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I feel like…
discussions about race, gender, sexuality and its relation to structures (or "post-structures") have reached a limit and class is not a concept good enough to replace it.

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>>2785711
I think everyone here critiques workerism, you didn't invent something new anon.

reddit is that way ->

>>2785752
What is this about?

>>2785759
I am only expressing a thought.
As a leftist libertarian I try to mix some socialist concepts with libertarian ones.

>>2785762
I don't like reddit.

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>>2785772
>As a leftist libertarian I try to mix some socialist concepts with libertarian ones.

>>2785772
>As a leftist libertarian I try to mix some socialist concepts with libertarian ones.
You're just a booklet hipster, let's be honest here.

>>2785772
>I don't like reddit.
by denying you like reddit it proves you like reddit. we gigachad imageboard aryan elites only like contrarians with antisocial personality disorder who speek purely in bigoted slurs and kafka traps you stupid faggot.

I for one like Reddit.

>>2785782
What would be an "original position", in your view?
I am not saying I am a socialist or a libertarian, but I like some ideas of them both, but I am not sure where do I place myself in a spectrum, I just know I tend to be left and think aboit social issues a lot.
Again, it is only me expressing a thought.
If it is unoriginal, show me what's wrong.

>>2785784
No, I am not a hipster I am just a gay dude.

>>2785791
>>2785813
Reddit is for losers, we all know here is the real deal.

>>2785759
Workerism is right tho.

>>2785711
while you sit here babbling about how class doesn't matter, rich people are out there raping kids

>>2785818
I am not a productive person and I don't like to work (even tho I am a worker).
The idea of worshipping the workkng class never resonates with me. I understand the social value of work is somewhat important to most people, but I prefer focusing in other stuff.

>>2785820
The working class is better in every way to the ruling class, and we should represent class warfare as an apocalyptic struggle between good and evil with a quasi-religion surrounding it.
Because this is the truth, if they win, we're all dead, since the industrial revolution thay have dreamed of the day they replaced us, they destroy us, they dream of seeing us suffer, and every year that goes by, they see the opportunity get closer and closer, and once they're able too, they'll do it.
The Working class must realise it's superiority if it desires to survive. It's the apocalypse.

>>2785819
I didn't say class doesn't matter.
I also didn't say all the other stuff don't matter.
I am only saying two things:
  1. the discussion about the so called "intersectionality" or "identitarian" issues has reached a limit
  2. those things still matter somehow, so does social class BUT we live in a complex post-modern world where nothing actually seems to be stable

I believe in social class, but I don't think it is the most important thing there is.

>>2785829
Exploitation is bad and I don't like it.
What should I do to stop it?
Socialism is the way, but I am not sure if I like socialism that much. Explain to me how my individual freedoms will expand if we reach a socialist society.

>>2785833
>we live in a complex post-modern world
it's actually primitive and simplistic

>>2785840
Your freedom will be completly meaningless if you die because the bourgeois started a nuclear war, caused climate change, have an robot army to kill you, whatever else they'll do to make sure no one can ever threaten their power.
Thats what every bourgeois, to the last one of them, thinks when looking at you, they know you're their ennemy, so you should know the same.

>>2785847
I agree with you but if we cannot smoke weed in the revolution, what good is this revolution for, I wonder.

Replace? Class doesn’t replace them, it lays the foundation of what brings these societal dynamics about. Human race and racism haven’t always existed and they can’t explain their existence on their own terms, because they were brought about by colonialism and its need to jusyify the brutal exploitation of people outside of Europe. Views on gender and sexuality have been drastically different based on time and place and their shifts are caused by their utility for social organization. Their drive is material interest in class society. Without a material base it’s just baseless symbolic reasoning that doesn’t get past creative writing and psychonalytic pseudointellectualism or, even worse, biological determinism.

>>2785711
>discussions about race, gender, sexuality…have reached a limit
Interesting. How do you figure? Literally got stereotyped by a stranger in the bar last night.

>>2785782
>the goal is to be original in order to impress anons who post squidward

>>2785820
>The idea of worshipping the workkng class never resonates with me
It's not about "worshiping" the working class, it's about understanding where your own interests lie was a worker, and that workers must be the social basis for the overthrow of class society.

>>2785820
Just go listen to 'Common People' by Pulp, what more do you need

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>>2785950
Not that anon, but I think I get what he’s saying. It does feel like the New-left/Critical Theorist ideas about race are irreverent, because they largely depended on stable capitalist liberal societies to function and those systems seem to be changing or breaking down.

My glowie senses are tingling. I'm noticing an increase is typical bullshit arguments and discussions that retread age old conflicts that were resolved long ago.

>>2785953
Literally the point of postmodernism, reject any basis from before and try to be critical of everything that has ever been thought before so you can the most original political ideas (Neoliberalism with different names)

>class is not a concept good enough to replace it
show your working uygha class analysis is literally all there is we have like two centuries of thought and praxis proving this otherwise im just gonna assume youre another well poisoning neoliberal many such cases

Yes you have more in common with Elon Musk than someone flipping burgers at McDonald's because both of you think transhumanist bathrooms cringe


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