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I keep running into a particularly insidious type of revisionism. The "Deng Won" revisionism. It is stated repeatedly by disguised fascists, capitalists, and liberals (but I repeat myself) larping as communists on our board and misusing the concept of realpolitik that capitalist roader party bureaucrats can be deified, and, failing that, rehabilitated. Let me be perfectly clear. The party bureaucrats, the capitalist roaders, and the opportunist labor aristocracy cannot be "deified" or "rehabilitated" under any circumstances. They must all be liquidated alongside their inbred pedophile worker-hating Nixonist-Kissingerist counterparts. It is not the duty of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat to waste precious and limited resources attempting to coddle and reeducate opportunists who in 99.9…% of circumstances will betray the working class, because they secretly harbor counter-revolutionary opinions, and collaborate amongst themselves to foment bourgeois counter-revolution. I don't care if they "raised billions out of poverty.". You put a bullet in their fucking head. Morality is not real. It is a theistic bourgeois construct regarding property relations. It does not matter if this is "good" or "bad." You put the bullet in the bourgeois bootlicker's brain or he will grow strong enough to kill you and everyone you love and destroy everything you fought for. Do you understand? If not, you are a liberal, a fascist, a capitalist roader, and you ought to be hung by your genitals from the nearest lamp post next to the rotting corpse of Bukharin. You are not a comrade, you are a coward, and vermin, to be exterminated alongside the ruling class, their children, their pets, and their lickspittle servants. This isn't a question of "nurture vs nature" either. This is a question of risk mitigation and victory maximization. I am not "weird" or a "freak" or "hate children" for understanding this. Take heed this quote from Mark Twain (Who, despite being a feckless bourgeois 19th century liberal, was perfectly capable of understanding the need for Revolutionary Terror):

>“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”


When the time comes, I don't care if it's your local laundromat owner. I don't care if it's a guy running a hot dog stand. He is bourgeois. You will execute the entire family, or you will be executed along side them. The pets, the maids, doesn't matter. Kill. Kill. Kill.

>comments are all chauvinists calling Chinese workers subhumans as if the US bourgeoisie doesn't expect its workers to work to death too
kek blud chose the wrong video

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>>2811103
>blud chose the wrong video
nah, this is leftcom anon. he spends every day calling anti-imperialists slurs on behalf of the burger reich.

You're right about the comments though. That shit is BLEAK

>>2811107
Is he the Mexican leftcom? I think he just wants to immigrate to the US.

>>2811113
>>2811107
I am not OP, you are mindbroken by me, Mexican leftcom

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  1. this retard actually thought Barackkk Obomber was being a maoist third worldist

  2. this retard thinks people outside the USA make less just because the governments outside the USA are mean and not because the USA does imperialism (sanctions, embargoes, coups, loan sharking, currency hegemony, etc.) to make things that way

  3. muh yellow bug people do bug speak (9 updoots from fellow redditors)

  4. actually americans are way better at class struggle than the chinese communists who had a civil war against US-backed Kuomintang and Japanese fascists puppet governments

  5. at least they're honest

>>2811116
give it a rest, you are a known ban evading troll.

>>2811119
Mentally broken

>>2811121
>no args, just grandstanding
ok so you're OP, got it

>>2811123
Utterly mind destroyed

>>2811124
pretending to be retarded isn't a personality

>>2811128
Im curious, why are you so mad at me?

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this is what burgers actually believe
unironic "1488 will save 1776 from 1984" type shit

>>2811132
you never miss an opportunity to defend the burger reich but always disguise it as being against classcuckery

>>2811107
Are leftcoms even left wing at all? They praise western imperialism constantly and push reactionary views.

>>2811107
>>2811117
>>2811137
I'm the first poster who highlighted the chauvinist comments, this doesn't discredit the fact that the Chinese bourgeoisie is a reactionary class and the American proletariat in the video are infinitely more revolutionary than it.

Seethe and cope about your race wars, no war but class war.

>>2811164
>Seethe and cope about your race wars
is literally what the americans are doing in those comments
> the American proletariat in the video are infinitely more revolutionary than it.
there are reactionary workers who lack class consciousness. being a worker doesn't make you revolutionary by default. the comments show americans seems more angry that the bosses are foreigners than they are that the bosses exist

>>2811164
>>2811167
if american workers will continue to sign up to rape gaza for israel while whining that "yellow bug people" are in their factories, then that is not class consciousness LOL

americans roll coal in their oversized 4 seat pickup trucks that they only use to drive to their service sector job, collect 401k, rape the planet with their military bases and CIA torture dungeons, ship their literal trash to africa, burn through fossil fuels and rare earth minerals in their computers so they can jack off to the worst porn of the ugliest people, then have the nerve to complain that the country that manufactures all their shit for them is "exploiting" them.

>>2811161
>Are leftcoms even left wing at all? They praise western imperialism constantly and push reactionary views.
they worship amadeo "long live the butcher hitler" bordiga

>>2811181
Sorry krakkkka the lesser imperialist ACKsis > the colonialist allieSS

>>2811138
You are delusional.

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It is sometimes objected too that in socialist society exploitation continues, just as under capitalism, because the workers by their labour contribute to the upkeep of a large "class of officials and bureaucrats". These are described as exploiters who direct the workers' labour and appropriate the surplus value just as capitalist exploiters do. While it is true that any system of management permits individual peculation unless something is done to stop it, it is nevertheless absurd to allege that payment of officials, administrators and managers represents a form of exploitation of the workers. Of course these people have to be paid, because they do necessary work. If some types of work are paid more than others, that may or may not be unjust, but it is not exploitation. Supporting an apparatus of management out of the values produced by productive labour is no more exploitation of labour than it is exploitation to reinvest a proportion of the values produced in the production of fresh means of production instead of distributing the entire product in consumer goods and services. Normally, to keep socialist production going, and to expand it, it is necessary that social labour should continually produce a surplus over and above what is currently paid out in wages, for investment in future production, for costs of management, and for provision of social services. This shows, incidentally, that the insistence in current Soviet planning methods on enterprises showing "a profit" does not represent the reintroduction of capitalism, but is an item in the efficient planning of production for welfare, which is beading straight for communism.

  • Maurice Cornforth, The Open Philosophy and the Open Society: A Reply to Dr. Karl Popper's Refutations of Marxism (1968, first edition)

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>>2811173
>americans roll coal in their oversized 4 seat pickup trucks that they only use to drive to their service sector job,
Based based based

>>2811195
Defended Gorbachev award

>>2811199
Cornforth died before Gorbachev was in power

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>>2811198
when you have each individual person driving by themselves in a 4 seat vehicle, don't be surprised when your whole country becomes a series of parking lots connected by stroads

>>2811194
>you are delusional, I would never defend the burger reich
>>2811198
>immediately calls burger reich car culture based

>>2811201
Same liberalism

>>2811207
>I was completely wrong and historically illiterate, but that won't stop me from repeating my point

>>2811203
Nice try porky, I am not getting in ze pod
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2809473.html

>>2811206
Ah I see, you are a retard that can't even afford a basic econobox.

>>2811214
>you are a retard that can't even afford
the TRVE defender of the working class, ladies and gentlemen

>>2811221
The working class works for a living and in return can buy the commodities the capitalist class sells

You are a NEETuyghur, which is why your ideology is that of the lumpenproles.

>>2811222
Trip confirm

>>2811222
I own a car I just found your digust for the people who can't a bit strange for someone who prides himself on his communism
>The working class works for a living and in return can buy the commodities the capitalist class sells
the working class often is only paid enough to stay alive. to get more than that they have to organize, or, at the very least, have been born after pass struggles were won.

>>2811227
So the working class only gets paid enough to stay alive yet you own a car, you a petty bourg then

>>2811259
WARNING

THIS USER HAS BEEN RAPED

WARNING

>>2811276
Is this true? Are you raped?

>>2811264
oh great the one user capable of making leftcom schizo seem sympathetic has showed up to use "he's a rape victim" as an argument. this site just gets worse and worse

>>2811222
>>2811259
>the workers own cars, and only neets can't afford cars
<actually if you own a car you're petty bourgeois

which is it? my only point is that making fun of people for being poor doesn't seem very communist.

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>>2811291
best post tbh

>>2811280
Ask feminists

>>2811288
>which is it?
The proletariat wants to own cars, just like every other commodity created by them, the ruling class wants to treat the proletariat like tools, which is why they want to transport their tools as cheaply as possible hence why when it's more profitable to transport workers in public transit pod they will demand the proles to sell their cars
See
>>2811214

>>2811321
There was a thread on siberia where feminists were screeching about male rape bot being real, I trolled them and now this anon is mindbroken
>>2811264

>>2811314
>The proletariat wants to own cars,
OK? how does that justify the american car culture of each person driving a big ass truck with four seats by themself, which they never even use to haul goods. It's a poor utilization of resources, space, and time.

>>2811322
the disgusting anon who shows up to insult you for being a rape victim should be ignored, because they always conveniently show up when you're losing an argument and have no real point.

>>2811330
you are both awful and have no real points to make.

>>2811314
>more profitable to transport workers in public transit pod
the oil porkies would murder them if they did that

>>2811336
trvke
>>2811338
i promise you i have high quality consensual sex with adults more often than either of you

>>2811336
Oil porkys still profit from Diesel used in bus fuel and tons of other petroleum products

>>2811330
>I am only pretending to ve mindbroken
Lol

>>2811361
if you think "raped" and "foid" are args maybe /pol/ is more your speed lil bro

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>>2811259
>the working class only gets paid enough to stay alive
Total iron law of wages victory!

>>2811383
Im not saying that at all


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