/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2747173
No. You are falling for anti-vax propaganda. Getting COVID is what's dangerous, the vaccine helps you not get COVID. If you get COVID it will leave broken pieces of virus in your body that both clogs your arteries and continues to negative affect you, that's why people report "long COVID". Even getting COVID once is dangerous longterm. So you're better off with the vaccine.

dangerous? we don't know
but it was human experimentation on a massive scale and people 'for the most part' had no say in the matter

>>2747313
This, I was in a foreign country at the time and my jab was different from the locals.
I refused and I wasn't allowed to work

>>2747316
That is why my horse in this race was the chinese one.
Suck one westoids.
Plus, yeah, in stadistical matters is worse that people get pneumonia and die like fucking dogs in the street because there is no beds with oxigen that 1-5 in a million get a side effect.

>>2747173
no.
the fact that neither you, nor anyone you know, has suffered any consequence is proof enough that it was harmless to you.

but in more detail: only two of the vaccines ever had a proven link to an increased risk of heart attacks or strokes (via blood clots) in 2 out of every 100,000 people in the worst case, and 1 out of 500,000 people in the best case. odds are, that's not you. but your odds get better still: because this risk only appeared for younger people, most countries didn't give those vaccines to under 60s. so you probably didn't get that one. (if you got pfizer, for example, you're clear) moreover, if you did get one of those vaccines, and if you are one of those improbably unlucky people, then the odds are still that you would have survived. any adverse reaction would have happened a few weeks after you got the shot, not years later.

tl;dr you're talking about a vanishingly small risk that would, if it was going to get you, have got you by now, and which - even if it applied to you - probably wouldn't have killed you, just hospitalized you. you can chill.

>>2747173

No, vaccines are safe an effective.
I've lied to the travel clinic in order to get more vaccines for stuff like Japanese Encephalitis and yellow fever.

>>2747173
at the very start when it was a new tech that had never been massively used the question could be had, now its obvious its safe
the problems had much more to do with how the whole process was made to enrich the pharma companies as much as possible rather than doing the most effective thing (shit had to be stored at -60 which made it very harsh logistically especially on poor countries, they didnt waive the patents, the deals were made in the backrooms with lot of obvious corruption etc)

>>2747173
Vaxing in general is moderatly safe, because years of development and tests, but many still have lots of side effects. We know the side effects, so we can think about it and then choose to take it or not. The covid vax lacked all these years of development, long term testing and hat lots of side effects. That's the problem. I got my shots too and I reget it.

covid vaccines should be safe and effecive and not consist of lethal side effects, some of them failed this, though

I know Marxist-Leninists who are anti-vaxx, on the basis Germ Theory is undialectical.

>>2747173
>Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?


no, retard

I got the Chinese vaccine because I wanted a traditional vaccine with a dead virus and not the MRNA stuff. I was counted as "unvaxxed" in my country and basically barred from public life.

So, it was a political decision, not a medical one. So you got a relatively untested vaccine, for political reasons, and that should raise all alarm bells - no matter if it was dangerous or not as this >>2747180 anon said. I know plenty of people who got dead sick after they got vaxxed (never got COVID), and I know people who got dead sick because of COVID. Governments won't disclose all the data, so I guess we'll never know.

>>2769696
All vaccines are "relatively" untested compared to the most tested vaccines, and if we'd waited 50+ years for more testing there wouldn't be much point in making one anyway. The existence of trade offs is not a conspiracy.