i get disliking Russia's bourgeois government, since it was a product of the collapse of the soviet union, and the US-backed shock doctrine under Yeltsin, but i really don't understand the screeching about "ziggers" and the weird focus on Putin as an individual. the "anti-zigger" posters are basically 10x worse than the "zigger" posters in terms of their basic historical literacy surrounding the 2022 conflict. And no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes and tone down their rhetoric. It's hard to not have contempt for them. They don't even see how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR, products of Yeltsinism, pit against each other for the benefit of the imperial core capitalists.
>>2810799>pic 1do you really think you can just ignore russia going for crimea in 2014 as part of the buildup to the 2022 war lol
>>2810886the referendum tho.
The antiziggers are Ukrainian, European and American nationalists. And nationalists are almost universally retarded. That being said, the real victims here are the PROLETARIAT of both countries, and just an abstract "Russia" and "Ukraine" as you said. The perpetrators are of course the ruling classes of Russia and Ukraine, as well as that of all the other countries involved.
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>>2810991>capitalistsThey are people's job creators, you stupid ultra.
>>2810974came after troops appeared > basically a LARP even if the votes accurately reflected public opinion.
>>2810988/thread, nationalists are just babybrain retards regardless of there chosen fixation