https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/How true is this and is there a conclusion leftists can draw from it? It would imply that most people are extremely docile and that a very small minority of people are mentally capable of serious criminal activity due to differences in nature and nurture. Several important questions:
>does this mean "evil" is not as widespread as we think and is instead concentrated in the hands of a minority of full time psychos?>can this minority used for something useful like high risk revolutionary activity due to them being more comfortable with serious transgressions>is this minority a type of übermensch that makes them psychologically stronger than the average normie? >>2808160>Results>A total of 93,642 individuals (3.9 %) had at least one violent conviction. The distribution of convictions was highly skewed; 24,342 persistent violent offenders (1.0 % of the total population) accounted for 63.2 % of all convictions. Persistence in violence was associated with male sex (OR 2.5), personality disorder (OR 2.3), violent crime conviction before age 19 (OR 2.0), drug-related offenses (OR 1.9), nonviolent criminality (OR 1.9), substance use disorder (OR 1.9), and major mental disorder (OR 1.3).>Conclusions>The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.This is one of the most nothingburger studies. People on /siberia/ already say exactly that and no one cares.
>>2808183It's usually good to base policies/beliefs on actual evidence, rather than on a personal whim, even if the conclusion is the same.
If the study didn't have that conclusion it wouldn't be a "nothingburger"
>>2808166TRVKE
>>2808206I wonder who's behind this post .jpg
Black people
>>2808278
I mean hasn't he locked up insane numbers of people relative to the population though
>>2808280>>28082781.7% of the population, or triple what it was before he came to office. Sure maybe he might have decreased murder but is this the solution?
>>2808278>>2808280The crime numbers, or at least the homicide rates, were coming down quite a bit before he took over. El Salvador had been a very violent country for much of it's history and homicide rates were consistently high. But from the mid 2010s the numbers started falling and Bukele took over right during the fall and they just happened to fall to record lows under his rule.
>>2808280>>2808283>>2808282Sorry chuds, the anarco-capitalists illegalists WILL be jailed.
>>2808280Bukele is a thug who collaborates with the gangs and the international right wing MAGA to stay in power. No numbers coming out of El Salvador are trustworthy. He has ruled under a state of exception since 2022, its essentially a fascist state like israel is
>>2808288Based big state bourgeois actor getting rid of the petty-bourg illegalists. The wheel of history remains in motion.
>>2808166t. lumpen-worshipper
>>2808278>>2808287>>2808289t. ᴉuᴉlossnW
>>2808762But I don't want to empower third world bourgs
>>2808993just more sanctimonious complaining from a bitch. psychopaths aren't real, psychology is a myth. neurotic people like you are just frightened at the mere idea of dangerous elements. take your meds, petulant little control-freak bitch.
>>2808999> psychology isn't real also you're neurotic and should take your medsLow lQ
>>2808278
Based. Fuck the lumpenproletariat
>>2808993>They're basically the jews of neurodivergence.What did he mean by this?
>>2808993Kek have you ever met a Jew?
The Jewish people I know are queerish bleeding hearts taking anxiolytics.
>>2808278
>its not murder when the state puts you in a concentration camp and you die
interesting
>>2808278
He is a reactionary socialist and really did make people's lives better by cracking down. The people love him btw. The bitcoon investments gave his country a lot of money to play with.
firstly, leftists arent allowed to acknowledge the biological basis of violent crime because that would open the pandora's box of explaining human behavior biologically
secondly, leftists can't acknowledge biology as causing crime because that means you solve crime by imprisoning criminals instead of giving 100 billion dollars to progressive NGOs (which are the primary employer of leftists)
>>2809328>people love it when you purge the undesirables your state created in the first placenice little fascist playbook
>>2808299if the bourgeoisie passed a law calling everyone lumpen, you would worship at its feet
>>2809354For a lot of people on this site, communism = authority, capitalism = liberty, even though in the real world, there's just as many, actually more, authoritarian states run by the bourgeois as there are authoritarian proletarian states.
>>2808278
it will be revealed years after he is out of office that guards were murdering prisoners, prisoners were murdering each other, and nonviolent offenders were thrown into lions dens with violent offender after being raped by guards. Murder almost certainly goes up when you throw people in jail, it's just that the type of murder that occurs gets ignored when it's inside an unaccountable prison system.
>>2809355authority and liberty are confused terms of the enlightenment. A false dichotomy. "Authorities" always have the "liberty" to do whatever they want. When you give everyone "liberty" they have the "authority" to scheme with one another to ruin each ohters' "Liberty".
Fuck the lumpenproletariat. I dont care if saying this makes me lose my leftist card or whatever. The lumpenprole prey on the weakest of the proletariat. They are not Robin Hoods like the left wing of capital pretends they are. Neither are they starving Oliver Twists stealing a loaf of bread from Walmart.
The vast majority of them are sociopaths or psychopaths. They are extremely useful to the ruling class, because their very existence makes the proletariat afraid and dependent on the police for law and order. The ruling class deliberately allows crime to fester to justify the need for police.
And in "troublesome" areas where lots of rebellious proletariat exists, the ruling class simply does allows the lumpenprole to fuck shit up and destroy any semblence of civil society.
The vast majority of VICTIMS of crime are the black proletariat. The proliferation of crime in black neighborhoods in America is the result of the ruling class deliberately allowing the lumpenproles in black neighborhoods to do whatever they want to terrorize and demoralize the black proletariat.
The left wing of capital uses "criminologists" and "SJWs" to hide this fact and pretend that either crime is not a problem or that you are racist for not wanting black people to be terrorized by the lumpen, or that simply arresting criminals doesnt work.
>>2809362and who creates the system who makes lumpenproles numb nuts
>>2809341the fascists were reactionary socialists.
>>2809331most violence is caused by the Gini-coefficient. It can be posited that this material inequality creates the (mental) conditions for violence rather skin color lol. Still though, we live in an unequal society so you have to be ready to defend yourself.
>>2809369The capitalist class of course. You didn't make any gotcha statement. The capitalist class allows predatory lumpenproles to exist to browbeat the proletariat into submission.
This doesn't exonerate the lumpenproletariat. The lumpenproles MUST be put away, which the capitalist class refuses to do in those areas where the proletariat might be troublesome.
Do you know why the poorest neighborhoods have so much crime? Because the poorest neighborhoods are where the super exploited proletariat is most susceptible to communist propaganda, unionization etc. So destroying any sense of society and civility in those areas and deliberately engendering antisocial attitudes makes it difficult for communists to make inroads in those places.
Thats why the capitalist class allows crime to fester in those areas, and then uses the left-wing of capital to prevent anyone from solving the crime problem by falsely labeling them as racist or by saying utter falsehoods like "arresting criminals doesnt reduce crime"
>>2809357Authority as in state authority (or whatever the most applicable equivalent is), liberty as in lack thereof. This is how most people use those words by default, with deviations being special cases a-la libertarian socialism. Authoritarianism/libertarianism is a spectrum; China is more authoritarian than the US, but less authoritarian than Afghanistan.
For what it's worth, when I call a state libertarian or authoritarian, that is not a value judgment unto itself. My ethical stance is that of rules-based utilitarianism. For me, liberty and authority are both tools, means to create a society that, at a structural level, is able to give as many people as much of what they want as possible for as long as possible, not ends unto themselves.
>>2809362Why is "SJWs" in quotes? You step out of a time machine from 2016 or something?
>>2809389The correct answer is that the lumpen should be rehabilitated, reeducated, and given proper jobs. Having people rotting in prison when they could be doing productive labor is a miserable waste of resources.
>>2809356>that guards were murdering prisoners, prisoners were murdering each other, and nonviolent offenders were thrown into lions dens with violent offender after being raped by guards. Based
>nonviolent offenders were thrown into lions dens with violent offender after being raped by guards.
god i wish that were me
>>2809320Boo boo don't join the Mara Salvatrucha then
>>2809331You are built for BBC
uuhhh moid genocide idfk w/e
and how many are women?
:)
>>2809505Women aren't as physically capable and males are usually told to be aggressive and take action while it's generally ok for a female to be passive.
>>2809331>muh biologyyou couldn't tell the difference between an oak and pine lol
>>2809709What is unc doing 💀💀💀
Citing from the study:
<A total of 93,642 individuals (3.9 %) had at least one violent conviction. The distribution of convictions was highly skewed; 24,342 persistent violent offenders (1.0 % of the total population) accounted for 63.2 % of all convictions. Persistence in violence was associated with male sex (OR 2.5), personality disorder (OR 2.3), violent crime conviction before age 19 (OR 2.0), drug-related offenses (OR 1.9), nonviolent criminality (OR 1.9), substance use disorder (OR 1.9), and major mental disorder (OR 1.3). […] The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/So its not that 1% is responsible for ALL crime, but that repeat violent offenders make up around 63% of the prison population, whioe at least 4% of the public have one case of violent offense. So then, some people are petty criminals (~4%), while lifetime criminals are a completely destructive force and total minority (1%). As far as I know, this correlates with the number of sociopaths (4%) and psychopaths (1%).
>>2812344According to the article, most of his crimes were misdemeanors related to his homelessness, such as alcohol intoxication. If he was a repeat violent offender, he would definitely serve more time than 16 years in total. So, he would be in the ~35% of prison populations.
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