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Bookchin, the man who destroyed marxism and anarchism.
Embrace the final form of revolution: Communalism.

>Marxism: dogmatic and outdated

>Anarchism: lifestylist and radical personal autonomy

wow, a read bookchin thread in the big 26

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he is obese, ugly and an idealist so no

>>2783979
I don't think stalin was that fat

>>2783984
im speaking about bookchin

Read Bookchin? In this economy? So epic.

>>2783986
I don't get how you can confuse pictures of stalin for bookchin

>>2783987
Dengism has already risen though, 1.41 billion people are not waiting for the approval of western leftists

is it 2014?

>>2783989
bookchin: obese, ugly an idealist
stalin: good-shape, handsome, attractive, hot, masculine

Didn't the model communalist state (Rojava) fail though

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>>2783977
Bookchin basically tried to imagine how to actually create the society Kropotkin described in The Conquest of Bread. Communalism is just anarchism in practice in modern times, although Bookchin rejected this notion towards the end

>>2784022
You really don't know why he called it communalism

>>2783997
forgot idealist at the end

>>2784055
I do know. His split with anarchism.


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>>2784059
>commodity production is not capitalism
No more brother wars?

>>2784056
i left it on purpose

Bookchin was a Zionist btw.

I hate the community, talking to people is draining, this is why I will never organize or join a comune or co op, capitalism suits me better as an individualist, just make money and go home.

>i have defeated the prior tendencies finally found the true doctrine of revolution
>fails to organise social momentum
>soon everyone's talking about marx again

i am sure internet subcultures remain the true negation of marxist "dogmas"

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>>2783972
Yes anon, we should embrace another failed sect which promote liberal values instead of real means for organising a proletariat.

Not to mention this dude was zionist and had sympathies towards libRETARDianism.

>>2784432
libertarianism isn't that bad, the problem is libertarians.
this is not the position i would've taken in 2017, but we're definitely in a direction of state-lead warmongering much worse than the worst that could be dreamed up by a global free market.

the problem with libertarians is that they mostly have personality flaws that've lead them to be Tax-cutting Trump type contrarians rather than committed believers in the rights of the individual. hence you see a shift towards "anarcho" capitalists who want the unspoken-state to throw taxmen out of helicopters, rather than libertarians who can say: go live on a commune if you want, but leave me out.

it and neoliberalism share a fundamental failure mode: they become very caught up on tax cuts and the immorality of taxation and forget all about regulation, even though overregulation, protection for businesses that should go under, etc, are in fact the most harmful interventions of the state. (tax is just a blip - it moves a cost curve a little bit, that's all. the market can handle that, but it can't handle if you just say "you can't open a coke bottling plant in this county because the government says only one guy's allowed to have one!") since it's obvious who loses from taxes (and not who gains), and since it's obvious who loses from deregulation (and not who gains - the answer is generally "more people than lose"), there's very little incentive to focus regulation and leave taxes alone, and lots and lots of incentive to rail against taxes at full volume with only quiet hypotheticals about regulation.

>>2783972
Libertarian municipalism feels like reinventing the wheel.
Like if you grew up in the 20th century reading Stalinite and Trot falsifications I can understand wanting to invent your own ideology, but you arrive at a similar conclusion if you just read Marx and fill in the blanks with council communist theory.

>>2784449
All this to just leave unconscious proletariat without any meaningful form of organisation because "muh authoritarianism!".

I get your dissatisfaction with Trotskyism and Stalinism but I still believe that Lenin was correct and any other forms of interpretation of Marxism just fail at resolving problems proletariat might face at glance of revolution.

Also Marx and Engels basically did critique fetishization of decentralisation and democracy.


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