/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

left: communism
moderate right: anarchism
far right: everything else
if you disagree you need to be shot

>>2789426
I am sorry to disappoint you but I think anarchists are more radical than communists.

are there any ideologies that would be a fusion of two?

>>2789433
Well, social-democracy and social liberalism can be labeled together as "progressivism" because they are similar, but one tends more to socialism/labourism and the other to liberalism.

>>2789432
anarchists deny the dictatorship of the proletariat, nothing is more radical than total proletarian hegemony, this makes anarchists moderate right
since they are moderates there can be a level of collaboration with them against the far right (social-democrats, liberals, fascists), hopefully they can be made to see the correct path in the process

>>2789436
i mean do they really?

>>2789436
Is the dictatorship of the proletariat really the only or the best way to free the poor and oppressed tho?
Not everyone thinks "economic oppression" is the only kind of oppression there is.
I always wonder about those classes below the regular proletariat, like the lumpen. Aren't they more oppressed?

>>2789435
>social-democracy and social liberalism can be labeled together as "progressivism"
Can they be labeled like that? Maybe 100 years ago, in a few places of the world, whats progressive about social-democracy and liberalism now? What do they progress towards? Was Gorbachev progressive? Was Yeltsin progressive? Are the ex-USSR countries doing better now after those two progressives or are they butchering each other in a reactionary war?

>>2789424
yeah you are pretty much right, I don't see any division or merger to be made aside from putting libertarianism and conservatism as the same thing, liking gay people and weed doesn't form a true distinction from conservatism.

>>2789444
Well, these ideologies are progressive about minority rights and, in the case of social-democracy, about social organizations like labour unions and other social movements.

>>2789448
To me, libertarians are just right wing liberals.
Liberalism would be the center ideology.
Even conservatives accept lgbt rights to some extent since they don't cross certain lines.

>>2789452
Are things for sexual minorities and labor unions in Russia better now after Gorbachev?

>>2789454
Are you implying Russia is not a conservative state?

>>2789457
not at all, I'm saying it became that after social-democrats disolved the USSR, which is why I asked where does social-democracy lead to and why is this direction worthy of being considered progressive, it lead all of eastern europe into something worse than what they had before, thats the opposite of progress
I think social-democracy and social liberalism can only be considered progressive on very underdeveloped and backwards places, and there are fewer and fewer places like that each passing day

>>2789466
Progressivism is supporting human rights, minority rights, freedom of speech and expression, labour rights, social movements. Social-democracy is supposed to support all this.