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What is the Marxist take on Solipsism? (Or more acuratelly, metaphysical Solipsism: The idea only the self exists and all the universe is merely an image plastered onto it.) Ive always followed this line of thinking, despite being a materialist in parallel. It just sounds incredibly hard to sincerely refute.

Solipsism is the highest form of idealism. Marxism is materialist and therefore against solipsism.

Lenin charges Ernst Mach with Solipsism in Materialism and Empirio-Criticism

Solipsism is true.
Hence, you are a projection of my mind.

Doesn’t DiaMat serve the function of preventing solipsism?

>>2761180
The material processes of the world could also simply be a projection of my mind. They can also just not have ocurred at all. How do we even know the past has ocurred and the universe did not come into existance along with I?

We don't make philosophy. Read economy.

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>>2761184
>The material processes of the world could also simply be a projection of my mind.
if a bus is coming at you, you will move out of the way. all solipsists stop being solipsists the moment they are in danger.

Main character syndrome

>What is the Materialist take on Idealism?
I hate this fucking website on everyone on it. Please kill yourself.

I think therefore I kill the bourgeoisie

>>2761168 this is such bs lol im sorry if im rude op but this is sooooo fake lol

>>2761168
Im not big fan of this metaphysical philosophical wankery. Every single phenomenon, including your consciousness, your abstract ideas, and your subjective projection of reality, are fundamentally physical.

>>2761255
Supposing that we, somehow, were able to fully copy every last atom of your brain: Would you have two consciences at once? It's fundamentally very hard to trace where our consciousness comes from, and exactly how others would have it. Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen? And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once? I personally believe it's ignorant to fully discard metaphysics, as there's a reasonable limit materialism can describe conciousness.

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>>2761293
Yes, there would be two identical minds at once. From that poing onwards, obviously, they will begin to diverge because being in different points of space will make them subject to slightly different stimuli.

>Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen?


I don't understand where you're going to here. You need your exact genetic make up in order to have your exact consciousness, but I need a diferent one to have mine. Chances of the present state of things occuring are not relevant to the problem of solipsism or of reductionism. If you are a materialist you believe that "chances" are just a mental model of our ignorance, they are not something that actually exists. God doesn't play dice, and all that.

>And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once?

If you are asking why you are inside your particular body you are pressuming that which you are wanting to prove, i.e., that you are something not physical tied somehow to a physical substrate. A materialist doesn't believe this, we believe you are your body, and "consciousness" is simply a word to describe the mental phenomena of your body. It's not necessary to understand the exact nature of consciousness to the last comma to presume it being of a physical nature, it's enough to merely extend to ourselves the knowledge we have of the world. Animals, trees, rocks, planets, parsimony dictates that whatever those things are we must be of the same nature, there is no reason to believe otherwise. So either everything is a soul tied to a body or everything is only body or everything is only soul.

You are on your Descartes era and you must trascend to best philosopher era, our prince Spinoza, the only TRUE materialist metaphyisician.


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