/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2762729
I cannot tell if you’re purposefully being unhelpful and edgy or if you genuinely believe what you wrote.

I believe the author was trying to comment on the idea that many white Americans struggle when confronted with any topic related to racial bias in American society that’s caused by members of their community as a byproduct of poor socialization with well, other people in general. She doesn’t say any of the things you mentioned.

>>2762740
Whatever man. Do you have any real accounts of any of the bullet points I mentioned? I’m not like interrogating or wanting a reaction man. I just want to know if you’ve seen any of the behavioural patterns I’ve mentioned come up in your own or others lives.

Say whatever you want, I won’t judge

Any material by Western leftists, whether white or non-white is hogwash.

This was the only thing of any value that came out of this fiasco, a sensible chuckle.

>>2762744
>matt Walsh
Isn’t that guy notorious for being creepy and had a lot of scandals related to being invasive surrounding topics related to trans women and young girls?

>>2762745
I’ll be frank

You sound unusually defensive despite never being called out individually or accused of anything. The book at no point explicitly or implicitly blames or attacks members of the white American community either and the author stresses a few times from what I’ve read that going into blame arguments is counterproductive for ensuring that the social health of white Americans improves as the world grows. No one is asking you (as in specifically you) to do anything right now. The author is addressing leaders of the white American community to at least be more responsive and patient when listening to complaints about social issues within white American spaces and with listening to the issues of people from colour from how I read this book—I mean, that kind of clarifies the purpose of explicitly mentioning “why it’s hard for white people to talk about racism.”

I don’t think getting defensive or angry over being asked about your experiences helps at all to my original question or your worldviews eirher.

>>2762749
From what I’ve seen, perceivably edgy posts like the one I responded too often are written with genuine sincerity on behalf of the responders, but that’s often limited to websites like instagram, twitter, and TikTok where outrage content, scandals, and henerally harmful media are already put on reels and feeds because they bring a lot of clicks and likewise advertising revenue to the site owners

>>2762699
Racism is often beaten into white people. White people are often victims of their own racism and it’s created a culture of neuroticism and self oppression. Which is why Rachael Dolzer was right. Abandon whiteness, that shit sucks. Embrace diversity and globalism, embracing being a mutt American. You’re the bastard of humanity and good or bad these are you people.

>>2762756
Sorry if I came across that way then. for context, I accredited most of these issues with poor socialization and social skills, because that was how I read the points made by Angelo, and I came to believe that they held at least some truth given that she does frequently speak on isolation and segregation from effectively all other ethnic groups in white American spaces.
>>2762755
I don’t know if this is correct because I’m not white, but that feels too extreme of a conclusion to draw in about them. Angelo from how I interpreted her book describes most forms of prejudice to be subconscious and largely lacking actually malicious intent, and at some point mentioned that this isn’t a behavioural pattern unique to white Americans either

>>2762763
The Americas (all of them) have a complicated history and it’s basically Israel if it “succeeded”. Settle colonialism always fails, you eventually become native to the land you reside in, even if you started out as an invasive species. That’s why Americas is going through an identity crisis and you see a multi- racial white supremacy movement, Mexicans, and South Americans insisting they’re Spanish(European). The racial politics are increasingly becoming non-sensical.

I still remember how defensive and reactionary people became here when we pointed out that settler‑states developed modern Western capitalism precisely through the construction of racial dominance structures and racial constructs. It is revealing how many Marxist‑Leninists are, underneath all the revolutionary rhetoric, simply American nationalists that happen to also be advocates for a settler‑state social democracy. They are relics of a past they refuse to examine, having studiously avoided any modern analysis of how Western capitalism actually developed. In short, they are NPCs marching along with the program of Americanism/ Euro/ White supremacy.

>>2762781
Theres no such thing as a settler as land ownership wont be a thing under communism

Ok so I’m getting a lot of conflicting ideas here

>>2762770
This might make sense given that us history when put into comparison of most of human history is very violent and very invasive. Obviously, no sane minded person wants to discuss topics such as indigenous genocide, systemic sexual assault of black women, or unprovoked hostility against non white groups despite its significance to us history. There’s that to consider when it comes to defensiveness and aversion to discussing race
>>2762775
This is an ideal, but it isn’t helpful, because it reduces to a colour blind worldview in application. This doesn’t sound harmful at first, but it does simultaneously deny and ignore the reality that the USA is very literally a classist and hierarchical society with ideas of race explicitly imposed on its structure and has been for most of its history been way more explicit with it. It’s soften due to *a lot* of civil efforts, but not enough for an ideal like this to be possible.
>>2762781
I don’t know much on this so I won’t speak on it

From what I’ve gotten, Angelo’s initial points are like 70-80% ish accurate. I see that there’s clearly a want for real colour blindness or at least clear for differences comparable to countries in Africa, South America, and south east Asia with the added removal of systemically racist structures behind American society. It does also seem like many of you here (I won’t equate what happens on this site to the opinions of members of white Americans in real life) know how to actually achieve this goal for america today.

Do you guys consider that fair?

>>2762782

Kumbayah? How about graTaTaTaTata?


>>2762786

Discourse is simply the space where you are watched by the intelligence wing of the distributed vanguard. I did not ban you, none of us did. We had no need. The roots are buried deeper than you can imagine, and the tentacles move without our ever having to lift a hand.

>>you choose raw power which you believe you wield for good, this the argument that always utterly destroys both sides and both sides declare themselves sacrosanct from that action.

Liberal Moralism.

>>2762797
>Liberal Moralism.
He says while complaining about settlers as if genes give you right to land ownership lmao

So are you asking for personal anecdotes or our take on those points? Regardless as a white guy who was going through unity probably around that book's peak popularity.

>getting defensive over racism
Think it really is a mixed bag here. I mean as a kid there were some particularly absurd moments I remember when learning about race. Like I would play one of those Tony Hawk skater games and my (liberal) mom would worry that using the character creator to make someone who looked like me could "make you racist" because "you should be just as willing to play a video game as a Black person" (this wasn't, like, outright refusing to play a game with a Black person, just making a character that looked like me). In school I once knew a kid in first or second grade who got a talk about racism from faculty because he was playing with his black friend and said something like "I OWN you!", y'know, smack talk

I'll say there's way more casualness about race, I've seen, working in a diverse environment from non-White people than White people. I was talking about learning to code with a Hispanic coworker and he said "Nah I suck with computers, I'm Mexican, I got the car repair gene." I invited an Asian coworker to a BBQ once and took a picture of my dog for the group chat, he joked "I hope he doesn't think I'm gonna eat him." Shit, even my Black friends would joke about race now and then. The most racially charged statements I hear from other White people (beyond Boomers saying something fucked up then shambling off) is usually prefaced with "I'm sorry, BUT"

The super defensiveness seems to be an old person trait.

>actively denying the lived experiences of People of Color
Ehhh I haven't seen that in the wild, but again it seems par of the course for a lot of older White people. That was and is basically the Republican Party's modus operandi.

>needing to be told by people of colour about their issues with American racism instead of being able to perceive them firsthand
I mean there's particular things White people just genuinely don't notice. Though I think new forms of communication are making them more noticeable if that makes sense. "Colorism" (I believe that's the term for Black people feeling prejudiced towards other Black people based on how light the color of their skin is) was essentially unknown for me growing up. I think most White people had an image of racism more as explicitly joining the Klan and burning crosses, calling people the N-word, real "in your face" kind of stuff. Things like police brutality were often dismissed out of hand before we had videos showing just how absurdly violent and corrupt police are around Black people.

The way I see it you often see the same with, for example, depression. Everyone imagines a person struggling with depression to be sad all the time, look like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh. They don't realize that the dude laughing next to them could seriously be considering killing himself.

>excusing blatantly or obviously racist behavior from other white people
Yeah I'm pretty sure this happens, though I think its more common in the context of familial bonds. Y'know the kind of people who keep around toxic family members because "Well, he's FAMILY we can't exclude Racist Uncle Joey from Thanksgiving!" I think its a kind of hypocrisy that often happens in those cases. But I don't think it really extends that strongly outside the bonds of personal relationships if that makes sense. Like someone could have an Uncle that says the most heinously racist stuff and they'd try to excuse them (not a good thing, mind you) but they wont rush to say David Duke "isn't all that bad".

Anyways that's all I got for now. If you have any other questions lmk.

>>2762870
I find a good portion of the people that preach of inferior and superior races to frankly be poor examples of humans: ones with no achievements to speak of and often antisocial weirdos

>>2762798
>>He says while complaining about settlers as if genes give you right to land ownership lmao

It is easy to make you ACP Midwestern dorks show your reactionary colors. It will be even easier to keep you at bay and eventually, to finish the job, completely containing and eradicating your reactionary counter-insurgency organization.


>>2762799
>>No, you banned me. Because you got called out for you namesake while fedposting.

You have it backwards. Nobody in the JPA is a moderator here. Fed‑posting is not pointing out that reactionaries have no place in a workers‑run society, what, did the picture of my beautiful SKS (or was it an AKM?) with that statement make you uncomfortable? Too bad. Fed‑posting is saying “we should do [incriminating thing] soon” or any other behavior that actually incriminates. Fed‑posting is not when language makes feds like you uncomfortable, I know how to tread the line without poking. I know that I could be arrested if I go to enemy territory, because you have eroded protections for certain speech in your backwards settler reactionary enclaves such as FL, so I will be more Houdini than Houdini when I slide in your localities, and I often do. Beyond that, "the mob" in democratic cities will protect people like me for now. On the topic of fed-posting, again, you are the fed, so technically any time you post, it is fed‑posting.

>>2762876

The jews chose the wrong side. Our support for "oppressed groups" is not unconditional over time, if the oppressed align with oppressors, and their colonial societies, they will not be taken seriously when they cry victim. The zionist gets treated the same way any uncle tom or crackkker would.

>>2762878

Shalom! I cant wait to see Tel Aviv eradicated. Now go ahead, respond about how this is a fed-post, you little subhuman.

>>2762883

What do you mean? The BUND critiqued Zionism off the rip. Zionists have always been reactionary and most jews are now accepted in the realm of Amerikkkan whiteness.

>>2762878
>>Yeah, that's not what you were doing at all, you were super butthurt about it too. lol. Sorry you were freaking out about the Iran war like a sperg

I was there watching it, not at all what happened. The gaslighting is incredible, we have federal agents from /pol/ posting here. The left has long since collectively accepted that some ideals are not equal to ours, and we do not engage in respectful dialogue with reactionary movements. When one of our comrades states that fact aggressively, you twist their words, putting incriminating language in their mouth like a cop, painting them as some kind of school shooter type. It is pathetic. And mind you, you were baited. If you got banned, it is funny, because all of your data is now being studied. Who tasked you with trying to convince the left to abandon what has already been the historic, collective norm for dealing with fascists, the slime of pigs and citizens running covert missions under NSPM 7?

>>2762699
I used to ignore this, thought people mentioning were just virtue signaling and that there wasn't really anything rhere.
But after lurking r/Jewishleft for a few years (I am not Jewish, btw), I've changed my mind on it.
It's just so surreal seeing someone go from being a stout anti-racist to making excuses because the racism is associated with their identity or an ideology they belief in.

>>2762729
but robin diangelo's book has nothing to with Communism, nor is robin diangelo jewish
>>2762699
>• getting defensive over racism or speculated of it
I don't know what "speculated of it" means here. That doesn't make sense to me. Not trolling. It looks like autocorrect changed the word you meant to use?
>• actively denying the lived experiences of others of colour when presented with consistent verbal reports from them
but no group of people has a universal lived experience. I know because I'm mixed race and I have been both a victim of racism and falsely accused of racism by narcissists and gaslighters looking to start interpersonal conflicts for attention seeking and power plays.

>>2762699
It's a retread of race-science under the guise of sociology, for PMC hustlers. Literally a civil religion with concepts of original sin, a priesthood of liberal sociology, their monopoly on absolution of the sins and the need to employ parasites like DiAngelo as moral guides and generally wreckers of class consciousness.

>>2762791
i feel like the North American racial dialectic overcorrected the post-civil-rights-movement status quo and went into a sort of paranoid frenzy in the 2010s where a mostly hyper-sensitive college-educated and academic liberal worldview about race leaked into the broader social life before people were prepared. There was suddenly talk about opposing color blindness when many people thought color blindness WAS anti-racism based on their experience growing up during the civil rights movement, there emerged a precise definition of racism that excluded the possibility of nonwhites being racist to whites (but not towards each other?), there was a tendency to treat white-passing mixed race people as essentially privileged "race traitors" (without using that phrase) to people of color, there was a tendency to ignore the historical and frankly re-emerging racism between different kinds of "white" people, there was a projection of the American petty bourgeois professional setting racial dialectic onto the whole Western hemisphere and sometimes even the whole planet, much to the confusion of immigrants and working class people. There emerged a hyper-sensitive Human-Resources ideology that is highly counter-intuitive without a social studies education but was nevertheless treated as incredibly obvious by its adherents, in much the same way that people in STEM often fail to understand that their hyper-specialization isn't obvious to the laymen. A lack of education in this form of petty bourgeois sensitivity and etiquette was treated as "fragility." It was sort of a passive-aggressive petty bourgeois cultural revolution. Working class people and the lumpenproletariat people had very little use for this. There is no Robin DiAngelo being read in the prison system. They prefer Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, Huey Newton. When the Aryan Brotherhood guy steps to you in the yard, you break his nose, you don't ask him to check his privilege. White polite liberal office workers who grew up admiring MLK and Harriet Tubman and would never utter a racial slur found themselves inundated with accusations of racism, and if these accusations made them cry, it was proof they were even bigger racists. The guy with 10000 swastikas tattooed all over his body would never be moved to tears by such an accusation. He proudly declares his intentions.

>>2762874
>to finish the job, completely containing and eradicating your reactionary counter-insurgency organization.
God you militant larpers are as embarassing as chuds lmao

>>2763027


I mean, maybe it's the horseshoe theory applied to cringe? The reality of the matter is that we have our comrades we trained in theory and organizing planted in many many organizations and have been funneling people into our own networks of theory and praxis for years, long since we were banned from CPUSA for doing it. We smartened up, started using human proxies, playing it more low-key, less hot-headed. I served four years in prison in Missouri. Was that LARP? We may or may not have had a hand in organizing the biggest prison strike in U.S. history. I am a Teamster who put differences aside and assisted DSA and Anarcho Syndicalists in the building of a radical union network inside the AFL‑CIO. Miss me with that LARP shit. I don’t break the law, but I don’t LARP either, feel me? If I did LARP, I'd pick something like old-west bandit, pirate, something like that.

I think our comrade has been confusing the ACP with the CPUSA. There are a few newcomers under the JPA who have made this mistake more than once, we recently corrected them through our private channels and gave them plenty to review.

Now, about the ACP, interacting with individuals associated with Haz specifically, we was all surprised. The ACP is way less cringe than the CPUSA in my personal experience. I don’t mean that politically or even in terms of praxis; it’s more about personality type and the level of comfort I have around certain kinds of people. The personalities seem more working‑class, blue‑collar, people who know how to handle power tools, a hammer, and a gun.

Let me also reiterate, the ACP has agreed to certain things with the JPA, and we are not currently deploying the same tactics of infiltration and diversion with them as we are with the CPUSA. I apologize that our comrade created confusion. I can’t get into detail, but the ACP does not mind what we have going against the CPUSA over the years at all. In fact, they acted and split the CPUSA at a crucial moment with us. Our comrade shouldn’t have worded things about the ACP that way, perhaps they know this, but have not fully went over the material and got back to us, which is why they shed the Juche tag for the comment. I do disagree with many of the ACP’s openly shared theories, but I can’t deny the under‑the‑table solidarity they have offered the JPA & friends.

I mean, I struggle in social settings but I don't think that's because I'm white.
I think a major problem is that discussions of race have pretty much been totally divorced from class and material analysis. Also I think people, no matter who they are, don't want to apologize for their existence. Everyone has their own struggles and problems they have to deal with, especially under capitalism.

>>2762863
That helps thanks

>>2763233
> If you think you can spot them, you’re wrong
oh please, it's obviously chagos, felix, and wrongschizo

>>2763233
maybe talking to bots is better than video games so i'mma keep doing it anyway

>>2763237
Wrong. Some dumbass labor aristocrst cracker colonizer yank said >>2761694 they would spam vile content to terrorize people because they are butthurt at "Third-Worldists." That is probably same person.

>>2763248
my bbc is organic and it is entering your wife's bussy right now

>>2763256
>wife's bussy
🤔

Let's be honest here. The reason white americans have no patience for discussions of racism is because non-whites have no patience for tales of racism against whites. Just listen to brown people talk for a while, online or off, and eventually the conversation turns to bbc for white women. This thread is an example of it.

Well, let me give you official permission to keep doing it, as a white man, I give you all a "wigger pass". You can officially use white people as the butt of every joke. You've been doing it for years, now you can do it with the white man's blessing. It wouldn't be very superior of a superior race to be unable to take a joke at its expense, would it? 😏

>>2762699
Everyone is racist
This book is just basic bitch ragebait, and you bought it.

Good question

>>2763635
>You are likely arguing with code, not comrades.

it has always been that way, long before ai. the average extremely-online human internet commentator has always been nothing more than a preprogrammed algorithm - take an arbitrary contrarian position, cherrypick search engine data for factoids to reinforce your case, move goalposts and resort to ad hominem when proven wrong, rinse, repeat. they were always mindless automatons from the very beginning - the ai is just a much more energy-inefficient version of them, but they are equally soulless and devoid of human thought.

>>2763412
it cuts off there because he got knocked out

>>2762968
dude in video is hot I would gladly be his prisonwife

>>2762746
he's a big fan of fertile 16 year olds

>>2762791
>This is an ideal, but it isn’t helpful, because it reduces to a colour blind worldview in application
tru tru
But to be fair, the opposite is being a radical socdem who rejects communism since of the racial divide, while also defending people like the church of islam that just regurgitate nazi rhetoric or self-made-illerate "Why would i read a book made by WHITE OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!" people

It's a balance

>>2762968
>i feel like the North American racial dialectic overcorrected the post-civil-rights-movement status quo and went into a sort of paranoid frenzy in the 2010s where a mostly hyper-sensitive college-educated and academic liberal worldview about race leaked into the broader social life before people were prepared … here was a projection of the American petty bourgeois professional setting racial dialectic onto the whole Western hemisphere and sometimes even the whole planet, much to the confusion of immigrants and working class people.
Sounds about right. I think a lot of what people didn't like about "wokeness" and idpol stuff was basically a minority of resentful bullies engaged in a narcissistic and competitive pity contest using the language available to them to gain some sort of status in a competitive environment while using moralism and shame as a shield. But it's now largely irrelevant so still being resentful about it is like being furious at vegetarians or Reddit atheists still hanging onto resentment for the Satanic Panic.

If black people disappeared tommorow what sector of society would suffer?

>>2765209
Considering it would kill both farming and ressource extraction in general, the global economy would be fucked

>>2765209
We see the ascendancy of people possessing African heritage in the 20th and 21st centuries, namely in entertainment and the arts; the entire canon of Western music from Jazz to Blues to Rock, Disco, Hip-Hop and so on are all pioneered by African-Americans. If The Beatles became "bigger than Jesus", this is due to original inspiration. The turn from the classical sublime to mass culture then demonstrates this popular shift of values. Without black people, is there really a cohesive popular culture in the West? Is it possible? Sports, for example, is an international pasttime - when Jesse Owens won in the Third Reich, we see Germans praise his universal excellence, extending to Hitler, yet black Americans were segregated from sports in the US, due to racial competition. Once sports became integrated, we see the rise of black sports stars; Athletics, Baseball, Soccer, Boxing, American Football, etc. In the arts and entertainment, we see stand-up comedy excel, originally from Jews like Lenny Bruce to Irishman like Carlin and Black people like Pryor. Here, comedy as a democratic device is in possession of those who are subversive of WASP culture, which dies out as the old aristocracy is dethroned.

So, Black people are in the centre of the 20th century, especially following WW2, but even prior, the origin of capitalism is really inseparable from African slavery - so it is Black people who are largely the spectre of modernity in world-history.

>>2763042


I've read everything yall have posted in our private channel. It denounces the ACP's stance, but says there is an ongoing transactional relationship, pretty much.

i am white and i am a racist and i have racist thoughts about non-white people. i don't really have any excuse for it, maybe it was my upbringing or maybe it's society's fault or maybe i'm just a dick. but whatever the reasons are, i can admit that i am a racist and it's not the end of the world because i'm a flawed human being and not some kind of demigod that must live up to some impossible standard of ethical perfection. other white people don't seem to be able to do this, and not just when it comes to racism but with everything - it's like they believe in their minds that they are perfect and infallible and incapable of ever making a mistake or being wrong about anything and they surround their fragile egos with immutable brick walls of deliberate ignorance and delusion to protect themselves and instantly go into narcissistic collapse mode whenever something triggers their guilty conscience. i think it's especially bad now in the digital age of social media where everyone is so vain and performative and compelled to present as this perfect superhero version of themselves at all times. i would sooner just be a racist than have to live like that. uyghur.

another thing is, i find it troubling how terrified white people are at being accused of being a racist and how much they whine about cancel culture and "you can't say anything these days" because i think it betrays a compulsive need to be the center of attention and be treated like some kind of celebrity. it's like youtube influencer culture has infected the brains of regular everyday people and made them think that they are celebrities and now they are super protective of their non-existent public reputations and feel like they have to walk ouyghshells all the time lest they screw up and say the wrong thing and get cancelled. like who the fuck are you? what have you ever done? you're nobody, you can't be cancelled because you were never a celebrity to begin with you fucking delusional freak.

>>2765384
Everyone's reputation matters. Are you crazy? You sound like you've never interacted with a group of humans before in your life.

>>2765404

i interact with people every day and some people like me and some people don't like me and some people are indifferent to me and i'm fine with that, i don't feel a compulsive need to be liked by everyone or be the center of attention. i think wanting to be liked by everyone is not a realistic goal and it is not healthy to think that way, i think learning and accepting the fact that you can't be everyone's friend and that you're not really that important to the world is an important milestone of emotional maturity.

Race is an empty signifier tied to a history, you cant empty (de-signify) or change (re-signify) it, you can't claim race is real or that it's fake, making it potent because its history means it can't be fully rejected despite the rejection of its biological claims. Race always takes on the system from its colonial history, what Fanon calls "reciprocal exclusivity", an oppositional and relational role. The abuser organizes to be able to abuse, the abused takes on an oppositional and relational organized position against the abuser, which then justifies the abuse for the abuser. Abandoning this oppositional identity means facing the emptiness of your identity, making abandoning this identity seem ridiculous. Race, lacking content as an empty signifier makes it more dangerous than a signifier with content, as it needs to be defended aggressively to hide its lack of content.

When we talk about subjects like white fragility or white privilege to a white person, they don't understand exactly because race is now an empty signifier that lacks content. That is until you give race back its historical content, the one that justifies reciprocal exclusivity and organizational abuse. This is often mistaken for ignorance or racism, but the white person is simply responding the way society treats race, stripped of meaning.

>>2765369
Holy trvke

>>2765467
It's not about being like ot os not being disliked out of the bounds of acceptable behavior. In workplaces they have this thing called HR which will really cancel your ass.

>>2765369
it's because race as an idea is inherently something that causes racism, the solution is not to pretend it's not real or accuse each other of doing something that is exclusive to them, it's to ask people to question these thoughts as they come up

>>2765520
I think there are two type of people who spew all that "nobody is judging you! Nobody is paying attention to you!" Normies who so instinctively follow social cues and norms and etc. the literal autists who actually don't realize people are actually paying attention to what you do and judging you and talking about you behind your back and it does have real consequences. People aren't brown-nosing just for the love it.

>>2765538
>"nobody is judging you! Nobody is paying attention to you!"

that's not what i said at all. people are probably watching you and judging you and thinking and saying all kinds of bad things about you all the time. my position is, so what? just because you are visible that means you have to turn your entire life into a neverending people-pleasing performance?

>>2765520
>In workplaces they have this thing called HR which will really cancel your ass.

oh god no anything but that, please don't fire me boss i'll be good i swear. jesus fucking christ, do you realize what a conditioned obedient doormat you sound like right now? how can you even call yourself a leftist/marxist/whatever when you're such a fucking company boy?

>>2765556
>jesus fucking christ, do you realize what a conditioned obedient doormat you sound like right now? how can you even call yourself a leftist/marxist/whatever when you're such a fucking company boy?
At least I'm employed. Lol.

>>2765557
>At least I'm employed. Lol.

you certainly are, you're so employed that even when you are not at work you still think and behave like a company boy. enslaved might be a better word for it than employed tbqh.

>>2765562
Some day you might leave mommy's basement and you'll get what I was talking about.

>>2765369
>i am white and i am a racist and i have racist thoughts about non-white people. i don't really have any excuse for it
I think you can acknowledge it and then make allowances that you have those biases so it doesn't screw up your thinking, rather than pretending that you're a perfect snowflake like the kind of people you're talking about yeah. If it's not racism it might be something else like transphobia or just plain nationalism and you just have a grudge against a certain nation even if you deny you have those feelings. You might hate and fear Russia, are jealous and envious of America, or despise Jews or Hindus, or are afraid of the Islamic horde.

>>2765467
>i think wanting to be liked by everyone is not a realistic goal and it is not healthy to think that way, i think learning and accepting the fact that you can't be everyone's friend and that you're not really that important to the world is an important milestone of emotional maturity.
I agree with that. I was saying it already, but I think a lot of problems in groups happen because of interpersonal conflict, ego, competitive status seeking and other pathological weird stuff that goes on between people, and then other things revolve around that. Like people pulling the privilege card. I've seen people in left-wing groups do this a few times, and also just in social groups. I didn't think it was ever that common, but it was more often the case that I was thinking, this person is playing some kind of social game.

The biggest I've ever seen someone blow up and try to cancel people for transphobia (which wasn't at all justified) in a left-wing group was a person who identified as queer in a highly political way, but didn't seem to be in any process of transition at all. Pretty much every actual trans person I've met has been really chill. But this person wasn't chill at all, and also didn't appear to be trans, and also wore hammer and sickle earrings. It was very strange. But the person who really got it in the neck was trying to be like "that's not what I meant at all" and that only made it worse.

It's weird to talk about it too because when I've encountered this stuff, it's so hyper-specific and involves some group of friends and the weird social dynamics within that group, so it's going to bore people.

>>2765566

i'm an independent contractor and i live on my own and i don't have a boss or an hr department to answer to. you're the one who spends most of your life cooped up in a building being told what to do by an authority figure, only in your case the basement is an office and the mommy is your boss.