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Unironically using the word geopolitics for example.
https://www.booksite.ru/fulltext/1/001/008/009/600.htm
Geopolitics is a bourgeois, reactionary concept that uses distorted interpretations of physical and economic geography to justify and promote the aggressive policies of imperialist states. Geopolitics's core ideas assert the decisive role of physical and geographical conditions in the life of human society and the inequality of races (see Racism). The theories of Social Darwinism (see Social Darwinism) and Malthusianism (see Malthusianism) are also used. Geopoliticians make extensive use of the concepts of "living space," "natural boundaries," and geographic location to justify militarism and wars of conquest.

The concept of geopolitics arose during the period of imperialism. The first representatives of geopolitics were the Swedish political scientist and pan-Germanist R. Kjellén, who proposed the term "geopolitics" during the First World War (1914-1918) (as a doctrine of the state - a geographical and biological organism striving for expansion), the German geographer F. Ratzel, the English geographer H. Mackinder, the American admiral A. T. Mahan. In the period between the two world wars, geopolitics was intensively cultivated in Germany. Geopolitics became the official doctrine of German fascism. The head of the German geopoliticians was General K. Haushofer, the founder and editor (in 1924-44) of the journal "Zeitschrift für Geopolitik" ("Zeitschrift für Geopolitik"), which promoted the ideas of revanchism and aggression; K. Haushofer was closely connected with the leadership of the fascist party. In the United States in the 1940s. Geopolitics' ideas were developed by N. Speakman and other geographers and sociologists.

After World War II (1939–45), geopolitics began to revive in the United States, West Germany, and other imperialist states to justify the militarization of their countries, aggressive policies, and ideas of revanchism directed against socialist countries and national liberation movements. In West Germany, the journal "Zeitschrift für Geopolitik" was republished in 1951; the "Union of Geopolitics" was revived. Contemporary geopoliticians attempt to explain the contrast between socialist and capitalist countries by geographic factors.

>using a word makes you hitler
when will leftoids stop being obssesed with language and focus on more concrete things again?

>>2788654
They always decide some words are right-wing, conveniently after the right decide to appropriate them, so I assume it's unironic psy-ops to constantly give them grounds and increasingly divide communities by adding more and more taboo words that makes it so you "have" to purge people, very organic

People keep bringing this up as if it doesn't make them fucking retards or bad faith semantic trolls. Back in the day "geopolitics" meant specific pseudoscientific "hearthland-rimland" theories. The term's usage has evolved to basically mean international political and power relations, which would be insane to claim that the Soviets didn't analyze or participate in.

Incidentally it's also similar to the advent of the myth that the USSR rejected cybernetics. Soviet researchers criticized "cybernetics" because back in the day the term meant social theories propagated by proto-techbros about how computers can solve every societal and economic problem. It didn't mean that the Soviets thought computers are bourgeois.

>>2788763
>fucking retards or bad faith semantic trolls.
imageboards will never scape being just this, just shut them down already, set us free

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>Unironically using the word geopolitics for example.
Correct. Geopolitics is at best a liberal and unscientific view of international relations and politics. On sites like this even that is too charitable a view.

Some other defining features of hitlerites masquerading as "Communists":
  • denial or minimization of the national question; denial of the definition of a nation outlined by the ComIntern, particularly Stalin; great nation chauvinism (most dangerously expressed today by American "patriotism", but not limited to that) and the racist attitudes that naturally stem from that.
  • denial or warping of the Leninist view of imperialism (related to espousing geopolitics); denial or warping of the neocolonial stage of imperialism (again, geopolitics)
  • denying or minimizing the necessary role of women's liberation in the revolutionary movement, male chauvinism; denying or minimizing the socially constructed nature of gender and sexuality
  • denying the importance of anti-revisionism in keeping the revolutionary struggle revolutionary; obscuring the meaning of revisionism (acting like nobody knows what it means)
  • resisting or denying in practice the need to raise the masses up to the level of leadership; acting as "saviors" to communities and doing nothing to actually raise their level of consciousness and organization; justifying this with the belief that charity magically produces revolutionaries
  • refusal to engage with the basic contradiction of first world trade unionism with anti-imperialism everywhere else; refusal to engage with (oftentimes out of fear of) the lowest and most oppressed masses
  • reducing organizing and revolutionary work to social media struggles; streaming


>>2788806
I think we are on the same page except on the geopolitics one because of what this anon >>2788763 said
we currently live in a liberal world order so I fail to see how using the word geopolitics as in international-bourgeois political and power relations isnt just adressing the present state of things, or at least a layer of it
do you think its impossible to use that word without outright making your entire discourse a rejection of historical materialism (which I guess its the point you are making)? can you explain why? I can understand that at least in the context of formulating the program of a party for example you need rigour of terminology but thinking someone might be a hitlerite for using the word geopolitics when casually discussing some news event or whatever seems irrational to me

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Would you regard the idea of civilisational types as a characteristic of Chauvinism? Marx for instance regarded a particularity to Asiatic civilisation as apart from the Western, which thus produces sorts of histories based on property relations, as we may read here (1881):
<The “historical fatality” of this movement is thus expressly restricted to the countries of Western Europe. […] In this Western movement it is therefore a question of the transformation of one form of private property into another form of private property. Among the Russian peasants it would be necessary, on the contrary, to transform their common property into private property.
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol08/no10/marx-zas.htm
In other places, Marx speaks upon the variability of primitive societies, which may have divisions of of labour and patriarchy, yet may still lack commodity production (1867):
<But such a state of reciprocal independence has no existence in a primitive society based on property in common, whether such a society takes the form of a patriarchal family, an ancient Indian community, or a Peruvian Inca State.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch02.htm
As yet, he maintains the universality of an original communism (1859):
<At present an absurdly biased view is widely held, namely that primitive communal property is a specifically Slavonic, or even an exclusively Russian, phenomenon. It is an early form which ean be found among Romans, Teutons and Celts, and of which a whole collection of diverse patterns (though sometimes only remnants survive) is still in existence in India. A careful study of Asiatic, particularly Indian, forms of communal property would indicate that the disintegration of different forms of primitive communal ownership gives rise to diverse forms of property. For instance, various prototypes of Roman and Germanic private property can be traced back to certain forms of Indian communal property.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-pol-economy/ch01.htm#3a
Marxists such as Max Weber stipulate the essential protestantism of capitalist development (e.g. Germanic Northerners), and we certainly see religion composite with civilisation types (e.g. Catholic vs Protestant vs Orthodox).

>>2788628
Eugenics

>>2788871
>Marxists such as Max Weber

>>2788871
>Marxists such as Max Weber
It's hard to imagine many liberals who would more emphatically reject such a label

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Correct

>>2788763
>The term's usage has evolved to basically mean international political and power relations
Yes - but do you see the issue? It avoids the question of class - that some states are proletarian, and some are bourgeois republics. Geopolitics today is bourgeois voodoo just like economy.

>>2789154
That's literally the article quoted in the OP, retard

>>2789157
It's just a shorthand for international relationships nowadays. You can make a marxist analysis of geopolitics and a bourgeois one. Marx and Lenin would have written about "geopolitics" if that was in the same parlance in their time. People who keep quoting the GSE are trying to make a spurious equivalence between discussing global happenings and duginite nonsense.

>>2789191
>Marx and Lenin would have written about "geopolitics" if that was in the same parlance in their time
But they also never wrote 'just' about geopolitics but what this really means (after class analysis), though. International relations is also just a phrase without any meaning because it mystifies imperialism. Try again, falsifier.

>>2788885
What's bad about non-racist non-ableist eugenics? We used to have eugenics threads but there hasn't been discussion about it since months

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>>2789206
First pic is the lumpenfeed goycattle sloppastare I (second pic) get when i'm talking about proletarian genetic theory (they are mendelist hitlerites)

I’m confused about some of the examples given in this thread. Some of these listed would rather be examples of errors of self-ascribed socialists but not necessarily examples of being a Hitlerite. I think anything that is immaterialist reasoning/understanding/motivation of or for socialism is indicative of being a Hitlerite. Every so called socialist who turned into a fascist or accomplice of them had some hang up in their conception of Marxism that was never rectified, such as Italian fascists.

>>2788806
> refusal to engage with the basic contradiction of first world trade unionism with anti-imperialism everywhere else; refusal to engage with (oftentimes out of fear of) the lowest and most oppressed masses
By the lowest, most oppressed classes, you mean university students, leftists who live with their parents and other lumpenproles, truly the most oppressed class

>>2788763
this
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>>2788806
Drop dead retard


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