/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Before I start about whole topic of this post I would like to point out that this post mainly focus on Communists and not other tendencies among "radical leftism" because their justification may systematically vary and require different approach so I would like to keep it rather focused on concrete mindset in certain group of people.

Alot of people who become Communists today may have different reasons for their radical outlook of current state of things, but what fundamentally may cause for these people even to look critically at current state of things is definetly whole history of struggle between oppressed and oppressing and analysis itself on how even does this struggle effect people's state of being and how we as people can eventually build a movement which does opposse current state of things which as we know dynamically change in this whole history of struggle in name of class intrests.

But how does it even relate to Veganism?

Honestly it does very much relate in contemporary developed states because we live in very unique times where we as people (oppossed to third world countries) can consciously decide between consuming products which are result of animal exploitation and which aren't, but as we know Communism doesn't come from moralist standpoint as I pointed it out in first part of the post, but this fact isn't even about morality (or ethics) itself but it's about our reasoning in first place, we take certain analysis as something true and based on certain methodology we come to conclusion that class dominance (oppression) is something which can and even should be overcome in this whole history of struggle dynamic, but we can argue that slave fighting against laws which impose slavery on them is in their intrest, and we can go even further in Communist analysis that certain classes may share certain intrests in this whole history as for example early bourgeoisie fought against slavery because it was in their intrest, even tho they didn't share their status and conditions in state of things they found theirself.

Modern unconscious proletarians itself doesn't care about things like overthrowing or critiquing current state of things because they mostly lack any class consciousness, but proletarians who are class conscious (communists) should be aware of fact that capitalism doesn't only take advantage of other classes but also of nature itself, I'm not talking about humanity itself fighting against nature for control to ensure their survival but capitalism literally take advantage of natural world for their benefits and destroy our planet slowly for material gains which include exploatition of animals, and here I come to my main point.

Why it is then that Communists consciousslly tend to ignore the fact that Capitalism is also deadly for not only us proletarians but also for nature and animals, alot of Communists take struggle with (proletarian:) LGBTQ+ people, Women and Racial Minorities but how it is that "these" Communists don't care about other forms of exploatition which include animal cruelty and enviromental catastrophe, my point isn't to take it as main case of our struggle (because main scope of communist analysis is CLASS struggle) but i want to point out that even tho we have perfect tool for critique and analysis conditions in which Capitalism take advantage of enviroment and animal lifes for their individual gain yet most of "these" Communists ignore it.

I am aware that Veganism is mainly an ethical choice and problem with some of fanatical Vegans is imposing their values on people which can't or doesn't even have material basis or knownledge to switch to Vegan diet, but most Vegans are against anti-historical and eurocentrict analysis of world, they tend to showcase how people in contemporary states have choice yet they refuse to switch because of societal norms (which are definetly fueled by bourgeoisie in oder to keep their profits) but I see it as something which is (as other forms of social struggles like LGBTQ+ rights, Feminism etc…) rather something rooted in class struggle, alot of Vegans ignore class struggle and alot of Communists ignore how their own tools points out that not only us humans are being exploitated by the current system, yet alot of Communists just look for excuses, my whole post isn't about trying to turn Communism into intersectionality/activism as some of Western Marxists or Post-Modernists tend to, but to bring an debate on why you or other Communists don't care about animal and enviromental exploitation and why we even should in first place.

I think we shouldn't be modern day superheroes which are here to help everyone from everywhere but we should acknownledge that we as people living in developed societies can make a choice which doesn't involve animal exploitation or enviromental decay.


TL;DR

Communists have tools which perfectly showcase how Capitalism doesn't only exploit proletariat but also an animals for profits yet Communists mostly don't care about it, whole point of post is to ask why "you" as Communist (or whatever you align with), don't care about animal exploation in daily life and just look for excuses why you shouldn't switch for vegan diet such.

>As an individual I can't alone change how society continue to exploit animals!!!
<I agree that individuals don't change much as it goes for anything in history including Communism, if you think otherwise with your shitty X interpretation of Communism then you're just an Utopist, this post isn't about changing society through individual decisions but actually discussison about topic of Veganism and Communism.