Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?
I took it back in 2021 (two doses) and I haven't had any known side effects, neither have anyone else I knew who took it. But all the time I hear about how it's causing people to have heart attacks/strokes and it's gonna kill everyone. I'm already a massively paranoid person, I was iffy on the vax when it came out but all I kept hearing was that covid was gonna kill everyone. It's getting to the point where I can't even sleep well because every waking moment, I'm terrified I'm just gonna drop dead.
>>2747173No. You are falling for anti-vax propaganda. Getting COVID is what's dangerous, the vaccine helps you not get COVID. If you get COVID it will leave broken pieces of virus in your body that both clogs your arteries and continues to negative affect you, that's why people report "long COVID". Even getting COVID once is dangerous longterm. So you're better off with the vaccine.
dangerous? we don't know
but it was human experimentation on a massive scale and people 'for the most part' had no say in the matter
>>2747313This, I was in a foreign country at the time and my jab was different from the locals.
I refused and I wasn't allowed to work
>>2747316That is why my horse in this race was the chinese one.
Suck one westoids.
Plus, yeah, in stadistical matters is worse that people get pneumonia and die like fucking dogs in the street because there is no beds with oxigen that 1-5 in a million get a side effect.
>>2747173no.
the fact that neither you, nor anyone you know, has suffered any consequence is proof enough that it was harmless to you.
but in more detail: only two of the vaccines ever had a proven link to an increased risk of heart attacks or strokes (via blood clots) in 2 out of every 100,000 people in the worst case, and 1 out of 500,000 people in the best case. odds are, that's not you. but your odds get better still: because this risk only appeared for younger people, most countries didn't give those vaccines to under 60s. so you probably didn't get that one. (if you got pfizer, for example, you're clear) moreover, if you did get one of those vaccines, and if you are one of those improbably unlucky people, then the odds are still that you would have survived. any adverse reaction would have happened a few weeks after you got the shot, not years later.
tl;dr you're talking about a vanishingly small risk that would, if it was going to get you, have got you by now, and which - even if it applied to you - probably wouldn't have killed you, just hospitalized you. you can chill.
>>2747173No, vaccines are safe an effective.
I've lied to the travel clinic in order to get more vaccines for stuff like Japanese Encephalitis and yellow fever.
>>2747173at the very start when it was a new tech that had never been massively used the question could be had, now its obvious its safe
the problems had much more to do with how the whole process was made to enrich the pharma companies as much as possible rather than doing the most effective thing (shit had to be stored at -60 which made it very harsh logistically especially on poor countries, they didnt waive the patents, the deals were made in the backrooms with lot of obvious corruption etc)
>>2747173Vaxing in general is moderatly safe, because years of development and tests, but many still have lots of side effects. We know the side effects, so we can think about it and then choose to take it or not. The covid vax lacked all these years of development, long term testing and hat lots of side effects. That's the problem. I got my shots too and I reget it.
covid vaccines should be safe and effecive and not consist of lethal side effects, some of them failed this, though
I know Marxist-Leninists who are anti-vaxx, on the basis Germ Theory is undialectical.
>>2747173>Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?no, retard
I got the Chinese vaccine because I wanted a traditional vaccine with a dead virus and not the MRNA stuff. I was counted as "unvaxxed" in my country and basically barred from public life.
So, it was a political decision, not a medical one. So you got a relatively untested vaccine,
for political reasons, and that should raise all alarm bells - no matter if it was dangerous or not as this
>>2747180 anon said. I know plenty of people who got dead sick after they got vaxxed (never got COVID), and I know people who got dead sick because of COVID. Governments won't disclose all the data, so I guess we'll never know.
>>2769696All vaccines are "relatively" untested compared to the most tested vaccines, and if we'd waited 50+ years for more testing there wouldn't be much point in making one anyway. The existence of trade offs is not a conspiracy.
>>2747180> Getting COVID is what's dangerousOnly for 0.001% of people
>>2747173Do you have OCD/schizophrenia? I'm in the process of learning that I've been fooled in my teenage years to be very vigilant of spyware due to schizo/OCD people and pedophiles, when I could be chatting up cuties on social media and shit.
Anyway, all vaccines have side effects. Was this your first time taking vaccines? The chances you die from taking one are as probable as you dying from taking over the counter painkillers or getting into a plane crash.
>>2747180>it will leave broken pieces of virus in your body that both clogs your arteries This absolutely does not happen.
>>2791537The problem with COVID is that it's highly transmissible and has a significant enough lethality rate when scaled to the proportions of the number of infections. It's highly unlikely that (You) would die from it or have one of those nasty after effects, but someone or some people you know will get fucked up and either everyone takes the vaccine or we just let old, sick, poor, and unlucky people get fucked. Of course this is an imageboard so I don't expect you to give a shit about others but obviously no sane government would let this happen unchecked.
>>2791602Why should anyone care about the sick, old, and poor again?
>>2791607It's not a matter of who you care about, lib. It's about not having your country's workforce sick.
>>2791608If they’re so weak they get sick and can’t come to work they weren’t adding any value anyway
>Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?
Can you link any of these fucking people? How is anyone supposed to answer this question without knowing what specifically you're talking about?
Like, there are all kinds of people that say it's dangerous, from the actually informed saying "there's a non-negligible danger of myocarditis and other complications but you should be fine" to the nutcases saying "there's a 100% danger of your dna being rewritten by the computer chips they put in the vaccine!"
This thread is full of morons just giving their own opinions or anecdotal experience.
Look at actual real peer reviewed studies.
According to an analysis of the studies on damage done by Covid-19 vaccines, yes, people have been injured or killed due to heart injuries induced at least in part by the vaccines.
But the fact is these cases are also so extremely rare, that there is still overall a massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.
The range of figures when for those killed by the vaccines varies by study, from 0.3 people per 1 million, to 5 people per 1 million.
Meanwhile Covid-19 was killing between roughly 800 per 1 million and 1,200 per 1 million, depending on the source.
The UK government has produced more specific data - 227,000 Brits died from Covid-19 itself, and 63 people died at least in part due to the effects of a Covid vaccine.
>>2791665The scientists investigated themselves and said it was scientific, wow
>>2791665>look at actual real peer reviewed studies>doesn't link anyhmm
You are almost certainly looking at self-reported data that links any and all deaths to recent covid vaccinations.
>>2791665The one of the more frustrating aspects about this whole topic is that when the vaccines were first being rolled out, you had lots of formerly credible sources saying that no, there was no danger, at all, and the full weight of the western propaganda machine behind that calling anyone who questioned it or self reported negative side effects being vilified and unceremoniously banned.
Like, I can't blame people for being confused and not knowing what's what or who to listen to about the covid vaccines because there's been non-stop misinfo about the subject from day one.
And even your own post is potentially misleading because like covid, DEATH isn't the sole potential damage that can result from complications from the vaccine.
>But all the time I hear about how it's causing people to have heart attacks/strokes and it's gonna kill everyone.
i've only heard this of the AZ vaccine which isn't the mRNA vaccines, ironically i took the AZ one because as a thirdie i couldn't get to choose which vaccine to use. by now covid vaccines should be perfectly safe and at least your old folks should be taking them together with flu shots, anyway this profound distrust of vaccines means that the US is the only first world country that still gets covid waves, it's basically a non-issue anywhere else.
>>2791711You have to actually value human life for that to matter, meaning being a liberal
>>2791665>massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.No, there isn't
>massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.>>2791665>>2791665>that there is still overall a massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine.>>2791665>that there is still overall a massive net benefit and reduction in death rates from Covid by taking the vaccine. >>2747173I didn't take the shot. Got covid twice 2 years apart. Mild symptoms similar to a cold but no fever. Only thing I miss is food used to taste and smell better. Still happy I didn't take the shot. Everyone I know who took it regrets it. Side effects were weird: back pain, persistent numbness of arms, tachycardia etc. A couple people I know died out of nowhere. Nobody I know that didn't take it wishes that they took it. Only person I personally know that died of covid was a lady with a bad heart and she was single dosed back in like 2022.
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