/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2744732
The tumult in the U.S. in the 1960s had many important and good effects on American society. There was the civil rights movement which was followed by the peace movement. The culture changed. Also the women's movement came out of the 1960s. It didn't change the politics of the country very much but still these things were important. Those cultural changes also produced a reaction and attempts to turn back the clock, and also right-wing governments have caused a lot of economic damage, so the gains from that period were not fully consolidated. Well, it has gone back and forth, it's like economic cycles.

I think these cults emerge from that process. It's like enervation. I think that word fits because it refers to fatigue, being drained of energy, but it's more mental than physical. I was thinking that people join them because they get very involved in movements which are frustrated in some kind of way. This leads to burnout, or people just settle down and become liberals, but there's also some subset of people who double down and join cults led by a Great Leader which provides them a stable point of reference and frees them from having to think for themselves.

What did you expect from a movement composed of western leftists? Certainly not communism I would hope!

>>2744772
Western leftists are suffering until a western revolution. Believe.

good thing nothing like that has happened again

Back in the early aughts RCP was quite strong in my town. They organized massive protests against police brutality and had a substantial base of working class youth from ghetto neighborhoods. In demonstrations they were quite combative. Even their leadership encouraged direct action and confrontation with the pigs. Their "Red Bloc" (black bloc with red bandanas printed with their org logo) was prone to spontaneous collaboration with the black bloc. Lighter tactics, more timid and less prepared but they did their part.
Sure it's a weird cult and the cult of Bob is cringe as fuck but tbh their praxis on the street was a lot better than "more respectable" ML orgs or sucdems that always try to police and pacify direct action in favor of legality.

>>2744808
I came across a picture of them that was probably from around that time and they did look fairly large (well, for one of these groups, more than today) and carrying a lot of energy. Hard to find now because that Trot group rebranded to a similar name which clogs up the search results.

>>2744799
Haz and Hinkle are just figureheads because the ACP realised how important engagement is online.
From what I understand, most people in the ACP don't take them seriously, the main ideological guys in the ACP are Midwestern Marx.
I think Maupin at the CPI more leans to cult-leader style figure.

>>2744837
Who is Maupin

>>2744808
Love their older posters

>>2744837
thats def true wrt to Maupin, also had no idea that Midwestern Marx was in the ACP but it does make sense

Americans have some strange cultural / genetic attraction to cults.
Maybe it's to do with so many of them being the refuse thrown out of Europe in the 1600/1700/1800s for being religious schizos.

>>2744992
Desperate proles tend to have an attraction to low effort slop cults especially. It's not just a yankee thing. RCP tended to attract a lot of inner city blacks and latin@s, not WASPs. But both of those demographics tend to get involved in sects as well. It's fair to say these serve as substitute for the tight knit evangelical/baptist churches they were brought up with. They were smart enough to reject the christian ideology but have an internalized affinity for the underlying patriarchic social structure.

>>2745019
And also a substitute for street gangs like Latin Kings or the Crips.

>>2745065
Indeed. the C.R.I.P.s Community Revolution In Progress/ were actually an offshoot of the Black Panthers tho. It's said they were called "crippled" because they all carried around canes as part of their "uniform" (+black leather jacket and beret).
The Panthers were very cult-like themselves, and come to think of it Bob Avakian's militancy goes back to the time of leading the White Panthers in the rainbow coalition. He's literally White Huey.
When you think about it every organization is a cult.