🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<One Vengeance For All Edition
>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
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https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
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https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
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https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
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https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
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https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
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https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
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https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/ US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025)
Jailhouse Reading:
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https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf – Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete?
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https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf –
How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation
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https://www.jailhouselaw.org/ — the nation lawyer's guild's guide to being a jailhouse lawyer
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https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/ — Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement
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https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/ — An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls
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https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf — Prisoners’ Self-Help
Litigation Manual
⚒️ LABOR!
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https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/ – Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when
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https://aflcio.org/strike-map – AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker
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https://www.bls.gov/wsp/ – Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker
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https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/ – IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999)
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https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo – IWW Work Place Organizing Guide
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar)
⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md – deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done
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https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list – coups and regime changes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes – Wikipedia: United States War Crimes
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https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq – /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006]
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https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798 – More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone.
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https://www.slavevoyages.org/ Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade
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https://slaveryandremembrance.org/UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery
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https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/ – First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery
📺 Glowie News 📺
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https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html• Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us• Burger House:
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Jacobin:
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guideEssential American Politik📖
• 📖 WEB Dubois - Black Reconstruction –
https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf• 📖 Eugene Deb's Fourth of July Speech –
https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People!, Fred Hampton –
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-theres-people-fred-hampton• 📖 War is a Racket - Smedley Bulter –
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins - Vine Deloria Jr. –
http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation - Lincoln –
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation• 📖 Common Sense - Thomas Paine –
https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States - Dunbar Ortiz –
https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf• 📖 War is a Racket - Smedley Butler –
https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf• 📖 Fred Hampton - Power Anywhere There's People –
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-theres-people-fred-hampton• 📖 Huey Long - Share Our Wealth –
https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speechWhich side are you on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPEOld thread:
>>2754534 Fuck ZOG
>>2758003nazi brainworms, go back
the real new thread is here
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>>2758029>muh epsteinite human trafficking "playboy" magazine is US historyiran's AI slop about liberating the world from America is objectively superior and will be remembered longer.
>>2758033But if it's a nuke Lance, why would the vest part be necessary? You could leave it far from the target and remote detonate it. Your sci-fi pitch hasn't passed my suspension of disbelief.
>>2758036Iran doesn't even have nukes. That's step 1.
>>2758033the fact that the entire room doesn't erupt into laughter at the obviously retarded shit he is saying is a remarkable exercise in bourgeois class solidarity.
anons, if there are no good communist groups in the USA, why dont leftypol anons make one
>>2758045because that's terrible opsec strategy
>>2758045Because leftypol is 50% anarchists and 50% reactionaries. Neither of them want a Communist party.
>>2758048im not talking about making some sort of cell, but a non cucked party like
>>2758052 said i guess
>>2758033A neutron bomb suicide vest would be funny if only because it’s insane overkill.
>>2758068Did you really not get my point or did you just want to reply with a non-sequitur? I'm saying imagine trying to arbitrarily create a country out of thin air composed of all the Christian sects of the world. Jehovah's Witness, Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, Mormons, Evangelicals, Orthodox, Christian Scientists. It's just pure insanity. And like I was saying, the only unified sense of Jewishness is Zionism. A lot of these Christian churches I mentioned don't even consider the others Christian. It's the same with the Jews and imagine trying to form a country out of that.
>>2758061> Imagine if there was Christian Zionismthis is bait, right? someone show this anon the clip of the christian evangelist freaks telling children that israel is better than them lol
>>2758073wasn't the crusades kinda trying to do that
>>2758075How are you guys this dense? I already wrote an explainer for you:
>>2758073 >>2758059people will say shit like this as if "having a culture" is some objective moral good. show me a human that was not raised by other humans with their own language, ideas, & behaviors and then you can talk about people "not having a culture."
there is nothing essentially good about culture, culture is a fact of human life. whatever specific categorizing you do none of that shit matters except understanding what is happening. youre trying to valorize culture with this bullshit moralization to say fuck these people in particular because you either dont really believe and/or understand the actual reasons why zionists are an enemy.
>>2758075He's not saying that Christian zionists don't exist. He's saying if modern Christians had the mentality of Zionist towards Christianity
>>2758077i didn't see that until after i replied.
>>2758062why are cis women like this?
>>2758079>if modern Christians had the mentality of Zionist towards Christianitygive it time. all abrahamoids have plenty of opportunities to become as schizo as zios. as communism, materialism, and atheism continue to become bigger and more powerful, abrahamoids may even put aside their past differences to do super-zionism. everyone from rastas to mormons will team up to defeat communism.
>>2758083I don't see time bringing together Protestants and Catholics.
>>2757962Yeah, I'm sure he's really outraged. Anyway, to put it plainly: Tucker is controlled opposition ( almost too generous of a label but it's the best I can think of) and his role to obscure and re-frame reality as well as legitimize certain narratives. And to, in general, divert discontent into ideological cul-de-sac. he'll rebrand his rhetoric in whichever way he need to serve his interest, which is maintaining the US status as an empire, even if a regional one.
he even says in the video these clips are from that his real issue is that the empire is under poor stewardship. He doesn't critique the existence of a US empire, he normalizes it and frames it as in the interest of the American public. Any "leftist " sloganeering or talking points from him (and the power elite in general) or just in service of preserving their class interest. Which is an obvious fact to any run of the mill communist. Which makes the constant attempts of this brigade to sell the left on tucker all the more pointless.
>>2758087What's surprising to me is that anybody believes this is going to work. that they have spent so much time looking for this perfect animal and have not succeeded at it at all
>>2758059>there is no Jewish culturewhat do you mean? yiddish, dreidls, kippahs, sidelocks, the torah, tanakh, talmud, kabbalah, teffilin, circumcision, bar mitzvahs, etc.
like… it's a culture, right? all that predates zionism by a long time.
>>2758089>Yeah, I'm sure he's really outragedAs I said in the last thread, I don't care about Tucker's morals. I don't care about his morals nor do I care about his views or if he is anti-Imperialist. I care about his actions in regards to who he is platforming and giving the ability to speak to millions of people, especially since he's giving them complete softball questions to just destroy Israel expose war crimes and expose crimes by the US too all while opposing these wars. I do not care if he thought his reward for doing this is that he's going to get a plate full of babies or that he's going to get a billion dollars. I simply care about the action being done
>>2758073You said
>imagine if there is a Christian zionismWhich I didn't need to because it exists.
>>2758094no, you just don't understand him. his words mean a totally different thing than they say and you're stupid for not having psychic powers
>>2758093When Tucker gives his 1000th interview, Palestine will be free!
>>2758078>>2758100What kind of autism level is this where after I explained what I meant in terms you understood you're still debating my perhaps ambiguous statement?
>>2758082For real. Every time I look at a woman I wonder what depraved things she's into and why isn't she doing them with me.
>>2758108Everyone understood your point, being cryptic adds no validity to it.
>>2758110Bro, seriously, you're like on robot level consciousness. I feel bad for you.
>>2758112>i'm a giant fucking faggot with no point, and I'm so sorry for bothering youDon't worry, I forgive you. after all, if you can change what you say after you say it, then I can also change what you say after you say it. I like these rules you've introduced!
>>2758111They did understand my point, but you didn't, yes.
>>2758113Sorry for the misdiagnosis, this is scizophrenia.
>>2758121let's recap
you said something
then you backtracked, but wouldn't admit that was what you were doing. two of us noticed. rather than go "yeah i bactracked and changed my point." you did a sneaky little thing where you pretended you actually meant something else all along. now you're mad people noticed and pretending they're mentally ill for noticing.
>>2758093Tucker content will end the Iran war and bring us closer to socialism. The more Tucker content there is, the closer to communism we become. Marx bless this content maker.
>>2758125>I must defend the Tucker!You can't help yourself.
It's like an addict
>>2758129Notice I didn't attack Tucker once, I attacked your parasocial relationship with your legacy media senpai.
>>2758128look. it's ok. you were ignorant and didn't know christian zionists exist. why not just admit that? What's with this weird behavior?
>>2758061>I mean it's fucking crazy. Imagine if there was Christian Zionismhe said this, then proceeded to crash out and call everyone autistic for telling him that there was such a thing LOL
>>2758125Brother they just hate America and want to see it fall
Tucker knows we have to change if we want to keep this country from falling to anarchy
>>2758132There is nothing remarkable to say except most posters here are lower than LLM and also children. I am rhe fool for respinding at all to the peanut gallery. I apologize.
>>2758138you can't even stay on the topic you started. you just insult people. because you have that big of an ego. even LLMs admit when they're wrong. meanwhile you just keep twisting words.
>>2758139> you just insult people. because you have that big of an ego. You are now boohooing because I insulted you? Did you not insult me repeatedly and to begin with?
>>2758136if i want multipolarism style interviews I'll go to ben norton or breakthrough news or something instead of the ex-fox guy. i'm glad for him that he's less reactionary now but i don't trust it and never will. it seems like poisoning the well, excuse the analogy.
>>2758135>>2758136Your senpai will never notice you
>>2758141>imagine if christian zionism was a thing<it is>ummmmmmmm actually when i said "imagine if christian zionism was a thing" i meant something else completely different you FUCKING AUTISTIC RETARD<wow that's not very mature of you>WHY ARE YOU CRYING?!?!?!!?this "conversation" summarized
>>2758138you're on tor node because you already got banned for shitting your pants once
>>2758142The CIA ordered Tucker Carlson to go into view the Iranian president with no tough questions at all. This is bad to happen for people who are against like America. This was beneficial for America to for millions of Americans to hear from the Iranian president when they refused to put this type of thing on American television
All of the people who are like hyperzionist and attacked him relentlessly for this. They had gotten messages from the CIA to tell them to attack him so they can make it appear like he's not a CIA asset
>>2758148it's cool that republican boomers can use tucker carlson as a sort of ben norton figure now that he's gotten fired or whatever
>>2758144>>2758143>>2758142Tucker Carlson was ordered by the CIA to go visit a refugee camp of Palestinians who have had limbs blown off and are completely disabled and they told him to broadcast this to millions of people because this helps United States hegemony for people to see disabled Palestinian children and people who are suffering from Israeli bombs and American bomb.
Some people just don't get it. They don't think deep enough of how this is a 4D chest plan where this helps the United States for people to see this. But Tucker is a CIA asset. He was sent to do this to benefit America
>>2758148>>2758150Republicans are going to feel so radical that they're adopting Obama era political policies.
>>2758154As I asked you in the last thread show me Obama saying the things about Israel and wars that Tucker Carlson's guests say. Please provide me the statements by Barack Obama. I will wait for you because you didn't provide any of them for me in the last thread
>>2758155I don't care if he notices me. I care that people notice those Palestinians that are completely disabled and have limbs blown off and that millions get to see it
>>2758156>he still cares about politicians saying thingslol
>>2758157>I don't care if he notices me.The lady doth protest too much, methinks
>>2758093 and as I said in the last thread in my response to this thought terminating cliche:
how? how do you gain from tucker Carlson gaining prominence and legitimacy? Just because his talking points are more popular doesn't mean anything. Regardless of anything the US can't exist as it does currently in a would we're it isn't the world hegemon. Even if he act's like he doesn't want to intervene in other countries he knows the US needs to shore up influence and resource s to sustain itself. He knows (or at least I assume he's smart enough to know) that the US needs it's status as holder of the world reserve currency. So one way or another the petro dollar must be maintained. I'm assuming in this case the US "sharing" the world with China while the US sties to seize Venezuela, Nigeria, and Greenland
>>2758158The person brought up Obama's policies so that is why I'm asking them about Obama. They are who brought him up, not me
>>2758146You got me. What do you think spazzing out is adding to your cause, tbh responding to your autistic rants also reflects poorly on me. But I'm just tired of this autism. Keep that shit in check.
>>2758164policies=/=words
Politicians say a lot of things and most of them are meaningless unless it results in policy.
>>2758162Are you able to insulate people from all of carlsons other viewpoints in this attempt to platform his views on Palestine?
>>2758161You're fundamentally missing the entire point of how I view this. I do not care about Tucker Carlson's views his points, his morals, his ethics, his motives, his intents I don't care about none of this
I care about who is being put on his show for millions of people to see and there is plenty of people that I can demonstrate to you who are absolutely not American chills whatsoever in any type of form and are just straight up against wars straight up exposing wars straight up, exposing immense amount of things related to. There is no way for me to view somebody like Abby Martin as an example and just have to question myself if she has a good intent for me or something. Someone like that being put on a show is a net positive and I'm not going to debate semantics about it. Same thing as a guy like tony Aguilar who is literally breaking down for well over an hour how Israel was slaughtering civilians while handing out food? Supposedly cuz he was directly tied to this and is familiar with it. There's no way to tell me that this is not beneficial to my beliefs of supporting Palestinians
Your focus is on Tucker Carlson's views, morals, perspectives, intents I do not care about any of this. You are trying to like implement your morality and what you value onto me when I give zero value to these things.
>>2758169No, I cannot do that at all. He brings on horrible people too who are white supremacists who are demented Trump supporters who advocate for absolutely horrible things. Tucker Carlson has plenty of views that are overtly, racist and despicable. And at the same time he also platforms people who do advocate for good things and are speaking out about things that are beneficial for people to hear in regards to wars in regards to what governments do in regards to crimes and in regards to ideological things as well.
And no point in my championing this guy to be like a liter of a country to be a leader of movement to be a beacon of morality to be a guy with good intentions. I don't care about any of this.
>>2758168So Tucker Carlson brings on guests Oftentimes who are activist former military of sorts run certain organizations have been whistleblowers are advocates for different type of things and these people are actively working in these fields in regarding to like Israel, Palestine, different types of wars and so on
These people genuinely believe these things and genuinely fight for them. So if your perspective is only that, if a person is not like in politician who is actively implementing policy than all of these actions regarding activism regarding speaking up about things, running organizations or any of this is just pointless. And all that matters is if a guy has been like the president or the senator and then that is what they do. Then what you're going to tell me that like Abby Martin if she's given some type of power, she's just going to implement Obama's policies or what? Because she has not ruled in any type of way
>>2758168Also, my point was that these guests that he brings on are not advocating for Obama's policies whatsoever, not even close. They consider Obama absolutely despicable person and not from a right side. Not from like a based populist Trump supporter type thing. No people who genuinely consider that Obama pushed for genocides and implemented them. They are not pushing the same things that Obama is pushing at all
>>2758174And if you're only counter to this is oh they have not put in some policy themselves so they're just talking. Okay, not everybody has the privilege of becoming Obama and becoming the president of the most powerful country in the whole world. There's other people who have to depend on their convictions and what they argue for and what they fight for.
>>2758170It's funny you bring up Abby Martin because she criticizes Tucker as just content farming the left to recuperate radical ideas into a liberal framework. Tucker Carlson’s public evolution since leaving mainstream cable operates as a deliberate rhetorical project that reframes dissident energy across the political spectrum. By selectively amplifying left-leaning critics—antiwar activists, populist economists, and disaffected progressives—he grants them mainstream visibility while binding their complaints to his own framing. Carlson translates structural critiques into narratives about elite incompetence, national decline, or establishment betrayal, converting demands for systemic change into issues of restoration or reform that are more palatable to broad audiences.
This pattern—platforming, reframing, and redirecting—channels radical momentum into institutional and managerial solutions rather than transformative politics. Personalization and theatrical interviews turn structural debates into personality-driven stories that mainstream outlets and centrist politicians can co-opt; cross-ideological optics (placing antiwar leftists beside nationalist conservatives) create the appearance of a mass anti-establishment coalition while obscuring divergent ends. Energized audiences are nudged toward technocratic or electoral remedies—regulatory tweaks, foreign-policy restraint, or support for moderate candidates—blunting the potential for sustained grassroots movement-building. Ultimately, Carlson’s approach functions as a recuperative mechanism: amplifying critique while narrowing acceptable solutions, thereby rerouting political energy into channels that sustain existing institutions rather than overturning them.
>>2758171>And at the same time he also platforms people who do advocate for good things and are speaking out about things that are beneficial for people to hear in regards to wars in regards to what governments do in regards to crimes and in regards to ideological things as well. Breadtubers do this too unfortunately yet you dislike them. As you have said you do not actually care about the issues you speak of, you are simply championing carlson.
>>2758178Who are the people that breadtubers are bringing on that are useful for people to listen to.
>>2758179Don't. This is beneath you.
>>2758167you're both robots. you just keep calling him autistic and he just keeps recalling the time you were wrong. get a room.
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>And if you're only counter to this is oh they have not put in some policy themselves so they're just talking. you're the one who's stating their entire world view on their "actions" and are now undermining your own point. And presenting entry-ism as a "privilege" (clearly just throwing out "leftist" buzzwords now) and beyond that none of that explains why you keep trying to signal boots Tucker Carlson on a communist image board
>>2758173>>2758174>>2758175All of this is just doing the lib thing of throwing the radicals a bone here and there. Call me when he says he's ready to see the end of capitalism that communism is the only path forward. Otherwise this is all white noise to me and you're just jerking yourself off
>>2758182It is absolutely a privilege to become the president of the United States. Not even a hundred people have been able to achieve that. That is not how some buzzword it's the actual meaning of privilege
There's no action undermining my points. There's people going on in front of millions of people advocating for Palestinians advocating against wars, exposing war crimes by the United States and by Israel. This is action that changes the minds of many people that are consuming this content. That is an absolute positive to me. I do not care if Tucker's intent for this was that he believes it's going to like deliver him children that he can rape and eat and get a billion dollars. I don't care. I just care about the interview happening and the amount of people that are seeing itI do not care if Tucker's intent for this was that he believes it's going to like deliver him children that he can rape and eat and get a billion dollars. I don't care. I just care about the interview happening and the amount of people that are seeing it
If Fox News tomorrow decided to change his a platform entirely and started broadcasting on all their channels interviews directly from Gaza with gazans and having them say the perspectives of what's going on and then bringing on constantly Iranian officials and giving them softball questions. I would say Fox News is freaking awesome. I would hope that millions of people would begin to watch this cuz it would be a very good thing for people to be interacting with this. I would not sit there and talk about what they previously did or why they're doing this. I don't care. I care that people have access to this
>>2758187> I don't carewe know
>>2758186Yo, I have a repeated so many times that I don't care about Tucker's ideology beliefs in any of the sort. If Tucker Carlson tomorrow started saying anti-imperialism is good and things like that that wouldn't even move my opinion on this in any kind of way. What I care about is who is going on his show and what they are saying. I just see him as a vehicle for this. I genuinely have zero care for what his actual views are at all
So clearly you do clearly. Your value is in his morality. What is true ideology is what his motive is. These things are very important for you. Clearly they have zero importance for me. I do not care for this guy to be some leader. Be some activist be some advocate don't care. I care that he has one of the 10 largest platforms in the entire United States which is the global hegemon for Western News publications and the amount of reach that he has and that these are the people being put on his show. That's all I care about
>>2758189Okay I'm making clear for the reason that I see value in this due to what I see a benefit in. While there's clearly various other posters here that are seeking out something entirely different from this, so that is their hang up
>>2758190>>2758177asking an LLM to identify LLM is embarassing but that is so fucking obviously an AI post. fuck off clanker but unironically
>>2758192>Your value is in his moralitypeep the flag.
I couldn't care less.
I can't help but notice you are fixated and must spam the Tucker every-chance you get because platforming for platforming sake and more platforming and "gee, I love platforming". Shit's silly and I'm going point it out each time you do it because it amuses me how much you try to defend this liberal "market of ideas" non-sense.
>>2758201If people's opinions did not matter at all, there would not be so much Zionist advocacy with organizations paid people. Other people censored people punished for their views. Millions and billions of dollars spent on different news outlets. Different films created politicians paid off to say things. If people's views were completely irrelevant, propaganda would never be necessary.
>>2758187Regardless of how you feel, this is a communist message board and the user base will obviously see the world through that lens. If you can't actually engage with any of those ideas and counter points. what the point of it? It's not like you'll convince anyone that doesn't already agree with you If your don't actually explain you're position in a way that refutes what people are telling you
> I do not care if Tucker's intent for this was that he believes it's going to like deliver him children that he can rape and eat and get a billion dollars. I don't care. I just care about the interview happening and the amount of people that are seeing itI do not care if Tucker's intent for this was that he believes it's going to like deliver him children that he can rape and eat and get a billion dollars. I don't care. Positing shit like this doesn't convince anyone. People are supposed to believe you're some kind of advocate for the Palestinians, but you say shit like this? Your concerned about Palestine, but are indifferent to whosoever is "raising awareness" commuting virtually identical act to some other group?
>>2758205Not really. Propaganda mostly pacifies and misdirects. Especially anything to do with the culture war like the Tucker or other "raising awareness" slop
like apolitical Palestine activism, flotillas and such. You cannot draft people with this propaganda. You can only psychologically batter them into apathy.
People like Tucker play a controlled opposition role, the culture war favors this dynamic to monopolize discourse. In his case Tucker can appear to be less controlled than the average contrarian who does it for the money, because Tucker Carlson is likely a spook. Or at least enough of a well connected asset, that he doesn't have to worry about losing access. This sort of "freethinking conservative" has always been Tucker's shtick. The reason why he's off Fox is probably because there is little difference between Fox and OAN nowadays, they kiss the ground where Trump steps. More than any lawsuit concerning Dominion voting machines. He cannot perform his role, while the editorial line is entirely servile to the clown on the white house and said clown happens to be a (R)epublican.
Tucker Carlson: The Elite Pedigree of a Brilliant Cosplaying “Populist” https://www.mintpressnews.com/tucker-carlson-biography-nicaragua-cia/279782/ >>2758220>Your concerned about Palestine, but are indifferent to whosoever is "raising awareness" commuting virtually identical act to some other group?Because Palestinians on the ground doesn't care compared to you. Tucker is a journalist showing and talking about what is happening there with a huge platform. You just have a personal vendetta against him because of your image of Tucker as the pinnacle conservative guy
>>2758151>>2758162>glowies never ever cultivate groups of outcasts for their ends>glowies never groom people who are supposedly against the establishment to do their bidding>glowies are notorious for always putting all their eggs in one basket and not diversifying their contatcs>it's not like tulsi gabbard was blasted for voicing a different opinion on syria>it's not like the media absolutely despise donald j. trumpyou are an actual child if you say this. it's fine to make such mistakes if this is your first time but don't make a habit of falling for it.
>>2758245and trump was raising awareness about how america is having too many wars and there should be peace. many people fell for it. don't fall for it this time.
>>2758245>Because Palestinians on the ground doesn't care compared to younow you're putting this on Palestinians?
>You just have a personal vendetta against him because of your image of Tucker as the pinnacle conservative guyI promise you I don't consider him worthy of a grudge nor do I consider him the "pinnacle" anything let alone "conservatism". He's a dime-a-dozen and I think they'll be many more of his kind in near future wither due to the US's retreat from the middle east or US decline in general.
Tucker should be liquidated like Tulsi and RFK.
I haven't looked at the news in well over a week. How bad is it?
>>2758264Take a pillow and scream in it
>>2758264just as bad and getting worse
>>2758245If you think "raising awareness", convincing people, or showing images of atrocities will change the political landscape if any meaningful way you are either a child or foolish radlib cattle. Read at least tier one of the board sticky or get out
>>2758395Just say you're functionally illiterate lib
>>2758395so based. you owned him hard.
The people trying to court former trump supporters by bringing up how he betrayed peace are retarded
None who voted for trump seriously thought he was for peace unless they are gullible enough to think he's bringing peace by bombing Iran
>>2758410There's people here and on the broader left falling for democrats who claim to be for peace. Why not Trump? In the first place, Trump flipped a lot of Obama voters.
>>2758258>He's a dime-a-dozen and I think they'll be many more of his kind in near future wither due to the US's retreat from the middle east or US decline in general.Which is a good thing
>>2758411I forgot that. The number of russian recruits spiked when Trump was elected president so people across the whole world fell for it.
>>2758412No it's not. What you're looking at is anti-zionism as culture war, emptied of any possible liberatory or socialist content. You're falling for it. All that's happening that now it's normal for teenagers and people who are mentally teenagers to say ZOG and goy on the internet. Israel has become a patsy for problems caused by the everyday operation of capital. An easily identified thought terminating subject. The palestine movement has been a massive disappointment that keeps on giving.
>>2758240ok that is very funny
>>2758232The sugar cane mafia really can't let it go.
so are there really no communist parties that aren't cucked like CPUSA
>>2758451Not true, there is one communist party in existence that isn't cucked: Felix's totally real and not made up party that he's intelligence director of which is simultaneously the largest anti-imperialist force in the west but also smol beans who will crumble if CPUSAnon calls the police on them so we cant know what they're even called
Anyone going to the protests today?
>a third national protest where people gather and do… nothing
I am genuinely not trying to be a dorito-encrusted leftist keyboard warrior when I say this but - what's the fucking point?
If even .01% of the people involved in these No Kings gatherings engaged in direct action the country would be so different.
These almost feel like a psy-op honestly. Like the Two Minute Hate from 1984, a way to let out your frustration while preventing you from destroying the source of that frustration.
>>2758479Any and all slight of the anti-fascist platner resistance is boon to maga fascism.
>>2758481Shut the fuck up hasbara I'm not talking to you.
>>2758479The point, as communists and/or anarchists, is to use the opportunity to radicalize the masses and direct them against their true enemies. Without our direction these protests are aimless and wont result in anything in the long term, but with our participation we can raise class consciousness and direct these libs towards orgs which will actually do shit.
The entire history of the US is fascist infighting, Marx glazing the union cause was a sign he’s not to be trusted
>>2758484Problem is that these No Kings protests are all organized way in advance by liberals and they distribute instructions telling people not to do anything impactful. They are useless by design.
>>2758482You are cointel fed wrecker. Your stale criticisms of the people's fascist anti-fascist platner united front aid maga fascism. You call it hate week like true 1984 rightoid. We need these protest for the midterm
>>2758487On the national level they're organized by libs, but on the local level (and this one is primarily local) they're just kinda organized by people who more or less just show up. It's very easy for a group of a dozen or so communists to become the "face" of one of these protests, heavily raising visibility and radicalizing the masses, especially if you're in a small town
>>2758496The magnate orchestrated PEOPLE united front
Originally it’s “no oligarchs” but oligarchs fund the dem party so now it’s “no kings” as if a president is anything other than an elected monarch
>>2758500they had to change it in countries like the UK too
>>2758484>The point, as communists and/or anarchists, is to use the opportunity to radicalize the massesHow can you even "radicalize" them in a consequential manner if the biggest "socialist" org (DSA) will just redirect them into the liberal establishment again?
>>2758496>It's very easy for a group of a dozen or so communists to become the "face" of one of these protestsHas this actually happened? It should have already if "it's very easy".
The idea that you even need to “radicalize” the masses in the first place proves that you’re wrong about any of their revolutionary potential in the first place
>>2758516If they were actually revolutionary they would be revolutionary by themselves, without your interference
>>2758512yeah true Marx and Engels shouldn't have bothered with the Communist Manifesto it was a silly idea, the workers would have figured it out themselves, and if they didn't figure it out they were unworthy
>>2758479Try reading Marx he'll sort you out
>>2758500The radlibs are happy to call it done. They'll talk about Trump leaving office like some sort of hard fought revolution. Then, continue his policies with a different branding. No matter what, they have "won" in a Rachel Maddow/John Oliver kind of way. So they can shrug and do victory laps for another couple of years.
>>2758500lmao seriously? that's so cucked
>>2758507>How can you even "radicalize" them in a consequential manner if the biggest "socialist" org (DSA) will just redirect them into the liberal establishment again?since radicalization would happen locally I'd assume the goal would be to have set up alternative organizations that wouldn't just tell them to vote democrat like the DSA or CPUSA
it really does suck that communism and socialism are both basically poisoned terms at this point to most of the american populace
>>2758507Most of the DSA is working to break from the Dems at this point but even so if the more radical factions of the DSA aren't to your liking it's hardly a requirement to promote them, the simple creation of mutual aid and community defense networks is much more impactful and doesn't tie people to a party which runs the risk of libbing out. And yes it has happened on several occasions, obviously though it's not going to show up in the news because they'd never platform communists
>>2758522>it really does suck that communism and socialism are both basically poisoned terms at this point to most of the american populaceAnarchism alone remains a terrifying yet majestic thing. It haunts the minds of liberals and the haute bourgeoisie alike, a terrifying specter in the eyes of the tyrants and reactionaries.
>>2758519No one needed to write a single book or pamphlet to convince the bourgeois to overhaul feudalism, Common Sense and Rights of Man were spontaneous and popular among the aristocrats of the time too
In fact I’ll go even further, the bourgeois are still the revolutionary class and the proletariat are the reactionary class
>>2758479Honestly, you're valid.
Protests are practically a sport here in France and we still don't have socialism.
>>2758544Damned if you do damned if you don't. One day we will convince the three hundred forty million people of America to commit mass sepuku. Then you will be free.
The only reason any communist should bother with these "protests" is to scout the area for key anti-communist personalities and speakers, especially those associated with fascist orgs like the CPUSA and DSA. Then target them at a range with your cadres snipers and mow down as many of the rest as you can as they try to escape. Of course if there were more than a few hundred communists in America this would have already happened over a year ago and there would be no more of these embarrassing demonstrations
>>2758544None of those are businesses
>>2758524>Most of the DSA is working to break from the Demsi've been hearing this for a while now, thing is, I don't think trying to "radicalize" libs in protests is a waste of time but there are already lots leftists is that org but they are just left there collecting dust in the cuck chair, I think the ones that need to be "radicalized" first are them
>>2758519>the workers would have figured it out themselveswhen Marx and Engels wrote that there was already a workers movement and plenty were already "radicalized", they wrote just to ground that and orient that in a scientific undertanding of what was happening
I think a mistake leftists often do is thinking the workers are "behind" them, I have observed that many times is leftists themselves that are not ready and project this into the workers and the masses
>>2758546You speak as if the imperialists will kill themselves. The euroamerikan population is not so large.
>>2758550Wrong. 80% are PACs and PACs are businesses, but 100% of the orgs are capitalist. Alfcio is capitalist labor aristocrat. Jewish bend arc is capitalist. Red wine and blue is capitalist. Its all capitalist
>>2758526it's too bad anarchism is fucking retarded
>>2758572>anarchism is fucking retardedthis is true, but from an historical perspective anarchism was an important keystone in the building of the revolutionary movement of the 19th century that culminated with it being overcomed with scientific socialism and total bolshevik victory
said movement was destroyed in the late 20th century and needs to be rebuilt, if this ever happens anarchist praxis will have a role to play on that again you like or not since socialist and communists parties in most liberal democracies have been rendered structurally impotent if not completely co-opted by social-democrats
>>2758479slacktivism at its finest
>>2758588Proportionally more afro americans are where in the military than whitoids
Imperialism is economic not racial blood or any humans vs orcs cope you guys have
>>2758573Gadadfi could do better than rice tbh
>>2758606Economy is part of it. It's the flag that they force children to pledge allegiance to and the bureaucracy required to maintain that allegiance until death that provides the pawns of war. There are better ways to actually make a living.
>>2758611They say no kings, but would they say no masters?
No kings is nothing more than blind slaves and masters marching for the masquerade, the great sleep, capitalism re-branded.
The shitlib must and will suffer many times over before they can receive only an inkling of what is needed to be done.
Those who have avoided or escaped liberal insanity need not let their suffering become theirs, and have better, more important things to do than appeal to the actually insane.
>>2758610Real communists ruthlessly exterminate fascists wherever they congregate, especially events like these where they try to recruit from easily enthralled liberals
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