In your opinion, in a situation of capitalist crisis, can a short-lived alliance exist between Marxist socialism and national (right-wing) socialism, in a Vanguard Party capable of making a radical change in the country's course, or is this a direct path to fascism and the destruction of the achievements of Leninism?
second option
>>2786245Why are you so certain of the fatalism of this path? Doesn't the Vanguard Party have enough strength to digest traditional elements and figure out its agenda?
>>2786246"It's agenda" is to brutally kill you, and the bourgeoisie will side with them if they're losing to this "coalition"
>>2786248And my agenda is to brutalize them with my cock, so we are even. Anon out.
>Alliance between people who want to destroy capitalism and people who want to save it
Do the fucking math before the Freikorps come knocking down your door
>Red-Brown alliance
You mean like the Molotov-Ribbentrob Pact?
>>2786251Today's right-wingers are increasingly rejecting the capitalist model, and their influence on the masses is growing. Either we use them for our own purposes, or we simply wait for them to become stronger and come after us.
>>2786252No, I mean a vanguard party capable of uniting anti-government elements of anti-capitalism. It is clear that those on the right who want to preserve capitalism will avoid such an organization.
Ok let's make a deal. Leftists agree to
1) Stop all immigration. Deport all illegals and remigrate criminal foreign born citizens.
2) Enforce traditional culture and values. Ban foreign culture and religion.
We agree to :
1) Higher taxes on wealthy. Expropriate billionaires. Nationalize finance.
2) Form alliance with China/Russia/Iran and stop imperialism/ all foreign wars.
Deal?
>>2786257I assume you are American
What exactly is your "traditional" culture?
Bro's nation is only 250 years old 😬💀
>>2786257>>Stop all immigration. Deport all illegals and remigrate criminal foreign born citizens.Under Marxist socialism, destructive immigration is virtually impossible because immigrants have no privileges and cannot move to a country and start living off the state's money. But the immigration of scientists and professionals, on the contrary, is facilitated
>>2) Enforce traditional culture and values. Ban foreign culture and religion.
This is very controversial; a strong culture has nothing to fear from others, nor to support them beyond the traditional ones, and given the frequent cultural revolutions that take place under socialism, a completely new culture is born from the previous traditional one, as was the case, for example, in Soviet Russia and China.
>>2786260Its good question i think
>>2786263>>2786260Deal or no deal? I don't have the time or energy to read your PhD thesis. Just give me a one word answer.
>>2786266The demands are not entirely relevant; in fact, these questions are decided by Marxism.
>>2786266Well it depends. National Socialism generally emphasises the volk, but who is the american folk and what is their culture? Blues and country as a genre is seen as folk, so is returning to tradition highlighting this aspect? Or is "tradition" the post-war suburbia of white-picket fences, which only lasted around 20 years before rock and roll took over in the 60s.
>>2786268See this is the kind of bad-faith over intellectualization you people engage in when you don't actually have any interest in productive discussion. You KNOW who the real American people are and what true American culture is. I no longer have any interest in this discussion, I'm leaving.
>>2786271WASPs brought blacks into your sacred land for them to do low-skill jobs. I'm sorry but the legacy of undesirable immigration rests on the backs of the founders.
>image
gay but accurate
the /pol/ack would groom a child on discord
>>2786276okie-doki, well, this question was worth raising. In any case, we've seen in practice how the right refuses to think beyond slogans.
Most fascist grunts just want a sense of discipline and belonging tbh.
>>2786279This not what i mean, anon, this is a avangard party what i think about, this is a left-revisionists with the proto-nazis
No
>>2786244Already exists. Google ethnocacerism
>>27862573) nationalize everything, abolish taxes and kill all counterrevolutionaries
the closest thing to this that was historically justifiable was the alliance between the Kuomintang and the Communists to expel the Japanese, but that has no parallel in the imperial core
Idk it's kinda sweet. It's okay if J-boys go with J-girls.
>>2786384where did you get that picture of me
>>2786244Isn't that just Strasserism?
>right wing socialists
Kill yourself
Sage in all fields
>>2786257>1) Stop all immigration. Deport all illegals and remigrate criminal foreign born citizens.Wrong. The communist position is to fight for the labor rights of all immigrant workers, both legal and illegal, and to prevent any means by which capitalists coerce immigrant workers to intensify capital accumulation. Compensation will be made for each hour not paid to immigrant workers compared to native workers. Compensation will be paid to workers' unions and workers' organizations, and various fines will also be levied without the capitalist being able to appeal for any violations. Unionization of all workers will be mandatory without any limit to the state and capitalists preventing radical unions. Wage equalization with unionized workers will prevent betrayals, along with the radical democratization of unions. The legal right to public defense will be advanced, and the legal and judicial process will be democratized, in addition to the guaranteed public legal right to legal processes for all workers to fight in solidarity together. The Marxist position does not tolerate any repressive power of the bourgeois state in order to prepare for the overthrow of the bourgeois state. This means abolishing the standing armed army, the police, and all means of repression of the bourgeois state; arming the workers organized into popular self-defense militias for the supremacy of the proletariat; disarming and confiscating the enemy classes of all apologists of the bourgeois state who deny the supremacy of the proletariat; and all immigrant workers entering unionized popular councils, receiving all civil rights to vote and defense against capitalists.
>2) Enforce traditional culture and values. Ban foreign culture and religion.Incorrect. The destruction of all cultures formed within and before the bourgeois state must be carried out to prevent the co-optation of the masses by the bourgeoisie and its reactionary, liberal, reformist, conservative, or libertarian apologists who maintain the bourgeois state. Socialist culture will be created within a socialist economy in fraternity with the workers of the entire world, and the proletariat will be the new ruling class to socialize the economy.
>1) Higher taxes on wealthy. Expropriate billionaires. Nationalize finance. The communist position is a heavy, direct, progressive tax to bankrupt all capitalists and cut all indirect consumption taxes for workers without exception. All capitalists will be expropriated using the public state bank, using cheap credit to bankrupt all private companies that will be competing against state-owned companies producing cheap goods. This will facilitate worker occupations, facilitate nationalizations without compensation for companies to become cooperatives or publicly owned. All private banking will be suppressed and extinguished, there will be no financial speculation, and workers' wages will be balanced with the price of food and consumption necessities, which will be done in a popular council of workers' statistics without economists, technocrats, apolitical figures, or representatives of finance capital. All this will prevent the cost of inflation from being passed on to the workers. It cannot be forgotten that all insurance and pensions must be public, without speculation, with the costs being passed on to the capitalists by all the workers whose labor they exploited, with public guarantees to attack finance capital, and this will be administered by the workers, not speculators in the market.
>2) Form alliance with China/Russia/Iran and stop imperialism/ all foreign wars.Wrong. Multipolarity and anti-imperialism are correct positions, but they have nothing to do with alliances. All those who are obstacles to the political supremacy of the proletariat will be crushed. All funding that maintains the domination of financial capital abroad will be cut off, including in all countries in America, Europe, Africa, and Asia. There will be no support for any multinational corporations so that they can be nationalized by these peripheral countries. All multinational corporations will be destroyed and expropriated. All contracts maintaining financial capital and free trade will be abandoned. There will be no profit from arms sales, loans, or financial aid abroad to maintain financial capital abroad, without exception.
Let's begin to understand my position with the text addressing the issue of Irish and English workers at the time:
<I shall give you here only quite briefly the salient points.
<Ireland is the bulwark of the English landed aristocracy. The exploitation of that country is not only one of the main sources of their material wealth; it is their greatest moral strength. They, in fact, represent the domination over Ireland. Ireland is therefore the cardinal means by which the English aristocracy maintain their domination in England itself.
<If, on the other hand, the English army and police were to be withdrawn from Ireland tomorrow, you would at once have an agrarian revolution in Ireland. But the downfall of the English aristocracy in Ireland implies and has as a necessary consequence its downfall in England. And this would provide the preliminary condition for the proletarian revolution in England. The destruction of the English landed aristocracy in Ireland is an infinitely easier operation than in England herself, because in Ireland the land question has been up to now the exclusive form of the social question because it is a question of existence, of life and death, for the immense majority of the Irish people, and because it is at the same time inseparable from the national question. Quite apart from the fact that the Irish character is more passionate and revolutionary than that of the English.
<As for the English bourgeoisie, it has in the first place a common interest with the English aristocracy in turning Ireland into mere pasture land which provides the English market with meat and wool at the cheapest possible prices. It is likewise interested in reducing the Irish population by eviction and forcible emigration, to such a small number that English capital (capital invested in land leased for farming) can function there with “security”. It has the same interest in clearing the estates of Ireland as it had in the clearing of the agricultural districts of England and Scotland. The £6,000-10,000 absentee-landlord and other Irish revenues which at present flow annually to London have also to be taken into account.
<But the English bourgeoisie has also much more important interests in the present economy of Ireland. Owing to the constantly increasing concentration of leaseholds, Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labour market, and thus forces down wages and lowers the material and moral position of the English working class.
<And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.
<This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.
<But the evil does not stop here. It continues across the ocean. The antagonism between Englishmen and Irishmen is the hidden basis of the conflict between the United States and England. It makes any honest and serious co-operation between the working classes of the two countries impossible. It enables the governments of both countries, whenever they think fit, to break the edge off the social conflict by their mutual bullying, and, in case of need, by war between the two countries.
<England, the metropolis of capital, the power which has up to now ruled the world market, is at present the most important country for the workers’ revolution, and moreover the only country in which the material conditions for this revolution have reached a certain degree of maturity. It is consequently the most important object of the International Working Men’s Association to hasten the social revolution in England. The sole means of hastening it is to make Ireland independent. Hence it is the task of the International everywhere to put the conflict between England and Ireland in the foreground, and everywhere to side openly with Ireland. It is the special task of the Central Council in London to make the English workers realise that for them the national emancipation of Ireland is not a question of abstract justice or humanitarian sentiment but the first condition of their own social emancipation.
<These are roughly the main points of the circular letter, which thus at the same time give the raisons d’étre of the resolutions passed by the Central Council on the Irish amnesty.[…]
<We hit another bird with the same stone, we have forced the Irish leaders, journalists, etc., in Dublin to get into contact with us, which the General Council had been unable to achieve previously!
<You have wide field in America for work along the same lines. A coalition of the German workers with the Irish workers (and of course also with the English and American workers who are prepared to accede to it) is the greatest achievement you could bring about now. This must be done in the name of the International. The social significance of the Irish question must be made clear.
<Letters of Karl Marx 1870, Marx to Sigfrid Meyer and August Vogt In New Yorkhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htmRemembering that Marx and Engels favored uniting all workers of all nationalities, including immigrants, to fight together for the communist revolution and their shared class interests, separatism was not acceptable to them without some material conditions. Irish separatism was an acceptable alternative due to English chauvinism, which hindered the organization of the English and Irish proletariat. This prejudice stemmed from the intensified subjugation of Irish workers. If the alternative to a joint revolution in Britain is the continuation of this subjugation of the Irish, then Irish independence would be an option for a future socialist federation on more equal terms between the Irish and English.
I'll post the text where you can read "The Question of the General Council's Resolution on the Irish Amnesty" if you're interested in reading it, which explains this point:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/03/28.htmNow, to answer the question about immigration, I will first cite the general position that differentiates communists from other working-class parties in the manifesto:
<The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only: 1. In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality. 2. In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole.
<The Communists, therefore, are on the one hand, practically, the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class parties of every country, that section which pushes forward all others; on the other hand, theoretically, they have over the great mass of the proletariat the advantage of clearly understanding the line of march, the conditions, and the ultimate general results of the proletarian movement.
<The immediate aim of the Communists is the same as that of all other proletarian parties: formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political power by the proletariat.
<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, Manifesto of the Communist Party (1848), Chapter II. Proletarians and Communistshttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htmLet's look at practical examples of a political program in an election in a bourgeois democracy, with texts by Marx and Engels that fit what is written:
<(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.
<(v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
<Frederick Engels, 1847, The Principles of Communismhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
<1. One rest day each week or legal ban on employers imposing work more than six days out of seven. - Legal reduction of the working day to eight hours for adults. - A ban on children under fourteen years working in private workshops; and, between fourteen and sixteen years, reduction of the working day from eight to six hours;<2. Protective supervision of apprentices by the workers' organizations;<3. Legal minimum wage, determined each year according to the local price of food, by a workers' statistical commission;<4. Legal prohibition of bosses employing foreign workers at a wage less than that of French workers;[…]
<7. Responsibility of society for the old and the disabled;<8. Prohibition of all interference by employers in the administration of workers' friendly societies, provident societies, etc., which are returned to the exclusive control of the workers;<9. Responsibility of the bosses in the matter of accidents, guaranteed by a security paid by the employer into the workers' funds, and in proportion to the number of workers employed and the danger that the industry presents;<10. Intervention by the workers in the special regulations of the various workshops; an end to the right usurped by the bosses to impose any penalty on their workers in the form of fines or withholding of wages (decree by the Commune of 27 April 1871);
<Karl Marx and Jules Guesde, 1880, The Programme of the Parti Ouvrierhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/05/parti-ouvrier.htmNow let's look at Lenin's quotes for those who pretend the Bolsheviks didn't have workers of various nationalities or refused to organize immigrant workers:
<We can demand popular election of officers, abolition of all military law, equal rights for foreign and native-born workers (a point particularly important for those imperialist states which, like Switzerland, are more and more blatantly exploiting larger numbers of foreign workers, while denying them all rights). Further, we can demand the right of every hundred, say, inhabitants of a given country to form voluntary military-training associations, with free election of instructors paid by the state, etc.
<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, 1916, The Military Programme of the Proletarian Revolution: IIIhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/miliprog/iii.htm
<6) Freedom of movement and occupation.
<7) Abolition of the social estates; equal rights for all citizens irrespective of sex, creed, race, or nationality.[…]
<12) Replacement of the standing army by the universally armed people.
<12) The police and standing army to be replaced by the universally armed people; workers and other employees to receive regular wages from the capitalists for the time devoted to public service in the people’s militia.[…]
<In the endeavour to achieve its immediate aims, the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party supports every oppositional and revolutionary movement directed against the existing social and political set-up in Russia, but at the same time emphatically rejects all reformist projects involving any expansion or consolidation of the guardianship of the police and bureaucracy over the labouring masses.
<V. I. Lenin, 1917, Materials Relating to the Revision of the Party Programmehttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/reviprog/ch04.htm NO
>>2786271uygha talking about bad faith, not once did a right-left wing "freindship" ever help the left, not ever.
>>2786244You'll live to see it but you won't like it.
I've said many of times the future of capitalism is reddit economy based in guessing games and crypto when your entire consumption rate is dependent on random factors of what crypto you get paid in vs what crypto stores are accepting vs the price fluctuations thereof. It'll literally just be easier and make more sense to steal. Neither you nor the right toids will, because you crave stability and orderliness. You want a society, the elites don't. They don't care.
I don't care either… I couldn't give a shit if we all died tomorrow. I hate you, I hate this place, I hate everyone and everything.
I'm not trying to be edgy I'm not trying to convert you to my side, I'm just stating a fact. The fact is you're a bitch.
The fact is, you'll come crying to me to develop an alternative system which I have the lottery economy which I also talked about where you will be paid in thoughts and prayers securing the worth of a currency and not having to guess or play favorites. No investments, no speculation, either way you're gambling your time and sanity.
You and the Chuds will work either one single day and become a billionaire or the rest of your life and get nothing. Your alternative to that is pretending that it doesn't fill you with rage where you can't even buy your monster energy drinks in peace because the store only takes pepe coin or Tesla coin and you don't feel like converting your TikTok coins to see if it'll be enough to cover it. Your choices will be bureaucratic nonsense or magical thinking.
And if you are waiting for a red-brown alliance, you've already made your choice. Welcome to the team comrade. No refunds.
>>2786244fascists just rugpull socialists all the time, there has never been a time in history where this didn't happen, it's literally all they do.
>>2786490I drew it
>>2786497I drew that too
This topic gets brought up every month, but to reiterate again:
>There is no organized national far-right movement beyond what’s DIRECTLY CONTROLLED by Peter Thiel and other far right billionaires
>The “independent” far right orgs are mostly irrelevant
>An unholy alliance between Socialists and Fascists would more likely end with the collapse of the Soviets as it requires tolerating far right intimidation of groups far more amenable to Socialism than them
In short: no.
>>2787019rare good cpusanon post
>>2786257Plan sounds good but it also feels like a scam. AES countries were already conservative/nationalist so why don't you just become a stalinist? What do you get from being autistic around race/ethnicity when the historical communist position already negated mass migration and supported the promotion of each country's culture.
>>2786682>What bordiga does to an mf.<Destroy all cultures.Every communist country at some point that did that regretted the infantilist bullshit.
<Quotemining Marx et al.ngmi leftychud. Historical communist examples negated what Marx wrote in the 19th century. Mao was right to state social practice was the deciding factor of an ideology's worth. The 20th century communist countries were dissolved on command from party leadership. There were no endemic weaknesses that caused inevitable destruction. North Korea is a prime example of what happens when you don't listen to Gorbachev. On the other hand, every leftcom country/attempt failed within months and had to switch to something else.
>>2787019>tolerating far right intimidation of groups far more amenable to Socialism than themBiggest block against right wing unions is that they ontologically hate cooperation and friendship. It's hard to understand the right wing mentality but as someone from that milieu, imagine viewing people as extended family. If they don't exhibit the traits that make sense to you, you view them as a threat. Gets messy with more people involved in groupthink. There is also a lot of insecurity stemming from alienation but they refuse to address this.
>>2786260Germany is even younger
>>2786257>heheh i will stop immigration, but not outsourcing kiss your jobs bye bye either way
>and I will only "tax" the rich, expropriate the billionaires (but not the millionaires) and nationalize financepetty bourgeois delusions. nazoids think billionaires and usury is the only problem with capitalism, but have no qualms about petty bourgeois exploitation or profit continuing to exist. profit, rent, and usury are all exploitative, and predicated on surplus value from wage labor. if you abolish only one of them and not the other two, capitalism will go on just fine, and eventually succeed in rolling back those reforms
>>2787024Despite the allegations you’ll find one consistent point I try to make is that embracing hateful social positions to win is idiotic.
>>2787034It’s pretty much been proven time and again by sociologists that if you emphasize similarities you breed unity and if you emphasize differences you breed suspicion.
See I don’t think race is all that necessary to unite people. You can point to shared ideals or aspirations. Problem is the discourse is heavily promoting hatred between different groups within the working class
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>>2787019>In short: no.you tell people to vote for the far-right (zionists) as long as they export genocide to gaza instead of applying that type of political management where you live and you pretend you are fighting fascism lol
>>2787032>Every communist country at some point that did that regretted the infantilist bullshit.Wrong, nationalism was not tolerated in socialist countries. The liberation of women with education and the means to become workers without patriarchal control is also an example. Nations and peoples will receive a socialist culture with a written language so that workers are not co-opted by reactionaries and liberals. You are the one fantasizing. Soviet patriotism or socialist patriotism means defending a socialist economy in solidarity with the workers of the world instead of the nationalist fantasy of the bourgeois state that you cling to. Even the clergy and reactionary tendencies in cultures were modified in socialist revolutions with punishments for counter-revolutionaries for going against the supremacy of the proletariat and being a threat to trying to restore class society by conspiring abroad with imperialists.
>leftychudMy position is typical of a Marxist-Leninist if you have read Marxist texts instead of clinging to sentimental superstitions that deny the supremacy of the proletariat, solidarity with the workers of nations around the world, to consolidate and maintain the dictatorship of the proletariat against liberals, reactionaries, reformists and other class conciliators who do not desire revolutionary terror to re-educate antisocial tendencies that need to be corrected to maintain the political supremacy of the proletariat. This will attack any bourgeois culture and pre-capitalist culture seeking to restore class society so that workers can form their own socialist culture and not be co-opted by charlatans.
>There were no endemic weaknesses that caused inevitable destructionKhrushchev created this degradation of the dictatorship of the proletariat during his government. Breshnev corrected some problems from the previous government, but became complacent, failing to resolve other issues that degraded the dictatorship of the proletariat due to a lack of vision of what should be done. He became complacent in not spreading revolutionary terror and not conveying revolutionary fervor about the path to follow, teaching the principles of scientific socialism. All of this is a weakness, in my opinion, lowering one's own guard to the infiltration of agents of imperialism with a false sense of security. Being paranoid is correct against the imperialist threat; therefore, one should not be afraid of being hated for being authoritarian in order to crush everything that denies the supremacy of the proletariat in order to socialize the economy, especially the false discourses of decentralization by the petty bourgeoisie and intellectuals.
>>2787126god he's so mentally ill. like i get his point and all but god damn
>>2787126not everyone that thinks you are a reactionary in red clothes is felix
you tell people to vote for genocidal zionists to "fight fascism" (drumpf), thats just a fact, your rejection of collaboration with the far right doesnt extend to them as long as they do their business somewhere else
>>2787032>>What bordiga does to a mf.you are always hating on Bordiga and I get it, but when he said anti-fascism is the worst product of fascism you have to admit he had a point, it allows reactionaries to hide like this
>>2786257Everything the right wants hinges on preserving capitalism in some form as an enforcement mechanism. “Traditional values” considered apart from socio-economic factors is feelsy-weelsy crap.
So, no.
>>2787135>”I-i’m not Felix!”Sure bud.
You praised the IDF for their genocidal ambitions against the Lebanese Christian community then whine “ACKTUALLY you’re the fascist!”
OF COURSE SUCH AN ALLIANCE EXIST BETWEEN AMERIKKKANS YOUR DAILY FARE IS THE BLOOD OF THE THIRD WORLD REGARDLESS OF BEING LEFTIST OR "RIGHTIST" YOU ARE SCUM WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TENS OF MILLIONS OF THIRD WORLD DEATHS
>>2787152Yeah I hope third world fascism rises and then kills all amerikkkans in their countries.
>>2787142if you want to pretend everyone that points out you are full of shit is felix thats your problem
the fact is that you and your party openly colaborate with genocidal zionazis that in the name of "fighting fascism", which is a joke to everyone thats not mentally ill like you
>>2787152>the unironic amerikkkan self described "gay nazi" who dickrides bessent as a "power gay" and praises the "moderate" CIA funded headchopper who overthrew assad is complaining that the IRGC is full of "groypers"ironic … amerikkkans only have themselves to blame for the popularity of "fascism" in the third world because the american proletariat were never worth allying with
>>2787142he's not felix. i'm not felix. you are just a reactionary dickrider of the us demokkkratikkk party. you objectively miss the obama pre-trump pre-covid pre-ukraine days where you could go to wal mart at midnight, listen to your gay ass indie hipster music and succdem podcasts, and pretend everything was gonna be OK. you miss the OWS days where you and your ilk pretended to be the most oppressed workers in the world while congolese children breath in dust to mine your computer parts for you.
Reminder:Americans are 100% zionist, especially the ones who lie and say they aren't. The are literally sub-animal until they prove otherwise. They spend decades, couping, bombing, sanctioning, embargoing, torturing, kidnapping, raping, murdering, stealing, poisoning, everyone everywhere and expect sympathy for their """"Class"""" struggle to get a 401k off the backs of third worlders who feed them. They are parasites. Subhuman isn't demeaning enough. A dog is subhuman but I like a dog. I pet a dog. A dog is loyal. An American is sub-animal. Sub-microbe. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. I hate americans so much it's fucking Unreal. All 340 million of them are bourgeois, petty bourgeois, lumpen. If a single one is proletarian, he is a class traitor. Death to the shityanks and all the land they occupy. That includes their 51st state Israel.
I hate especially how shityanks get sensitive and offended and make everything about them and try to pretend they're one of the good ones instead of just doubling down when confronted. Commit to the bit shityank. Don't try to redeem yourself now. This isn't a fucking Christmas carol. You're not scrooge. You don't get to become the good guy in the third act. It's fucking over. Just admit what you are and suffer the consequences. And no don't hide behind your kids who you were going to indoctrinate to be bloodthirsty monsters just like you.
>>2787169>he's not felix. i'm not felix. you are just a reactionary dickrider of the us demokkkratikkk party. you objectively miss the obama pre-trump pre-covid pre-ukraine days where you could go to wal mart at midnight, listen to your gay ass indie hipster music and succdem podcasts, and pretend everything was gonna be OK. you miss the OWS days where you and your ilk pretended to be the most oppressed workers in the world while congolese children breath in dust to mine your computer parts for you.
>Reminder:>Americans are 100% zionist, especially the ones who lie and say they aren't. The are literally sub-animal until they prove otherwise. They spend decades, couping, bombing, sanctioning, embargoing, torturing, kidnapping, raping, murdering, stealing, poisoning, everyone everywhere and expect sympathy for their """"Class"""" struggle to get a 401k off the backs of third worlders who feed them. They are parasites. Subhuman isn't demeaning enough. A dog is subhuman but I like a dog. I pet a dog. A dog is loyal. An American is sub-animal. Sub-microbe. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. I hate americans so much it's fucking Unreal. All 340 million of them are bourgeois, petty bourgeois, lumpen. If a single one is proletarian, he is a class traitor. Death to the shityanks and all the land they occupy. That includes their 51st state Israel.
>I hate especially how shityanks get sensitive and offended and make everything about them and try to pretend they're one of the good ones instead of just doubling down when confronted. Commit to the bit shityank. Don't try to redeem yourself now. This isn't a fucking Christmas carol. You're not scrooge. You don't get to become the good guy in the third act. It's fucking over. Just admit what you are and suffer the consequences. And no don't hide behind your kids who you were going to indoctrinate to be bloodthirsty monsters just like you. >>2787170
mods will ban my truth nuke for burgerphobia
>>2787172Vibes aren’t real, kid.
>>2787169>who dickrides bessent as a "power gay"do you actually do this, gay nazi?
grim
>>2787174history will vindicate me and vanquish the shityank to the dustbin of history
Idk I find it kinda sweet.
>>2787176Will that save you from wasting your time starting fights online for attention?
>>2787180the hit dog hollers
>>2787185Ragebaiters really hate it when you call out what they are, lmao
Reminder this schizo uyghur is evasding a ban
>>2787188>the shityank thinks the truth about him is ragebaityes in the sense that I think the world would be a better place if my post made you so mad you got a heart attack, no in the sense that i don't tell the truth about you
merely to "bait" your "rage"
>>2787201So you’ve convinced yourself being mad online and shouting mere vibes matters?
Fantastic thread. Keep it up, /leftypol/.
i support the red-brown alliance, in the end it is a struggle against the forces pushing capitalism
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