We've all seen the rhetoric. Decentralized madness occurring. Calls to "seize the moment," to escalate tactics, to join with unknown provocateurs who promise militancy. But let's be clear, revolution is not sabotage, not a spontaneous outburst. History teaches us that adventurism, detached from mass conditions, serves only the state. It isolates the vanguard, burns our networks energies, and gives the bourgeoisie the pretext for crackdowns.
If things heat up with all these acts of sabotage and violence occurring in the last week, do not be swept away by emotion. Do not join with those who talk of violence but have no deep roots in the working class. Do not get pushed into death and jail by Maoists and Anarchists. Stay disciplined. Stay organized. The real work is patient, collective, and legal. Anything else is a trap. Resist the urge to be heroic. The revolution will not be won by fire, terror and bullets. It will be won by the slow, unglamorous building of dual power.
Don't let the adventurists lead you into ruin. Keep your head down. Trust the party. Trust the process. Thank you!
Anything that harms western workers is an objective good at this point, you are what your society does
>>2782268Go back to /pol/ retard
>>2782270Keep serving your Zionist masters and hope for lenin to grow out of that LMAO
>>2782271Third-worldist adventurism won't bring your father back to life buddy.
>>2782274You will be dismantled physically alongside every Israeli, you are the world’s Israel, you and all your cowokers are terrorists and racists and will be boiled
The workers are going to revolt whether you are ready or not.
The workers are going to revolt whether they are class conscious or not.
People taking action spontaneously is a good sign of where we're at though, and the opportunity is ripe to organize people in ways they wouldn't have been willing to organize before.
>>2782276Israeli proletariat will crush down on your reactionary shitholes.
>>2782279The Israeli “proletariat” will be driven into the sea along with every Euroid, NATOid, and Japanese
>>2782278Workers don’t exist
<TRUST THE PLAN
Adventurism is objectively good sorry
Sure, I agree on adventurism. But there won't be a revolution.
China will slowly push NATO past the tipping point where the bourgeoisie would find more profitable to stop fighting for hegemony. Then balkanization and looting. When the Chinese appointed Yeltsins and Kuchmas do Keynesianism to rebuild, it will feel like so much paradise. In comparison to the neolib militarism that USA preached before and the ancapistani republics it birthed.
Enjoy the future as a lesser partner to imperialism with Chinese characteristics.
>>2782268People are sick of the wester world. You are dying, let it go.
>>2782297Yes anon, we should murder one milionaire per decade so politicans can have reason for pacification any worker's movements.
>>2782283>>2782297>>2782299<adventurism good!“Each time a hero engages in single combat, this arouses in us all a spirit of struggle and courage,” we are told. But we know from the past and see in the present that only new forms of the mass movement or the awakening of new sections of the masses to independent struggle really rouses a spirit of struggle and courage in all. Single combat however, inasmuch as it remains single combat waged by the Balmashovs, has the immediate effect of simply creating a short-lived sensation, while indirectly it even leads to apathy and passive waiting for the next bout. We are further assured that “every flash of terrorism lights up the mind,” which, unfortunately, we have not noticed to be the case with the terrorism-preaching party of the Socialist-Revolutionaries. We are presented with the theory of big work and petty work. “Let not those who have greater strength, greater opportunities and resolution rest content with petty [!] work; let them find and devote themselves to a big cause—the propaganda of terrorism among the masses [!l, the preparation of the intricate… [the theory of elusiveness is already forgotten!]… terrorist ventures." How amazingly clever this is in all truth: to sacrifice the Life of a revolutionary for the sake of wreaking vengeance on the scoundrel Sipyagin, who is then replaced by the scoundrel Plehve—that is big work. But to prepare, for instance, the masses for an armed demonstration—that is petty work. This very point is explained in No. 8 of Revolutsionnaya Rossiya, which declares that “it is easy to write and speak” of armed demonstrations “as a matter of the vague and distant future,” “but up till now all this talk has been merely of a theoretical nature.” How well we know this Language of people who are free of the constraint of firm socialist convictions, of the burdensome experience of each and every kind of popular movement! They confuse immediately tangible and sensational results with practicalness. To them the demand to adhere steadfastly to the class standpoint and to maintain the mass nature of the movement is “vague” “theorising.” In their eyes definitiveness is slavish compliance with every turn of sentiment and … and, by reason of this compliance, inevitable helplessness at each turn. Demonstrations begin— and blood thirsty words, talk about the beginning of the end, flow from the lips of such people. The demonstrations halt— their hands drop helplessly, and before they have had time to wear out a pair of boots they are already shouting: “The people, alas, are still a long way off….” Some new outrage is perpetrated by the tsar’s henchmen—and they demand to be shown a “definite” measure that would serve as an exhaustive reply to that particular outrage, a measure that would bring about an immediate “transference of strength,” and they proudly promise this transference! These people do not understand that this very promise to “transfer” strength constitutes political adventurism, and that their adventurism stems from their lack of principle.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/sep/01.htm >>2782304And what have any if your bullshit organizations been able to do in the west? Jack fucking squat that’s what
Obey the state. Obey the police. Stay at work. Communism by 2050, trust the plan
>>2782306>>2782307Why don't you do "petty" preparatory work among the masses? Is that below your "heroic" stance? Are you above actual nitty-gritty decade long work? You are free to go wherever, remember, but please don't drag us with you to the swamp.
>>2782309Fuck the zionist masses, may they and this whole society burn
>>2782278Workers (in my country and most of the world at the moment) are not going to revolt anytime soon because most of them can still afford basic needs. No society-wide militant revolt ever occurred without this condition.
And hypothetically if they were to, they would be crushed instantly by the infinitely more organized and pervasive glowies not to mention the large fraction of the working class whose primary concerns are not labor related.
As OP said this is a time to build class consciousness, networks and soft power. If you absolutely must make your move before these prerequisites are established then at least do it far away from the labor movement
>>2782315
Euroids and settlers will not get socialism
>>2782375its the petit bourg neet who banged his ankle and cant move so he shits the place up
>>2782322Of course this is a serious warning and I feel it's necessary. Because the month prior to this, it became obvious we were being infiltrated by an organized group pushing this adventurism and "people's war" nonsense juche posters being the worst offenders here.
We are in a delicate moment. The contradictions are sharp, yes yes. But the path forward is not isolated violence, nor is it decentralized organized violence. It is democratic centralist organization, discipline, and mass action. Stay away from these adventurist actions. Do not support them, do not spread knowledge of their deeds with excitement, this is how they spread their decentralized chaos. It's sad to see how voices like jucheposters and Maoanon seem to have won the marketplace of ideas within the left. Left‑wing news outlets that decried adventurism years ago are now celebrating this nonsense, and I fear we've lost control. The decentralized nature of these types of leftists has made it not just hard for the state to predict, but hard for us to counter as real Marxists. Do not engage with anyone encouraging you to "hit back now." These are wreckers, not revolutionaries.
Like I said trust the party. Trust the process. Keep your head down, build dual power, and let the adventurists burn themselves out. They are not our vanguard. They are not our comrades. They are a liability to our safety and our future.
You all realize Juche Poster is likely a foreign actor, right? A month ago they posted in Korean "Soon the revisionists will have no choice but to step aside, as the red sun rises and shines upon all of America, a heat wave begins." Then they disappear. Stop posting. Not a coincidence this pops up a month later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscqAkSyDH0If you want to be pushed into madness by foreign actors whose only goal is to destabilize the US economy and society, then go ahead enjoy your own self‑destruction, but don't pretend you are bettering the lives of Americans.
I thought OP was clearly being sarcastic and doing a bit but people are taking him seriously? And now he's doubling down? The fuck.
It feels like there was a hasbara takeover of the site and now leftypol is just a den of mental illness detached from objective reality.
>>2782674Yeah, it's not some act to say we don't want weirdos dragging us into an endless struggle or war just because they think "people's war" is a cooler aesthetic than the necessary, slow, boring process of building the party and solidifying theory.
>>2782297I wonder if burning down a warehouse full of toilet paper contributes to carbon dioxide levels at all
>>2782173Reminder that these fuckers all have fire insurance and a lot of these instances of "adventurism" are just them doing insurance fraud like Lucky Larry.
>>2782674Sir this is an anonymous imageboard, of course it's gonna be full of schizos and idiots
>>2782684>>Reminder that these fuckers all have fire insuranceThat's true, but that's not how it actually works. Environmentalists have cost companies billions through actions like these, and the insurance payouts never outweighed the damage to business operations or project timelines. So in the end, it actually hurts workers. Insurance schemes aren't as simple as "I lose property, I get money." My father used to investigate insurance claims, and fraud rarely happened like that. Small family owned restaurants were actually the most common type of business to commit insurance fraud via fire. I don't think any of these warehouse attacks are insurance schemes, because it's a wave of adventurism that involves much more than that.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czx91rdxpyeo
>>Police in San Francisco have arrested a 20-year-old man after a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the home of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, setting a perimeter gate alight.https://sfstandard.com/2026/04/12/sam-altman-s-home-targeted-second-attack/
>>According to an initial police report, Sunday at 1:40 a.m., a Honda sedan with two people inside stopped in front of Altman’s property, which stretches from Chestnut Street to Lombard Street, after passing it a few minutes before.
>>The person in the passenger seat put their hand out the window and appeared to fire a round on the Lombard side of the property, according to the police report, which cited surveillance footage and the compound’s security personnel, who reported hearing a gunshot. >>2782674It’s been schizo hasbara since 2022
Adventurism as an act is useless. Adventurism as a trend becomes resources for the foundation of class consciousness.
>>2782706Bloodshed and chaos only lead to more bloodshed and chaos.
>>2782714A liberal myth perpetrated by ignorance. All revolutions are built on blood.
>>2782717>>2782717>All revolutions are built on blood.>Adventurism as a trend becomes resources for the foundation of class consciousness.These are vacuous phrases. No substance behind them.
>>2782722>These are vacuous phrasesOh, I guess you’ll find in the history books that the liberals achieved their revolutions through peace, harmony, puppies and rainbows then. Certainly no head being cut off or conflicts being waged. That would be ridiculous.
An actual revolution involving millions of armed workers led by communists is also "adventurism" but it require immense effort and long term planning. But it is just as much of an "adventure", if not more, than some rando shooting or firebombing.
But of course the terminally dopamine addicted adventurists don't see this, they only want to do the short term adventure that achieves nothing, while putting no effort into the long term adventure that actually achieves something.
>>2782734Honestly, I don't even think these are anarchists or Maoists anymore I was being a bit of a conspiracy theorist because of shit-posters trolling me here. Even they shy away from this kind of thing. This looks more like people who are just throwing their lives away. When anarchists do these kinds of actions, they usually try to get away with it. But these people are filming their own actions from personal phones, pulling up in their normal cars, and blatantly attacking CEOs' homes. It's not even propaganda by the deed strategy. It's mental illness.
>>2782701> the insurance payouts never outweighed the damage to business operations or project timelines. the bourgeoisie destroy productive forces during crises of overproduction because continuing business operations is no longer profitable
>>2782734>An actual revolution involving millions of armed workers led by communists is also "adventurism" but it require immense effort and long term planning. But it is just as much of an "adventure", if not more, than some rando shooting or firebombing. Here for example, we can see how this leftcom does not understand that quantity has a quality of its own. Leftcoms essentially always do this - deny dialectics.
>>2782748How am I denying that? Small scale attacks = useless. Large scale attack = useful. Therefore as quantity increases, it's quality changes.
>>2782759>But it is just as much of an "adventure", if not more, than some rando shooting or firebombing. Exactly here.
>>2782173>no tension pls :(>Trust me guise be passive and docile, don't do anything illegal, beware of the eagle, denounce anybody that does harm to Porky as an adventurist, and remember: VOOT BLOO NO MATTER WHO! >COMRADE NEWSOME/BUTTIGIEG FTW 2028 BABY!>>2782670>You all realize Juche Poster is likely a foreign actor, right?You're not in USApol anymore, Dorothy. This is an International shitposting forum
True and Authentic Glowing Juche cadre > Cuckdem Party of Burgerstan
To critique reckless adventurism is wise, to denounce it is to give the putrid orifice of bourgeois peace a rimjob. Admirers of Luigi and Chamel must be encouraged to organize themselves coherently as a Class antagonistic to Capital, with all the fire and fury that this entails. Fake "Communists" like you who think vooting for progressive neoliberals and supporting the AFL-CIA is praxis lack the high ground to chide from.
>>2782759I agree with the cyclophobe for once.
There are chokepoints in US weapons manufacture–organizing the workers there to stop production of otherwise rending them unable to manufacture would be a meaningful blow to Empire. It may require some well-meaning schizos to take a gamble, but the benefits would be immeasurable.
>>2782778So you think it's cool that a month ago they posted, "In about a month, a red sun rises and causes a heatwave across America"? I hope you useful idiots realize you're being spun into reckless destructive action by foreign actors who are essentially engaged in brainwashing pushing people toward anti-capitalist martyrdom heroics so they can accelerate conditions for what they call "insurrection" or "people's war." This is going to destroy and undo the work the party has been building for years.
You know how Mossad activates all those intense militant anti‑ayatollah demonstrations in Tehran? This is exactly what foreign actors are doing with these ultra‑left nutjobs and their proxies. Which would explain why Juche Poster literally doxxed GWOT people, predicted multiple timelines of escalation, and is clearly a member of a foreign intelligence group with access to doxxing people here and in person. They were posting intelligence level methods of getting radio encryption, hidden cameras, all types of things that scream "foreign asset".
You think this is cool? Are we trying to support American workers, or are we trying to destroy America?
>>2782778"You'd be surprised how easy it is to push a desperate worker into action without even saying the words, no explicit orders, nothing for RICO to grab. This trick isn't owned by the feds. An army of addicts, burnouts, and low‑wage workers who don't care about getting caught could, with one move, rip holes in the fabric of American social peace that can't be stitched back." - Juche Poster
That's your guys? You support this?
>>2782832>muh foreign actorsI'm not a Burger you retard and I give zero shits about your failing bourgeois State. As a real communist I fight for the abolition of the working class and the total destruction of all nation-states.
TLDR: Get bent, class collaborationist Cuckdem. You are the class enemy. Jucheposter is based and only needs to ditch the cringe ideology
>>2782840>As a real communist I fight for the total destruction of all nation-states. Even Palestine?
>>2782840You think someone who said "the working class needs to declare a total jihad on the bourgeoise and their collaborators" is based? Let me guess filthy European or South American / Mexican? the left in these places seem to think aggression means based.
>>2782847>You think someone who said "the working class needs to declare a total jihad on the bourgeoise and their collaborators" is based? Absolutely
>Let me guess filthy European or South American / Mexican?>t. WASP CraKKKer Class Collaborationist Asslicker of Porky >>2782882>>2782888>but muh America :(pathetic
>You'll all regret this when you cant even go outside and grab things from the storeAre you afraid, Yanqui? Good.
>>2782890Afraid? Dude, it's not even May yet. If these idiots create another George Floyd moment, after Luigi and everything we're already in the middle of there's no ever coming back to normal. EVER AGAIN. And the thought of that gives me a sinking feeling of guilt in my stomach. I don't know why the server keeps discarding my posts either. You notice that the Juche posters are either hackers or intelligence agents too they doxxed a member of our party here after he posted about a run‑in with shady militants in LA that led to a police report. He received a text with North Korean flags, a Coffin emoji, and the word "rats belong in sewage". I suggested my comrade report that too. This is not going to end well. We're like three things away, if that, from a point of no return, and that is scary as fuck. Yes.
ai detector says OP text was generated by ai btw, stop replying to a literal LLM lol
>>2782892That must be bogus because I've typed everything word for word.
>>2782893I'm getting mixed results tbh
>>2782901You think terrorism and critical infrastructure being attacked is funny? Get a grip, holy fuck you ultra-leftards are absolutely cracked. These people are opening up a can that cannot be closed.
>>2782911>critical infrastructure>toilet paper warehouse😂 I rinse my ass with class collaborationist tears
>>2782836did he really say that? holy based
This is absurd. Each and every single criticism of adventurism made by bolshevism is valid because, as history proved, an organized socialist vanguard is the only way to actually seize and maintain power in the long term. But all that criticism PRESUPPOSED the existence of adventurism. The vanguard party is a superior strategy to adventurism but it cannot succeed if there's no adventurism taking place in the periphery of class struggle; a level of "noise" was always present in pre-revolutionary periods. Revolution can only take place when people's life prospects are so dire that they are willing to put everything at risk and commit acts of violence; in such a context, many will prefer their violence to be strategic, directed, organized. You don't make revolutionaires out of passive workers who obey the law, no matter how unionized and well versed in theory they are; you only make revolutionaires out of people that are willing to throw molotov cocktails out of sheer desperation. We haven't had many of those in recent years so their advent is materially progressive and denying this is ignoring the history of succesful revolutions. The background of both Marx's and the bolshevik's writing was a social strata of desperate pauperized people willing to kill and die to improve their and their familie's lifes, even it they weren't organized or if they weren't socialists (many were anarchists). To acritically apply merely the conclusion of their arguments to a society 200 years older, ignoring the social material conditions of said arguments, is unscientific and contrary to historical materialism.
>>2782268t.wealthy and privileged suburbanite
OP and jucheanon are the same person btw
>>2783102lol you really do this all the time though. like every other thread i see you in you're just going "same person btw" over and over. okay? and? got any proof or you just gonna keep doing that thing where you say nothing and act like you know something? kinda tired of it honestly. like actually contribute something for once instead of just stirring up nothing. Never has anything to do with the conversations and is just you trying to "dunk" on people with low effort. should result in a ban
>>2783066this is a very good post, socdempol will ignore it
>>2783433Some things might be good but anyone who still believes that the bolsheviks were not counter revolutionary is illiterate
>>2783516it presents good arguments against the usual MLibs that crash out about muh adventurism everytime workers fight back but you had to make it about litigating shit from 100 years ago because of sectarian autism… sad
>>2782911CPUSA not beating the charges for being controlled opposition. Pacify the masses…always tell them that the time is not now.
What he did was based and should happen again. Leftypol should donate to his defense fund.
>>2782684Retards like you keep saying that it doesn't matter because of insurance as though an insurance company that fights every customer over $500 car bills is just going to blithely pay out on a $500 million warehouse, or that if they do a $500 million dollar reimbursement is something that any company can just shrug off.
You are actually so fucking stupid.
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