I don't care about
>the nation
>religion
>family
I care about
>my wage
>my leisure time
>my rest time
This is why I fight for
<higher wages
<more leisure
<more rest
Fighting for any of the first three doesn't guarantee any of these. It is not in my personal interest to fight for
>the nation
>religion
>family
in any capacity. However, if I only fought for higher wages I end up a syndicalist. If I didn't fight for wages, I become a culture warrior. If I want more leisure/rest, then the working day needs to be shorter across all sectors. This is doable, and this is also directly a political class conflict because it goes against the interest of the owning class (bourgeoisie). And it also is a struggle against sectors. So our goal is then
>no (wage) work
and in the limit of this class struggle for more leisure, we have, first, the transitional proletarian dictatorship, which systematically lowers the working day every year and develops means to distribute goods based on work-hours input in the collective labor process, and the limit of this process is the communist world-republic.
yeah sure
You can live off of welfare and not work at all, if you want.
>>2796865
Dengoid moment lol
>>2796865
capitalist means you own capital. wager workers even those with high wages do not necessarily own capital
>>2796865even pre-marxist political economy knew the difference between wages, profit, interest, and rent… why are you playing dumb like this
>>2796875what mental gymnastics led you to bring Deng into this
>>2796875you WILL be rich
>>2796856You only need wages if you want to buy commodities. If you say you don't want to be a hobo or live in the woods then you admit you want to be part of society (some might say the the nation) or have a family.
>>2796856yes, that's correct, bravo
it's easier to get more money, more rest time and more leisure time if you focus on making money yourself and build an actual escape plan.
apolitical chads who focus on the bag stay winning, chuds who care about spooks or communists who think sitting down on union meetings for 5 hours is improving their lives stay broke.
>>2797351>You only need wages if you want to buy commoditieslike food, housing, and water
it's more about removing fetters i.e. getting the retards out of the way so we can fix this shit.
>>2797016Because Deng wanted workers to have more money so they can contribute to the Chinese economy uyghur
>>2801232>Deng wanted workers to have more money so they can contribute to the Chinese economyHe wanted to prioritize the elimination of poverty:
<Then in 1966 came the “cultural revolution”, which lasted a whole decade, a real disaster for China. During that period many veteran cadres suffered persecution, including me. I was labelled the "No. 2 Capitalist Roader" after Liu Shaoqi. Liu was called "commander-in-chief of the bourgeois headquarters" and I "deputy commander-in-chief". Many strange things happened in those days. For instance, people were told that they should be content with poverty and backwardness and that it was better to be poor under socialism and communism than to be rich under capitalism. That was the sort of rubbish peddled by the Gang of Four. There is no such thing as socialism and communism with poverty. The ideal of Marxists is to realize communism. According to Marx, communist society is a society in which the principle of from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs is applied. What is the principle of to each according to his needs? How can we apply this principle without highly developed productive forces and vast material wealth? According to Marxism, communist society is a society in which there is overwhelming material abundance. Socialism is the first stage of communism; it means expanding the productive forces, and it represents a long historical period. Only if we constantly expand the productive forces can we finally achieve communism. The Gang of Four's absurd theory of socialism and communism led only to poverty and stagnation. […] Certain individuals, pretending to support the reform and the open policy, call for wholesale Westernization of China in an attempt to lead the country towards capitalism. These people don't really support our policies; they are only trying vainly to change the nature of our society. If China were totally Westernized and went capitalist, it would be absolutely impossible for us to modernize. The problem we have to solve is how to enable our one billion people to cast off poverty and become prosperous. If we adopted the capitalist system in China, probably a small number of people would be enriched, while the overwhelming majority would remain in a permanent state of poverty. If that happened, there would be a revolution in China. China's modernization can be achieved only through socialism, not capitalism. There have been people who have tried to introduce capitalism into China, and they have always failed. Deng Xiaoping, We shall draw on historical experience and guard against wrong tendencies, April 30, 1987
Most Chinese workers now think their country is headed in the right direction, which is the opposite of how most of the world feels, including the country that made pic related.
>>2796856"Fighting for wages" is bernsteinian economism, not leninism
Wat about life extension
>>2796856Read critique of the Gotha programme
No.
Just fighting for higher wage is economist. Read "what is to be done" Lenin explained how economism and trade-unionism harming the revolution.
>>2834067did you read the second part of the post?
Fighting for higher wages is a tactic, not the end goal obviously. It's a VERY useful tactic.
1) It exposes fraudulent opportunists who can no longer hide behind slogans and have to pick a side in the class war.
2) It also reveals to workers the limits of capitalism. When merely fighting for higher wages doesn't solve all problems, workers can be shown that eliminating the wage system itself is necessary.
3) Militant action gives workers experience on how to organize and how to resist state power
4) The battles increase solidarity between workers.
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