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Thoughts on professor jiang? IVE heard that he is a conservative socialist, he’s the next Jordan Peterson, hes a communist, anti-American and met with sneako. Thoughts?

Complete and utter retard

second the opinion that he's a retard. the fact that he has all this popularity lately stinks of fed involvement.

he is a nazi

>>2775446
Yeah IVE heard that he believes in a bunch of weird conspiracy’s which are a bit out there though I do like his takes on the USA and his pro-China sentiment though he is involved with western liberals and fascists like sneako [insert socdem] etc..

>>2775465
I doubt the ceasefire will last I’m pretty sure Israel is already breaking it’s going to be similar to when trump “ended” the gaza war(or as I like to call it the 3rd intifada) last year for like 3 days

He is a high school teacher from Canada who gets called a professor for some reason. He is also a chinese dissident who made a PBS funded documentary about the anti-government movements in China in the early 2000s, for which he was not allowed back into China for a few years, but eventually patched things up somehow. His entire take on Communism is that Marxism-Leninism AKA Scientific Socialism was a movement funded by the bourgeoisie to ruin Utopian Socialism in the 1800s. He is a reformist and social democrat. He thinks the problems with Capitalism can be fixed through legal reforms. He also denies evolution, supports religion, and denies the atrocities committed by the nazis in WW2, collectively called "the holocaust", but also including their war crimes against non-Jewish groups like Slavs, Gypsies, etc.

He occasionally says correct things and people latch onto these correct things and use them to justify the whackier stuff. These correct things include identifying the US's recent war crimes

>>2775469
He said that he isn't a professor. It's just a title that people gave him in China as a sign of respect, like elders in some countries are called 'teacher' even if they arent accredited.

but honestly, it's kind of misleading

>>2775469
Okay this makes sence now though on google it says he supports the seeseepee? He might be one of the Chinese Han reactionary’s who support Marxism but are more reactionary bascically the eastern equivalent to your average reactionary

He glows from outer space. He's a graduate from Yale University which holds a deeper and more influential historical connection to the CIA than perhaps any other academic institution in the United States.

That plus the quibbles he's had with the Chinese government are enough of a red flag to completely disregard anything he says, even if accidentally accurate in rare occasions.

His sudden popularity out of nowhere is a dead giveaway. He's a disinfo agent meant to muddy political discourse.

>>2775471
>on google it says he supports the seeseepee
in some situations maybe, but he explicitly says in his lecture on communism on youtube that he thinks Marx was a bourgeois funded psy op against the existing socialist movement. his reasoning behind this is very weak imo.

>>2775475
He might be a fed maybe to cause Normies to not go to normal leftism but instead this weird socially conservative utopian socialist anti-communist(though on mixed friendship with the Chinese government) possibly antisemitic fed version though it seems like he would be a liability and cause Normies to outgrow him and become normal MLs
>>2775476
He’s currently on mixed relations with the government though I would still describe him as anti-ml utopian socialist reactionary Chinese “socialist”(not to be confused with the based socialism with Chinese characteristics)

>>2775470
like how the apostles called Jesus "Rabbi" even though he wasn't a Levite

Halfwit who should get his ass beat on a live stream

>>2775475
what's the origin of "glowing" meaning that there's a connection to intelligence agencies? I'd like to know the lore

>>2775487
>what's the origin of "glowing" meaning that there's a connection to intelligence agencies? I'd like to know the lore
A schizophrenic homeless computer programmer named Terry Davis once went on a rant in live stream that he ran over CIA n words with his car, clarifying that you can see them at night, because they glow in the dark.

>>2775480
>>2775475
Also just because he’s from Yale doesn’t mean anything as the us government mainly funds conservative think tanks like the heritage foundation though hey still do fund universities it’s just that their main way of controlling academics is through thinktanjs that’s why 1%-5% or less of academics are Marxist doesn’t mean they are entirely fedded just because they are in a popular university

hes an antisemite

>Y-Y-Y-Y-YOURE DEFENDING ISRAE-…

i mean the classic kind. from before israel even existed. yeah, that kind of antisemite

>>2775469
>He is a high school teacher from Canada who gets called a professor for some reason.
Reading what's available, he was born in Guangdong and immigrated to Canada when he was six and grew up in Toronto. He actually couldn't speak Chinese very well. He got involved in an overseas studies program for Chinese students and then transferred to Beijing to serve as the principal of a middle school in Shenzhen. He went to Yale to study mathematics but switched to English literature. Apparently his teachings methods were pretty avant-garde by Chinese standards (discussion-based learning, students running their own coffee shop and newspaper, and publishing an English-language magazine). He also apparently won a lot of money in Las Vegas one point by relying on his math skills. "Students who once studied at Shenzhen Middle School recalled that Jiang Xueqin was a young teacher with a great sense of presence, high-spirited and good at telling stories."
https://news.ifeng.com/c/8rizYD4sgs7

>>2775470
>He said that he isn't a professor. It's just a title that people gave him in China as a sign of respect, like elders in some countries are called 'teacher' even if they arent accredited. but honestly, it's kind of misleading
Yeah that's common in China. It'd be like "teacher Jiang."

>>2775445
>Thoughts?
I think my first thought is there are a lot of Chinese guys like this. Like if you go to Chinese websites that publish articles about world affairs, there's just a lot of interest in geopolitical and "civilizational" issues and "geopolitical narrative constructions," and I think there are a lot of guys like this with video channels (but I don't watch those because I don't speak Chinese and it's easier to auto-translate text) and they weave a lot of different threads together into a high-context narrative, and there is a different (I guess "Chinese" or "Asian") way of thinking about the world. But most of them either don't speak English or wouldn't be able to gather a large audience in North America because their English wouldn't be good enough to keep the audience to want to continuing to listen to them. It's not just the English language but how to flow with the ryhthm of the language. You only get that by actually living in a society for decades or growing up in it as he did. So a Westerner who has never heard a guy like this is surprised and is like "wow, this guy's a genius."

From what I've read his theories basically come from game theory. He had used that to make some accurate predictions. He also has English training which makes him an effective communicator. But he has also made predictions that just turned out not to be true. I don't think he glows. There are other people who are like, he's a CCP agent trying to destroy Western civilization!!! But he apparently said if you gave him a billion dollars he'd invest it in Japan rather than China because Japan is better, which would be a weird thing for a CCP guy to say. I think some of this is due to the novelty factor of people not hearing one of these Chinese "teacher" figures before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-context_and_low-context_cultures

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But yeah there's actually very little about him in Chinese. He wasn't some pre-existing famous Chinese guru, but he recently got some attention because he blew up in North America, so there are some articles in China trying to explain why this guy became popular all of a sudden. It seems to be about as surprising to Chinese as it is here, but the novelty factor isn't there.

>>2775445
His ideology is pretty popular China as he’s a Chinese right wing reactionary nationalist Marxist because of how China works everybody’s a Marxist even the far right are marxists so his ideology is like what 10-15% of the population thinks. It’s western version would just b National Conservativism.

>>2775561
your wall of text is leaving out the part where he says marx was a psy op against utopian socialism

>>2775576
He’s a “socialist” chinese reactionary nationalist common in China

>>2775554
>i mean the classic kind. from before israel even existed. yeah, that kind of antisemite

this site's hopeless now. it doesn't matter if you make this clarification. i was arguing with some America First Nazi in the iran thread that america was imperialist before israel existed and will be imperialist after israel is gone. he then suggested that america has been puppeted by rothschilds since the 1700s so therefore it's always been ZOG. they will just make shit up as it goes along.

>>2775578
they exist all over the world. it's a political tendency that gave us fascism but even before then engels wrote about "reactionary socialism" and "bourgeois socialism" in his 1847 Principles of Communism

>>2775579
this is why people like Professor Jin are being promoted to turn everyone schizophrenic. It makes it impossible to have a discussion.

>>2775581
Yeah this makes sence this type of ideology isn’t popular west though the most you have is “maga communism/patriotic socialism”

>>2775588
> the most you have is “maga communism/patriotic socialism”
falls under the same umbrella imo

>>2775584
> this is why people like Professor Jin are being promoted to turn everyone schizophrenic. It makes it impossible to have a discussion.
I visited my MAGA father in law recently. He's an old petty bourgeois guy, but also a manual laborer. He co-owned a mechanic business with his brothers. He was the work horse. He and I agreed on a lot of basic problems with class society but of course he's super reactionary on the "cultural" issues and very idealist and religious. He has also started to believe in absolutely bonkers stuff like numerology and has become obsessed with the number twelve. He no longer likes Trump as much as he used to, since he invaded Iran, which is nice to hear, but it's sad things had to go this far.

>>2775591
That’s true but magacommunism is way less popular than as I like to call “Chinese reactionary socialism”

He’s like the politics of /Siberia/ manifested into a person

>>2775596
Honestly the left should focus on agrarian and industrial workers more as the average person doesn’t care about “cultural” issues(really just idpol) like there should advancements in queer and gay rights but it shouldn’t be the main focus your father in law(if he wasn’t a schizo “spiritual” guy) would be the perfect guy to be radicalized into communism rather than some “third positionist” economic model like fascism

Professor jiang I feel liking is leading people from the normie to tankte pipe-line to go from normie-socdem-demsoc or something-reactionary socialism-your average “grouper Chud”. Since Jiang has met with sneako and met with the current far right are “white” nationalist chuds and normal leftists like a naz bol type of fed(possibly a fed)

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>>2775445
He's a good retard, we need more stuff like him, I think he hated jews, that aligns with Marx and me.

>>2775469
Professor jiang didnt deny the holocaust.
>He occasionally says correct things and people latch onto these correct things and use them to justify the whackier stuff. These correct things include identifying the US's recent war crimes
Which is why western leftists unite to scrutinize this innocent man with almost entirely bogus allegations. Most of which have been refuted here >>2774481 >>2774007 >>2773035

>>2775623
Professor jiang is not socialist. Professor jiang is very simple. He is revolutionary anti-imperialist bourgeois which is why you've all ceded that he is "socialist." Professor jiang provides innovation to revolutionary bourgeois thinking, but the actual socdem breadtubers call him canadian and antisemetic.

He became popular because he predicted the iran war and the outcome of the iran way (nominally US losing) a few years in advance, and normies who don't know their reps are literally all warmonger freaks with a thirst for iranian blood went pikachu face, if anything Jiang went viral because there's a real lack of serious analysts on the left in the US.

>>2775445
Literal Chinese Canadian dispora middle school teacher with connections to the cia. Glowed up eceleb.

>>2775469
He currently lives in China

>>2775469
>Marxism-Leninism AKA Scientific Socialism
Holy bait

>>2775654
He forgot to add bourgeois to socialism

>>2775654
>>2775657
Keep seething ultra
>>2775642
Reactionary socialism isn’t socialism and I wasnt saying that it was when somebody says national socialism does that mean they think it is?

>>2775576
Someone already posted that.

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>>2775704
You are a revisionist

>>2775843
No I’m not leftcommunism are the revisionist liberals that will say EVERY socialist revolution is “state capitalist” at least anarchists had something and trotskyists will act like Lenin support them but leftcommunist have nothing

>>2775654
you fucking ruin every thread dude. you just antagonize anyone and everyone but you never have a real fucking point. you just smugly waltz in and call people stupid. you provide no education. you're a smelly asshole that shits one everything

>>2775654
way to cherrypick one fucking tiny thing from that post, not say why its wrong, and ignore the rest of it. i hate you so fucking much it's unbelievable


>>2775642
>Professor jiang didnt deny the holocaust.
yes he did
>western leftists unite to scrutinize this innocent man
shill harder
>Professor jiang is not socialist.
yeah, he's a reformist, i said that already.
>. He is revolutionary anti-imperialist bourgeois
now this is baitposting, whacky that the leftcom ignored this and went after me instead


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