The year is 2026 and the so-called "Left" continues to engage in romanticizing lumpen or downplaying their destructive MATERIAL effects on working class people. Meanwhile strongman "soft fascist" (to borrow a term from Zizek) figures like Bukele and Duterte enjoy record high popularity among the working classes of their respective countries, "Global South" working classes at that (how are the Third Worldists coping?).
Marx and Engels in the Communist Manifesto made it very clear what they thought of the lumpen. Social scum and, in the most likely instance, tools of reaction (like, say, fascist paramilitias). Do these "Leftists" think Marx and Engels were stupid?
Stop spamming these fucking threads
>>2793509This is literally the first thread I've made about this. The book in the OP was the straw that broke the camel's back. The retarded turd of a book being recommend as serious analysis.
>>2793536>homeless people and baristasInsane sophistry. Just goes to show how disconnected from reality you are. Take your medication.
>stop makingYou used "spam", implying I'm some spammer, in spite of the fact that this is my first thread in I don't know how many months.
OP what are you saying? Are lumpens a revolutionary subject, of course not, no one seriously thinks that. Is superjail a good thing? Probably not.
>>2793545Working class concerns about organized crime are not "imagined". Working class people are the primary victims of it. That's the point. And somehow this is controversial to point out.
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Bold of you to assume I'm from the West. No, there is a working class in the West, I don't know who lied to you that the West doesn't have a population of tenants that sustain on wages, the literal definition of proletariat by the standards of Marx and Engels.
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You should read it as a litmus test for whether you can see through the smoke and mirrors of a university literature professor pontificating without substance.
>>2793556>Bold of you to assume I'm from the West.lmao
NTA but only western redditors write the way you do. You have to disguise yourself better if you want to lie.
>>2793571Your chauvinism is flaring up. Not every ESL is obviously ESL. I "write like a redditor" because the academic English language is used by redditors. You might not have noticed that every Marxist text is written in this language.
>>2793549Actually petty bourgeoisie (like you) are its biggest victims since proles are propertyless
>>2793587there is no petty bourgeoisie
>>2793571>t. western redditor>>2793589Your mom's struggle session with me says otherwise
>>2793587You don't need property to be mugged, find it dangerous to travel to work or lack essential services because you live in a neighborhood besieged by organized crime. In fact, proles are precisely most near organized crime. Are you even trying?
>>2793647That's not organized crime retard
>>2793648What isn't organized crime? Mugging? There are literal mugger gangs. And mugging is often the entry point for organized crime. You're speaking like someone who is clueless about how it works.
When you guys say lumpen do you mean like gang members or the fentanyl zombies paving the streets? Because they're very different type of people beyong being a general nuisance to the normies.
Like technically prosititutes count as lumpen but it wouldnt make sense to call Bonnie Blue lumpen she's loaded and did it legally.
>>2794185Gang members obviously.
>>2793505>Duterte enjoy record high popularity among the working classes Hes being prosecuted by international criminal court for crimes against humanity. Do you like this "soft fascist" yourself? Is he your role model?
Based legal bourgeoisie (Bukele) taking out the illegal bourgeoisie (Maras).
>>2794226international criminal court is bourgeois
>>2793571>reddit derangement syndromeMany such cases with shallow contrarians!
>>2794227Interlumpen conflict btw.
There are no jobs to be had and you have to make rent.
>>2794253This but unironically
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