No seriously. Why did veganism and animal rights activism seemingly die out entirely from the left?
I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces. Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore, or gives a shit about animal rights.
Having become an anarchist as a teenager in the early 2000s, I fully remember how interwoven the radical left was with the animal rights and vegan movements. Gen X and xennial comrades in particular were very dogmatic about this issue, arguably more than they were most issues concerning US imperialism. But the younger generation doesn’t seem to care at all. Why?
For the record, I was never vegan and I eat an omnivore diet now, but still.
>why did inherently impotent consumer politics die out as the world economy goes to shit
idk
>>2797226If the house's foundation is collapsing what's the use of moving the furniture around?
>>2797226>I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or notthis was never the case, you were in an echo chamber. what even is a "leftist" this thread is utter bait. I have been vegan on and off and it was a pure health/lifestyle choice and I never saw it as central to communism.
>>2797226>Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymoreI'm 29 and vegan.
But I agree with your sentiment that it feels like there's less of us these days, despite the greater availability of vegan versions of everything and their reduction in cost.
>>2797255a lot of vegans are just quietly vegan as a lifestyle choice without making it a part of their politics or personality
>>2797290I imagine this is actually the case. The lifestylism critique was taken to heart, thus it's become more personal conduct rather than a political one.
Individualist lifestyle veganism is cringe
Eco-Stalinist veganism is based.
Died of malnutrition lol
>>2797360this been debunked a million times. you just gotta take supplements and eat the right kind of vegetables. there are plenty of omnivores who are also malnourished because they don't take supplements or eat a wide enough variety of foods.
There’s this gang of vegans who go around downtown here every Saturday challenging people to debates and trying to gain converts
Usually they debate drunk retards who just stumbled out of a bar and don’t know what planet they’re on, and they have all these schizo beliefs about vegan cosmology and Jesus being a vegan but the vatican covered it up and aliens and bla bla
It’s super funny so I’m like a groupie ev&doe I’m really an omnivore, but they don’t need to know that 🤫
>>2797226The rise in cost of living + the fact that veganism / animal liberation isnt at the top of the priority chain for principled marxists. End of exploitation brings about the end of animal exploitation.
Given that there are more vegans now than ever before, I dont think your experience is representative of reality at large.
most animals rights activist agitation I saw was from i*rael and c*echia
>>2797381>The rise in cost of living + the fact that veganism / animal liberation isnt at the top of the priority chain for principled marxists. End of exploitation brings about the end of animal exploitation.This isn't a very nuanced take because a great way to bring about the end of human exploitation is to stop feeding 70% of our food to animals. Further, factory farm workers are heavily exploited and liberating from their unique form of exploitation requires abolishing factory farming.
I think veganism cannot be more than a lifestyle choice until communism has been established, unless vegans start to be specially oppressed and become an oppressed minority. Otherwise veganism as a political movement has to wait until the contradictions that society will face in high-stage communism appear (transhumanism etc.). Then veganism will become extremely relevent as a part of the "life everywhere" faction who want to extend life to every possible part of the universe. Vegan nuclear war.
>>2797226It's just part of our elite institutions now, it doesn't need to be annoying to push ahead its agenda.
>>2797290I agree, alot of vegans (especially marxists) don't actually bring their veganism outside of matter of subjective values, as vegan myself I believe it's impossible to actually bring unity in action when we begin to split on matter of individual values, also without any real movement or means which can lead to realisation of communist programme veganism is irrevelant because if we don't dismantle oppressive state of being among people itself then we can't except people to care about lifes of animals when these people actually struggle with their own.
>>2797489>It's just part of our elite institutions nowThe institution heavily subsidises farming to encourage you to buy meat and dairy and literally puts laws in place preventing vegan produces from using certain terms like "milk" or "sausage"
They all died of malnutrition
It's lifestylism
>>2797226It's not the 90s anymore. Class politics are back on the menu. Fuck off lifestyles.
>>2797588Only corpse eaters die of malnutrition. Ead da fuggin' salad, bloodmouf.
>>2797521Farming is subsidized because there is a semblance of democracy left, subsidizing local industry is popular policy. Vegans products need to be labeled as what they because of laws against lying about what you're selling, shame you get fucked by consumer protection laws.
Blackrock lost millions on artificial meat, and Blackrock is just a "private" arm of the deep state
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