Is it fair to call America a fascist state at this point? I still am really split on rather it is full fascism and not because it is a very undemocratic system with rigged elections in the form of the electoral college and lobbying and stuff but there is still technically free speech, this website is still up after all.
Like all things, it depends how you define Fascism
Yes its fascist
>class collaborationist
>installing technocrats/industiralists into goverment (elon).
>using fascist propaganda
>concentration camps
>crushing trade unions
>funding paramillitary fascist death squads
>having a paramillitary to crush descent and limit free speech (ICE)
>Imperial ambition (cuba, iran, Venezuela, canada, panama, and many more to come)
>ethnic cleansing through mass deportations
>>2800711
>its da JOOS, ameriKKKans have no agency in killing millions of arabs
>>2800718
yeah i wonder if it has to do with their sudden rise as a world superpower, or the oil, or its proximity to the soviets, yeah it was definitely DA JOOOOOOZ
>>2800718
Ur not getting your foreskin back whiteboy. Your local joo ate it and you will never get it back
Now cry little goy
>>2800709We have to pin this comment
Yes
>>2800693The leading capitalist countries became fascist after WWII, and you're a reactionary if you want to return to the "golden age of democracy." So says Bordiga.
https://libcom.org/article/historical-cycle-political-rule-bourgeoisie-amadeo-bordiga >>2800714>>2800719>>2800722I want to see the post these jews are kvetching over
Yeah for sure u could literally catch a terrorism charge just for having Maoist and anarchist texts now so might as well go full demsocs, boys. I'm not even joking. Before 2026, that stuff was treading lightly on the illegal line. Now? I feel like if a cop gets a warrant and finds that literature on your shelf, you're done. Going away.
I mean, I was reading an anarchist text the other day, dude writes with his full name and says something like "For instance [KKK leaders's name] deserves to be [redacted] preferably by anarchists or leftists who can claim the action and demonstrate it to the public" And this was written in the 90s. Now… the guy was already a felon who fled the FBI in the 70s to cuba by hijacking a plane which he flew there, and cuba hid him for years, so maybe he just didn't give a shit. But it doesn't really matter. Having your picture taken by feds with Maoist or anarchist organizers is enough to get you in a database and followed for life. It's like being seen with Islamic radicals to the US state. The idea of being around those types of leftists gives me a sinking feeling of guilt lifting from my gut into my entire body and brain, hairs stand up on my neck. im afraid to even read too much of their propaganda because i dont want to believe it. i know it sounds cowardly as shit, but were just safer as human beings to try the DSA voting method first. CPUSA tried for years but failed but dsa is giving us hope.
>>2800693No, it's the evolution of fascism (Neoliberalism). Everything fascism did, neoliberalism does it better. Such as dismantling unions, squeezing profits, military aggression, supressing the left, rubber stamp elections, etc. And more important, neoliberal tyranny makes itself unnoticeable to much of society.
>>2800712>>2800725>>2800927Western leftists say this because you want to feel like rebels. The truth is that you want your states to be Fascist because you want to justify your existence. Despite their leading positions in academia, Western leftists have achieved absolutely nothing. They have only acted like clowns and that is why you love Fascism, because it explains why the Left in the West has never achieved anything.
>>2801064Like this, no you won't get arrested for talking about Maoism. There are Maoists in America and Chinam, nobody gives a shit. You and western leftists are not a threat to anyone and never will be.
>>2801088The people who get the arrested the most in the west for crimes against the state are Islamists, Anarchists, and the Far-Right.
Would you consider Anarchists among the left?
>>2801088You just dont live in the usa or live in a basement so you dont do enough research to see whos getting arrested because youre too low effort to look into things that dont make it to the mainstream talks
Why would it matter? They’re killing people no matter the ideology
>>2800693No, until I'm afraid of my neighbor snitching on me over some dumb bullshit that has me put to death its sparkling neoliberalism
>>2801093Who is getting arrested? An idiot lured into a trap by the FBI to make a barely functioning bomb?
>>2801090Modern anarchists are in principle mostly do mildly violent protests and shoplifting.
>>2801105Look this is a thing but it’s not the only thing yeah? Please tell me you don’t actually buy that right-wing social media crap about leftist agitators and rioters just walking free. they want to paint cops as weak cause trump used that to get elected thats all its not real buddy. And I dunno if you’ve been paying attention, but it’s not entrapment at all it’s called a sting operation, and yeah using snitches is standard practice in most of American policing now. That’s literally how they take down higher level street dealers too. You seem kinda uninformed on this, go do some basic research. i dont know of specific arrests but i know a thing or two about the courts in america.
>>2801113I am talking about the new left movement, and most of them got off more or less scot-free after their clown show they called a revolution. Sorry, but you pose no threat to the American empire.
>>2801124it's just a buzzword for liberal reactions
>>2801121>>you pose no threat to the empirebuddy i never said i was one of these people i was just saying the american legal system doesnt tip toe around justice based on peoples politics. you are paranoid are you from /pol/ or something
Why does the professed ideology matter more then what they actually do?
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