Once the evidence of extreme abuse began surfacing in surprising numbers, the 'False Memory Syndrome Foundation' (FMSF) was set up to promote the theory that victims are suffering from a syndrome that creates false memories, often at the suggestion of psychotic parents or over-zealous psychiatrists.
The members of the FMSF have been called as expert witnesses in hundreds of trials around the United States and have been routinely quoted as experts in the media. Their mission has been exceptionally successful, as the 'false memory syndrome' has become accepted as a fact in most of the public consciousness. Unfortunately, people rarely stop to ask the question, who exactly are the members of the FMSF, and how solid is their science?
Peter J. Freyd initiated the founding of the FMSF after being accused of sexual abuse by his daughter, Jennifer. His behavior has been particularly suspect, such as accusing his daughter of being brain damaged, despite the fact that she holds a PhD in Psychology, graduated magna cum laude from Penn and is currently a tenured professor of psychology at the University of Oregon. Speaking to The Oregonian, Jennifer Freyd stated that “I’m sometimes flabbergasted that my memory is considered ‘false’ and my alcoholic father’s memory is considered rational and sane.”
Peter Freyd once stated that “With the help of Harold Lief and Martin Orne, the FMSF quickly gathered a respectable appearing advisory board, giving the new syndrome an aura of scientific acceptance.” Interestingly, Dr. Martin T. Orne has been heavily involved with MK-ULTRA experiments since the early '60s, where he undertook hypnosis studies at Harvard Medical School with a $30,000 grant from the CIA.
CIA documents have confirmed that Orne had a 'top secret' clearance in MK-ULTRA. He has published many papers relevant to the creation of a 'Manchurian candidate', including one called “Can a hypnotized subject be compelled to carry out otherwise unacceptable behavior?”, another called “The significance of unwitting cues for experimental outcomes: Toward a pragmatic approach”, and lastly “Restricted use of success cues in retrieval during post-hypnotic amnesia”.This is an interesting subject matter history given the FMSF's insistence that hypnotism is illegitimate.
Dr. Harold Lief was involved with brain electrode experiments at Tulane University, a notorious MK-ULTRA institution. Another prominent member, David Dinges, was a co-worker with Martin T. Orne and has been involved in research for Naval Intelligence, who oversaw the precursor mind control experiments to MK-ULTRA.
Founding member Ralph Underwager once proudly proclaimed to the pro-pedophilia publication Paidika:
“What I have been struck by as I have come to know more about and understand people who choose paedophilia is that they let themselves be too much defined by other people. That is usually an essentially negative definition. Paedophiles spend a lot of time and energy defending their choice. I don't think that a paedophile needs to do that. Paedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love. I am also a theologian and as a theologian, I believe it is God's will that there be closeness and intimacy, unity of the flesh, between people.
A paedophile can say: "This closeness is possible for me within the choices that I've made." Paedophiles are too defensive. They go around saying, "You people out there are saying that what I choose is bad, that it's no good. You're putting me in prison, you're doing all these terrible things to me. I have to define my love as being in some way or other illicit." What I think is that paedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness, they can say, "I believe this is in fact part of God's will."
Regarding the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, Columbia Journalism Review stated:
"Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers, Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.”
The FMSF has repeatedly cited a study presented at a Harvard conference where researchers were repeatedly able to implant the false memory of mundane tasks like grocery shopping, into their subjects using techniques such as hypnosis. It has been championed as proof that memories are easily manipulated. However, research has shown that memories of abuse function very differently than average memories.
“However, leading memory researchers such as Dr. Bessel van der Kolk of Harvard Medical School maintain that traumatic memories, which typically are engraved in the sensorimotor processes, are not subject to the same kinds of contamination that can affect normal memory. Traumatic amnesia, described in the DSM-III-R as psychogenic amnesia, is a phenomenon which has been known to mental health professionals for more than 100 years. The clinically observed characteristics of traumatic memory formation and retrieval match precisely the patterns of memory recovery exhibited by SRA [Satanic Ritual Abuse] survivors, and strongly confirm the reality of their cult abuse.”
There is also the case of Paul and Shirley Eberle, who are famous for propagating the idea of a 'satanic panic', that the widespread reporting of ritual abuse is merely a social contagion. They have published two books titled “The Politics of Child Abuse” and “The Abuse of Innocence” which promote this theory, and have been cited as experts in courts and the press. Ms. Magazine wrote a review of the interesting past of the Eberles, stating:
“What is startling about the Eberles' reputation as ground-breaking experts in the field is that their dubious credentials have not been widely challenged. Paul and Shirley Eberle edit a soft-core magazine in California called the L.A. Star that contains a mixture of nude photos, celebrity gossip, telephone sex ads, and promos for The Politics of Child Abuse.
In the 1970's, however, the Eberles were also publishing hard-core pornography. Their publication, Finger, depicted scenes of bondage, S & M, and sexual activities involving urination and defecation. A young girl portrayed with a wide smile on her face sits on top of a man whose penis is inside of her; a woman has oral sex with a young boy in a drawing entitled "Memories of My Boyhood."
The Eberles were featured nude on one cover holding two life-size blow up dolls names "Love Girl" and "Play Guy." No dates appear on the issues and the Eberles rarely attach their names, referring to themselves as "The L.A. Star Family."
The Eberles were the distributors of Finger and several other underground magazines, says Donald Smith, a sergeant with the obscenity section of the Los Angeles Police Department's vice division who followed the couple for years. LAPD was never able to prosecute for child pornography: "There were a lot of photos of people who looked like they were under age but we could never prove it." The pictures of young children in Finger are illustrations, and child pornography laws were less rigid a decade ago than they are today.
"Sexpot at Five," "My First Rape, She Was Only Thirteen," and "What Happens When uyghurs Adopt White Children" are some of the articles that appeared in Finger. One letter states: "I think it's really great that your mags have the courage to print articles & pixs [sic] on child sex… Too bad I didn't hear from more women who are into child sex… Since I'm single I'm not getting it on with my children, but I know of a few families that are. If I were married & my wife & kids approved–I'd be having sex with my daughters."
Another entry reads: "I'm a pedophile & I think its [sic] great a man is having sex with his daughter!…Since I didn't get Finger #3, I didn't get to see the stories & pics of family sex. Would like to see pics of nude girls making it with their daddy, but realize its too risky to print."
It is truly fascinating how 'compromised' the leading debunkers of ritual abuse are.
>>2808293the syndrome that was coincidentally invented after too much evidence of ritual sex abuse started to leak
why are all the founders of that organisation pedophiles involved with the government?
>>2808296So do you think the stuff alleged in the satanic panic actually happened? That there was a child sacrificing cult in every small town in the USA?
I was literally about to make a post along the lines of 'inb4 leftypol's resident pedophiles will bring up some bullshit like the satanic panic in order to pose as apologists for literal child abuse' but not even 20 minutes in these people have already posted ITT.
What is a Dew?
>>2808285Here is an extract from an article about the Freyds.
https://www.thestacksreader.com/war-of-remembrance/"After three weeks of e-mail sparring, Jennifer decided to share some of her new memories. She sat down at the computer in her study and spent a Saturday afternoon writing her parents another in a series of e-mail letters labeled CONFRONTATION. And, against the express advice of her therapist, she sent this one. Several hours later, Peter and Pam sat together in front of their home computer. They called the letter up on their Mac and, with growing astonishment, read a series of searing accusations: Jennifer said Peter had molested her in a bathtub when she was three or four and used her body to masturbate. She said he had made repeated nighttime visits to her bedroom, and when she was 14 he began having sex regularly with her. She said that just before she left for college at 16 (she had skipped her senior year of high school) he had raped her in the study of their house.
She said he liked to stick his penis into little children’s mouths and make them gag. The letter referred to other forms of molestation that Jennifer said she remembered but was unwilling to discuss because she thought her father would get “turned on” by them. It also included a cryptic reference to repressed memories that she could “not even get close to” but suspected were “more horrible.” The letter ended with a threat that Peter would never see her or her children again unless he got “healed.”"
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The stuff about when she was 3 or 4, okay, I could see how that could genuinely be something you kind of put in the back of your mind and forget. But Jennifer is claiming that she was raped repeatedly at ages 14 and 16 and somehow forgot it until she went to a therapist? Her story doesn't check out, I absolutely believe that she went to a quack who traumatised her into believing she has memories of things that never happened. Not to mention her reference to "more horrible things" which to be clearly seems to imply that she's alleging some kind of satanic panic shit.
>>2808323Obviously child abuse exists but should we believe the claim that somebody could forget for 20 years that they had been raped in their mid-late teens? I'm my opinion no, from what I've heard, that kind of stuff stays with you, and you can't forget it even if you wanted to.
>>2808337you choose to believe that therapists somehow have the magical power to create false memories when theres 0 scientific evidence for that claim.
victims take a long time to process the abuse they go through and to even realise it was abuse in the first place, and when they finally come forward they are dehumanised and called crazy
>>2808341Welp, sorry anon but as you said I was raped by you when I was a wee wiggly babe. It just took my decades to realise that. Now I’ll take ya to court and have only my testimony as evidence for le horreeble abuze that occurred God-knows how many years and, if people don’t believe me, I’ll just call everyone a pedo Epsteinite until they agree with me. You’ll also have to go along with my conspiracy theories, like how the CIA has a bunch of celebs doing strange shit not because they’re into it but because they got mind-raped and giga-raped into being mind-controlled sex slaves for shadowy elites who are really keen on every celebrity be their catamite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O%27Brien_(conspiracy_theorist) >>2808350it is incredibly hard for someone to convincingly lie about child sex abuse, and why the fuck would you even do it? theres nothing to gain, especially when youre accusing someone whos rich and powerful, and will ruin your life
youre spreading pro pedophile propaganda
>>2808341There's abundant evidence of the fact that you can instill false memories in people. I'm not a psychologist or a hypnotist but there's people out there believing that their new age therapist has helped them remember their past lives, is that real? If you really want I could go find sources proving that it's easy to give people false memories.
Obviously, it's awful that some people speak about abuse that happened to them and aren't believed. But it's also awful when someone is accused of abuse and has their life ruined over something that didn't happen. I mean do you deny that some abuse allegations are false?
>>2808357How is it hard to lie about child sex abuse? I won't deny it's probably unpleasant but I could easily come up with some story and include lots of little (bullshit) details so it would seem believable.
But Jennifer Freyd probably isn't 'lying', she has come to believe that what she's saying is true. Memory is malleable.
Also - if you ask what motivation people would have, Jennifer was a psychology professor who has now made a career out of these allegations and the surrounding supposed phenomena.
>>2808323Bro the OP itself mentions the satanic panic and says that it's real lol
>>2808367Bet he thinks the government is acting in good faith when it wants to ban encryption to fight against ‘P or some boogeyman. Typical.
The conspiratard is always selective in what they deem to be a conspiracy.
>>2808378Indeed.
>>2808330More from this article:
"Several weeks after her speech, Jennifer elaborated on what she didn’t discuss in Ann Arbor—her specific allegations. Sh sounded tentative, but it was unclear if she was unsure of her memory or just nervously careful to avoid saying anything he parents might sue over.
“I am sure my parents mistreated me,” she said, “and the form of that mistreatment included hurting my sexual self. That’s not about the repressed memories. I would say I have come to accept the limits of what I can know under the circumstances. I am not a recanter. At the same time, I have a certain amount of uncertainty, because I have no way to corroborate the memories. I don’t know anyone who has recovered memories who doesn’t express doubt about them. What I can say is I stand by the memories as carrying an essential truth, and I believe they are true.
“It’s hard to know how I’d feel if I didn’t have the whole False Memory Syndrome position constantly there … It still seems to me that if they had given me some time and space, and had not been so intent on blaming [my therapist] for my memories, it would have taken a different route … Sometimes I imagine a conversation with my father, this dream conversation where he tells me You’re right about this, but I didn’t do blah, blah, blah’ … I imagine the tremendous relief I would feel, especially if he could tell me the worst things weren’t true and it all kind of fit together. The problem is, since he was drunk, it’s just a fantasy.”"
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In other words, Jennifer doesn't even have confidence in her own supposed memories. She expected her parents to validate her saying that her father raped her because it hurt her feelings that they reacted with hostility about it (as any sane person would do)
>>2808294Hey man you know this guy epstein
>>2808330A lot of people block memories because of trauma you fool
>>2808435so true, no one can ever just reproduce false memories
People here acting like fortune teller saying "that's bullshit" put of their ass reading some article. Is there a chance somebody in the history of the world created a false memory of abuse? Yes. Will YOU uyghas realize just by reading some testimony? Not with any semblance of certainty. Is there ritual child rape happening? YES and the whole Epstein shit is more than enough proof. Are there a lot of powerful people interested in covering that up? Yes. I remember out of the top of my head this israelite lady, the daughter of this powerful far right family (her Mama's in one of their houses of deputys or whatever the name is, shes a famous bitch) and she got found dead by this association with known ties with Epstein. The lumpenoligarchy is real and they do some fucked shup, i dont know what these anons showing so much skepticism are tryna do, but they should shut their lame ass mouths.
>>2808439And they do some fucked up shit*