army is a professional revolutionary sect, not just some LARPing black blocs trying to sabotage a bus.
an army would have drawn the pigs into an ambush and eliminated them or better yet, shoot their commanders when they're sleeping in bed. the police, just like the army, has officers. none of them have security, and they can be killed/taken as easily as anyone else. nothing a squad of trained infantry couldn't accomplish with ease.
the army is the highest form of and the highest purpose of the party. the entire goal of the party should be to organize an army that can physically confront and destroy the agents of the state, in order to intentionally and deliberately erode the ability of the United States government to continue to enforce it's laws.
>>2737380>these people's intentions did not hold any military aims, and from what I'm seeing, they didn't even hold any major disruptive aimsthat is exactly the problem. you should always have military aims. war and politics are the same thing. lenin was a keen admirer of clausewitz and made reading vom kriege a requirement for all politburo members. there is a reason for that. war is politics, and politics is war.
>>2737401there has to be a crisis to draw the backwards masses into politics. in the absence of a foreign army to create the crisis, like in China, Russia or Vietnam, (thanks to the insulation of the oceans invading the mainland of the US is basically impossible, the supply lines would be far too long) we have to create the crisis ourselves. the party must wage an active campaign of sabotage and assassination in order to create a crisis so acute that the US government is forced to turn it's full attention inwards.
we must, in essence, force the government to show it's true face to the people, to reveal it's fangs. this way their illusions will be broken. they will hate the government for what it does to them.
>>2737392Yes, but it's not their alleged cellular, or decentralized methods that creates the lack of discipline. This weakness of tactics is a common point of failure across organizing barriers in the USA. It's weird to attempt to paint this an example of the "superiority" of traditional, dated, rank and file military formations.
The Leninist army model depended on three material conditions that no longer exist in most Western countries. First, the classical industrial proletariat was concentrated in massive factories and land swaths, where workers shared space daily, developed natural trust, and could be organized through workplace cells. Today's workforce is fragmented across service industries, gig labor, and precarious part-time work, people do not spend decades together on the same shop floor building the kind of organic solidarity that revolutionary organization requires. Second, workers in Lenin's time lived in dense, stable working-class neighborhoods, company housing, tenement districts, peasant land based communities that reproduced themselves across generations. Today's workers are dispersed across sprawling suburbs, cities, and transient rental markets where neighborly trust is harder to build and easier to surveil. Third, universal conscription meant that large portions of the working class had military training and understood how hierarchical command structures function, it was ingrained in the culture of the working class. Today's all-volunteer military draws from a narrow slice of the population, leaving most workers with no experience of organized violence and no framework for understanding how an "army" would even operate. You cannot build exactly what Lenin built because the raw materials, the social relationships, the physical concentrations, the shared experiences no longer exist. You have to build from what is actually here. What you are explaining is basically revolutionary reenactment fantasy.
>>2737425>to create an army, we need a crisis, but to create a crisis we need an army>destroy your treatler standard of living and risk your life getting getting killed by feds or thrown in a burger prison to draw the backwards masses into politicswhatever happened to marxism being about pursuing material interests
>>2737430Most people who claim to use dialectical materialism, just repeat phrases and formulas from the past, and don't hold the ability to properly analyze the modern reality with proper materialism. Instead of learning "math" (dialectical materialism), they learn that 3+3=6, and then expect =6 to be the answer for all future additions. This is how most people "learn" dialectical materialism.
>>2737430climate change means that we either win the war against capitalism (and to be clear, it IS a war, like it or not) within our lifetimes or we're staring down the barrel of human extinction within the next few generations.
we have to move with an urgency now that lenin did not. either we destroy the united states government, or it destroys the world. these are our two options, and we must pick one now.
>>2737445>we have to move with an urgency now that lenin did not.so you are stuck praying for a miracle like a religious person. you are praying a bunch of willing and gleeful collaborator treatlers suddenly become more Leninist than Lenin himself, and go out of their way to risk their lives and create crises to lower their own standard of living despite it not being in their material interests to do so in order to draw the backwards masses into politics, and you admit on top of all this that basically we're out of time and already fucked. Why wouldn't a person just kick back and try to have the best life they possibly can knowing there's no hope. Treatlers won't become Lenins any more than kissed frogs become princesses. You shrink like a vampire in sunlight from this truth.
I used to try to equivocate and find nuance with you people. but what you want is an "honest reactionary" (in your mind) as a punching bag, not someone who agrees with you 90% but has some strategic or ideological differences
>>2737454The party is the vanguard of the class conscious workers, it represents the masses but it is not the masses. The vast majority of workers will never be in the party. Do you know what the literal definition of vanguard is? It's the troops who march at the head of the army and enter.battle first. The role of the vanguard is to lead the masses by both word and deed.
It is to everyone's benefit to destroy capitalism. We have to take the first steps to do so.
>>2737153>Israeli citizens “parasites”very rude, that's just bibi's draft dodging son and every other child of a Israeli consular is, unlike the based draft dodging Itamar Greenberg
>>2737312>I could honestly picture a Texas cop drawing a weapon on noise demonstrators that seem "too rowdy close to government property" leading to people in the group "fearing for their lives". Yeah, especially in that town. I have my spies around the area and can tell you the cops in that specific town are stupid thugs. They're also really fat and run speed traps. It was probably the first time anarchists did anything there since 1897 and now there's a dozen people in a surprise black bloc at midnight, like what the fuck. People in this sort of loose anarchist scene in DFW had been fucked up by Fort Worth cops before, and some of them were armed too and the cops just grabbed them, honestly the whole thing was stupid:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-police-release-video-arrests-antifa-attacks-peaceful-drag-show-protestersBut those are city cops. Some random Alvarado cop shows up he'll be like, oh my God there are ninjas attacking the town.
>>2737392>that is exactly the problem. you should always have military aims. war and politics are the same thing. lenin was a keen admirer of clausewitz and made reading vom kriege a requirement for all politburo members. there is a reason for that. war is politics, and politics is war.You LARP. That's not what Clausewitz said. He said war is the continuation of politics by other means. Politics sets the objectives of war.
>>2737331>the army is the highest form of and the highest purpose of the party.The army is a tool led by a revolutionary working-class party for political purposes.
>>2737941Based. Eternal misery to left-imperialist slavers.
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I’m waiting, ugly macaque
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