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Seriously, like I understand that leftism is a science, but most people have no idea what you're saying and just think you're a pretentious petty-bourgies schizo

*bourgeois

>>2808958
i talk like this instead

Yes, I know other leftists will understand you, but keep in mind that we are in an ideological battle in a free market of ideas dominated bu the bourgieosie, you can be well spoken without sounding pretentious

Hello fellow leftists, we should stop using accurate terminology. Instead of proletariat, we should say "the people" or "the masses". Or even better, "Das Volk". Also bourgeoisie is outdated. Let's call them the elites instead, or maybe job creators to not offend some of the good ones.

>>2808994
Some have proposed "Epstein class" as a replacement for the hard to pronounce boojwazee. Personally I prefer to say Jews

>>2808968
>free market of ideas dominated bu the bourgieosie
That does not and has not existed at all.

The only people who are actively trying to convert right wingers are ACP/Hazite morons, who are at the end of the day are just confused fascists. Meanwhile everyone else has concluded that 99.9999999% of American conservatives are a lost cause.

In Tsarist Russia, Christianity had a significantly stronger grasp on working class culture than it does in the modern United States. But did the Bolsheviks resort to religious tailism? Fuck no; they fought Christianity at every turn. Why? Because it is incompatible with dialectical materialism, and in a world where we have discovered dialectical materialism, it is an objectively reactionary force that encourages people to sit back an accept worsening material conditions with the promise of an eternal afterlife.

The reason we have a vanguardism (one of the many reasons) is that the popularity of a sentiment among the working class has no bearing on its actual correctness. Most members of the working class are uneducated, and have absorbed most of their ideology from the bourgeois media surrounding them. Our goal is to educate them so that they have the correct line of thought, not to indulge their bourgeois programming. Obviously you need to speak to people at their level, but this is not the same as diluting your ideology to make it look more appealing to them.

Part of the problem is that the US left has not meaningfully been a thing since like the 70s, and even then the New Left was really sloppy and vibes based a lot of the time in its theory and praxis. the so-called left in the US today seems to largely be either people with good intentions but who are still basically libs or like lumpen street gangs (a lot of anarchists fall into this camp and I think the latter is at least capable of throwing down and doing shit) or otherwise ideologues detached from reality who have an autistic special interest in like Leninism or something. either way people end up uncritically reproducing their programming with a lot of things, like in this case the liberal bourgeois myth that political change happens through rational civil debate and that ideas rather than material conditions and violence are what drives history. additionally a lot of the culture of Protestantism and esp Evangelicalism remains in the need to proselytize and save people, so you have leftoids who think we can only do a successful revolution by winning over backwards classes of people instead of like forming a vanguard and seizing power and killing everyone who disagrees with us like how history always happens.

>>2809012
>>2808994
How about, idk, the PROPERTY OWNING CLASS and the WORKING CLASS? It's not that fucking difficult to understand you people are just proving OP right.

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BOURGEOISIE? PROLETARIAT? SPEAK AMERICAN FAGGOT!

>>2809213
worker
owner

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>>2808958
Things = Noticed.

>>2808958
>leftism is a science
no

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>>2809344
wissenschaft

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>>2808994
proposition to change proletariat for israelis and bourgeoisie for marxist-leninists

>>2809344
marxism is a science

>>2808994
I'm not saying we shouldn't use ANY big words, I'm just saying that being overtly wordy will make you come off as pretentious and out of touch, it's possible to be well spoken while still being understandable and agreeable for the average working man

>>2809344

90% of what we do is read politcal theory and tell eachother to read said politcal theory. Politics is the study of how society structure itself

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>>2809012
>Some have proposed "Epstein class" as a replacement for the hard to pronounce boojwazee. Personally I prefer to say Jews

>>2809016
OP on another device here, my intention isn’t to dilute our ideology, just to speak in a way that is more appealing to the average working class first worlder, a lot has changed since the ussr and the old ways of rallying support and radicalizing the proletariat have become a bit outdated, as has the way a lot of us speak

>>2808958
I would never use marxist jargon outside of marxist circles.

>>2808958
>but most people have no idea what you're saying
Thats fine, people who use all that jargon in here usually dont either.

>>2809588
It's a "science" like sociology is a science

Fucking illiterate americans

>>2810000
It's a hard science. Sociology and Economics are just parts of Marxism btw.

>>2810239
> sociologie and economics
> hard science

you have to be trolling


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