/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2764312
because they are free minded and can't be used as a tool for le revolution

>>2764312
there's arguments that mafia would be more considered "lumpenbourgeoisie"
But the real answer is these groups don't organize because they have no real economic or political power, especially homeless beggars.

>>2764314

There is class hereirchy in the mob too though. you have the working class members earning and the rich elites on top. and marx and engels werent using dialetical materialism to criticize lumpens they were mostly just doing moral liberal panic over the "anti-social" behaviors of the lowest workers because marx was poor but still a petite bourgeois academic would be no different than some gentry marxist moving in a seattle condo then saying the way the workers behave is too crude

>>2765610
Booklet. M&E recorded several (anti-monarchist) revolutions where lumpen were bought to fight for the status quo.