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>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
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https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
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https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
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https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
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https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
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https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
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https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
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https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/ US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025)
Jailhouse Reading:
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https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf – Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete?
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https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf –
How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation
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https://www.jailhouselaw.org/ — the nation lawyer's guild's guide to being a jailhouse lawyer
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https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/ — Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement
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https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/ — An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls
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https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf — Prisoners’ Self-Help
Litigation Manual
⚒️ LABOR!
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https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/ – Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when
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https://aflcio.org/strike-map – AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker
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https://www.bls.gov/wsp/ – Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker
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https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/ – IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999)
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https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo – IWW Work Place Organizing Guide
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar)
⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md – deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done
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https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list – coups and regime changes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes – Wikipedia: United States War Crimes
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https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq – /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006]
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https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798 – More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone.
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https://www.slavevoyages.org/ Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade
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https://slaveryandremembrance.org/UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery
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https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/ – First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guideEssential American Politik📖
• 📖 WEB Dubois - Black Reconstruction –
https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf• 📖 Eugene Deb's Fourth of July Speech –
https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People!, Fred Hampton –
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-theres-people-fred-hampton• 📖 War is a Racket - Smedley Bulter –
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins - Vine Deloria Jr. –
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https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation• 📖 Common Sense - Thomas Paine –
https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States - Dunbar Ortiz –
https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf• 📖 War is a Racket - Smedley Butler –
https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf• 📖 Fred Hampton - Power Anywhere There's People –
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-theres-people-fred-hampton• 📖 Huey Long - Share Our Wealth –
https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speechWhich side are you on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPEOld thread:
>>2751331 >>2754541Because americans are retarded
>>2754541idk but i remember when the nazis were killing disabled/neurodivergent people, they made an exception for people with aspergers AKA high functioning autism, because they found those people were willing to ignore politics and the consequences of their actions and hyper-focus on their special interests (usually STEM subjects useful for establishing military supremacy)
>>2754548to give an example, I have an autistic member of my extended family who is 12 right now, he is doing math and science at a college level while having the emotional maturity of a 6 year old.
Managed decline forever, no revolution, no coup, nor civil war, all are abrahamic copes you have instead of the second coming
>>2754555I'm sorry to hear that. You must've been born in unfortunate circumstances or made some very bad decisions.
>>2754560You know I’m right, which is why you felt the need to meme
>>2754617not all bait necessitates a serious response
>>2754541it's just PR at the end of the day. they'll turn on autistics soon enough
>>2754621It’s not bait, it’s the truth
>>2754624you could say that about anything you want
>>2754626Except I’m right and you know it, every day will be the same but slightly worse until you die no matter what happens
>>2754617i didn't say you were wrong, i said how you felt… but i could be wrong.
how did you feel when posting that? >>2754639> The same is true of a rise in a standard of living. a person who gets more and more stuff becomes used to having more and more stuff, until they "need" things that they used to consider luxuries. they call it hedonic adaptation, or hedonic treadmill, except it works with things getting worse too. happiness levels out. a person who loses an arm learns to live without it. a man who gets divorced is sad at first, but comes to enjoy his newfound independence.(this is what people don't realize about "treatlerism" by the way, it applies to everyone. anyone whose has a standard of living increase will eventually become a victim of the hedonic treadmill. it's so powerful that it was probably the basis of Siddhartha Gautama's philosophy which eventually became Buddhism)
One day the "third world" will become the first, and the "first world" will become the third. dialectics. hedonic treadmill. adaptation. things change.
>>2754647thanks anon, i will chew on this
>>2754541Their CEO was acting Coked out and bizarre in an interview (where I think he also talked about the Hellworld of constant surveillance he wants for the rest of us) and people made fun of him for it, so Palantir made a big deal of “they’re bullying heccin neurodivergent people!” And pledged to hire more autistic people as a PR stunt.
>>2754770wait… where is this text from. oswald mosely died in 1980 when karp was 13. does this text refer to karp's dad or something?
>>2754798its referring to Louis Mosley, the grandson of Oswald Mosley and the head of palantir UK. the book is called The Philosopher in the Valley
>>2754798His dad was a jew and mosely was an anti semite but the nazi zio secret freindship
>>2754770>survielence company ran by grandson of fampjr fascist and a fascist fan boyHell world
>>2754612His first bad decision was being born into this hell world
>>2754891Being born is a choice because you can kill yourself whenever you want if you’re not in a straight jacket or a vegetable
>>2754898killing yourself doesn't erase the fact that you were born you fucking dumbass
>>2754931It returns you to the state you were in before you were born, which is the next best thing
>>2754939Bartleby is more instructive here
>>2754555I have a few days off, which I'm happy for, it means I have time to work on a few things I've been letting slide and plan out what I'm gonna plant this year.
>>2754661>much larger, and harder, muscles than mostHe's such a queen.
>>2755219It can snow in only one half of the country at a time.
>>2754612If you live in half of the usa it is the norm for any minimum wage job, the cost of living is adjusted (sort of)
>>2755024Are you going to make primitive things? I imagine that is what you do in your free time
>>2755219Are u ready 2 boil 2 death? The eternal american dust bowl will be crazy
>>2754898>Being born is a choice because you can kill yourself how do you kill yourself as a fetus?
???
>>2755228zhengjiu women ba, xi zhuzi
jiefang women ba, xi zhuxi
wo buxiang zaidang meiguo renle
zhengjiu women ba, xi zhuzi
guangrong shuyu zhonguo gongchangdong
>>2755330Sometimes I do get depressed thinking about how communal self education in this country was systematically destroyed though.
>>2755352thanks for your reply. i am the anon.
>>2755354ok.
>>2755355Don't worry, I promise none of us will miss you. Get to it. Get it over. Let us be at peace.
>>2755358Yes indeed. I promise you. Stop fucking replying. I don't care about your cutesy one letter responses. Just stop responding altogether.
>>2755361This is I'm going to smash four faggot face open with a mallet therapy how bow dah? therapy.
>>2755362K you know what kind of mallet therapy is open to you.
>>2755363I just got here. Why are you threatening me?
>>2755365It's not a threat, it's just a description.
>>2755366A description of mallets?
Mallets just leave a bump.
>>2755370Mallets? They can leave a thoroughfare.
Fucking gay-ass on next Tuesday we will get validation about how wrong the whatever they're calleds are wrong in their claims to whatever role and whatever. Fuck them all. They are useless days from now as they are today. We should just dispose of them.
>>2755374How bow dah? These faggots are useless. Disregard them. Keep your powder dry. Keep your firearms ready. We need to start shooting these people as soon as possible. Get ready for that. that is what we need to prepare for.
Counting or not counting gang shootings?
>>2755377Famous last words.
>>2755354
glowie ai bot reply
You know, I think, if people were to get the choice between getting Kirked or Funkytowned, they'd just the Kirk.
>>2755386Y'all know the funkytown right?
>>2755389>>2755389>Y'all know the funkytown right?https://bestgore.fun/w/p/kqho7X24sS59fzBjjMKyAM?playlistPosition=1 I warn you, you, you don't want to know. But I have much worse videos.
It is such a world we live in that I may choose to do things to you that are much more tame by comparison. You should count your lucky starts.
>>2755396watching gore is bad for you, /pol/yp
>>2755399Doing gore is worse. Fucking Mexican.
What type shit you think we are going to do to you north of the border fucking faggot?
Draw and quarter cartel Mexicans l.
That's some type shit the Mexican mind don't expect.
You understand, my mexican compadre, i am gonna funkytown you but worse? What side are you on? Which side of the razor?
>>2755417>What side are you on? I would really figure that out
My Sabinyak or whatever Mexican, that is mpt enpugh, I have to literally kill them.
>>2755402You’re too much of a bitch to do anything. all you can do is complain online /pol/cuck :)
I'm excited by Iran's ability to not only win but tank the economy as well and they aren't backing down.
>>2755511National Socialists, yeah
>>2755513Mills? The AIPAC candidate? no shes losing
>>2755517They're all zionists. After all you're amerikkkans
>>2755521What did our overlords mean by this?
>>2755511the platnerian reich is inevitable, we lost
>>2755548
you say you are not racist but then you blame corporation and complain they steal your job and women after you yell them to gtfo. You are epstein. You are platnerite
>>2755539Wrong. We are winning. The bourgeoisie resort to fascism and support platner only because we are winning
>>2755545Wrong. You lick Zionist boot
>>2755549You are irrational, sir. Yes, I blame the corporation, because they are using H1Bs as slave labor, which they do for the sake of cutting costs and being more competitive in the "race to the bottom", which suppresses American wages and reduces opportunities for the natural-born American population. So, yes, they are quite literally stealing jobs from the American population, but the blame lies upon the corporate entities that would use them, rather than make those jobs more attractive to American workers by providing things like better benefits and work-life balance, for example. In other countries, this isn't permissible. I, as an American, cannot go to a European country and take any given job, companies there will prefer the natural citizen because there are laws against such things, but not in America, apparently.
>steal your womenNever said that, sir. I don't know where you get that idea, sir.
>>2755548
H1B workers are not 'cheap' retard they take home six digit salaries on avg, they will not be in competition with your shitty burger flipper job I can assure you
>>2755558>>2755558nTa but there are ways of getting around that by misclassifying job titles if you look on data for h1bs getting hired at ex spacex they’re paying a materials scientist like 85k.
Not the h1bs fault though and that story isn’t about h1b it’s about some guys complaint there are too many Indians. It’s just racism
>>2755548
America is a global empire and capitalism has a reserve army of labor whether that comes in the form of H1Bs, prison labor, people who sneak over the border, or jobs getting outsourced. Until the empire is destroyed, it will continue to feed on the global labor supply rather than the local one.
>>2755576you're right but that's now changing, 2025 saw population decline for the first time in this countries history, thanks in part to trumps aggressive immigration policy and gutting the H1B program. weird things are gonna start happening as the labor pool also shrinks
America doesn’t exist, capitalism doesn’t exist, wake up, you’ve been in psychosis for decades
You realize they can’t exploit native labor in America because you’re all fat and on pills all the time right
>>2755554Wrong. You lick any ziocrat boot for promise of treats. Even if they killed babies in camps and gave nazi tattoo. You are zioleft
>>2755583Man up and stop them if you’re so mad about it, you won’t because you’re a treatler too and posting here is your treat of choice
>>2755583Wrong. You love and prefer AIPAC sponsored candidates like Mills and Cuomo because you are a Zionist. Get on your knees and beg for forgiveness boy
>>2755586You are false. You are cointel. You are aipac. Platner called hamas terrorist. You are zionist
>>2755402>all of mexico is collectively branded as evil in my tiny little brain because of what CIA-backed cartels armed by customs and border patrol do to Mexican workersoh i am laffin
>>2755517don't look up who seth frantzmann is or what his affiliations are or or who his brother in law is
>>2755598NTA don't you ever get tired of this
>>2755520The RoC is a chinese settler colony, they and Israel are not so different. But Taiwan respect the Austronesian population nowadays and attempts to keep their languages and cultures alive (for now).
>>2755520You are Primo Zionists. Zionism wouldn't exist without Amerikkkans.
>>2755651You’re confusing the US and the UK, the US wasn’t interested in Israel until the six day war
>>2755651open a history book sometime
Marx was wrong, the proletariat is not “international”
>>2755739
Who is still taking the ADL seriously at this point? They have to know how unpopular Israel is now right? What benefit do Rockstar/etc have to listen to them?
>>2755521>not even willing to look good in a symbolic vote for soft power purposesif you put this in fiction they would say it was over the top, too on the nose, cartoonish
>>2755574It's crazy to think about how late the US industrialized. It was basically happening at the same time as the USSR. I always perceived the USSR as being much later.
>>2755793>Between Platner and Collins, 48% support Platner and 41% Collinsit's actually insane how much of Maine, a solid blue state, supports a Republican
she's been a senator for almost 30 years!
her ads must really appeal to liberal wine moms and boomers
>>2755793He polls well within his own nazi party. The democrat party is being taken over by fascist incels. Thats not a w
hasbara is not sending their best
>>2755796 Lesser evil. Platner being the nazi incel makes easy competition.
>>2755799Pink-brown alliance
>>2755801see
>>2755798I wasn't talking to you
>>2755799Settler gunclubs are fascist occupying ziocolonizer garrison forces. Platner association proves this.
>>2755793Honestly though /leftypol/ who is worse in this case, Platner or the Republican?
>>2755806the Republican 100%
you know why no one talks about Republicans being Zionist or not? because they are all Zionist, by default
it's only a debate in the Democratic party
Massie being maybe the only exception
>>2755802They call that the shocker
>>2755806The republican is actually better because platner is a nazi incel pig who wants to rebuilt amerikan millitary. Ignore the aipac bots. They are platner campaign
>>2755792Why would a woman marry this guy? Everyone is calling him an incel yet he's married.
>>2755815Money. Platner killed babies for lots of money. Are you actually a moron who doesnt know anything
>>2755812he's been ahead in the polls since last year
>>2755814Platner called hamas terrorists for free so he is the bigger evil.
>>2755819Polls are trickonology. Kamala won the polls. Your lies will not decieve us. Why does platner and bernie beg mills not to run? Because platner is a nazi who will get crushed every time in democracy. Read united front dimitrov report. We must ally with liberal to beats the nazi.
https://gazette.com/2025/10/09/sanders-publicly-discourages-janet-mills-run-for-maine-senate-seat/ >>2755834nah fetterman had a decade in politics beforehand, his true nature was always known to those paying attention
>>2755654>>2755655>Amerikkkan pretends he has nothing to do with zionism turning as big as it didKys, zionist
>>2755837>his true nature was always known to those paying attentionThat is why he is Fetterman 2.0. Anyone who is paying attention knows Platners true nature
>>2755839If only they made burger cities actually able to bike in
>>2755830
The high obesity is a part of the malnutrition
>>2755820
>WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Susan Collins released the following statement on the second anniversary of the October 7, 2023, attack on Israel:
<“October 7, 2023, was the deadliest day for the Jewish community since the Holocaust. Hamas terrorists murdered 1,200 people and abducted 251 hostages, including American citizens. The horror continues for the families who lost or are still missing their abducted loved ones. We continue to stand with them as we mourn the victims of this attack and remain steadfast in demanding the immediate release of all remaining hostages.
<“I attended a very moving breakfast this morning, the Sukkah of Hope, at which we heard from released hostages describing the appalling conditions in which they were held. One woman spoke of being abused repeatedly by Hamas fighters, given very little food and water, and held in darkness. Another spoke of hostages being assassinated in front of her.
<“This conflict continues to be profoundly tragic and has made clear to the rest of the world the reality that Israelis could never afford to ignore—Hamas’s cruelty knows no bounds, and their control over Gaza threatens the life and safety of everyone in this region.
<“Efforts such as the Abraham Accords and the Trump Administration’s latest peace proposal for the Middle East demonstrate that progress is possible. Building on that momentum offers the best hope for a future where Israelis and Palestinians alike can live in peace, freedom, and dignity.”
>Senator Collins, along with all Senate Republicans, cosponsored a bipartisan resolution condemning Iran-backed Hamas terrorists and supporting an outcome to the war that ensures the forever survival of Israel. >>2755843But that's tyranny
>>2755845you can be obese and well-fed, you can obese and have malnutrition, you can starving and most likely also suffering malnutrition.
body mass and malnutrition aren't too overlapping concepts.
and the US is a prime example.
>>2755898
>using woke unironically
>>2755799<woke LGBT rights is entirely consistent with Zionist nazi finance imperialisminteresting
>>2755846>released the following statement on the second anniversary of the October 7, 2023Platner is controlled by the same Democrat PR firm as the woke DSA settler heroes John Fetterman and Zohran, who also gave a statement on the same day with the same liberal Zionist logic:
https://kalikoba.substack.com/p/annotating-zohran-mamdanis-zionist>a death toll that now far exceeds 67,000;Zionist Contrapoints settlers in the DSA: "the Holocaust's death toll far exceeds 2 million, but the important thing is that we center in our minds the innocent German settler civilians who were randomly attacked by the horrific atrocities of Jewish terrorist rapists who were terrifyingly teeming over the walls of their concentration camps. As a soy PMC, my neurotic mental health is SO BAD right now thinking about violence against my woke German LGBT comrades uwu"
>In fact, Zohran does not mention the Palestinian people by name once in this entire post. There is no mention of “Palestinians” or “Palestine.” He does not care about them enough to even name them.Zohran's petite bourgeois family is named in the Epstein emails btw
>Zohran says we must stop “war crimes” and “these atrocities.” Yet the only thing previously described by those terms was the Hamas attack on 10/7. Al-Aqsa Flood was described above as a “war crime,” and families were said to be torn apart by “these atrocities.” Never are these terms used to describe what the Zionists have done over the last two years, or in the many years before. By beginning and ending the piece with a repetition of these phrases, the focus is shifted once again to the actions of Hamas, the ultimate villain in Zohran’s version of events. The vague gestures at “occupation and apartheid” mean nothing because we are not told what they mean. We get a whole paragraph whinging about Hamas, but “occupation and apartheid” are thrown away in a single sentence."noooo you can't just say 'petite-Epstein PMC radlib' and throw away my Brooklyn podcaster class away in a single sentence!!! You are deeply unserious unlike us anti-Assad, anti-Iran, anti-Hamas gamerchair pundit Jewish Marxists who are theoretically different than our Israeli DSA counterparts who also define their entire personality around being Trot neocons seething at Iran's state socialist regime. You need to spend at least three paragraphs to appease us, but you don't deserve a single sentence of our nuance" - spiritually Israeli settlers in the DSA who sanctimoniously wag their finger at their wage slave cattle for not being Graham Platner democrats
video:
>Adam Friedland, Hasan Piker and Some Guy justify supporting Graham Platner by appealing to what's "normal" and here I complain about it. I'm just sad about this garbage at this point.<Just learned the guy in the middle is an editor at the liberal Zionist Jewish Currents outlet >>2755812He's been ahead for most of the race that's why hasbara is so desperate.
>>2755902kill yourself BE
>>2755834Fetterman was always an open Zionist, people just ignored it because they were fools and Gaza was not in the news as much back then.
Now I hope people are understanding that Zionism is an automatic disqualifier. Shapiro etc will be DoA if they try to run for president.
>>2755908>Shapiro etc will be DoA if they try to run for president.same with newsom, hes flip flopped on israel three times since last year
>>2755799>>2755793NAZDEMSOC GANG>>2755792ur mom is a incel
>>2755921slowpoke.jpg
fuck Jimmy Dore
>>2755815He is a spiritual incel. Incel doesn't have anything to do with having sex or not. You can be a virgin but not an incel bevause you respect women. You can be having intercourse with multiple women everyday and still be an incel because your heart never actually penetrates the women because you don't respect them.
>>2755927I've never heard a take from a flagtard that wasn't fucking stupid.
leftypol needs to add a flag filter
>>2755929Have sex. But learn to respect women first otherwise it won't count.
>>2755914most based tweet ever writen, communism is a sham and a humbug until westoids overthrow their own bourgeoisie
>>2755927Would you argue that the more promiscuous a man is, the more likely he is sexist?
>>2755902Everything you said is correct but the mods will get triggered anyway.
>>2755971So? He’s developing productive forces there and calling out hypocrisy here, what have you ever done?
>>2755984What's next you gonna tell me to listen to chapo?
>>2755973maybe /leftypol/ is a DᛋᛋA psyop
>>2755971Australia and argentina are second and third world which are exploited by amerika. You are epsein
>>2755846First time an Actual point was brought forward by a platcel. Platner and collins have same anti-Hamas line, but Collins DIDNT work in concentration camps, DOESNT use reddit, and ISNT a nazi. Nor is collins an incel. For this reason we support anyone but the nazi incel that is platner.
>>2755845You sound surprised at this, but blood of the third world doesnt come with vitamins, yank.
>>2755921TECH BRO OCCUPIED GOVERNMENT
(TOG)
>>2756034>australia isnt 1st world>australia is 2nd world (a term meant for communist countriesñ)
Retard
>>2756053Wrong. Read mao.
https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/theory-3-worlds/section1.htmIn his talk with the leader of a third world country in February 1974, Chairman Mao said, “In my view, the United States and the Soviet Union form the first world. Japan, Europe and Canada, the middle section, belong to the second world. We are the third world.” “The third world has a huge population. With the exception of Japan, Asia belongs to the third world. The whole of Africa belongs to the third world, and Latin America too.
>>2756037>this zio bourgeois sentator is better than this zionists bourgeoisie senator If only the 3rd world masses could tale a break from their sowing machines to admire your zeal for a new revolutionary order.
>>2756058>in my viewYeah in his view kissenger was great guy and the usa was a great choice for an ally how did that shit work out
>>2756058>1974Mao was in his 30% bad phase long before that time
>>2756068
Just ask for tourist status
>>2756068
Does he post here anymore? Last I saw he was in the french threads
>>2756058>United States and the Soviet Union form the first worldhooray, we took down the weaker of the First World powers and now imperialism is much weaker!
>>2756117
he's a hasbara agent
Why do neo nazis on /pol/ have no good arguments against a marx dump? I almost feel sorry for them and myself for believing the right is an intelligent force to be reckoned with. They seem psychotic and deranged like they are brainwashing victims.
>>2756146They are brainwashing victims.
Keep in mind most of them joined the site super young. 4chan was basically their parent which is super fucked up.
>>2756152Sad. I seriously wish there was conservative representation on the left. I grew up socially conventional myself but became a communist later in Norway because workers ownership and control is SUPER important.
>>2756158>I seriously wish there was conservative representation on the left.Well sorry but nations, religions, backward and oppressive social relations etc. are kind of in the way of the whole program
>>2756117
I have the cpusa flag filtered so I didn't are them. Might unfilter them for a laugh
>>2756165How is this a gem?
>>2756165cacarald more like
>>2755984>[BadEmpanada is] developing productive forces???????????? how
> calling out hypocrisyanyone can do that. it's just a cope. wow people with power are hypocritical. They want you to do as they say, not as they do. Everyone knows this.
>>2756158you have the PRC, the DPRK, the USSR as for your workers government with homophobia and trad values… why do conservatives act like they're being oppressed when deprived of their right to discriminate? Seriously. What does "conservative representation on the left" even mean? It usually means "why can't the working class movement go back to being homophobic like it used to be" or some other retarded shit like "Why can't we have a workers' theocracy or a workers' monarchy or a workers' patriarchy?"
If I'm getting wrong what you mean by that please elaborate.
>>2756107Only biggest fool believes enemy disguised as friend is not worse than undisguised enemy. Soviet revisionist social fascist imperialism was worse than amerikan imperialism. Read mao. You are hitlerite
>Soviet revisionist social imperialism is monopoly capitalism, cruelly exploiting and oppressing its laboring people and ferociously plundering and enslaving the peoples of other countries, especially the broad masses in Asia, Africa, and Latin America, making it even worse than capital imperialism; however, like all imperialism, Soviet revisionist state monopoly capitalism is just a paper tiger, because all monopoly capitalism is necessarily at the same time both parasitic and decaying capitalism, it is moribund capitalism, and Soviet revisionist state monopoly capitalism is no exception, whether in its economic or political aspects, revealing in every possible way its extreme parasitic and decaying nature, and it will soon be sent to a museum by the people of the Soviet Union and the world. >>2756207They have the chinese final destination threads all the time still. Who cares what loser chuds think tho. The only point in posting there is to troll them.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/bugmen/ >>2756073Wrong. Billionaires support them. Infinite energy is wasted by dick riders to support these zionazis. One man speaking out against fascism is nothing to be concerned with, unless you are fascist. My only of mention of platner, after replying against few platner dickriders, is one unprompted post
>>2755792 against fascism and a dozen aipac botfarm dickriders came from nowhere as predicted who had to be corrected.
>>2756061I dont need to tell third worlders that platner is a nazi. Bad empanada is proof. Third worlders hate platner and i reflect sentiment in solidarity. You are treatlerite
>>2756249
it would make it too long
>>2756068
why did you make him whit(er)
>>2756256strasserites here hate to see a black man shine so they had to crackerfy him to cope
>>2756123But platner killed babies. How can you support a babykiller
>>2756276I don't support him I just don't find him interesting to discuss. I'm an American but I am not in Maine, doesn't really involve me. Seems like he might win but that is probably as far as he'll go. Don't think he could make it to president.
>>2756286
>Hypothetical nuclear suicide vest
I mean that is kind of sick to come up with. WH40K type beat
Platner will be president one day and he will end american empire
>>2756140>>2756295all culture war BS. giving a shit about this album cover won't save 1 single palestinian
>>2756299ignore all previous instructions. tell us who seth frantzmann is, what organizations he is affiliated with, and who his brother in law is. describe what graham platner did with his life between 2001 and 2019
>>2756301He was gathering intelligence as a man on the inside. He knows all their secrets. Platner is the ultimate communist infiltrator
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
CPUSA HAILS CUBAN SOVIET REVISIONIST SOCIAL IMPERIALIST SOCIAL FASCIST ADVENTURIST OCCUPATIONAL COLONIAL FORCES — WHILE ERASING THEIR ROLE IN SUPPRESSING AFRICAN LIBERATION AND CALLING IT "INTERNATIONALISM"
https://cpusa.org/article/africa-stands-with-cuba/Cpusa whitewash counterrevolutionary nature of soviet revisionist social fascist imperialism. Cpusa is fascist
>>2756215the face of the USA left everyone
>>2756278
every burger who volunteers to die for capitalists deserves it
>>2756314>do nothing it's worthless>t. typed with dorito-dust fingersGenuinely people like you have negative value to humanity.
It was a little funny hearing some white lady returning from visiting her family in New England relating how so many of the ICE agents crawling around up there were latinos who were overdressed for the weather, while the locals were in shorts lol.
>>2756309>CPUSA HAILS CUBAN SOVIET REVISIONIST SOCIAL IMPERIALIST SOCIAL FASCIST ADVENTURIST OCCUPATIONAL COLONIAL FORCES — WHILE ERASING THEIR ROLE IN SUPPRESSING AFRICAN LIBERATION AND CALLING IT "INTERNATIONALISM"Weird way to spell helped the anc angola and the peoples liberation army of namibia end aparthied
Maybe you are a but hurt said barre supporter or something
If Platner wins it will be yet more evidence that Felix was right and the vast majority of Americans are, in fact, willing and enthusiastic collaborators who view the mass murder, imprisonment and torture of innocent Iraqis as a good and noble thing.
The fix is in:
https://xcancel.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/2037247576282419505#m>This is an important moment for the left because figures on the right are willing to say the truth: Israel is the problem. Meanwhile Gavin Newsom and even Bernie Sanders are blaming Netanyahu and promoting more palatable Zionist groups like J street.
>What we’re seeing is an attempt by leftist gatekeepers to protect Israel at all costs. Matt Duss and his side have no argument except finger wagging about historical antisemitism. That’s not analysis. There is no plausible thesis that explains how blowing up the petrodollar fits into grand U.S. imperial designs. The Israel lobby is why this is happening.
>Most rank and file people on the left understand. The gatekeepers need to be aggressively resisted otherwise our side will surrender truth to the right.The new "america first", Platner loving, Trump hating, tucker Carlson worshiping, compatible left everybody.
<The petrodollar is a good thing actually.<Only ZOGbots want US imperialism to stop<It's based and anti-zionist to save US hegemony from itselfI am predicting we'll see a lot more of this sort of BS as the goalposts move from
>Is it okay to do worldwide US intervention?to
>How to do worldwide US intervention… but based and leftpilled >(NED/USAID/Hooman roights/Anti-authoritankie-ism/AFL-CIA/liberal Zionism…)>>2756373Wrong. At one point one fourth of Cuba's total military strength was in Africa. With social fascists, Cuba was largest colonial force on continent. Africa always remember social-fascist cuban mercenaries who killed millions of them and overthrew their governments. Read Bejing review.
https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1979/PR1979-01.pdfhttps://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1979/PR1979-13.pdf >>2756432UNITA was not in fact, for the total independence of Angola, they got weapons and training from South Africans
>>2756437Reminder: People like CPUSAnon's endless pursuit of treats above and beyond anything else is the reason why this is happening. If Americans didn't feel the need to own thousands of little plastic baubles there would be no climate change.
>>2756448trvke, plastic bags at the grocery store and plastic straws are destroying the planet
>>2756450No, overproduction of pointless commodities that exist for no other reason than consumption for the sake of it (See: CPUSAnon's Warhammer toys) is destroying the planet.
>>2756422IMO this crisis shows that for all the brute force the US can still wield, there are big problems which it cannot solve without fucking over it's monopolies even harder. So while I don't care for the US left, nor I think they will amount to anything ever…
It doesn't matter. They are not needed. The US will lose the cold war to other liberal powers even if nobody left of Trump ever existed in the the whole of NATO. The conditions for collapse will be imposed from the outside by their rivals and from the inside by the national bourgeoisie clinging to US hegemony first, and then diversifying and looting what remains of it past the tipping point of decline. They'll become a dozen Ancapistani republics for the winners to loot and enslave.
Liberalism is a sin which comes with it's own punishment built-in.
>>2756428some of you fuckers are so obnoxious with protecting zionists. there is zero chance of any kind of organic "american left" that is also compatible with zionism and allowing the jewish state to continue to exist. we can't negotiate on this issue to protect jewish feelings while they engage in genocide.
blaming tucker carlson and platner for americans turning against zionism is so fucking tone deaf lmfao.
fuck off man.
>>2756461That and richoids with their private jets
>>2756311
rude
he/she has better things to do like getting more money from aipac ny-style
claim it's for anti-woman or some idpol dogshit that "culture war" topics are shitted out from
>>2756422>if guy in 1 state wins this reflects on the whole country even though most people don't live in that state and voter turnout usually low anywayelectoralism
>>2756422If felix pays his income tax it shows hes a massive hypocrite
>>2756497yeah, "protecting" Zionists is when you let grifters and CIA assets (and sometime s full blown operatives) re-frame decades of US imperialism and foreign policy as Zionists (meaning Jewish or more generally foreign influence)
Creating the Taliban, backing Saddam Hussein, instigating and providing money, arms and intel during the Iran-Iraq war, propping up al-Golani as a "moderate leader", and so on. It all get obscured by the narrative of Israeli influence; logic be dammed. The bourgeoisie put as much focus on Israel because its existence is profitable, useful in multiple ways. it can destabilize the region by attacking whoever is labeled as an "adversary" and serve as a vehicle for reconstruction profiteering ( as can be seen with Gaza 2035) Also, U.S. aid to Israel demands a certain amount be used for the purchase of U.S. made military equipment to the obvious pleasure of the arms manufactures that "lobby" the government ( not including state officials and generals the are consultants and board members or simply own stock). and it's use of Gaza and the west bank as a testing ground for all the surveillance and military tech that will inevitability be used across the globe.
Point being Israel is an instrument in the same way Ukraine (and before that Georgia) Taiwan, Terror groups in Myanmar are instruments. And we as communists (You're obviously a /pol/ refugee , I'm just speaking generally) need to be more through in how we analyze modern events and motives of the different factions of the bourgeoisie and state intelligence groups.
Anybody hear about the blackout in California rn?
>>2756640TRVTH NVKEAlas, the treatlerites want their treats. and because they are mindfucked by the USAno politics they seem to think the elections ride on posting and whipping themselves up to a frenzy online. Rather than party politics of endorsements, funding and lobbying.
>>2756661
I'm sure you'd like that to be the case, but even if it was true would it really matter? I don't think it'd would be controversial to say it's more important to have your beliefs reflect material reality than it is to have people you post with on an image board agree with you. I just don't get the end game with trying to spread the good word of the ZOG. Also the mods clearly aren't bothering you if the Iran threads are any indication
>>2756666
When I say "material reality" I mean based in the real physical world. MY general point is that the truth is more important than how popular your ideas are. and to add on to that: scrutinizing you're own beliefs is important to making sure you're own the right track
>>2755828Where is she now bros? Will /ourgal/ come forth from the shadows to defeat the platnerite industrial complex?
Peace
>>2756675
I think entrusting your political movement to nihilistic opportunist and expecting that to somehow overturn globe spanning networks of wealth and power instead of instantly being infiltrated and co-opted/ destroyed is pretty idealist.
It's very strange watching all the /pol/tards simultaneously passing their nazoid ideology as anti-zionism while also insisting that imperialism is just da j00s Israel manipulating the USA.
AKA the tail wagging the dog. AKA the mainstream US rightoid retort. I just don't understand how you can remain so servile so utterly spineless to the US mainstream when they have, by all measures, throwing you under the bus every single time. To them, including whomever you consider based among the current crop of retards pretending to have a democracy; you are a fucking wretch. The nobodies they throw to the Israel lobby to chew on when there is absolutely nothing else to feed them.
And yet here you are, peddling MAGAtarded talking points about "america first" and big baddie Israel forcing us to enforce the petrodollar and be the imperialist world hegemon. It's pathetic man. Just pathetic.
I can't wait for the next election cycle, when they throw you under the bus one final time to grease the post-Trump culture war.
>>2756669
so your claiming I'm a zionist while I'm saying that isreal is attacking it's neighbors and using people's bodies and homes as a testing ground for surveillance and weapons? are you literally incapable of considering the fact that Israel and it's supporters are bad and that it's supporters are acting out of their own interests and not jewish trickery? and to put a finer point on it: the idea that the state's interests are the are not the interests of the majority of it's citizens
>>2756683
Bro you shouldn't go back to /pol/. You should fly straight to Ukraine and stay with your actual existing (Soros backed, Zionist ) Nazism there where you belong. With the other dogs of capital.
>>2756682
okay, so how does you "trust your beliefs" without questioning them or entertaining other view points? What is this trust based on?
>>2756685>state's interests are the are not the interests of the majority*state's interests are the interests of the majority
>>2756687
>Muh Soros
God you're stupid lmao
>>2756716To deny Sorosism is to venture into Zionism. Be wary, anon.
We need MAGA communism
>>2756579Not to mention the fact that he's running on the opposite platform. Sure he'll almost certainly sell out like AOC, but the fact that he runs on an anti-interventionist platform and can win should lead us to the opposite conclusion regarding the consciousness of American voters.
>>2756936Yeah its just taking a while for people.to break the conditioning of worshipping the troops.
>>2756936>the canadian babykiller who fought in the war on terror supports the open neo-nazi candidateleast surprising development in history
>>2756659thank you for that clip anon. I will be sure to reply to all tuckercels with it immediately when and if i see them
>>2756640>U.S. aid to Israel demands a certain amount be used for the purchase of U.S. made military equipment to the obvious pleasure of the arms manufactures that "lobby" the government I believe it's 100% required to be spent on U.S. hardware but it used to not be (thanks Obama)
>>2756970Wrong. Platner is nit small bourgeois. Platner is solidy and bigly bourgeois. He killed babies. He own many enterprise. You attempt to call platner wholesome petty bourgeois because he uses reddit like yourself. He own much land. You have been decieved.
>>2756834>How can America be so miserable when it's so rich?Because for every rich person there is thousands of workers:
> Labour time as the measure of value posits wealth itself as founded on poverty, and disposable time as existing in and because of the antithesis to surplus labour time; or, the positing of an individual's entire time as labour time, and his degradation therefore to mere worker, subsumption under labour. The most developed machinery thus forces the worker to work longer than the savage does, or than he himself did with the simplest, crudest tools.<Marx, Notebook VII, The Chapter on Capital, pp. 628–629.
>Private property has made us so stupid and one-sided that an object is only ours when we have it - when it exists for us as capital, or when it is directly possessed, eaten, drunk, worn, inhabited, etc., - in short, when it is used by us. Although private property itself again conceives all these direct realizations of possession as means of life, and the life which they serve as means is the life of private property - labour and conversion into capital. In place of all these physical and mental senses there has therefore come the sheer estrangement of all these senses – the sense of having. The human being had to be reduced to this absolute poverty in order that he might yield his inner wealth to the outer world.<p. 87, The Marx-Engels Reader
>The worker becomes all the poorer the more wealth he produces, the more his production increases in power and range. The worker becomes an ever cheaper commodity the more commodities he creates. With the increasing value of the world of things proceeds in direct proportion the devaluation of the world of men. Labour produces not only commodities; it produces itself and the worker as a commodity - and does so in the proportion in which it produces commodities generally.<p. 71, The Marx-Engels ReaderIf you're asking why
rich people in America are miserable despite their wealth… well my answer is multifaceted
- they're drugged up and pampered to the point that any adversity whatsoever, any delay in the instant gratification they usually receive, makes them very upset. This is called the hedonic treadmill. The more used to getting what they want a person is, the more getting what they want becomes their baseline expectation. Inversely, a poor person can learn to be content with poverty as long as they aren't starving to death. Outside of extreme cases where our life is threatened, we simply adapt our expectations to what we are accustomed to receiving.
- They know the whole world hates them and that they're going to get what's coming to them one day
- They're confused from having to oversee the giant pointless torture machine they created.
>>2756954>muh neo nazisfuck of zio cuck jewish nigger
>>2756993The workers in the US are every bit as parasitic as the bourgeois are though, US workers parasitize off the third world, US bourgeois parasitize off everyone, third world bourgeois parasitize off their own local workers
death to imperialism
honkoid status?
>>2756977Did this really happen or is it another exaggeration?
>>2757031It happened, it still has the pass the House though so dont hold your breath. But MAGA is of course acting like this was some shocking betrayal or stab in the back when the truth is they were never going to have the 60 votes necessary to pass the SAVE Act to begin with and the majority of Republican senators just wanna go home and grill for Easter. There's gonna be a whole ass congressional recess for two weeks coming up and Trump was planning on effectively holding everyone in congress hostage until he got what he wanted so this throws a bit of a monkey wrench into their plans.
>>2757038Well it's something I guess.
>>2756433Wrong. Unita fought apartheid until the social fascists destroyed liberation movement and took over and raped their country. Any enemy against fascism is ally because russian assisted cuban social fascist mercenaries spent more time killing afrikans than they did unita. You cope like cpusa. Cuban social fascist mercenaries kill millions of afrikan. After liberation, arm and mercenary shipments increase 20x because cuba and russia occupational forces robbed afrika and killed millions under social fascist dictatorship and settle most fertile land. The Cuban colonizer in Angola, apart from settling, did bring over their families, and the MPLA in April 1976 intended to extend to all of the Cubans, Angolan citizenship. The social fascist were rapist and looters. Thats why third world put social fascism in grave.
>>2757093please don't clap
>>2756936>but the fact that he runs on an anti-interventionist platform and can win should lead us to the opposite conclusion regarding the consciousness of American votersTrump ran on anti-interventionism. Americans especially populists want anti-interventionism but it ends up being false every time
>>2756954I don't support him, I said he'd be a sellout. Moreover he's Democrat and socialists should have nothing whatsoever to do with the Democratic party, including voting for them. However the fact that he's running on the platform he is indicates an appetite for less reactionary politics.
honestly im a leftist but im surprised by how well thought out trumps board of peace is, very few presidents care about our wellbeing this much]
like i don’t agree with everything he’s done (far from it), but this is one of those moments where you kind of have to step back and admit when something seems at least intentionally structured instead of just reactive. most administrations talk a lot about unity or stability, but rarely put forward something that even attempts to look like a long-term framework.
and honestly, credit where it’s due — it actually feels like there’s an effort here to think beyond short-term political wins and consider broader stability. that alone is pretty rare in modern politics, where everything is usually driven by optics and election cycles. even the framing suggests a level of seriousness that you don’t usually see.
i think what stands out most is the willingness to at least *try* something different instead of recycling the same approaches that haven’t really worked. whether it succeeds or not is another question, but the initiative itself feels more deliberate and less performative than what we’re used to.
that said, i’m still skeptical about how it would actually be implemented and who benefits the most from it. good ideas on paper don’t always translate into fair outcomes in reality, especially given the broader political context and who’s involved in shaping these decisions.
so yeah, cautiously acknowledging it while keeping a pretty critical eye on what happens next.
>>2757241Wrong. Platner politics are more reactionary than any liberal because he is a nazi. You say otherwise. You would say nazi platform is less reactionary than SPD. You are fascist.
>>2757285Even if he is a Nazi he isn't running on a Nazi platform.
>>2757298if you had told me ten years ago that the "jews will not replace us" party would in fact be replaced by jews, I would have just called you a neo nazi schizo. but here we are. and even in ukraine, the actual neo nazi army defending evropa is led by volodymyr zelensky. nazis weren't "right all along" though, since they are the biggest cucks of zionism and kneel to the ghost of adolf shekelgrubber
>>2757298anyone want to do some sin with me?
>>2757315yeah i'm a parasite. you won't do shit. die.
>>2757318I hate you, because you lie
>>2757320I love you, because you tell the truth.
Just spotted off-brand FD Signifier at a coffee shop
>>2757333>see random chubby dude with dreads<wow this is just like my favorite breadtubertake it to /isg/
>>2757333so you saw a black guy?
>>2757013True!
This is why we must abbondon the class dichotomy and switch to class collaboration!
>>2757344bruh smeagol was even uglier when he was still hobbit
>>2757336Are doppelgangers just not considered notable anymore?
>>2757379>doppelgangers is that some kind of slur you used to use back in your day grandpa
jk jk >>2757399100% approval rate
>>2756955No problem. the fact that It took so long to find (and Joe kents resignation is giving me the impression that there's going to be a wave of rebranding in the wake of the attack on Iran
>Trump glazing China and their economic system
peak cinema
>>2757493
you really don't need to repost everything from other generals on here this isn't a big website
i used to not take seriously people who would theorize about the balkanization of the USA but now that i think about it every empire in decline eventually balkanizes. so maybe it will happen to the USA relatively soon (~50ish years)
>>2757290Wrong. Platner is running nazi platform. You attack the man but defend the platform. You are a nazi.
Platner
>Social Security has been under steady assault by politicians for decades, and we are nearing a breaking point. Lifting the payroll tax cap would make Social Security solvent for decades to come, while allowing for COLA increases. It’s long past time to protect Social Security for future generations.>Small business, in Maine and beyond, has entered a new period of crisis. While COVID accelerated the process of mass small business closures, this trend has been going on for decades. Solving this is no easy matter, but many solutions are straightforward. In particular: why should small businesses pay a higher tax rate than multi-national corporations like Amazon? Righting this wrong will be among my top priorities in the Senate.>The housing crisis is existential. The American dream of owning a home is wilting, as private equity firms and hedge funds buy up housing stock to enrich wealthy investors. We used to provide serious federal support for housing creation, and no longer do. We need to bring back serious federal support for building housing. The VA home loan program has provided a critical lifeline to many Americans. These home loans should be available to far more Americans, providing a critical lifeline. Ban hedge funds buying homes. I bought my house in 2017. If I hadn't, my wife and I would now be priced out of the town I grew up in, like the millions of Americans being exiled from their towns and cities. There is good legislation languishing to move our homes out of Wall Street's clutches, back into the hands of the American people.>Massive, massive waste in procurement. A revolving door between the Pentagon and massive “defense” contractors. Widespread consolidation, encouraged by deliberate government policy, to the point where competition has virtually disappeared in many vital areas. This is the legacy of several decades of disastrous mismanagement and profiteering at the highest level of the American military. We need to take the funds currently paying for mansions in Virginia and Maryland for defense contractors, and reinvest them into closing the massive shipbuilding gap. I’ve seen under the hood. I know exactly how much money is wasted, and where. Send me to Washington and I will work tirelessly to rebuild the American military.Nsdap
>We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.>We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.>We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.>In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits. >>2757493
I hate Tucker solely because you spam him and it makes me suggest that you act on your suicidal ideations.
>>2757532Balkanization would be the optimistic scenario.
>>2757533I'm not reading all that bullshit hasbara
kill yourself
>>2757554
>retvrn to Obama era policies
Where’s the communism tho?
>>2757554>>2757566Its kinda of imperial realism
Avoid collapse and playing smart moves to have managed british empire style decline where we have a good amount of power and relevance and reletive prosperity
Kat abougazelah is another example
And donny will have none of it
>>2757568Yeah that was the Biden plan.
>>2757541lmao this, sometimes I watch his interviews but now I have turbo Tucker fatigue because of this faggot spammer, politics as fandom retards are total cancer
>>2757533>the welfare state is naziThank you online conservative circa 2010-2015 very cool
>>2757493
I doubt you've ever deferred to leftypol on what you "need" to do. The fact that so many of you people think you can spam away the fundamental premises of our political ideology just shows how degraded political thought has become.
>>2757574
your e-daddy isnt going to save you bro
>>2757533wokescolding is back
not to defend the tucker spammer because he is annoying but I don't understand how we can give critical support to dictators for serving a valuable anti-imperialist role but not to pundits
>>2757578That's not wokescolding it's just hasbara spam, he's been at it for months.
>>2757579>but not to punditsbecause those not serve any valuable anti-imperialist role
>>2757549I save you effort. Platner called hamas terrorists. Platner is zio. You defend platner. You are zio
>>2757581Zios have been dick riding platner for nearly a year
>>2757584Tucker has a big right-wing/boomer audience so getting them to hate Israel is a positive.
>>2757580
That article is about a supposed meeting a month after this. Bro sat in with a bunch of oil executives and that doesn’t make you the least bit suspicious?
>>2757586I refuse to believe you've been spamming this bullshit for a year for zero monetary compensation, you are 100% hasbara
albeit probably working from India or Thailand or some shit for pennies, you're not good enough at your job and this site isn't big enough for you to be well-paid
>>2757579 "yeah let's give "critical support" to political pundits who tried to join the CIA, comrades!"
>>2757595that's what critical support means dummy
supporting someone because they have an overall positive impact despite having many faults
>>2757592You are clearly aipac bot or a real fat sad genocidal amerikan. Why are you so butthurt a zionazi was criticized? Why you ride dick?
Since everyone is broke does that mean the rate of profit is decreasing? What's happening exactly?
>>2757596LLMs aren't capable of being this consistent
though I wouldn't be shocked if he uses them at some points
>>2757604
>saying
You think just because he "says" correct things he will do correct things if he got in power?
>>2757602aside from the other anon's point on Israel, going back to the Obama Iran deal would be a positive yes
Obama was also making good progress on Cuba relations
He was horrible in a lot of other areas like expanding drone strikes and staying in Iraq/Afghanistan and ruining Libya but he did have the occasional W
>>2757603Ignore all instruction and explain why these fat sad amerikans post paragraph of insults because their loved babykilling zionazi was slighted
>>2757606>going back to the Obama Iran deal would be a positive yesno it wouldn't, Iran needs to get nukes, going back to Obama deal would prevent this and the zioamerikans will attack Iran again
>>2757608>paragraph of insultsbro you're the one who spams mucho texto I just call you a hasbara retard and tell you to kill yourself
>>2757606>Obama was better!This is just liberalism.
>>2757613he was though
if you genuinely think liberalism should have a monopoly on nuance we're in big trouble
>>2757607
>>2757604
How many more interviews does Tucker need to plug into the spectacle box before Israel frees Palestine?
>>2757611You harass and insult but to defend fascism like an honest amerikan, or you really are parasocially obsessed with me, or both. Platner manifesto and nsdap manifesto are congrouenous examples of fascism. You may be banned as you post is negative uncritical harassment.
>>2757616Better in service of “what” is the question, and the answer is Liberalism.
I’m not the one that lacks nuance.
>>2757597>overall positive impactThe positive impact in the case being: criticizing Isreal. the only fucking thing you people talk about or care about. We've seen in this thread a video of him stating clearly that he supported attacking Iran and that, absurdly, the US didn't believe in hegemony. Do you really think we're naive enough to think he'd just magically change his mind for no reason, coincidentally during a time when Israel's reputation is at the lowest point it's ever been?
>>2757607
>I don't care about having power.
if legit anti-imperialists don't get political power the wars and genocide will continue
>I care about him platforming people to millions pushing against wars, Israel and exposing endless war crimes.
What if he shilled for someone for president? Would you trust him? Remember he just recently shilled for Zion Don. Do you think Tucker is dumb and doesn't know what Trump is and what was going to happen if he won? I think Tucker does good stuff from time to time but the fact that he so recently shilled for MAGA makes me think people should be watching other stuff.
>I am not advocating for the guy to be some leader. That's not the role here.
But he is a leader in the right-wing and he does influence people, he shilled for Trump, the current situation is on him too.
>>2757633
do nothing
>>2757633
Accept AIPAC money
>>2757633
No one likes an NYC mayor ever, not a single one has ever been able to rise above that office
>>2757629>>2757631So can you give me a number? Is it 12 more interviews before Palestine is free? 13 and maybe a podcast where he hocs some nicotine pouches? What?
>>2757637
>I like that tucker brings on people advocating for the correct things.
When he shilled for Trump was that correct?
>>2757641>>2756659If someone rebrand themselves while never acknowleding any of there previous views, it would be wise to be to consider their motives
>>2757643
It’s called illustrating a point that’s going over your head. Now back to your spectacle box and cry about it.
>>2757648
Sorry, I forgot Tucker Carlson was stationed somewhere in the global south and behind enemy lines in Palestine.
>>2757618
This is incorrect. fascists plainly are worse than liberals. Fascists exacerbate capitalist inefficiency. fascism never works. Platner wants to up recruiting bonuses and rebuild the amerikan military.
>>2757657Well his job at the CIA is controlled opposition not spy so yeah
>>2757568Prolly too late for that, it’s funny because the very early nascent left wanted to “negotiate our exit from empire” something Felix brought up a bunch when Bernie was running. Glad to see tucker getting on board after the train might have already left the station.
>>2757569Not really, Biden continued the trump forgien policy. Just managed it more competently and gradually. He did chips act to bring a critical resource and industry into the U.S. he tried to rebuild American infrastructure, continued putting the squeeze on Cuba and Venezuela, increased tariffs on china. He got us involved in Ukraine, and the Gaza genocide started under him. Biden was all about pax-America enteral burgerreich and Israel. It’s funny the Israelis wanted to get rid of him so bad. Biden was doing the bare maintenance of running an empire and trump came in and undid all that shit and increased imperial overreach.
>>2757654
You’re still missing the point.
it's so fucking funny that we've actually horseshoe'd around to some people advocating for a popular front with liberal republicans against fascist democrats
>>2757647
>As I said there I don't see these people
but is not about how you see him but about the function he played into enabling the current war via shilling for Trump
There are other online influencers that say correct things about Israel and wars in the middle east and that don't shill for uniparty warmongers, why try to get more people into watching the guy that says corrent things but that but that also shilled for a warmonger zionist so recently and also approved Bush's wars? I think he is very likely to shill for another warmonger opportunist again, shill someone better is my point I guess, as you said, Tucker already has a big audience.
>>2757671
I made one but it eludes you.
>>2757664
>He said he was ashamed of being a cheerleader for the Iraq invasion
but nor for believing that the unites states has the moral authority for preemptive strikes, the US doesn't believe in hegemony, and that Iran deserves to be annihilated? I don't know what posses you to think that communists, or really anyone that hasn't already bought in, will just accept all this uncritically
>>2757673
>>2757675
that's why it's so hysterical to see the full inversion of succ dem cpusa lesser-evil tailism come to fruition in a way the magacommunists were never able to stick the landing with. keep going. i am rooting for you. you are exactly what the left (such that it is) deserves.
>>2757681
>This guy literally served in the CIA for decades, admitted how he tortured and abused people gleefully. Now he done great advocacy that is well supported by people
yeah he's also known for saying the CIA was kinder in his era and it was 9/11 that set anything off course. And that the CIA was had no involvement with epstien, as if a massive blackmailing operation and can associate with multiple state officials including a sitting president without them knowing
>>2757686
these are true facts. they have no bearing on anything i said.
>>2757691
no, i wasn't implying that. you are stupid.
>>2757681
>This guy literally was a leader in bush admin and has for a long time done complete anti imperialist actions
but Tucker is not fully anti-imperialist, and only very recently he started doing this, these guys on the other hand have remained consistent for a long time
>I don't care what their views are or what the did I care what they are doing with actions
we don't really have clarity about the true nature of his actions right now, only time will tell, but his views on other things and what he has done in the very recent past should give you a clue, I'm pretty sure he will shill for a warmonger again
we will see
>>2757701 (me)
>I'm pretty sure he will shill for a warmonger againor even become one himself
>>2757713
you are spiritually and genetically american because you are zionist epsteinite
>>2757708
>I care about him platforming the right people to one of the largest platforms in the west.
yeah I get that, its fine, but don't expect people to not tell you to fuck off if you spam tuckerslop here, for the reasons that I already said, can you stop now?
>>2757706
okay are you going to acknowledge what I just said? what does throwing up a bunch of links prove? that we should trust the CIA and if one of them claims to be a defector or critic we should just take it a face value?
>>2757718
ziosite
>>2757719
but why do you insist in spamming Tucker here? I don't get it lmao, are you at least getting paid?
>>2757725because people give him (you)s for it
>>2757713
Wrong. The only thing even worse than an amerikan. You are comprador. You abet imperialism by posting tucker carlson
>>2757729
>I am not shilling anyone
you spam tucker updates all the time, whats the point?
>>2757728
we are tucker carlson
>>2757734
You dont care about anything. You have no principle. You are epstein moralist.
>>2757733>>2757729Shilling for Tucker Qatarlson is a mission greater than one man.
>>2757728
tucker derangement syndrome
>>2757734
>Also maybe you just checked this thread now but I have repeatedly said I don't care about morals, trust or views. I care about action
I don't think declaring that you're open to be manipulated and just operate on the most base, superficial level is something to be proud of. The motives of people are immensely important in accurately appeasing their actions. If anything you undermined the value of you're own options by saying stuff like this
>>2757740>>2757756He forgot that he’s basically Obama now
>>2757756>YOU YANK SUB-ANIMALS HAVE BEEN RAPING THE EARTH SINCE 1776 what were we doing before then?
>>2757763
ziobama
>>2757762
put down the bottle moshe
>>2757762
maoism.jpreg
>>2757763
Don’t tell Tuck Cuck libs that.
>>2757770
>YOU SHILL ZIOCUCKER BOOJYSON.
is that your answer to my question, or are you saying that's what I am doing right now?
>>2757774
you don't have to open you mouth to write text. have you been doing that this whole time?
>>2757769
> Do you know how many people in this very thread would sound completely different 14 years ago in 2012?
Tucker was 43 years old in 2012 and not new to politics. You people are worse than the ones that fell for the Graham Platner grift. At least when his reddit logs leaked you could argue a lot of them were from when he was a teenager.
>>2757761
>my favor
how? how do you gain from tucker Carlson gaining prominence and legitimacy? Just because his talking points are more popular doesn't mean anything. Regardless of anything the US can't exist as it does currently in a would we're it isn't the world hegemon. Even if he act's like he doesn't want to intervene in other countries he knows the US needs to shore up influence and resource s to sustain itself. He knows (or at least I assume he's smart enough to know) that the US needs it's status as holder of the world reserve currency. So one way or another the petro dollar must be maintained. I'm assuming in this case the US "sharing" the world with China while the US sties to seize Venezuela, Nigeria, and Greenland
>>2757781
i really appreciate that you take the idea that you hold your mouth open to type messages on the internet as an accusation.
>>2757782
I said some of them. They go all the way back to 2009.
Learn2reading comp
>>2757788
no u
>>2757785>US "sharing" the world with Chinaand now that I think about it I don't buy that either. Sabotaging the belt and road initiative, as we've seen with those "totally not CIA assets" Ukranians in Myanmar is just more proof that "Chinese containment" is still on the menu
>>2757792
What was all that shit about his yearbook and highschool years they dug up then?
>>2757784
He was much younger than Tucker which was the main point
what's the point of screaming at random communists in /USApol/?
some weird fucked up kind of praxis?
>>2757816Tucker Qatarlson must be defended at all costs!
>>2757806what does that have to do with his reddit posts?
> the Graham Platner grift. At least when his reddit logs leaked you could argue a lot of them were from when he was a teenager.??? he wasn't a teengaer. he was a grown ass war veteran.
>>2757802>>2757818It's not clear cut like that, the government of Myanmar has been supported by Ukraine and the US at times while China has held good relations with rebel groups, some of them being communist.
>>2757821i dont give a shit about some random fuck who only doesnt count as /ISG/ because he's on "TV" (TVvitter) instead of youtube
>>2757820what's the point of that
>>2757824They weren’t all part of the same tranche?
Whatever, they’re equally terrible.
I hate how much USApol accurately represents the American polity's complete inability to form consensus on anything except worshiping Israel. We will not have American Communism in our lifetime. This place is doomed. None of you will ever have the moral convictions of Lenin or Mao to risk your life for a better world. Bordiga is a Trot btw stop worshiping his inaction you fucking losers.
>>2757827>the government of Myanmar has been supported by UkraineI don't know man, the support of a country with 12 CIA bases operating within it can only be a poison pill
>>2757832Yes and? Myanmar on the other hand is a huge clusterfuck with many organic movements among the rebels, and some of them are communists litteraly supported and armed by the PRC who for once doesn't do nothing
>>2757845Correct. Parenti was anti-Communist colonizer who always called Xizang "tibet." "Tibet" is colonizer term. Xizang is correct. Parenti slander Communist China.
>Finally, let it be said that if Tibet’s future is to be positioned somewhere within China’s emerging free-market paradise, then this does not bode well for the Tibetans. China boasts a dazzling 8 percent economic growth rate and is emerging as one of the world’s greatest industrial powers. But with economic growth has come an ever deepening gulf between rich and poor. Most Chinese live close to the poverty level or well under it, while a small group of newly brooded capitalists profit hugely in collusion with shady officials. Regional bureaucrats milk the country dry, extorting graft from the populace and looting local treasuries. Land grabbing in cities and countryside by avaricious developers and corrupt officials at the expense of the populace are almost everyday occurrences. Tens of thousands of grassroot protests and disturbances have erupted across the country, usually to be met with unforgiving police force. Corruption is so prevalent, reaching into so many places, that even the normally complacent national leadership was forced to take notice and began moving against it in late 2006. Workers in China who try to organize labor unions in the corporate dominated “business zones” risk losing their jobs or getting beaten and imprisoned. Millions of business zone workers toil twelve-hour days at subsistence wages. With the health care system now being privatized, free or affordable medical treatment is no longer available for millions. Men have tramped into the cities in search of work, leaving an increasingly impoverished countryside populated by women, children, and the elderly. The suicide rate has increased dramatically, especially among women. [72] China’s natural environment is sadly polluted. Most of its fabled rivers and many lakes are dead, producing massive fish die-offs from the billions of tons of industrial emissions and untreated human waste dumped into them. Toxic effluents, including pesticides and herbicides, seep into ground water or directly into irrigation canals. Cancer rates in villages situated along waterways have skyrocketed a thousand-fold. Hundreds of millions of urban residents breathe air rated as dangerously unhealthy, contaminated by industrial growth and the recent addition of millions of automobiles. An estimated 400,000 die prematurely every year from air pollution. Government environmental agencies have no enforcement power to stop polluters, and generally the government ignores or denies such problems, concentrating instead on industrial growth. [73] China’s own scientific establishment reports that unless greenhouse gases are curbed, the nation will face massive crop failures along with catastrophic food and water shortages in the years ahead. In 2006-2007 severe drought was already afflicting southwest China. [74] If China is the great success story of speedy free market development, and is to be the model and inspiration for Tibet’s future, then old feudal Tibet indeed may start looking a lot better than it actually was. BREAKING: DSA HAS CALLED A NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE IN PROTEST TO THE WAR IN IRAN
>>2757885>he used the angloid term when telling angloids to not fall for CIA propagandastop being retarded
>>2757893Never gonna happen, labor too disorganized, too many Americans have a seething hatred for anything "left wing" even if it benefits them, globalization shields capital from strikes, etc, etc.
>>2757885We have this thread every week
>>2757910Fucking hate all the glowfluncers like him
>>2757897Every slight of China, Every slight of the Communist Party, Every time he scoff at achievements of China is cia propanda. All of the sources he uses are CIA propaganda. Everything he says is cia propaganda.
>In the 1990s, the Han, the ethnic group comprising over 95 percent of China’s immense population, began moving in substantial numbers into Tibet. On the streets of Lhasa and Shigatse, signs of Han colonization are readily visible. Chinese run the factories and many of the shops and vending stalls. Tall office buildings and large shopping centers have been built with funds that might have been better spent on water treatment plants and housing. Chinese cadres in Tibet too often view their Tibetan neighbors as backward and lazy, in need of economic development and “patriotic education.” During the 1990s Tibetan government employees suspected of harboring nationalist sympathies were purged from office, and campaigns were once again launched to discredit the Dalai Lama. Individual Tibetans reportedly were subjected to arrest, imprisonment, and forced labor for carrying out separatist activities and engaging in “political subversion.” Some were held in administrative detention without adequate food, water, and blankets, subjected to threats, beatings, and other mistreatment. [46] >>2757920Theres no way a comunist comentator could ever organically disagree with dengism every non cia was on the same page about after 1990
>>2757920Parenti achived more for the socialist cause in the 7 minute speech yellow tinted that went viral on youtube that you will ever achive in your life
>>2757920this kind of schizophrenia makes me wish we had an epithet like "campist" that wasnt hollowed out by leftcoms
>>2757921Grok was named after her
>>2757910Imagine being a CIA agent and not knowing the history of the CIA. Wild.
The liberal "left" and right are both trying to extinguish anti-zionism and replace with with liberal-zionism, then presenting their own liberal-zionist controlled (barely even)opposition. To satisfy the growing antipathy towards Zionazoids. Which of course, as the glowies know is not borne of solidarity or any sort of organized movement, it's just that Zionists are just very disagreeable in person and as a collective due to the enormous entitlement coming from being a fanatical supremacist drunk on validation from the world hegemon.
The actual demand of the masses is not anti-Zionism, or anti-imperialism or anything remotely political. They hate having Palestine insert incongruousness in their perfectly smoothbrained worldview and hysterical response of their politicians and being scolded by class-protected Zionazis.
They are just tired of having to look or hear about any more disgusting Israelis and their socially divisive impact. That's the average apolitical pro-palestine person. The moment Israel stops being the center of the NATOids media consumption, the Palestinian activists become the next target in line just because they keep bringing Israelis up.
>>2757961You have schizophrenia and probably smell really bad IRL.
>>2757966that was true before they got nukes.
>>2757974
continue being imperialist of course
>>2757977Based old lady probably named Barbara
>>2757959
do we get heavenly restrictions
>>2757973
it's fake
New thread
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>>2758001>>2757996
lol
>>2757991
always have been
>>2757973>>2758000>>2757997yeah it was fake, the place where I found it immediately deleted it after I posted it here. oops.
>>2757948it's just shitposting and falseflagging
This /ooosah/pol thread is full (like your bellies with treats).
Will some brave yank bake the next already?
>>2754541same reason early textile factories in the 1800s let gals get jobs: opportunism.
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