The American 'working class' produce zero surplus value through their net nonproductive labor and physically cannot sustain themselves due to deindustrialization. Each and every single lumpen settler owes more than forty trillion in exports to repay their debt to the rest of the planet and survives off the surplus labor of non-americans from Berlin to Siberia. Even ignoring the countless acts of terrorism committed by the burgereich, the consumerism of treats must end. As the pedotariat of epsteinland must work for several years and export to maybe repay even 30 percent of what occupied turtle island owes to the non-american surplus value producing global proletariat.
Any strawman that does not address the largest trade deficit that will ever exist shall be ignored.
52 posts and 17 image replies omitted.>>2741486I do, it feels nice, only because you can do it while beating off
kill op and delete this thread
>>2741485>What? Are India and Turkey parasites? And is Germany an exploited country?an actual contructive comment finally.
The german proletariat's productive labor is exploited in a system developed by the americans for bourgiouse consumerism. Turkey and India are stuck in a cycle of poverty and intentional lumpenization by the same system where american oil monopolies control their means of energy.
>>2741494Donald Cuck is that you?
sned
>>2741494you wont do shit ameripedo.
>>2741504you're really obsessed with calling people that, huh?
>>2741497The USA imports more than it exports. The Statesian capitalists profit off of commodity production for the world market. The Statesian capitalists can charge monopsony rents on imports with imperialist bullshit. None of this has anything directly to do with the working class. Most of the money goes to the oil & gas industry and bullshit like the military-industrial complex. There's an argument workers tend to benefit from low unemployment rates but that's not directly the same as getting cash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_balance_of_trade >>2741522boo hoo a death threat was met with condensation.
>>2741532what's even your point exactly?
>None of this has anything directly to do with the working classit has everything to do with the actual working class produces surplus value and the tapeworms who consume it while producing nothing. This is called class struggle.
Suck my fucking dick
>>2741550>boo hoo a death threat was met with condensation.you need to stop being obsessed with "le ameripedos" and stop being a little bitch, either way your thread violates the rules of the site
>>2741554Hide the thread and let us reasonable ones discuss you epstein people in peace
>>2741554is the phrase epstien's fury also break the rules for antisemitism? I forgot pedo is a trigger word for the average lib on this site instead of the fa-word. thankfully archive.is exists. but the people's class collaboration isnt bannable on leftypol.org with italian anime consumer characteristics.
please see
>>2741553 >>2741550The USA as a whole is just like one of those zombie firms. That has more to do with the falling rate of profit than anything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_company >implying the proletariat has to directly produce value to be considered proletariat
I hate you jewish negros so much it is unreal
>>2741569<The American 'working class' produce zero surplus value through their net nonproductive labor and physically cannot sustain themselves due to deindustrialization. reported for antisemitism :)
>>2741572Get aids and die you jewish negro
>Implying anti-LasSallean posting is anti-semitism >>2741574<LasSalleanthats you unproductive burger flipping socdem
>>2741579>Proletarians have to hekin prodooce to be working class!Kill yourself subhuman
>>2741584humanity differs from animals because they produce productive labor even fuedalists figured that out.
tell your mother that you are a 'nonproductive working class' person, she would regret reproducing instantly.
>>2741588I won't share a tear if Zioamerikkkans bomb your house, as that would be an objective improvement on the global left discourse.
>>2741591>I won't share a tear if Zioamerikkkans bomb your house, as that would be an objective improvement on the global left discourse.bahaha defending your fellow nonproductive animals arent you? most honest socdem is also a zionist.
you will never be a real leftist ᴉuᴉlossnW.
There's a lot here who are huge USA simps. Same as how they simp for American soldiers saying that they are le heckin victims
>>2741594you deserve nothing less
>>2741594I am not reading any more of your subhuman jewish negro drivel.
>>2741599total victory against lefty/pol/pedos? Guess I have what you american cucks will never have.
An exit option.
>>2741609Why are you posting a selfie?
<I am not reading any more of your subhuman jewish negro drivel.
retarded flagposter will respond to this.
This fucking retard thinks you can read an image
This is how subhuman he is
>your bourgeois outsourced your jobs and it's your fault, you owe me money
lol
>>2741632>those that live off the surplus value off others are not proletariat. >more strawmen that does not address the national debt problem.Nobody here wants your epstein money. They want you to do something productive with your life and stop being a burden on humanity instead of being a nonproductive burger flipper.
>>2741267The US has nuclear weapons, you will never force them to do anything. Your fantasies are just that. Internal proletarian revolution is the ONLY way America will ever change.
>>2741759
Wrong. In socialism, all work is productive.
>>2741482Wrong. You just took notes from a 1915 manuscript out of context, whereas Lenin's own writings and those of the Bolsheviks on the self-determination of nations don't reach your moralistic conclusion. I, on the other hand, took a text discussing the labor aristocracy, a type of worker who is a minority group that will try to deceive the workers by collaborating with the bourgeoisie. If they become class traitors, they will try to weaken the workers' movement and co-opt them. This will eventually lead, after bribing these class traitors, to the creation of excuses and illusions for the masses and the workers. This will lead to the loss of labor rights for both native workers and the intensification of imperialist exploitation, giving the bourgeoisie more resources to crush the workers of their own country internally, resulting in all workers losing collectively. Remember that the labor aristocracy would gain along with the other workers if they received concessions from the capitalists and showed solidarity instead of inventing lies to appease the bourgeoisie. You can see this by reading Lenin's text in "Imperialism and the Split in Socialism" from 1916, and these notes you are projecting your resentment against workers in the imperialist core, trying to impose your moralistic interpretation, are not consistent with Lenin's published texts, which were published in their entirety. In contrast, these incomplete notes in a manuscript contradict my own 1916 text, which is more important than yours and was published later. This demonstrates that you are lying, trying to create complacency among workers so they don't follow their class interests, which are shared with workers on the periphery of capitalist imperialism. You believe that reducing anti-imperialism to moralism—feeling sorry for the workers of the Global South and feeling guilty for being a worker of the First World—is an anti-Marxist position. In any case, your interpretation, by contradicting all of Lenin's complete and later texts, which are more important, leads to the conclusion that your argument should be discarded.
Just a reminder that I am a worker from the Global South, so there's no point in you throwing insults at me, because you're probably some resentful member of the imperialist core trying to co-opt the workers into passivity and appease the bourgeoisie, hiding the obligation of all workers to act according to what they have in common with the proletarian class in order to achieve supremacy in the dictatorship of the proletariat and socialize the economy.
>>2742050Wrong. Your walls of cope quickly destroyed by Lenin.
>Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert. This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”Only upper stratum of the labor aristocracy is bribed. Majority of labor aristocrats not directly bribed. They are still imperialist labor aristocrat oppressors and exploiters because they subsist off surplus-value. Amerikans on other hand are peculiarly genocidal and bourgeois, as lenin explained in previous post. You defy Lenin's teachings and your revisionism serve only in effort to veil scope and power of labor aristocracy out of self interest. You are labor aristocrat as you defined. You are epstein.
>>2741636burger flipping is productive actually. It produces surplus values and use values
Nah diddy blud
Proletarian is just a relationship one has with labor. One could make quite a bit of moneny and still be a prole, are you from r/trueanon OP?
circulation is just as important as production; if the US didnt consume things from China, both of them would be broke.
>>2777840This is why I’m anti civilization
>physically cannot sustain themselves due to deindustrialization.
Come say that round here boy, you city folk couldnt make it round real rednecks
OP glows
>Real Proletarian' rhetoric which implies a large percentage of wage workers are not proletarians is banned - per modocracy vote passed on 2024-12-25
Enforce your own rules you retarded transhumanist jannies
>>2778286Mods are allergic to truth
>>2741359>Give back the surplus valueWhy are you begging the ruling class to overthrow itself? Haven't you read your own theorists?
>>2741449Thank goodness for me and my class that it takes a lot of effort to listen to you and zero effort to do more moralist revenge fantasy shitposting that divides the class I exploit!
>>2778286Why would they work hard for free? Have you learned nothing?
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