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Wage/consumption taxes are the best kind of taxes under capitalism because they incentivize the state to keep workers well paid. Property taxes just encourage the state to invest in resource extraction. Bureaucrats simply cannot embezzle money for their treats if taxes are derived from the wages of the workers and workers are not well paid. Furthermore, the state nationalizing enterprises is counterproductive because it directly transforms the state into being a capitalist instead of just being bribed by capitalists. You may not like it, but the best state under global capitalism runs purely off of wage taxes and has no public industry.

Colombia charges no taxes?

It's case by case, based on geographic determinism, exchange rates, capital mobility, tax enforceability, demographic dependency ratios, currency value volatility and so on.

With a wage tax people are incentivized to hide from the state that they are working. I like the land-value tax. Try hiding land!

>>2813820
That taxes department 1 (production of the means of production) and slows capital accumulation. You want to tax income or final consumption. In addition, taxing land just makes the government paid servants of the largest land holders which is extremely reactionary.

How about the government raise revenue by providing services and products like every other corporation?

>>2813869
I don't want the state to literally be a capitalist instead of just being bribed by them.

>>2813870
Why not? It’s more honest, less abstracted

Posting in the liberal retardation thread

>>2813866
>That taxes department 1 (production of the means of production) and slows capital accumulation.
No. See:
<A land value tax (LVT) is a levy on the value of land without regard to buildings, personal property and other improvements upon it.
First sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
>You want to tax income or final consumption.
Don't tell me what I want. And "final" is a meme by people who sit on their ass all day and don't work. Production is a spiral. People need to eat in order to be able to produce.
>In addition, taxing land just makes the government paid servants of the largest land holders
The point of the LVT is that the government OWNS the land. Everybody else is just renting the land from the government.

actually it incentivises the importation of infinity shitjeets and rapejeets

>>2813880
If you tax the land a MoP factory is on then you tax the accumulation of capital.
>>2813882
That sounds incredibly based.

>>2813886
Bleh more accurate.

>making sire the imperial core never runs out of cheap labour so that the imperial bourgeoisie can always profit sounds incredibly based!

Posting again in the liberal retardation thread

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>>2813886
>that sounds incredibly based

>>2813889
>>2813888
I'm going to tax your video games and subsidize heavy industry.

>>2813891
The production of disks and cartridges is technically heavy industry


>>2813891
I'll just pirate them you stupid chimp

>>2813886
>If you tax the land a MoP factory is on then you tax the accumulation of capital.
Guy runs factory on land he doesn't own. From that guy the landlord takes money for his "service". The landlord is doing that irrespective of whether the landlord is taxed or not.

>>2813897
Intellectual monopoly rent is cancerous rent seeking anyhow.
>>2813900
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/housing-question
A monopoly on land is no different from a monopoly on a better kind of production. Commercial landlords are still department 1 and should not be taxed.

>>2813900

Listen I wouldn't bother arguing because its very clear from >>2813901 that the guy posting doesn't understand what a land rent is or what land value taxes are.

Its not even that he didn't read volume 3 on differential rent or even ricardo; Guy hasn't even read the Communist Manifesto basic programme.

>>2813903
Fuck Marx

>>2813892
games aren't on disks and cartridges anymore.

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>>2813934
not an argument


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