Can anyone explain to me what this guy has actually done except relentlessly aura farm and fail to do anything about jihadist insurgency? I only ever see "BRICS News" and other unreliable engagement farmers hype him up.
>sauce?
>context?
Naaah
>Can anyone explain to me what this guy has actually done
I believe he started some infrastructure projects.
>>2792924Sorry but the achievements have been seized by the jihadists
>>2792924He uh… outlawed being gay… and made it punishable with 5 years in prison.
Another great win for third-worldism!
>>2792962Yeah because before this they could live freely and proudly
he might actually get destroyed by jihadists
He's got a red berret which is basically the most based and subversive thing it took lots of gut and moxxy
He fights for russian imperialism therefore the fsb ziggers here love him
>>2792978I wouldn't expect "anti campists" to actually read Lenin
>>2792946>Others point to the authoritarian traits of the regime and to the repression against trade unionists, civil society activists, and journalists.Yup, he's based.
I remember taking an Uber and the driver (a Black woman) talking to me about him. I found it so strange because I had only seen him around infrequently in Black online spaces up until this point, but when she was describing him, he seemed incredibly unremarkable as a leader. Like there's plenty of military leader types in Africa that play a populist angle. And she didn't describe tangible things he's actually done to improve conditions in the area he controls. I'm literally an international relations student, so I take in a bunch of podcast content and am always looking at headlines, and I've literally never seen him mentioned anywhere. How did this guy get such a grip on Black people? Like through what channels?
>>2792992Says a lot about the state of anti-imperialists that "repression against trade unionists" is enough for an endorsement. Not even bothering to go through the motions to prove "those are CIA trade unions" or whatever. Just repression=good by default if the government is aligned with Russia. I remember when anti-imperialists and "multipolarity" people at least tried to be convincing.
>>2792996>she didn't describe tangible things he's actually done to improve conditions in the area he controls.And how the fuck would she know driving an Uber in the West? There are many who wish to portray him as ineffective, for obvious reasons. The woman you spoke to is diaspora, that means she's better off than her countrymen, which means her view will be skewed. Would you trust Gusanos to tell you about Cuba? Or Russian emigre liberals on what Russia is really like? Of course not. Liberals on reddit are saying he's holocausting gay people, btw.
>>2792996Social media mostly, as for why him in particular, he does play the left wing populist more then other dictators and claims himself of the legacy of Sankara, the other Sahel leaders plays less this game and don't call themselves leftist. Burkina is also the most prosperous of the 3 ASS nations, even if it's fairly poor, but it's hard to view Mali as a great revolutionnary state when their capital is under siege.
There is a also a strong tradition in Anglo-saxon countries of opposition to French Neocolonialism while forgetting the Anglophone one. There were a bunch of proxy war between France and Anglo-saxon countries in Africa during the 80s and 90s, Rwanda is a great exemple of this.
>>2792991I wouldn't expect a campist to actually read Bukharin
>>2792999>And how the fuck would she know driving an Uber in the West?But surely if she knows about him, she'd know about what he's done.
>The woman you spoke to is diasporaShe was Black American, just like me. That's why I'm curious, like where did all these other Black Americans get the memo about this guy.
>>2792924He literally used ai videos and footage from other african countries in his propaganda to portray how he has bettered burkina faso and retarded third-wordlists eat all that shit up lmao.
>>2792996> I've literally never seen him mentioned anywhere. How did this guy get such a grip on Black people? Like through what channels?You won't see it unless you go into online BRICS/multipolar/balck people spaces?
the gey nazi poster showed some examples where they were posting pics of things like car factories and AI slop
>>2792924>Can anyone explain to me what this guy has actually donehe said whypeepoo bad
>>2793006>She was Black American,>American>trusting Americans about foreign countriesayy. her opinions come from whatever astroturfed lib social media app she uses.
>>2793005According to Molotov, Bukharin called Lenin a traitor and worshipped the kulak peasant class. You are counter revolutionary. You are KKK.
>>2793009sounds a bit like silicon valley
>>2792924He cut ties with France, choosing some loose cooperation with Russia instead.
it shouldn't be this hard to kill some jihadists
>>2793054Jihadists are hard to get rid of because what they preach and practice is directly taken from the quran so as long as you have muslims you will always have the possibility of jihadists.
leftypol is fucking embarassing these days, half the posting is basically imperialist propaganda with almost no pushback, retards crying about the ideological enemy strawman that live rent free in their head, and 0 actual relevant info
the man nationalized a bunch of national resources, as well as the biggest local construction company, raised a bunch of money from the national bourgeoisie to start significant industrial investment, started actually building infrastructures, denounced unequal treaties, created popular militias to help against the (likely french backed) jihadists/tuaregs, and he has a pan africanist, anti imperialist discourse with frequent appeal to sankara and african socialist legacy. He isnt really a socialist himself and so ofc theres big flaws, but he definitely put his country on the path of national liberation and development and is miles ahead of what was there before so ofc any anti imperialist (which includes all actual communist) with half a brain has sympathy
>>2793107Laugh at this idiot who fell for propaganda on xitter.
Tomatoes
>>2792924You didn't need a thread for this. Hope you're banned.
I feel like a lot of you would have unironically supported park chung hee if he joined the communists during the korea war and then rose to the top as a head of a unified socialist korea. (which was kinda possible….)
>>2793120>you would have supported bad thing if it was instead good thingYes…?
>>2792924He's a piece of shit fashoid and only gets support from the left because they are confused and think he's the next Sankara
He's just ᴉuᴉlossnW with a dark complexion
>>2793120people support iran, saadam, assad, why not
Park Chad Hee ?
>>2793122>>2793130>if history had just changed a bit then people here would unironically simp for park chung hee.honestly not that suprising, if you took his otl economic and political policies and repackaged it as socialism with korean characteristics, then people here would see it in the same light as dengism…
funny
>>2793133It’s almost as though there’s a difference between good things and bad things 😱
>>2793134>good>badLiberal nonsense
>>2793068It's moreso that this is an ethnic conflict between nomadic Arabs and settled black people where the Arabs act as the proxy of imperialism. They live in low population density regions and their project of establishing statehood would deprive the massive black population of any possible revenue from natural resources, as low population density countries will always have a larger natural resource wealth per person. Neocolonialism developed in such a way that global capital doesn't just intervene in specific countries to create/preserve a comprador bourgeoisie, but it also creates entire
comprador states by establishing strong regimes or creating breakaway states in barren, but also resource rich regions, so that it will only have share the revenue with as few people as possible. The reason Islamism turned out the ideological expression of this trend is because the Gulf countries became the first countries of this type and they also started funding warlords whose relation to capital is similar to theirs.
The same thing is happening in Sudan, just without the Islamism because the previous governments were already nominally Islamist and they even integrated the Arab militia into the state. Despite the lack of ideological justification, this group, Janjaweed/RSF still launched a rebellion so that one warlord can steal all the gold revenue from the Sudanese people. Also every former French colony in the Sahel region has these money-hungry warlords, not just Burkina Faso, most likely financed and controlled by GCC.
>>2793030>didn't get the referencengmi
>>2793146>It's moreso that this is an ethnic conflict between nomadic Arabs and settled black people where the Arabs act as the proxy of imperialism. What an fucking moronic statement.
Tuaregs arent arabs. The tuaregs are an minority in mali that seek self-determination and independence from mali.
>>2793030>According to Molotov, Bukharin called Lenin a traitor and worshipped the kulak peasant class. Who cares? holy shit get organised bro
>>2793178>>2793220Same person btw.
It seems like he is just some kind of Putinite, like some type of Lukashenko but in Africa.
>>2793253putin and lukashenko are nothing alike, and neither are really similar to traoré, so once again you prove how fucking stupid you are with your retarded posts
>>2793013>the gey nazi poster showed some examples where they were posting pics of things like car factories and AI slopThere's a lot of that online yeah. There's some crazy stuff, A.I. generated R. Kelly music singing about Ibrahim Traore. Although I think it's just as much of an emergent online phenomenon as anything done by the Burkinabe government. There's a lot of people (many of them black) who find Traore appealing and it's tied up in pan-Africanism, populism, sovereigntism. Black people standing up for themselves and making their own deals and being self-reliant. Stuff like that. It reflects frustration with politics. Russia has promoted it as well as Russia has leaned more towards a third-worldist vibe in the past few years. I think Traore's appearance also does play a big role in helping him go viral because he's muscular and handsome and wears a cool uniform, and it's images like that which get attention because it stimulates people's visual cortex. But he also tapes into a general desire among people for a charismatic strongman who presents himself as a champion of the people, and will drain the swamp, and get rid of partisan bickering that's getting in the way of reversing people's deterioriating economic situation.
For a U.S. analogy of the phenomenon I was thinking of Trumpism. For black Americans specifically, Marion Barry kind of. He was mayor of D.C. in the 80s and half of the 90s, and got caught smoking a crack pipe with a hooker (in a bugged room) and then the cops burst into his hotel room and slapped the cuffs on him as Barry shouted "damn, bitch set me up!" Well, his supporters would show up outside the courthouse to support him wearing t-shirts that said BITCH SET ME UP. They didn't care because he was their guy who embodied various aims. That was during a time when there were reforms to grant Washington D.C. more local powers. Also D.C. used to be a blacker city, like the whole working class there who fixed the toilets and mopped the floors and cleaned up after the presidential inaugurations was black.
>>2793133>honestly not that suprising, if you took his otl economic and political policies and repackaged it as socialism with korean characteristics, then people here would see it in the same light as dengism…Probably some would. The way I heard it explained, there's a lot of people in Africa for whom developmentalism carries greater importance than everything else, and people will project that onto any leader who seems to fit the profile. A lot of people who admire Traore can also admire Paul Kagame and Thomas Sankara. I'm betting Jacob Zuma fans in South Africa. It's not Marxism-Leninism and its concept of a "people's democracy" as it would've been understood in the 1960s although developmentalism was also an aspect of that.
>>2792999>There are many who wish to portray him as ineffective, for obvious reasons … Liberals on reddit are saying he's holocausting gay people, btw.Yeah. Well, people portray him various ways, and I have no idea if he is effective or not. People talk about developmentalism but half the country is under the control of jihadis so how much development is really going on. Traore came to power during a wave of popular putsches in Sahel (and they were genuinely popular) but has the security situation deterioriated even more? That seems to be the case in neighboring Mali. So the whole thing could just end in bloody failure. BTW there's a Nigerien intellectual named Rahmane Idrissa who has written critically about the juntas who is pretty interesting. He's highly critical of what "was" (liberal / bourgeois) democracy in the Sahel that attracted intellectuals in the 1990s (but not so much now) after the collapse of Marxism-Leninism / people's democracy, but he does see the rise of the juntas as politically regressive within a Sahelian context. Like it is a revival of a traditional pre-colonial method of rule which sounds "progressive" on the surface to anti-colonial types but that form of a rule was military rule. It's not what the Marxist-Leninists were trying to revive in the 60s (they were in fact highly critical of traditional patterns of rule) although that could end up in some kind of personalitic form of rule.
As far as criminalizing same-sex relations or whatever he did, one thing to keep in mind is that approval of same-sex relations in Burkina Faso is extremely minimal to non-existent among the population. I don't think that's good, but I think that move is more a reflection of military strongman-ism in which freedom of expression and association has been getting squashed in general, and I think that should be the source of the critique. An interesting thing I read is that the Sahelian countries upon independence inherited French legal code which decriminalized same-sex relations back during the French Revolution. So if you looked at a map of Africa a few years ago, you'd see several ex-French colonies where it was not criminalized (as it is in much of Africa and in the ex-British and ex-German colonies), but that was basically a technicality.
In any event, I think a better Marxist influenced critique on this is really about Bonapartism, which emerges as the result of an impasse. It's not what socialists should be aiming for. To quote a passage from the 18th Brumaire. Traore is to Sankara what Napoleon III was to Napoleon Bonaparte? Italics for emphasis:
>Insofar as there is merely a local interconnection among these small-holding peasants, and the identity of their interests forms no community, no national bond, and no political organization among them, they do not constitute a class. They are therefore incapable of asserting their class interest in their own name, whether through a parliament or a convention. They cannot represent themselves, they must be represented. Their representative must at the same time appear as their master, as an authority over them, an unlimited governmental power which protects them from the other classes and sends them rain and sunshine from above. The political influence of the small-holding peasants, therefore, finds its final expression in the executive power which subordinates society to itself.
>Historical tradition gave rise to the French peasants’ belief in the miracle that a man named Napoleon would bring all glory back to them. And there turned up an individual who claims to be that man because he bears the name Napoleon, in consequence of the Code Napoleon, which decrees: “Inquiry into paternity is forbidden.” After a twenty-year vagabondage and a series of grotesque adventures the legend is consummated, and the man becomes Emperor of the French. The fixed idea of the nephew was realized because it coincided with the fixed idea of the most numerous class of the French people.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/ch07.htm>>2793493>Probably some would. I once saw haz praise park chung hee. Unfortunately i didnt save the comment
>>2792998>Says a lot about the state of anti-imperialists that "repression against trade unionists" is enough for an endorsement.Trade unions lead to trade union consciousness, not working class consciousness. The Bolsheviks dissolved all trade unions. Trade unions are how ambitious workers betray the working class, while pretending to help them.
>>2793000>Burkina is also the most prosperous of the 3 ASS nations, even if it's fairly poor, but it's hard to view Mali as a great revolutionnary state when their capital is under siege. are they? niger seems more stable while like 1/3 of burkina is lawless
>>2793974>Trade unions are how ambitious workers betray the working class, while pretending to help them.unlike the bolsheviks who tried to sacrifice the working class on the altar of revolution first and then industrialization next
trade unions are the best guarantor of workers rights especially in cases when government can't be trusted to outreach
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